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"johac" |
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15 Nov 2006 01:40:06 AM |
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Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
Superstition does it again.
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Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Archeologists look at the toilet rituals that shortened the lives of the
men who created the Dead Sea Scrolls.
By Thomas H. Maugh II
Times Staff Writer
November 14, 2006
Following directions in the Dead Sea Scrolls, archeologists have found
the latrines used by the sect that produced the scrolls, discovering
that efforts to achieve ritual purity inadvertently exposed members to
intestinal parasites that shortened their lives.
The young male zealots who established their sect at Qumran chose a life
of austerity and isolation, but they could not have foreseen the
hardships created by their religiously imposed toilet practices,
researchers said Monday.
"They paid a high price for their holiness," said archeologist James D.
Tabor of the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, one of the
coauthors of a paper appearing in the international journal Revue de
Qumran.
"Some people might laugh, but it is terribly sad," he said. "They were
so dedicated and had such a strenuous lifestyle, but they were probably
lowering their life expectancy and ruining their health in an effort to
do what is right."
The discovery of the unique toilet area provides further evidence
linking the scrolls to Qumran an association that has recently been
called into question by a small but vociferous group of archeologists
who have argued that the settlement was a pottery factory, a country
villa or a Roman fortress, but not a monastery.
The Dead Sea Scrolls, the revisionists claim, were actually hidden in
the caves of Qumran by Jews fleeing the devastation of Jerusalem during
the Roman suppression beginning in AD 66. The majority of archeologists,
in contrast, argue that the scrolls were copies produced by a small
sect, generally called the Essenes, who lived at Qumran.
Because the location of the latrine was specified in two of the most
important scrolls found at the site, its discovery provides strong
evidence associating the settlement with the scrolls, Tabor said.
Tabor and his colleagues "make a pretty good case," said Hershel Shanks,
editor of the Biblical Archeology Review. Nonetheless, he added, "the
argument about whether it is an Essene community will go on for many
years and maybe never be settled."
Interest in Qumran dates back to 1947, when Bedouin tribesmen discovered
three ancient manuscripts in a cave on the northwest shore of the Dead
Sea, about 10 miles south of the West Bank city of Jericho. Subsequent
searches yielded about 900 manuscripts and fragments dating from about
250 BC to AD 68.
Some of the manuscripts are copies of books of the Old Testament, while
others are related to more mundane aspects of life.
The Catholic priest Roland de Vaux excavated part of Qumran in the 1950s
and concluded that it had been inhabited by an apocalyptic Jewish sect
that copied the manuscripts and eventually hid them from the invading
Romans. That conclusion is still widely accepted.
The Essenes are one of very few ancient groups whose toilet practices
were documented. The 1st century Jewish historian Josephus noted that
members of the group normally dug holes and buried their waste outside
the city. The group was not allowed to defecate on the Sabbath, he said,
because its members were prohibited from leaving the city.
Two of the Dead Sea Scrolls note that the latrines should be situated
northwest of the settlement, at a distance of 1,000 to 3,000 cubits
about 450 to 1,350 yards and out of sight of the settlement.
Mulling these guidelines, Tabor noted that there is a natural bluff
about 1,000 yards northwest of Qumran, blocking the view of the area
behind it. The soil there, he said, "looked different" from that around
it.
Eventually, Tabor and Joe E. Zias of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem,
an expert on ancient latrines, went to the site and took samples from
the area and from other areas.
"The earth was so nice and soft, while the rest of the desert was very
hard," Zias said. "In fact, I broke my pick collecting control samples
from the other areas."
Zias sent samples to Stephanie Harter-Lailheugue of the CNRS Laboratory
for Anthropology in Marseille, France. She found preserved eggs and
other remnants of roundworms, tapeworms, whipworms and pinworms, all
human intestinal parasites.
Samples from the surrounding areas contained no parasites, while a
sample from the stable area of the settlement contained a species of
animal worms.
"The evidence shows conclusively that the area was a toilet," Zias said.
Had the waste been dumped on the surface, as is the practice of Bedouins
in the area, the parasites would have quickly been killed by sunlight.
Buried, they could persist for a year or longer, infecting anyone who
walked through the soil.
The situation was made worse by the fact that the Essenes had to pass
through an immersion cistern, or miqvot, before returning to the
settlement. The water would have served as a breeding ground for the
parasites.
The ritual cleansing "is a total immersion, which means that it gets in
your ears, in your eyes and in your mouth," Zias said. "It is not hard
to imagine how sick everyone must have been."
The sickness is reflected in the Qumran cemetery, which had been
partially excavated previously.
"The graveyard at Qumran is the unhealthiest group I have ever studied
in over 30 years," Zias said.
Fewer than 6% of the men buried there survived to age 40, he said. In
contrast, cemeteries from the same period excavated at Jericho show that
half the men lived beyond age 40.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
15 Nov 2006 09:17:26 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
--
"I condemn false prophets, I condemn the effort
to take away the power of rational decision, to
drain people of their free will--and a hell of a
lot of money in the bargain. Religions vary in
their degree of idiocy, but I reject them all.
For most people, religion is nothing more than a
substitute for a malfunctioning brain." --Gene Roddenberry
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
16 Nov 2006 12:10:10 AM |
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In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders. God would never let
anything bad happen because of it." Sure.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
17 Nov 2006 02:18:35 PM |
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In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
--
"I condemn false prophets, I condemn the effort
to take away the power of rational decision, to
drain people of their free will--and a hell of a
lot of money in the bargain. Religions vary in
their degree of idiocy, but I reject them all.
For most people, religion is nothing more than a
substitute for a malfunctioning brain." --Gene Roddenberry
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
18 Nov 2006 01:30:32 AM |
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In article <MPG.1fc7c7079dd404bd98975a@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
18 Nov 2006 03:03:15 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:30:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6CE5EB.23303217112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <MPG.1fc7c7079dd404bd98975a@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
19 Nov 2006 12:03:33 AM |
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In article <a2jtl2hght8nf0npkms4tm8370lgmjedue@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:30:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6CE5EB.23303217112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <MPG.1fc7c7079dd404bd98975a@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
22 Nov 2006 10:44:15 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:03:33 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <a2jtl2hght8nf0npkms4tm8370lgmjedue@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:30:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6CE5EB.23303217112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <MPG.1fc7c7079dd404bd98975a@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
23 Nov 2006 01:56:43 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:44:15 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <7o9am211gjabssl7i2ufnfpsoa458ot6dc@4ax.com>
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:03:33 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <a2jtl2hght8nf0npkms4tm8370lgmjedue@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:30:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6CE5EB.23303217112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <MPG.1fc7c7079dd404bd98975a@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
--
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
26 Nov 2006 11:01:57 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:26:43 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:44:15 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <7o9am211gjabssl7i2ufnfpsoa458ot6dc@4ax.com>
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:03:33 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <a2jtl2hght8nf0npkms4tm8370lgmjedue@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:30:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6CE5EB.23303217112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <MPG.1fc7c7079dd404bd98975a@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
They're safe.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
26 Nov 2006 02:05:53 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:01:57 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <n3ijm2hquudm8q92l0d2equadn806pck7d@4ax.com>
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:26:43 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:44:15 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <7o9am211gjabssl7i2ufnfpsoa458ot6dc@4ax.com>
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:03:33 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <a2jtl2hght8nf0npkms4tm8370lgmjedue@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:30:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6CE5EB.23303217112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <MPG.1fc7c7079dd404bd98975a@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
They're safe.
Does that mean that Genesis is WRONG??
I don't know how I am going to cope...
--
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28 Nov 2006 04:10:16 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:35:53 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:01:57 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <n3ijm2hquudm8q92l0d2equadn806pck7d@4ax.com>
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:26:43 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
They're safe.
Does that mean that Genesis is WRONG??
I don't know how I am going to cope...
Mope.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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28 Nov 2006 05:07:07 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:10:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <gtcpm2ttjk9g0at0rn2ck0ld97pshfvn2u@4ax.com>
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:35:53 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:01:57 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <n3ijm2hquudm8q92l0d2equadn806pck7d@4ax.com>
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:26:43 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
They're safe.
Does that mean that Genesis is WRONG??
I don't know how I am going to cope...
Mope.
Mope on a Pope.
--
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29 Nov 2006 10:29:32 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:37:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:10:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <gtcpm2ttjk9g0at0rn2ck0ld97pshfvn2u@4ax.com>
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:35:53 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:01:57 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <n3ijm2hquudm8q92l0d2equadn806pck7d@4ax.com>
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:26:43 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
They're safe.
Does that mean that Genesis is WRONG??
I don't know how I am going to cope...
Mope.
Mope on a Pope.
Pope on a rope?
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
30 Nov 2006 12:56:40 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <sgnsm2lcuso61tpp7uc3c5iuni411u1tcs@4ax.com>
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:37:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:10:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <gtcpm2ttjk9g0at0rn2ck0ld97pshfvn2u@4ax.com>
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:35:53 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:01:57 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <n3ijm2hquudm8q92l0d2equadn806pck7d@4ax.com>
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:26:43 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
They're safe.
Does that mean that Genesis is WRONG??
I don't know how I am going to cope...
Mope.
Mope on a Pope.
Pope on a rope?
The Italians should have added one more to the fun Mussolini
noose-fest.
--
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| User: "stoney" |
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02 Dec 2006 08:01:43 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:26:40 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <sgnsm2lcuso61tpp7uc3c5iuni411u1tcs@4ax.com>
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:37:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
They're safe.
Does that mean that Genesis is WRONG??
I don't know how I am going to cope...
Mope.
Mope on a Pope.
Pope on a rope?
The Italians should have added one more to the fun Mussolini
noose-fest.
Yes, but there wasn't the room to tie one on.....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
03 Dec 2006 07:26:38 PM |
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:01:43 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <6vb4n2tt5mbfec74ogt60euov7hnpokrho@4ax.com>
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:26:40 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <sgnsm2lcuso61tpp7uc3c5iuni411u1tcs@4ax.com>
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:37:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
They're safe.
Does that mean that Genesis is WRONG??
I don't know how I am going to cope...
Mope.
Mope on a Pope.
Pope on a rope?
The Italians should have added one more to the fun Mussolini
noose-fest.
Yes, but there wasn't the room to tie one on.....
Nail 'em up.
Nail some sense into 'em, I say!
--
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 Dec 2006 07:17:23 PM |
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:56:38 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:01:43 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <6vb4n2tt5mbfec74ogt60euov7hnpokrho@4ax.com>
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:26:40 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <sgnsm2lcuso61tpp7uc3c5iuni411u1tcs@4ax.com>
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:37:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
They're safe.
Does that mean that Genesis is WRONG??
I don't know how I am going to cope...
Mope.
Mope on a Pope.
Pope on a rope?
The Italians should have added one more to the fun Mussolini
noose-fest.
Yes, but there wasn't the room to tie one on.....
Nail 'em up.
Nail some sense into 'em, I say!
incense?
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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04 Dec 2006 08:01:30 PM |
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:17:23 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <d4i9n2lkcrt7qa05qd1nc39kivg451b1vu@4ax.com>
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:56:38 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:01:43 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <6vb4n2tt5mbfec74ogt60euov7hnpokrho@4ax.com>
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:26:40 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <sgnsm2lcuso61tpp7uc3c5iuni411u1tcs@4ax.com>
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:37:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
They're safe.
Does that mean that Genesis is WRONG??
I don't know how I am going to cope...
Mope.
Mope on a Pope.
Pope on a rope?
The Italians should have added one more to the fun Mussolini
noose-fest.
Yes, but there wasn't the room to tie one on.....
Nail 'em up.
Nail some sense into 'em, I say!
incense?
I'm not just incensed, I'm bloody furious!
--
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| User: "stoney" |
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07 Dec 2006 07:55:03 PM |
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On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:31:30 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:17:23 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <d4i9n2lkcrt7qa05qd1nc39kivg451b1vu@4ax.com>
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:56:38 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:01:43 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <6vb4n2tt5mbfec74ogt60euov7hnpokrho@4ax.com>
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:26:40 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <sgnsm2lcuso61tpp7uc3c5iuni411u1tcs@4ax.com>
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:37:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
Don't forget all the marine critters who live at great depths.
And the bacteria that lives miles down in solid rock.
They're safe.
Does that mean that Genesis is WRONG??
I don't know how I am going to cope...
Mope.
Mope on a Pope.
Pope on a rope?
The Italians should have added one more to the fun Mussolini
noose-fest.
Yes, but there wasn't the room to tie one on.....
Nail 'em up.
Nail some sense into 'em, I say!
incense?
I'm not just incensed, I'm bloody furious!
No change then.....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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19 Nov 2006 01:37:29 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:03:33 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-7232E9.22033318112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <a2jtl2hght8nf0npkms4tm8370lgmjedue@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:30:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6CE5EB.23303217112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <MPG.1fc7c7079dd404bd98975a@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them, they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
That could be because it's all infantile *****.
That *might* have something to do with the lack of an explantation?
--
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19 Nov 2006 11:12:19 PM |
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In article <7b20m2p5c9nmbs5j1kg4h5fnfu4q19ulg1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:03:33 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-7232E9.22033318112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <a2jtl2hght8nf0npkms4tm8370lgmjedue@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:30:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6CE5EB.23303217112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <MPG.1fc7c7079dd404bd98975a@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be
buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the
bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been
a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them,
they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
That could be because it's all infantile *****.
That *might* have something to do with the lack of an explantation?
--
Of all the biblical nonsense, this one is so obviously ***** for
dozens of reasons, that I don't see how anyone can say they believe in
it with a straight face.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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25 Nov 2006 09:33:07 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:12:19 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7b20m2p5c9nmbs5j1kg4h5fnfu4q19ulg1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
[]
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be
buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the
bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been
a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them,
they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
That could be because it's all infantile *****.
That *might* have something to do with the lack of an explantation?
--
Of all the biblical nonsense, this one is so obviously ***** for
dozens of reasons, that I don't see how anyone can say they believe in
it with a straight face.
/cue the Red Queen's comment about practicing.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
27 Nov 2006 11:48:28 PM |
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In article <6m2im21503h24mo3jcl7sioarksj252kj6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:12:19 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7b20m2p5c9nmbs5j1kg4h5fnfu4q19ulg1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
[]
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be
buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the
bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill
the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always
been
a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn
them,
they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush
could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every
living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky
old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
That could be because it's all infantile *****.
That *might* have something to do with the lack of an explantation?
--
Of all the biblical nonsense, this one is so obviously ***** for
dozens of reasons, that I don't see how anyone can say they believe in
it with a straight face.
/cue the Red Queen's comment about practicing.
Welcome to Blunderland, the abode of the fundies.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
29 Nov 2006 10:28:45 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:48:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6m2im21503h24mo3jcl7sioarksj252kj6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:12:19 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7b20m2p5c9nmbs5j1kg4h5fnfu4q19ulg1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
[]
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be
buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the
bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill
the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always
been
a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn
them,
they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush
could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every
living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky
old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
That could be because it's all infantile *****.
That *might* have something to do with the lack of an explantation?
--
Of all the biblical nonsense, this one is so obviously ***** for
dozens of reasons, that I don't see how anyone can say they believe in
it with a straight face.
/cue the Red Queen's comment about practicing.
Welcome to Blunderland, the abode of the fundies.
And they even managed to screw that up.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
28 Nov 2006 12:56:26 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:48:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C2D9CE.21482827112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <6m2im21503h24mo3jcl7sioarksj252kj6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:12:19 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7b20m2p5c9nmbs5j1kg4h5fnfu4q19ulg1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
[]
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be
buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the
bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill
the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always
been
a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn
them,
they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush
could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every
living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky
old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
That could be because it's all infantile *****.
That *might* have something to do with the lack of an explantation?
--
Of all the biblical nonsense, this one is so obviously ***** for
dozens of reasons, that I don't see how anyone can say they believe in
it with a straight face.
/cue the Red Queen's comment about practicing.
Welcome to Blunderland, the abode of the fundies.
"Blunderland"? Outright FRAUDLAND more like it.
--
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
29 Nov 2006 12:30:04 AM |
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In article <ubnnm2drdrob7dsp062r4it1vrrhngigs6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:48:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C2D9CE.21482827112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <6m2im21503h24mo3jcl7sioarksj252kj6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:12:19 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7b20m2p5c9nmbs5j1kg4h5fnfu4q19ulg1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
[]
In article
<jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be
buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as
he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the
bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill
the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always
been
a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease.
Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as
well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn
them,
they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush
could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every
living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a
leaky
old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether
the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
That could be because it's all infantile *****.
That *might* have something to do with the lack of an explantation?
--
Of all the biblical nonsense, this one is so obviously ***** for
dozens of reasons, that I don't see how anyone can say they believe in
it with a straight face.
/cue the Red Queen's comment about practicing.
Welcome to Blunderland, the abode of the fundies.
"Blunderland"? Outright FRAUDLAND more like it.
--
Ruled by King Prevaricatus the Liar.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
20 Nov 2006 02:04:55 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:12:19 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-913E50.21121919112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <7b20m2p5c9nmbs5j1kg4h5fnfu4q19ulg1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:03:33 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-7232E9.22033318112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <a2jtl2hght8nf0npkms4tm8370lgmjedue@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:30:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6CE5EB.23303217112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <MPG.1fc7c7079dd404bd98975a@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be
buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the
bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always been
a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn them,
they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
That could be because it's all infantile *****.
That *might* have something to do with the lack of an explantation?
--
Of all the biblical nonsense, this one is so obviously ***** for
dozens of reasons, that I don't see how anyone can say they believe in
it with a straight face.
Botox.
--
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Poor Potty Habits Doomed Sect |
20 Nov 2006 11:48:07 PM |
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In article <uco2m2dndqn6qf7ej63vdah8j1788uea24@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:12:19 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-913E50.21121919112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <7b20m2p5c9nmbs5j1kg4h5fnfu4q19ulg1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:03:33 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-7232E9.22033318112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <a2jtl2hght8nf0npkms4tm8370lgmjedue@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:30:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6CE5EB.23303217112006@news.giganews.com>
In article <MPG.1fc7c7079dd404bd98975a@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-48C761.22101015112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
In article <MPG.1fc4dd707d9cbec4989754@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-F6967A.23400614112006@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@sbcglobal.com says...
Superstition does it again.
Latrine practices posed health risks to sect
Yep, actually, the bible commands that the fecal material be
buried,
because Yahweh claims that he doesn't want to step in it as he's
walking
throught the camps. As they point out, if they followed the
bedouin
practices and left it on the surface, then the sun would kill
the
bacteria. But more importantly, the mikvot baths have always
been
a
crazy idea, since they are a veritable fountain of disease. Of
course,
jebus endorsed this sort of wallowing in pools of filth as well.
I'm sure that if it were possible to go back in time and warn
them,
they
would reply: "But we're only following God's orders.
Yes, as Dawkins said, religions were some early pioneers of the
"Nuremberg Defense", far before the Nazis tried it. Vee ver only
following orders.
Of course their god was the biggest war criminal of them all. Not
Hitler, nor Stalin, nor Attila, nor Genghis Khan, nor George Bush
could
have imagined, even in their wildest dreams, exterminating every
living
thing on earth except for a handful of people and animals in a leaky
old
boat.
And fish?
--
Some fish too, although no one has been able to tell me yet whether the
'flood' was fresh water or salt water and how many species of fish
and/or marine mammals Noah had to also take on the leaky old boat.
That could be because it's all infantile *****.
That *might* have something to do with the lack of an explantation?
--
Of all the biblical nonsense, this one is so obviously ***** for
dozens of reasons, that I don't see how anyone can say they believe in
it with a straight face.
Botox.
--
Lot's of it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .co | | | | | | | | | | |
