DO THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A PLAN TO WIN THE WAR ON TERROR?

Does Bush have a plan to "win the war on terror"?

Is there even a war on "terror" or is it just a ploy to gain power
and overthrow the constitution?

Henry Kissinger said yesterday that any possibility of winning the
war in Iraq by the military, is gone. However, he cautioned about
withdrawing at this point and said it would not be a good idea.

He's an expert at getting into wars where there isn't a clear exit
strategy. He
should know. But he is right. Pandora's Box is wide open and there
doesn't seem
to be a way to get everything back into the box at this point.
Cutting and running isn't a viable option. But then again, neither is
staying the course.

In regards to your questions.

Is there a plan to win the war on terror?
Answer: Yes...to win.

That's the plan? No, sorry, that's the stated goal. The plan for
those of us
playing at home, is how we achieve that stated goal. The plan has not
been revealed.

It's simple - we use nuclear birth control on the bastards.

Simple, huh? Tell us how that "nuclear birth control" option only gets
the guilty terrorists and not innocent civilians, krap.

It's simple - we use nuclear birth control on the bastards.

Genocide.

"Anarcissie" <anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Have the terrorist declared war on the U.S. and it's allies?
Answer: Yes

Have they? Certainly 911 is an act of war, and those resposnible for the
planning should be caught, charged with war crimes and punished if there
is
enough evidence to do so. Al Qaeda has openly threatened the US and other
allies, but has anyone actually stated that they have "declared war" on
the US?

So yes, there is a war on terror. However, the war must not be fought
by the United States alone.

Your reasoning is confused here. Terror isn't a country our a
group, it's an emotion. Their are various methods of achieving
it, such as conventional war, but if one doesn't have the means
to carry on conventional war one can attack soft targets more or
less at random -- that's _terrorism_.

Except - of course you are completely wrong! Terrorism, in this case, is
an "ideology" or in a more accurate sense the outgrowth of a twisted
theology that has a 1400 year history of murder and mayhem. At one time
their strategy was murderous attacks from horseback. But that was 1400 years
ago. But it was then as it is now, unrestrained violence in the name of
"Allah." It is the BELIEF at the core of the society that "all infidels
must be put to death."

If you can't have a war on terror, can you have a war on
terrorism? Not really -- terrorism isn't a person, group, party
or state either, it's a method of carrying on war. We did have
something as absurd as a war to end war once upon a time,
and that wound up creating a larger and more destructive
war, just as you might expect.

In this case it IS a group. A group of Islamic fanatics.

However, neither "terror" nor "terrorism" attacked the World
Trade Center or the Pentagon on 9/11. They were attacked
by a specific group of people. It would have made sense to
find and neutralize the surviving members of this group, lest
they carry out further such attacks, and because certain
methods of neutralization would gratify a desire for vengeance.

Somewhere in there is a glimmer of understanding, but I think you need
to stand back 100 feet or so. The problem is much mroe vast then you seem to
realize. You need to recognize that the ideoalogy behind the fanatics that
attacked on 9-11 is held by ober 60% of the Islamic world. It isn't just
Barney and his friends, it is an entire civilization that believes in this
as a "HOLY WAR" and that "ALL INFIDELS MUST DIE!" If you fail to recognize
that FACT, you have no hope of survival.

In short "war on terror" is a logical absurdity. We can have
a war with combatant party, or a police action against
specific criminals. We can't have wars on emotions and
methods.

Even Bush doesn't want to come to grips with reality and recognize who
and what we are fighting. The absurdity is fighting something you don't
understand and have NO desire to try to understand. It is a mental process
IDENTICAL to the world's perception of Adolph Hitler in 1938!

"Anarcissie" <anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164225067.123547.289450@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Have the terrorist declared war on the U.S. and it's allies?
Answer: Yes

Have they? Certainly 911 is an act of war, and those resposnible for the
planning should be caught, charged with war crimes and punished if there
is
enough evidence to do so. Al Qaeda has openly threatened the US and other
allies, but has anyone actually stated that they have "declared war" on
the US?

So yes, there is a war on terror. However, the war must not be fought
by the United States alone.

Your reasoning is confused here. Terror isn't a country our a
group, it's an emotion. Their are various methods of achieving
it, such as conventional war, but if one doesn't have the means
to carry on conventional war one can attack soft targets more or
less at random -- that's _terrorism_.

Except - of course you are completely wrong! Terrorism, in this case, is
an "ideology" or in a more accurate sense the outgrowth of a twisted
theology that has a 1400 year history of murder and mayhem. At one time
their strategy was murderous attacks from horseback. But that was 1400 years
ago. But it was then as it is now, unrestrained violence in the name of
"Allah." It is the BELIEF at the core of the society that "all infidels
must be put to death."
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