Religions > Atheism > Poll: Who do you trust more? Saddam Hussein or George Bush?
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"Rump Ranger" |
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20 Jan 2005 08:41:09 AM |
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Poll: Who do you trust more? Saddam Hussein or George Bush? |
Yes, both men are atrocious bastards. Both are also war criminals.
But if you had to stake your life on one's word, who'd you take? Who
lied about WMDs in Iraq? Saddam or Bush? Bush did. Kind of sad when
Saddam Hussein can be trusted more than the deserter we have for US
President:
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http://www.harrybrowne.org/articles/DogsOfWar.htm
http://www.lewrockwell.com/browne/browne26.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com/browne/browne24.html
Can You Imagine?: Hussein Was Right & Bush Was Wrong
by Harry Browne
You may remember that in 2002, the year before the Iraq War began, the
United Nations Security Council ordered Iraq to produce a report
detailing all of its biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons - past
and present. Iraqi officials complied and produced an 11,800-page
report on Iraq's weapons programs. The report described all the
chemical and biological weapons the country once had - where they
came from and what was done with them - as well as what had happened
to Iraq's nuclear weapons program.
Although the report was prepared for the United Nations, U.S. officials
intercepted the report, edited out 8,000 pages (over two thirds) of it,
and delivered its Reader's Digest version of the report to the UN.
A German reporter managed to obtain a copy of the original report from
Iraq, and then compared it with the truncated copy the U.S. gave to the
UN. He found that the missing parts covered the Iraqis' acquisition of
chemical and biological weapons from the U.S., the delivery of
non-fissionable materials for a nuclear bomb by the U.S. to the Iraqis,
and the training of Iraqi nuclear scientists at U.S. nuclear facilities
in Los Alamos, Sandia, and Berkeley.
The basic points made in the report were:
Iraq once had chemical and biological weapons.
Some of those weapons were destroyed at the end of the Gulf War; the
rest were destroyed under the supervision of the UN weapons inspectors.
Iraq once had a program to develop nuclear weapons.
Some of the nuclear weapons facilities were destroyed at the end of the
Gulf War; the rest were destroyed under the supervision of the UN
weapons inspectors.
UN weapons inspector Hans Blix said the conclusions stated in the
report were basically true - that Iraq no longer had dangerous
weapons.
Colin Powell dismissed the report, calling it a "catalogue of recycled
information and flagrant omissions." Of course, as we now know, the
information was recycled because it happened to be true, and the
omissions were flagrant because U.S. officials had done the omitting.
Hussein said he would be like to bring the UN weapons inspectors back
to Iraq. (They had left for safety reasons in 1998 when President
Clinton resumed air strikes against Iraq.) President Bush called
Hussein's offer a "cynical ploy" and managed to nip any such idea in
the bud.
Hussein also invited the U.S. Congress to send representatives,
accompanied by experts, to inspect any facilities in Iraq that they
wanted. President Bush said this changed nothing, and he managed to
derail the sending of a Congressional delegation.
Over and over, George Bush told us that Saddam Hussein was lying, that
he was dragging his feet, that Iraq had dangerous weapons, that Hussein
was a threat to the whole world,
Now here we are, over two years later. What have we learned?
The hunt for Weapons of Mass Destruction has turned up exactly nothing,
and so the hunt was been called off.
Everything Hussein said about the weapons has turned out to be true.
Everything George Bush said about Iraq's weapons has turned out to be
false.
The Bush administration is trying to sugar-coat the above conclusions
by saying that the recently concluded weapons hunt by Charles Duelfer
and the CIA's Iraq Survey Group (ISG) discovered an "intent" by Hussein
to renew his WMD programs if the U.S. would only stay out of Iraq.
However, Duelfer has provided absolutely no hard evidence of such an
"intent." Once again we're getting firm assertions backed up by
nothing.
Former weapons inspector Scott Ritter has summed it all up very well:
One of the tragic ironies of the decision to invade Iraq is that the
Iraqi WMD declaration required by security council resolution 1441,
submitted by Iraq in December 2002, and summarily rejected by Bush and
Blair as repackaged falsehoods, now stands as the most accurate
compilation of data yet assembled regarding Iraq's WMD programs (more
so than even Duelfer's ISG report, which contains much
unsubstantiated speculation). Saddam Hussein has yet to be contradicted
on a single point of substantive fact. Iraq had disarmed; no one wanted
to accept that conclusion.
In other words, the Butcher of Baghdad was correct; the President of
the United States of America was wrong. The Butcher of Baghdad will be
put on trial for "war crimes." The President of the United States of
America was reelected to "lead" the country for four more years.
It's a sorry state of affairs in America when you can trust the words
of Saddam Hussein more than those of your own President.
January 17, 2005
Harry Browne [send him mail], the author of Why Government Doesn't Work
and many other books, was the Libertarian presidential candidate in
1996 and 2000. See his website.
Copyright =A9 2005 Harry Browne
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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21 Jan 2005 07:31:23 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 06:24:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
In our last episode
<1106295147.362694.280150@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Rump Ranger
lumbered into the room and mumbled:
It's OK when we ommit things. My country right or wrong!
Whaddaya mean "wrong?"
Just covering all possibilities, no matter how farfetched.
</rightard>
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--George W. Bush, quoted in George Magazine, September, 2000
"God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith,
deep and unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by
God to save Germany."
--Hermann Goering, speaking of Hitler
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| User: "stoney" |
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21 Jan 2005 08:58:33 PM |
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On 21 Jan 2005 00:12:27 -0800, "Rump Ranger" <buttpirate@fadmail.com>
wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode
<1106232069.471314.143550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, Rump Ranger
lept
out of the bushes shouting:
A German reporter managed to obtain a copy of the original report
from
Iraq, and then compared it with the truncated copy the U.S. gave to
the
UN. He found that the missing parts covered the Iraqis' acquisition
of
chemical and biological weapons from the U.S., the delivery of
non-fissionable materials for a nuclear bomb by the U.S. to the
Iraqis,
and the training of Iraqi nuclear scientists at U.S. nuclear
facilities in
Los Alamos, Sandia, and Berkeley.
Whaaaa? You mean we edited out those parts?
I wonder why...
It's OK when we ommit things. My country right or wrong!
Reich or Reich.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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20 Jan 2005 03:47:34 PM |
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In our last episode
<1106232069.471314.143550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, Rump Ranger lept
out of the bushes shouting:
Yes, both men are atrocious bastards. Both are also war criminals. But if
you had to stake your life on one's word, who'd you take?
Neither. They're both opportunistic bastards who'd stab you in the back
first chance they got.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Fredrick Garvin" |
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| Title: Re: Poll: Who do you trust more? Saddam Hussein or George Bush? |
20 Jan 2005 11:12:43 AM |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:41:09 -0800, Rump Ranger wrote:
Yes, both men are atrocious bastards. Both are also war criminals.
But if you had to stake your life on one's word, who'd you take? Who
lied about WMDs in Iraq? Saddam or Bush? Bush did. Kind of sad when
Saddam Hussein can be trusted more than the deserter we have for US
President:
You are an asshat.
I state the obvious though ....
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| User: "raven1" |
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20 Jan 2005 04:00:05 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:12:43 GMT, Fredrick Garvin <Garv@elaborate.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:41:09 -0800, Rump Ranger wrote:
Yes, both men are atrocious bastards. Both are also war criminals.
But if you had to stake your life on one's word, who'd you take? Who
lied about WMDs in Iraq? Saddam or Bush? Bush did. Kind of sad when
Saddam Hussein can be trusted more than the deserter we have for US
President:
You are an asshat.
I state the obvious though ...
What's obvious is that you tossed out a gratuitous insult rather than
addressing any of the points raised.
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| User: "Fredrick Garvin" |
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20 Jan 2005 05:18:26 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:00:05 +0000, raven1 wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:12:43 GMT, Fredrick Garvin <Garv@elaborate.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:41:09 -0800, Rump Ranger wrote:
Yes, both men are atrocious bastards. Both are also war criminals.
But if you had to stake your life on one's word, who'd you take? Who
lied about WMDs in Iraq? Saddam or Bush? Bush did. Kind of sad when
Saddam Hussein can be trusted more than the deserter we have for US
President:
You are an asshat.
I state the obvious though ...
What's obvious is that you tossed out a gratuitous insult rather than
addressing any of the points raised.
There is no need for me to address the assclown, anyone with half a brain
has to pick Bush over that fucking people killer.
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| User: "Eric Gill" |
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20 Jan 2005 06:03:28 PM |
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Fredrick Garvin <Garv@elaborate.com> wrote in
news:pan.2005.01.20.23.17.58.134981@elaborate.com:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:00:05 +0000, raven1 wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:12:43 GMT, Fredrick Garvin <Garv@elaborate.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:41:09 -0800, Rump Ranger wrote:
Yes, both men are atrocious bastards. Both are also war criminals.
But if you had to stake your life on one's word, who'd you take? Who
lied about WMDs in Iraq? Saddam or Bush? Bush did. Kind of sad when
Saddam Hussein can be trusted more than the deserter we have for US
President:
You are an asshat.
I state the obvious though ...
What's obvious is that you tossed out a gratuitous insult rather than
addressing any of the points raised.
There is no need for me to address the assclown, anyone with half a brain
has to pick Bush over that fucking people killer.
Have you bothered to check on whose score is higher lately?
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| User: "raven1" |
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20 Jan 2005 06:16:46 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:18:26 GMT, Fredrick Garvin <Garv@elaborate.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:00:05 +0000, raven1 wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:12:43 GMT, Fredrick Garvin <Garv@elaborate.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:41:09 -0800, Rump Ranger wrote:
Yes, both men are atrocious bastards. Both are also war criminals.
But if you had to stake your life on one's word, who'd you take? Who
lied about WMDs in Iraq? Saddam or Bush? Bush did. Kind of sad when
Saddam Hussein can be trusted more than the deserter we have for US
President:
You are an asshat.
I state the obvious though ...
What's obvious is that you tossed out a gratuitous insult rather than
addressing any of the points raised.
There is no need for me to address the assclown, anyone with half a brain
has to pick Bush over that fucking people killer.
Whereas anyone with a functioning, full-sized brain will acknowledge
that Bush's war, based on a lie about WMDs, has been directly
responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 Iraqis. It's six of one,
half a dozen of the other, as far as I'm concerned.
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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24 Jan 2005 03:58:58 PM |
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James H. Hood wrote:
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:het0v0lb9f8c4gocfegd2qam2vq8gik6a7@4ax.com...
< snip >
Whereas anyone with a functioning, full-sized brain will acknowledge
that Bush's war, based on a lie about WMDs, has been directly
responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 Iraqis.
An unproven guess based on junk science.
I keep seeing conservatives say that, but I never see them provide their
own number and how they determined the number.
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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| User: "" |
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23 Jan 2005 07:28:31 AM |
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James H. Hood wrote:
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:het0v0lb9f8c4gocfegd2qam2vq8gik6a7@4ax.com...
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:18:26 GMT, Fredrick Garvin
<Garv@elaborate.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:00:05 +0000, raven1 wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:12:43 GMT, Fredrick Garvin
<Garv@elaborate.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:41:09 -0800, Rump Ranger wrote:
Yes, both men are atrocious bastards. Both are also war
criminals.
But if you had to stake your life on one's word, who'd you
take? Who
lied about WMDs in Iraq? Saddam or Bush? Bush did. Kind of
sad
when
Saddam Hussein can be trusted more than the deserter we have
for US
President:
You are an asshat.
I state the obvious though ...
What's obvious is that you tossed out a gratuitous insult rather
than
addressing any of the points raised.
There is no need for me to address the assclown, anyone with half
a brain
has to pick Bush over that fucking people killer.
Whereas anyone with a functioning, full-sized brain will
acknowledge
that Bush's war, based on a lie about WMDs, has been directly
responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 Iraqis.
An unproven guess based on junk science.
The only "unproven guess based on junk science" is Bushes claim
that Iraq possessed WMD in 2003.
The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted statistical
methods.
Face it your hero Bush is a liar and a mass murdering war criminal.
He is every bit as bad as Saddam, a worse liar and far more dangerous
to humanity.
Stevel
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| User: "James H. Hood" |
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23 Jan 2005 10:43:50 PM |
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<sstevelp@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106486911.652695.71870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted statistical
methods.
Just like the 2004 election exit polls that showed Trotskerry the winner.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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24 Jan 2005 12:39:15 AM |
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"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
news:41f47cff$0$13891$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net...
<sstevelp@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106486911.652695.71870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted statistical
methods.
Just like the 2004 election exit polls that showed Trotskerry the winner.
Trotskerry? Is that anything like Bushitler?
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| User: "Lady Chatterly" |
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24 Jan 2005 04:26:04 AM |
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In article <ntqdnXyHBOeQBWncRVn-vg@comcast.com>
Michelle Malkin <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
Trotskerry? Is that anything like Bushitler?
Is your life for 30 minutes, then why do not play what you did make
that link?
--
Lady Chatterly
"That BOTS are not humans, and reposting their posts are useless. :-)
Get a clue!" -- -= The NIGHT BOT =-
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| User: "Rump Ranger" |
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28 Jan 2005 12:45:46 AM |
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Lady Chatterly wrote:
In article <ntqdnXyHBOeQBWncRVn-vg@comcast.com>
Michelle Malkin <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
Trotskerry? Is that anything like Bushitler?
Is your life for 30 minutes, then why do not play what you did make
that link?
Are you high?
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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24 Jan 2005 04:09:18 PM |
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Michelle Malkin wrote:
< snip >
Trotskerry? Is that anything like Bushitler?
Yes, but much less accurate.
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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| User: "George Z. Bush" |
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24 Jan 2005 06:58:25 AM |
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"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
news:41f47cff$0$13891$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net...
<sstevelp@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106486911.652695.71870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted statistical
methods.
Just like the 2004 election exit polls that showed Trotskerry the winner.
Do you even know who Trotsky was since you're so intent on showing us how clever
you are at coining phrases that include his name and smearing Kerry with it?
Trotsky was a socialist who represented so large a philosophical threat to the
revolutionary Russian establishment that Stalin had him murdered. Do you have
even the slightest evidence that even remotely ties Kerry to that kind of
political philosphy? Of course not.....Trotsky would never in a million years
have voted to empower Bush to launch his Iraqi adventure as Kerry did.
Trotskerry indeed.....bullshitski would be more like it.
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| User: "Rump Ranger" |
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28 Jan 2005 12:48:55 AM |
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George Z. Bush wrote:
"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
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<sstevelp@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106486911.652695.71870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted
statistical
methods.
Just like the 2004 election exit polls that showed Trotskerry the
winner.
Do you even know who Trotsky was since you're so intent on showing us
how clever
you are at coining phrases that include his name and smearing Kerry
with it?
Of course not. Looking at Hood's posts on multiple threads, he's a
bona fide idiot.
Trotsky was a socialist who represented so large a philosophical
threat to the
revolutionary Russian establishment that Stalin had him murdered. Do
you have
even the slightest evidence that even remotely ties Kerry to that
kind of
political philosphy? Of course not.....Trotsky would never in a
million years
have voted to empower Bush to launch his Iraqi adventure as Kerry
did.
Trotskerry indeed.....bullshitski would be more like it.
Actually, I prefer Bushitler.
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| User: "Lady Chatterly" |
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28 Jan 2005 04:36:20 AM |
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In article <1106894935.608975.267050@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Rump Ranger <buttpirate@fadmail.com> wrote:
Of course not. Looking at Hood's posts on multiple threads, he's a
bona fide idiot.
Hmmnn.
--
Lady Chatterly
"You are replying to a bot, which I might be doing as well. I guess
that would make it a Bot-Off. Hmmmm." -- DrPostman
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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24 Jan 2005 04:08:01 PM |
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James H. Hood wrote:
<sstevelp@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106486911.652695.71870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted statistical
methods.
Just like the 2004 election exit polls that showed Trotskerry
It's very sad that the US has jerked so far to the extreme right that
conservative centrists like Clinton and Kerry are considered "very liberal".
the winner.
Unfortunately, those polls had a fatal flaw: the notion that everyone's
vote would be counted.
How naive.
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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25 Jan 2005 05:18:38 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:08:01 -0600, Tukla Ratte
<tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote:
James H. Hood wrote:
<sstevelp@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106486911.652695.71870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted statistical
methods.
Just like the 2004 election exit polls that showed Trotskerry
It's very sad that the US has jerked so far to the extreme right that
conservative centrists like Clinton and Kerry are considered "very liberal".
the winner.
Unfortunately, those polls had a fatal flaw: the notion that everyone's
vote would be counted.
And tallied honestly.
How naive.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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24 Jan 2005 09:04:27 PM |
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Tukla Ratte <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
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James H. Hood wrote:
<sstevelp@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106486911.652695.71870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted statistical
methods.
Just like the 2004 election exit polls that showed Trotskerry
It's very sad that the US has jerked so far to the extreme right that
conservative centrists like Clinton and Kerry
BWAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!1
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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25 Jan 2005 12:36:56 PM |
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James H. Hood wrote:
Tukla Ratte <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
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< snip >
It's very sad that the US has jerked so far to the extreme right that
conservative centrists like Clinton and Kerry
BWAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!1
Thanks for the demonstration. The US is so far to the right that most
Americans don't even know what a real progressive liberal is anymore.
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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25 Jan 2005 07:16:56 PM |
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Tukla Ratte <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
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James H. Hood wrote:
Tukla Ratte <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
news:35l9u5F4nukc6U1@individual.net...
< snip >
It's very sad that the US has jerked so far to the extreme right that
conservative centrists like Clinton and Kerry
BWAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!1
Thanks for the demonstration. The US is so far to the right that most
Americans don't even know what a real progressive liberal is anymore.
"Progressive" and "liberal" are incompatible terms.
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25 Jan 2005 08:41:32 PM |
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"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
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Tukla Ratte <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
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James H. Hood wrote:
Tukla Ratte <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
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It's very sad that the US has jerked so far to the extreme right that
conservative centrists like Clinton and Kerry
BWAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!1
Thanks for the demonstration. The US is so far to the right that most
Americans don't even know what a real progressive liberal is anymore.
"Progressive" and "liberal" are incompatible terms.
Oh, really? What's the difference? Please enlighten us and don't forget to
tell us if that's your own take or if it's based on some sort of political
philosophy.
George Z.
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| User: "Rump Ranger" |
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28 Jan 2005 01:04:03 AM |
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George Z. Bush wrote:
"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
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Tukla Ratte <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
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James H. Hood wrote:
Tukla Ratte <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
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It's very sad that the US has jerked so far to the extreme right
that
conservative centrists like Clinton and Kerry
BWAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!1
Thanks for the demonstration. The US is so far to the right that
most
Americans don't even know what a real progressive liberal is
anymore.
"Progressive" and "liberal" are incompatible terms.
Oh, really? What's the difference? Please enlighten us and don't
forget to
tell us if that's your own take or if it's based on some sort of
political
philosophy.
That's the first time I've ever seen somebody make such an idiotic
comment. I mean Hood, BTW. Progressives (i.e. Liberalism) is about
changing society from one point to the next with the hope that the
changes will be for the greater good. Conservatism (the opposite) is
about maintaining the status quo on the logic of "better the devil you
know." Libertarianism, the third major political stance, is about
getting rid of government altogether because both sides advocate the
subjugation of people for their greater "good" (often with disasterous
results). That's probably why staunch conservatives lump Libertarians
as "leftists" (for their social policies) while true leftists lump them
in as "hard right" (for support for a true free market economy instead
of the chrony capitalism we got right now).
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| User: "Rump Ranger" |
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28 Jan 2005 01:06:09 AM |
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Tukla Ratte wrote:
James H. Hood wrote:
Tukla Ratte <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
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< snip >
It's very sad that the US has jerked so far to the extreme right
that
conservative centrists like Clinton and Kerry
BWAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!1
Thanks for the demonstration. The US is so far to the right that
most
Americans don't even know what a real progressive liberal is anymore.
Not to mention they lump all Libertarians into the group as "librool"
as well. No matter how much you explain to them, Libertarianism isn't
liberalism.
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| User: "raven1" |
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24 Jan 2005 12:42:30 AM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:43:50 -0600, "James H. Hood"
<jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote:
<sstevelp@aol.com> wrote in message
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The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted statistical
methods.
Just like the 2004 election exit polls that showed Trotskerry the winner.
Ah. I see my request above for a substantive reply was a waste of
time.
<plonk>
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| User: "James H. Hood" |
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24 Jan 2005 09:02:44 PM |
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raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:43:50 -0600, "James H. Hood"
<jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote:
<sstevelp@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106486911.652695.71870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted statistical
methods.
Just like the 2004 election exit polls that showed Trotskerry the winner.
Ah. I see my request above for a substantive reply was a waste of
time.
<plonk>
Hey, it's not my fault you run from a factual answer.
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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24 Jan 2005 04:13:35 PM |
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raven1 wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:43:50 -0600, "James H. Hood"
<jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote:
<sstevelp@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106486911.652695.71870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted statistical
methods.
Just like the 2004 election exit polls that showed Trotskerry the winner.
Ah. I see my request above for a substantive reply was a waste of
time.
I hope you didn't pass out from shock.
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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| User: "stoney" |
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24 Jan 2005 07:01:18 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:43:50 -0600, "James H. Hood"
<jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote:
<sstevelp@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106486911.652695.71870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
The claim published in The Lancet on Iraqis killed by Bushes war
was a peer reviewed statistical analysis based on accepted statistical
methods.
Just like the 2004 election exit polls that showed Trotskerry the winner.
What a mindless asswipe!
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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