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"Sound of Trumpet" |
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05 Oct 2006 01:25:27 PM |
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Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
LifeSiteNews ^ | 9/28/06 | John-Henry Westen
Posted on 09/28/2006 4:24:00 PM PDT by wagglebee
VATICAN CITY, September 28, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In an address to
the new German ambassador to the Vatican today, Pope Benedict XVI
expressed concern about his native country's legal stance on abortion
and homosexual civil unions.
The Pope spoke of the "protection of marriage and the family" noting
that "legislation proposed by the government introducing new forms of
marital unions that depart from the natural family unit" threaten to
undermine it.
Benedict lamented the "totally unjustifiable abortions that continue to
claim the lives of many innocent unborn children." He added, they
"remain a painful concern for the Holy See and of the whole church."
He hoped that "the present debates over late-term abortion that is
going on now, can impress upon responsible politicians the awareness
that expected problems of disability of an unborn child cannot be a
valid justifiable reason for interrupting a pregnancy." The Pope noted
"the life of a disabled child is just as valuable and wanted by God."
Moreover he said that "life on earth can never and for nobody offer a
guarantee of life without bodily, mental or spiritual limitations."
The Catholic Church, promised the Pope, will "never cease" to warn
nations of the "ethical problems of embryonic stem cell research."
See the full speech (in German):
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060928_ambassador-germany_ge.html
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Drive the Loathsome Agendas of the RRR Cult into Extinction." |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
07 Oct 2006 02:09:56 PM |
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ANALYZING ABORTION-ON-REQUEST* in the USA
*(Abortion Rights as they have existed since 1-22-73)
Abortion terminates entities (z/e/fs: zygotes, embryoes &
fetuses, up until the 7th month of gestation) which have ALL
of these characteristics in common with sperm and ova:
-- Human
-- Unique
-- As a stage of development, indispensable to future birth
-- Have NEVER experienced conscious awareness*
-- Alive
...which makes it hypocritical when abortion opponents
try to defend z/e/fs but NOT sperm and ova.
* (AFTER the 7th month of gestation begins, conscious
awareness may be possible, but all the other of the above-
listed attributes still apply.)
And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
majority of Americans:
-- In NO way condemns abortion
-- Doesn't even MENTION abortion
-- By Jesus' day, abortion had been around for 1,000 yrs.
-- Contains NO defenses of s/o/z/e/fs
-- Reserves ALL of its protection for already-BORN people
-- That the Bible regards personhood to begin at BIRTH is
made clear by it's immense emphasis on the importance
of BIRTH order, BIRTHrights. and first-BORNS.
-- In certain cases, condemned BABIES to horrible deaths
-- Never indicates that there is anything "special" about
fertilization
-- Thus making z/e/f and sperm & ova of EQUAL worth
Abortion-on-request enables women to:
-- Put their lives back on track immediately
-- Restore their well-being to pre-unplanned pregnancy levels
-- Vast majority of women are happy with this decision
-- Most women have no regrets
-- Restore their full range of future opportunities
-- Avoid physical difficulties of a 9-month pregnancy
-- Especially important for young girls, ~12-16
-- Statistically 6-10 times safer than carrying-to-term
-- Avoid the trauma of adopting-out, and wondering later
-- Avoid possibility of changing mind about adopting-out
-- Reduce likelihood of long-term economic deprivation
-- Avoid bringing child into less-loving home
-- Avoid bringing child into unstable environment
-- Wait until timing is better before having children
-- Who then are MORE likely to be loved
-- Who then are MORE likely to be in stable home
-- And thus are LESS like to have troubled childhoods
-- And therefore more likely NOT to become criminals
-- And thus are MORE likely to become successful
Legal abortion-on-request:
-- Is exponentially safer than illegal abortions
-- Thus saving the lives of hundreds or thousands of women/yr.
-- Has been available throughout the USA since early 1973
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 30 million women have had them
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 40 million abortions have been done
Other related facts include:
-- MOST women who have abortions go on to HAVE kids later,
when the timing is better
-- Those children would NOT have been born if the abortions
had not taken place earlier, because the same sperm and
ova would not have matched up.
-- Those "2nd-round" kids STARTED reaching age 13 in
significant numbers by 1988. By the early 1990s, millions
of those "2nd-round" kids were in their mid-teens by the
early 1990s.
-- Mid-teens is the highest risk age for crime, and this
continues into the early 20s.
-- As pointed out above, wanted and loved children are
LESS prone to criminal behavior.
-- By 1995, millions of "2nd-round kids" were entering the
workforce. Perhaps a million-plus MORE have entered it
every year SINCE. By 2000, the oldest ones had reached
the age where they could be getting quite successful.
-- Since the early 1990s, the rate of violent crime in the USA
has declined dramatically, and by 2000 was at 40-year
lows in many categories.
-- The decade of the 1990s, and the 21st century to date,
in the USA, has been the most economically-dynamic
period of time for any nation in the entire history of the
world.
Although the exact figures may be impossible to derive, the
probability that abortion-on-request has SIGNIFICANTLY benefitted
all of America's society in terms of the crime rate and the economy
is QUITE strong, despite the temporary anomaly caused by the attack
on Sept. 11, 2001. And a strong U.S. economy benefits the entire
world.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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05 Oct 2006 04:41:50 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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| User: "BAM" |
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05 Oct 2006 05:40:50 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
BAM
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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05 Oct 2006 10:28:07 PM |
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL
do the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
Your analogy is slightly lacking - since there's generally a consensus that
slavery isn't a good thing. Come back when you have something resembling an
argument.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
06 Oct 2006 01:11:45 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkpsd6t96g.fsf@eris.io.com...
"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL
do the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions
about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
Your analogy is slightly lacking - since there's generally a consensus
that
slavery isn't a good thing. Come back when you have something resembling
an
argument.
That is far too ignorant to deserve a response. Except to say that my
analogy was 100% perfect.
BAM
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| User: "junegill" |
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06 Oct 2006 11:42:14 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkpsd6t96g.fsf@eris.io.com...
"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL
do the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions
about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
Your analogy is slightly lacking - since there's generally a consensus
that
slavery isn't a good thing. Come back when you have something resembling
an
argument.
There's also the fact that slavery involves thinking, feeling people, who
would suffer under a regime of slavery. Except for the pregnant woman,
there is no thinking, feeling person involved in an abortion.
As for foetal abnormality, let those who would forbid abortion in such a
case, have the task of caring for such handicapped children.
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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06 Oct 2006 05:57:41 PM |
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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkpsd6t96g.fsf@eris.io.com...
"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions
about that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
Your analogy is slightly lacking - since there's generally a consensus that
slavery isn't a good thing. Come back when you have something resembling
an argument.
There's also the fact that slavery involves thinking, feeling people, who
would suffer under a regime of slavery. Except for the pregnant woman,
there is no thinking, feeling person involved in an abortion.
In too many cases, the ones demanding an end to abortion don't think or feel,
either.
As for foetal abnormality, let those who would forbid abortion in such a
case, have the task of caring for such handicapped children.
Have a pair of earplugs ready for the screaming from the self-righteous
hypocrites who would never be held responsible for *their* words. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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| User: "junegill" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
07 Oct 2006 11:37:23 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhcyhxday.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkpsd6t96g.fsf@eris.io.com...
"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own
decisions
about that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do
the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
Your analogy is slightly lacking - since there's generally a consensus
that
slavery isn't a good thing. Come back when you have something
resembling
an argument.
There's also the fact that slavery involves thinking, feeling people, who
would suffer under a regime of slavery. Except for the pregnant woman,
there is no thinking, feeling person involved in an abortion.
In too many cases, the ones demanding an end to abortion don't think or
feel,
either.
Too true.
As for foetal abnormality, let those who would forbid abortion in such a
case, have the task of caring for such handicapped children.
Have a pair of earplugs ready for the screaming from the self-righteous
hypocrites who would never be held responsible for *their* words. ;-)
Oh no! They're always very silent when that's suggested.
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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| User: "BOB" |
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05 Oct 2006 05:43:28 PM |
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote in
news:LRfVg.34353$tT6.12444@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and
he WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions
about that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
BAM
Bad analogy BUM. Slavery is against the law and abortion isn't.
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
05 Oct 2006 09:07:21 PM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98539FEDBF21CSD@70.169.32.36...
"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote in
news:LRfVg.34353$tT6.12444@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and
he WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions
about that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
BAM
Bad analogy BUM. Slavery is against the law and abortion isn't.
No - *that* is a bad analogy. Because at one time slavery was *not* against
the law. That didn't make it good you dodo.
BAM
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06 Oct 2006 12:11:39 AM |
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BAM <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery,
He isn't. He's is in favor of slavery. Especially for pregnant women.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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06 Oct 2006 12:13:35 PM |
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BAM wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
There's a difference though. Secular law also prevents slavery, as does
any decent moral system. No decent moral system thinks it has the power
to control a woman's body
--
Lucifer, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and General
Purpose Igor
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
BAM
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
06 Oct 2006 01:29:04 PM |
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"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160154815.756231.256470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do
the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
There's a difference though. Secular law also prevents slavery, as does
any decent moral system. No decent moral system thinks it has the power
to control a woman's body
What if that woman's body picks up a machete and swings it at you?
BAM
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
06 Oct 2006 05:59:47 PM |
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160154815.756231.256470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions
about that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
There's a difference though. Secular law also prevents slavery, as does
any decent moral system. No decent moral system thinks it has the power
to control a woman's body
What if that woman's body picks up a machete and swings it at you?
Given your self-righteous crusade, the question should be: what if she picks
it up and swings at YOU, Bryan?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
06 Oct 2006 08:15:52 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd595xd7g.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160154815.756231.256470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and
he
WILL do the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own
decisions
about that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do
the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
There's a difference though. Secular law also prevents slavery, as does
any decent moral system. No decent moral system thinks it has the power
to control a woman's body
What if that woman's body picks up a machete and swings it at you?
Given your self-righteous crusade, the question should be: what if she
picks
it up and swings at YOU, Bryan?
Translated: "BAM wins again."
BAM
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
07 Oct 2006 12:17:32 AM |
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd595xd7g.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160154815.756231.256470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own
decisions about that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
There's a difference though. Secular law also prevents slavery, as does
any decent moral system. No decent moral system thinks it has the power
to control a woman's body
What if that woman's body picks up a machete and swings it at you?
Given your self-righteous crusade, the question should be: what if she
picks it up and swings at YOU, Bryan?
Translated: "BAM wins again."
So, getting sliced in half is winning? You need to go after the Phelps freaks
in Topeka...maybe you could annihilate each other, which would be a benefit to
the rest of us.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
10 Oct 2006 11:23:08 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160154815.756231.256470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and
he
WILL do the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own
decisions about that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL
do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions
about
that.
There's a difference though. Secular law also prevents slavery, as
does
any decent moral system. No decent moral system thinks it has the
power
to control a woman's body
What if that woman's body picks up a machete and swings it at you?
Given your self-righteous crusade, the question should be: what if she
picks it up and swings at YOU, Bryan?
Translated: "BAM wins again."
So, getting sliced in half is winning? You need to go after the Phelps
freaks
in Topeka...maybe you could annihilate each other, which would be a
benefit to
the rest of us.
The Phelps' are not far off from the theology of those who landed at
Plymouth Rock. Hardly Catholic.
BAM
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
06 Oct 2006 06:00:40 PM |
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BAM wrote:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160154815.756231.256470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do
the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
There's a difference though. Secular law also prevents slavery, as does
any decent moral system. No decent moral system thinks it has the power
to control a woman's body
What if that woman's body picks up a machete and swings it at you?
With her own body, not with mine you motuhbreatheing christnut fuckwit
troll.
--
Lucifer, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and General
Purpose Igor
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
BAM
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
06 Oct 2006 08:16:16 PM |
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"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160175640.160127.109660@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160154815.756231.256470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and
he
WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions
about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do
the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
There's a difference though. Secular law also prevents slavery, as does
any decent moral system. No decent moral system thinks it has the power
to control a woman's body
What if that woman's body picks up a machete and swings it at you?
With her own body, not with mine you motuhbreatheing christnut fuckwit
troll.
Go back to Hell.
BAM
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
07 Oct 2006 06:32:22 AM |
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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 21:16:16 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> in alt.abortion with message-id
<rdDVg.34860$tT6.21140@bignews7.bellsouth.net> wrote:
Go back to Hell.
Prove any such place exists,
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
05 Oct 2006 05:46:21 PM |
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:40:50 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
BAM
It's nice to know that we can always count on you for a bad analogy or
other stupid comment.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
05 Oct 2006 09:07:58 PM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:no2bi258o8ho1446dcl81n83ouda3uv1fl@4ax.com...
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:40:50 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
BAM
It's nice to know that we can always count on you for a bad analogy or
other stupid comment.
Why don't you abort earth?
BAM
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
05 Oct 2006 10:29:15 PM |
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> writes:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:no2bi258o8ho1446dcl81n83ouda3uv1fl@4ax.com...
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:40:50 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions
about that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
It's nice to know that we can always count on you for a bad analogy or
other stupid comment.
Why don't you abort earth?
Maybe because it's YOUR fantasy, and thus your problem?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
06 Oct 2006 04:46:36 AM |
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BAM skrev:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:no2bi258o8ho1446dcl81n83ouda3uv1fl@4ax.com...
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:40:50 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
BAM
It's nice to know that we can always count on you for a bad analogy or
other stupid comment.
Why don't you abort earth?
Raven's point demonstrated.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
05 Oct 2006 10:35:21 PM |
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 22:07:58 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:no2bi258o8ho1446dcl81n83ouda3uv1fl@4ax.com...
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:40:50 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wpmsan5.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Well, if Pope Eggs is against abortion, he shouldn't have one...and he
WILL do
the rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about
that.
Analogy:
If the Pope is against slavery, he shouldn't have one...and he WILL do the
rest of us the courtesy of letting us make our own decisions about that.
BAM
It's nice to know that we can always count on you for a bad analogy or
other stupid comment.
Why don't you abort earth?
Q.E.D.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
05 Oct 2006 03:54:17 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote in message
news:1160072727.842616.228660@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
Who gives a crap what that freak in a dress thinks?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
06 Oct 2006 04:40:12 AM |
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In article <1160072727.842616.228660@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
VATICAN CITY, September 28, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In an address to
the new German ambassador to the Vatican today, Pope Benedict XVI
expressed concern about his native country's legal stance on abortion
and homosexual civil unions.
It's a good thing no one cares what that old Hitler Youth thinks...
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
05 Oct 2006 04:53:06 PM |
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On 5 Oct 2006 11:25:27 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1160072727.842616.228660@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710285/posts
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable" Even in Cases of Fetal
Abnormality
That silly what-ever-it-is in the funny hat and the ugly dress is
still mouthing off I see.
Does he qualify as the latest member of the world's longest line of
serial cross-dressers?
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
05 Oct 2006 06:27:40 PM |
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On 5 Oct 2006 11:25:27 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in news message
<1160072727.842616.228660@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable"
Then he shouldn't have one.
Liz #658 BAAWA
You can define anything you want, any way you want. Defining it as such
is not the same as offering real world evidence to support your
assertion. -- Woden
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: Pope: Abortions Are Never Justifiable |
05 Oct 2006 09:08:43 PM |
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"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:165bi21utcef92f7f6c8ctl61rsubnfol8@4ax.com...
On 5 Oct 2006 11:25:27 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in news message
<1160072727.842616.228660@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Pope: Abortions are "Never Justifiable"
Then he shouldn't have one.
Analogy:
Slavery is never justifiable.
Then he shouldn't have one.
BAM
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