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11 Sep 2006 01:32:02 AM |
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Pope Benny - We're losing our Souls to Science. |
Maybe he believes he's channeling Pius IX.
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Faith fading in rich world, alive in poor: Pope
By Philip Pullella and Madeline ChambersSun Sep 10, 12:56 PM ET
Western societies are losing their souls to scientific rationality and
frightening believers in the developing world who still fear God, Pope
Benedict told an open-air mass in Germany on Sunday.
Benedict, on the second day of a visit to his native Bavaria, said that
spreading the word of Jesus Christ was more important than all the
emergency and development aid that rich churches like those in Germany
gave to poor countries.
He also stressed the role of faith in fighting AIDS "by realistically
facing its deeper causes," indirectly confirming the Church view that
pre-marital abstinence and fidelity in marriage are the way to combat
sexually transmitted diseases.
About 250,000 faithful, many of them families with children, gathered at
the fairground for the mass. "I've been here since five o'clock in the
morning," said Kerstin Gessert, 32, from Karlsruhe. "I think it's
important that he has come."
Wearing green and white vestments, the Pope addressed the crowd from a
platform covered by a white canopy.
Some in the crowd wore traditional Bavarian folk dress and sat down to
picnics of sausages and bread after the service.
"Social issues and the Gospel are inseparable," said the Pope. "When we
bring people only knowledge, ability, technical competence and tools, we
bring them too little," he said, hammering away at his central concern
that secularisation and materialism have replaced faith in Western
thinking.
Later, Benedict, 79, who has hinted the visit to his home region could
be his last, led vespers at the Cathedral Of Our Lady in Munich where he
served as archbishop from 1977 to 1982.
The twin green onion domes make the cathedral one of the city's
best-known landmarks. Completed in 1488, it is Bavaria's largest church
and has served as the cathedral for the archbishops of Munich and
Freising since 1821.
Inside, the Pope, clad in glittering vestments of green, silver and
gold, smiled broadly as young girls in first communion dresses and with
flowers in their hair greeted him.
On his six-day trip, Benedict will also visit his birthplace at Marktl
am Inn, the shrine to the Virgin Mary at Altoetting and Regensburg,
where he taught theology from 1969 to 1977.
Police said the bright yellow house where the Pope was born in Marktl am
Inn and which he was due to visit on Monday, was splashed overnight with
two bags of blue paint by vandals.
"CONTEMPT FOR GOD"
At the morning mass Benedict said that Western societies had become
"hard of hearing" about God, saying: "There are too many other
frequencies in our ears. What is said about God strikes us as
pre-scientific, no longer suited for our age."
He contrasted this to a faith he still found in developing countries,
where 70 percent of the world's Catholics now live.
"People in Africa and Asia admire our scientific and technical prowess,
but at the same time they are frightened by a form of rationality which
totally excludes God from man's vision, as if this were the highest form
of reason," he said.
They sensed a "contempt for God" in Western societies and "a cynicism
that considers mockery of the sacred to be an exercise of freedom and
hold up utility as the supreme moral criterion for the future of
scientific research," he said.
He singled out the German Catholic church, one of the world's richest,
as one that generously gives emergency and development aid but plays
down the spreading of the Gospel. "Evangelisation itself should be
foremost," he declared.
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http://tinyurl.com/zh3dk
Also see Pius IX "Syllabus of errors":
http://www.reformation.org/syllabus_of_pius.html
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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11 Sep 2006 02:11:25 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
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Maybe he believes he's channeling Pius IX.
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Faith fading in rich world, alive in poor: Pope
By Philip Pullella and Madeline ChambersSun Sep 10, 12:56 PM ET
Western societies are losing their souls to scientific rationality and
frightening believers in the developing world who still fear God, Pope
Benedict told an open-air mass in Germany on Sunday.
Benedict, on the second day of a visit to his native Bavaria, said that
spreading the word of Jesus Christ was more important than all the
emergency and development aid that rich churches like those in Germany
gave to poor countries.
I guess The Onion article about the starving africans getting much needed
bibles is no longer satire.
You just can't parody these religious fucktards.
He also stressed the role of faith in fighting AIDS "by realistically
facing its deeper causes," indirectly confirming the Church view that
pre-marital abstinence and fidelity in marriage are the way to combat
sexually transmitted diseases.
The cause is a virus, you pointy-headed shitstain!
"Social issues and the Gospel are inseparable," said the Pope. "When we
bring people only knowledge, ability, technical competence and tools, we
bring them too little," he said, hammering away at his central concern
that secularisation and materialism have replaced faith in Western
thinking.
Yeah, like the eradication of smallpox. That was far too little, eh?
Later, Benedict, 79, who has hinted the visit to his home region could
be his last, led vespers at the Cathedral Of Our Lady in Munich where he
served as archbishop from 1977 to 1982.
79, huh? What do you bet the old ***** gets the best medical treatment
money can buy?
Inside, the Pope, clad in glittering vestments of green, silver and
gold, smiled broadly as young girls in first communion dresses and with
flowers in their hair greeted him.
Wow, he dresses just like Jesus! Oh, no, wait, that's Pilate.
"CONTEMPT FOR GOD"
At the morning mass Benedict said that Western societies had become
"hard of hearing" about God, saying: "There are too many other
frequencies in our ears. What is said about God strikes us as
pre-scientific, no longer suited for our age."
How fucking astute!
He contrasted this to a faith he still found in developing countries,
where 70 percent of the world's Catholics now live.
That's because the desperate are more willing to buy your stupid stories.
"People in Africa and Asia admire our scientific and technical prowess,
but at the same time they are frightened by a form of rationality which
totally excludes God from man's vision, as if this were the highest form
of reason," he said.
That's because it is the highest form of reason.
They sensed a "contempt for God" in Western societies and "a cynicism
that considers mockery of the sacred to be an exercise of freedom and
hold up utility as the supreme moral criterion for the future of
scientific research," he said.
He says that as if it's a bad thing.
He singled out the German Catholic church, one of the world's richest,
as one that generously gives emergency and development aid but plays
down the spreading of the Gospel. "Evangelisation itself should be
foremost," he declared.
***** the pope.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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11 Sep 2006 02:54:22 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
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Maybe he believes he's channeling Pius IX.
<snmip>
***** the pope.
I would, but I don't wnat doo-doo on my pee-pee.
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12 Sep 2006 12:32:45 AM |
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In article <jJCdnY-Yzd6BkZjYnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@io.com>,
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-8850CF.23320210092006@news.giganews.com...
Maybe he believes he's channeling Pius IX.
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Faith fading in rich world, alive in poor: Pope
By Philip Pullella and Madeline ChambersSun Sep 10, 12:56 PM ET
Western societies are losing their souls to scientific rationality and
frightening believers in the developing world who still fear God, Pope
Benedict told an open-air mass in Germany on Sunday.
Benedict, on the second day of a visit to his native Bavaria, said that
spreading the word of Jesus Christ was more important than all the
emergency and development aid that rich churches like those in Germany
gave to poor countries.
I guess The Onion article about the starving africans getting much needed
bibles is no longer satire.
You just can't parody these religious fucktards.
He should send missionaries instead. The starving people could use a
little meat in their diet.
He also stressed the role of faith in fighting AIDS "by realistically
facing its deeper causes," indirectly confirming the Church view that
pre-marital abstinence and fidelity in marriage are the way to combat
sexually transmitted diseases.
The cause is a virus, you pointy-headed shitstain!
You mean it's not a curse!
"Social issues and the Gospel are inseparable," said the Pope. "When we
bring people only knowledge, ability, technical competence and tools, we
bring them too little," he said, hammering away at his central concern
that secularisation and materialism have replaced faith in Western
thinking.
Yeah, like the eradication of smallpox. That was far too little, eh?
Maybe he believes that we should limit ourselves to 'faith healing'.
Later, Benedict, 79, who has hinted the visit to his home region could
be his last, led vespers at the Cathedral Of Our Lady in Munich where he
served as archbishop from 1977 to 1982.
79, huh? What do you bet the old ***** gets the best medical treatment
money can buy?
No bet. I believe it.
Inside, the Pope, clad in glittering vestments of green, silver and
gold, smiled broadly as young girls in first communion dresses and with
flowers in their hair greeted him.
Wow, he dresses just like Jesus! Oh, no, wait, that's Pilate.
I wonder what Judas wore.
"CONTEMPT FOR GOD"
At the morning mass Benedict said that Western societies had become
"hard of hearing" about God, saying: "There are too many other
frequencies in our ears. What is said about God strikes us as
pre-scientific, no longer suited for our age."
How fucking astute!
He got one right!
He contrasted this to a faith he still found in developing countries,
where 70 percent of the world's Catholics now live.
That's because the desperate are more willing to buy your stupid stories.\
Desperate and poorly educated.
"People in Africa and Asia admire our scientific and technical prowess,
but at the same time they are frightened by a form of rationality which
totally excludes God from man's vision, as if this were the highest form
of reason," he said.
That's because it is the highest form of reason.
Does he believe that if his god gave us a brain, we shouldn't use it?
They sensed a "contempt for God" in Western societies and "a cynicism
that considers mockery of the sacred to be an exercise of freedom and
hold up utility as the supreme moral criterion for the future of
scientific research," he said.
He says that as if it's a bad thing.
For him, yes. Less money. Less power.
He singled out the German Catholic church, one of the world's richest,
as one that generously gives emergency and development aid but plays
down the spreading of the Gospel. "Evangelisation itself should be
foremost," he declared.
***** the pope.
Amen.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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13 Sep 2006 10:02:54 PM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
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In article <jJCdnY-Yzd6BkZjYnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@io.com>,
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
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(snip)(
***** the pope.
Amen.
I'm glad you understood I was railing at the Pope, and not you! :-) I
realize my post was not clear on this issue.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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11 Sep 2006 02:53:16 AM |
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In article <jJCdnY-Yzd6BkZjYnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@io.com>,
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
***** the pope.
I'll give it a miss. Thanks for the offer, though...
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
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11 Sep 2006 02:57:35 AM |
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*nemo* wrote:
In article <jJCdnY-Yzd6BkZjYnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@io.com>,
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
***** the pope.
I'll give it a miss. Thanks for the offer, though...
Besides, the ***** won't use a condom! <g>
-PF, Atl.
Numbaz n shizzit
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11 Sep 2006 05:49:18 PM |
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In article <1157961455.819280.172480@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
*nemo* wrote:
In article <jJCdnY-Yzd6BkZjYnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@io.com>,
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
***** the pope.
I'll give it a miss. Thanks for the offer, though...
Besides, the ***** won't use a condom! <g>
Oh yeah... right... and in almost 80 years, there's no telling where
that ***** has been. Eurrgh!
-PF, Atl.
Numbaz n shizzit
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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13 Sep 2006 12:03:38 AM |
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Benedict, on the second day of a visit to his native Bavaria, said that
spreading the word of Jesus Christ was more important than all the
emergency and development aid that rich churches like those in Germany
gave to poor countries.
*****! Botswana was one of the most progressive countries in Africa
in regards to fighting HIV/AIDS. Just as it looked the Botswana could
actually overcome the epidemic, these pious fundamentalists come into
the country and tell the inhabitants that condoms aren't reliable,
Jesus wants them to wait, etc.... basically underlying much of the
groundwork the governement made in promoting safe sex. And what's the
result? Their once plumemeting infection rate is surging. But then I
guess it doesn't matter if you just killed thousands (millions?) of
people, created more orphans, and lowered the quality of life of a
whole country, because they'll all go to the giant invisible funland in
the sky.
It takes a very warped reasoning and heart to believe that refugees of
war, famine, and natural disaster need prayers and Jesus more than
drinkable water, medicine, and food.
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15 Sep 2006 07:42:00 PM |
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On 12 Sep 2006 22:03:38 -0700, wrote in
alt.atheism
Benedict, on the second day of a visit to his native Bavaria, said that
spreading the word of Jesus Christ was more important than all the
emergency and development aid that rich churches like those in Germany
gave to poor countries.
*****! Botswana was one of the most progressive countries in Africa
in regards to fighting HIV/AIDS. Just as it looked the Botswana could
actually overcome the epidemic, these pious fundamentalists come into
the country and tell the inhabitants that condoms aren't reliable,
Jesus wants them to wait, etc.... basically underlying much of the
groundwork the governement made in promoting safe sex. And what's the
result? Their once plumemeting infection rate is surging. But then I
guess it doesn't matter if you just killed thousands (millions?) of
people, created more orphans, and lowered the quality of life of a
whole country, because they'll all go to the giant invisible funland in
the sky.
It takes a very warped reasoning and heart to believe that refugees of
war, famine, and natural disaster need prayers and Jesus more than
drinkable water, medicine, and food.
Christianity is the epitome of perversion.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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11 Sep 2006 02:49:57 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-8850CF.23320210092006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
"People in Africa and Asia admire our scientific and technical prowess,
but at the same time they are frightened by a form of rationality which
totally excludes God from man's vision, as if this were the highest form
of reason," he said.
This man appears determined to glory in ignorance. I hope he drives
people away from his church in droves -- he's trying to start another
Dark Age.
According to NPR's report, he also said that science can never solve all
of the world's social ills. Where he got the idea that 1) it is meant
for the solving of social ills, and 2) that his bunko operation has even
the slimmest chance to do so, I'll never know.
The boy needs to grow up. But so long as he keeps playing dress-up, I
doubt that will ever happen.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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12 Sep 2006 12:23:38 AM |
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In article <nemo0037-183B17.03495611092006@news.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-8850CF.23320210092006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
"People in Africa and Asia admire our scientific and technical prowess,
but at the same time they are frightened by a form of rationality which
totally excludes God from man's vision, as if this were the highest form
of reason," he said.
This man appears determined to glory in ignorance. I hope he drives
people away from his church in droves -- he's trying to start another
Dark Age.
Well, if it was good enough for hundreds of popes in the past...
I wonder if they'll ban Galileo's works again.
According to NPR's report, he also said that science can never solve all
of the world's social ills. Where he got the idea that 1) it is meant
for the solving of social ills, and 2) that his bunko operation has even
the slimmest chance to do so, I'll never know.
On the contrary, they want people to be poor and oppressed. Then they
have no place to go but to them for 'solace'. Instead of helping them to
strive to improve their lots, they tell them: "Don't worry. Accept your
lot. Do as we say and God will take care of you in the next life."
Yeah, sure.
The boy needs to grow up. But so long as he keeps playing dress-up, I
doubt that will ever happen.
I don't know about you, but I always feel a little uneasy about men who
wear dresses.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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12 Sep 2006 08:32:25 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-E35440.22233811092006@news.giganews.com...
In article <nemo0037-183B17.03495611092006@news.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-8850CF.23320210092006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
"People in Africa and Asia admire our scientific and technical prowess,
but at the same time they are frightened by a form of rationality which
totally excludes God from man's vision, as if this were the highest
form
of reason," he said.
This man appears determined to glory in ignorance. I hope he drives
people away from his church in droves -- he's trying to start another
Dark Age.
Well, if it was good enough for hundreds of popes in the past...
I wonder if they'll ban Galileo's works again.
According to NPR's report, he also said that science can never solve all
of the world's social ills. Where he got the idea that 1) it is meant
for the solving of social ills, and 2) that his bunko operation has even
the slimmest chance to do so, I'll never know.
On the contrary, they want people to be poor and oppressed. Then they
have no place to go but to them for 'solace'. Instead of helping them to
strive to improve their lots, they tell them: "Don't worry. Accept your
lot. Do as we say and God will take care of you in the next life."
Yeah, sure.
The boy needs to grow up. But so long as he keeps playing dress-up, I
doubt that will ever happen.
I don't know about you, but I always feel a little uneasy about men who
wear dresses.
Yeah, but men in kilts are hot! :)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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12 Sep 2006 11:42:52 PM |
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In article <4mnr00F72cdfU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-E35440.22233811092006@news.giganews.com...
In article <nemo0037-183B17.03495611092006@news.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-8850CF.23320210092006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
"People in Africa and Asia admire our scientific and technical prowess,
but at the same time they are frightened by a form of rationality which
totally excludes God from man's vision, as if this were the highest
form
of reason," he said.
This man appears determined to glory in ignorance. I hope he drives
people away from his church in droves -- he's trying to start another
Dark Age.
Well, if it was good enough for hundreds of popes in the past...
I wonder if they'll ban Galileo's works again.
According to NPR's report, he also said that science can never solve all
of the world's social ills. Where he got the idea that 1) it is meant
for the solving of social ills, and 2) that his bunko operation has even
the slimmest chance to do so, I'll never know.
On the contrary, they want people to be poor and oppressed. Then they
have no place to go but to them for 'solace'. Instead of helping them to
strive to improve their lots, they tell them: "Don't worry. Accept your
lot. Do as we say and God will take care of you in the next life."
Yeah, sure.
The boy needs to grow up. But so long as he keeps playing dress-up, I
doubt that will ever happen.
I don't know about you, but I always feel a little uneasy about men who
wear dresses.
Yeah, but men in kilts are hot! :)
Now there's an idea. Dress the pope in a kilt and give the Swiss Guard
bagpipes and the can all march around St. Peter's Square. :-)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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12 Sep 2006 04:15:32 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:32:25 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <4mnr00F72cdfU1@individual.net>
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-E35440.22233811092006@news.giganews.com...
In article <nemo0037-183B17.03495611092006@news.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-8850CF.23320210092006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
"People in Africa and Asia admire our scientific and technical prowess,
but at the same time they are frightened by a form of rationality which
totally excludes God from man's vision, as if this were the highest
form
of reason," he said.
This man appears determined to glory in ignorance. I hope he drives
people away from his church in droves -- he's trying to start another
Dark Age.
Well, if it was good enough for hundreds of popes in the past...
I wonder if they'll ban Galileo's works again.
According to NPR's report, he also said that science can never solve all
of the world's social ills. Where he got the idea that 1) it is meant
for the solving of social ills, and 2) that his bunko operation has even
the slimmest chance to do so, I'll never know.
On the contrary, they want people to be poor and oppressed. Then they
have no place to go but to them for 'solace'. Instead of helping them to
strive to improve their lots, they tell them: "Don't worry. Accept your
lot. Do as we say and God will take care of you in the next life."
Yeah, sure.
The boy needs to grow up. But so long as he keeps playing dress-up, I
doubt that will ever happen.
I don't know about you, but I always feel a little uneasy about men who
wear dresses.
Yeah, but men in kilts are hot! :)
Technically, they are about 3 degrees cooler than their trousered
brethren.
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15 Sep 2006 07:34:32 PM |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:32:02 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Whereas Benny lost his to Seance.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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16 Sep 2006 01:21:11 AM |
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In article <pjhmg25p98v6ugf24i35ogm69b6gg4j2n3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:32:02 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Whereas Benny lost his to Seance.
LOL! While using the Holy Ouija board.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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17 Sep 2006 12:23:54 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:21:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <pjhmg25p98v6ugf24i35ogm69b6gg4j2n3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:32:02 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Whereas Benny lost his to Seance.
LOL! While using the Holy Ouija board.
And being serviced by his sisters.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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17 Sep 2006 11:46:37 PM |
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In article <u41rg2ppkafcv1f94q3adhces3hcfhhks8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:21:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <pjhmg25p98v6ugf24i35ogm69b6gg4j2n3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:32:02 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Whereas Benny lost his to Seance.
LOL! While using the Holy Ouija board.
And being serviced by his sisters.
Sister Mary Ridingcrop is under the table while Benny is being 'moved by
the spirits'.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Sep 2006 10:42:44 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:46:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <u41rg2ppkafcv1f94q3adhces3hcfhhks8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:21:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <pjhmg25p98v6ugf24i35ogm69b6gg4j2n3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:32:02 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Whereas Benny lost his to Seance.
LOL! While using the Holy Ouija board.
And being serviced by his sisters.
Sister Mary Ridingcrop is under the table while Benny is being 'moved by
the spirits'.
and injecting her with the holy spirit.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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21 Sep 2006 12:30:28 AM |
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In article <fg24h218uhud6c3hu4r4i50cqchejjn50a@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:46:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <u41rg2ppkafcv1f94q3adhces3hcfhhks8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:21:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <pjhmg25p98v6ugf24i35ogm69b6gg4j2n3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:32:02 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Whereas Benny lost his to Seance.
LOL! While using the Holy Ouija board.
And being serviced by his sisters.
Sister Mary Ridingcrop is under the table while Benny is being 'moved by
the spirits'.
and injecting her with the holy spirit.
A second 'baptism'.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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22 Sep 2006 08:50:06 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:30:28 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <fg24h218uhud6c3hu4r4i50cqchejjn50a@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:46:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <u41rg2ppkafcv1f94q3adhces3hcfhhks8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:21:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <pjhmg25p98v6ugf24i35ogm69b6gg4j2n3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:32:02 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Whereas Benny lost his to Seance.
LOL! While using the Holy Ouija board.
And being serviced by his sisters.
Sister Mary Ridingcrop is under the table while Benny is being 'moved by
the spirits'.
and injecting her with the holy spirit.
A second 'baptism'.
Could be a facial....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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23 Sep 2006 12:57:47 AM |
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In article <1m49h29r7pg8bfbsk31705vi9qu9hbf29p@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:30:28 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <fg24h218uhud6c3hu4r4i50cqchejjn50a@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:46:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <u41rg2ppkafcv1f94q3adhces3hcfhhks8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:21:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <pjhmg25p98v6ugf24i35ogm69b6gg4j2n3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:32:02 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Whereas Benny lost his to Seance.
LOL! While using the Holy Ouija board.
And being serviced by his sisters.
Sister Mary Ridingcrop is under the table while Benny is being 'moved by
the spirits'.
and injecting her with the holy spirit.
A second 'baptism'.
Could be a facial....
An anointing with the holy jism.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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28 Sep 2006 11:39:39 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:57:47 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1m49h29r7pg8bfbsk31705vi9qu9hbf29p@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:30:28 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <fg24h218uhud6c3hu4r4i50cqchejjn50a@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:46:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <u41rg2ppkafcv1f94q3adhces3hcfhhks8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:21:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <pjhmg25p98v6ugf24i35ogm69b6gg4j2n3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:32:02 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Whereas Benny lost his to Seance.
LOL! While using the Holy Ouija board.
And being serviced by his sisters.
Sister Mary Ridingcrop is under the table while Benny is being 'moved by
the spirits'.
and injecting her with the holy spirit.
A second 'baptism'.
Could be a facial....
An anointing with the holy jism.
The holy spurt.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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23 Sep 2006 01:19:01 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:50:06 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <1m49h29r7pg8bfbsk31705vi9qu9hbf29p@4ax.com>
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:30:28 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <fg24h218uhud6c3hu4r4i50cqchejjn50a@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:46:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <u41rg2ppkafcv1f94q3adhces3hcfhhks8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:21:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <pjhmg25p98v6ugf24i35ogm69b6gg4j2n3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:32:02 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Whereas Benny lost his to Seance.
LOL! While using the Holy Ouija board.
And being serviced by his sisters.
Sister Mary Ridingcrop is under the table while Benny is being 'moved by
the spirits'.
and injecting her with the holy spirit.
A second 'baptism'.
Could be a facial....
Benny is having Nun of that!
It is "strictly" a choirboy cosmetic.
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| User: "stoney" |
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28 Sep 2006 11:40:36 AM |
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:49:01 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:50:06 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <1m49h29r7pg8bfbsk31705vi9qu9hbf29p@4ax.com>
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:30:28 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <fg24h218uhud6c3hu4r4i50cqchejjn50a@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:46:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <u41rg2ppkafcv1f94q3adhces3hcfhhks8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:21:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <pjhmg25p98v6ugf24i35ogm69b6gg4j2n3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:32:02 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Whereas Benny lost his to Seance.
LOL! While using the Holy Ouija board.
And being serviced by his sisters.
Sister Mary Ridingcrop is under the table while Benny is being 'moved by
the spirits'.
and injecting her with the holy spirit.
A second 'baptism'.
Could be a facial....
Benny is having Nun of that!
It is "strictly" a choirboy cosmetic.
Unless they rip the boy a new arsehole.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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11 Sep 2006 01:55:16 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet johac
(jhachmann@sbcglobal.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Western societies are losing their souls to scientific rationality and
frightening believers in the developing world who still fear God, Pope
Benedict told an open-air mass in Germany on Sunday.
Benedict, on the second day of a visit to his native Bavaria, said that
spreading the word of Jesus Christ was more important than all the
emergency and development aid that rich churches like those in Germany
gave to poor countries.
This is funny. If there is anyone in the internet engorged world who
hasn't heard of Jesus Christ, and made up his or her mind about
Christianity by now, you won't find them in Germany, or the "Western
World". He's wasting his time.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man
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12 Sep 2006 12:45:05 AM |
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In article <Xns983AF3529CA5Dvicman@216.196.97.136>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet johac
(jhachmann@sbcglobal.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Western societies are losing their souls to scientific rationality and
frightening believers in the developing world who still fear God, Pope
Benedict told an open-air mass in Germany on Sunday.
Benedict, on the second day of a visit to his native Bavaria, said that
spreading the word of Jesus Christ was more important than all the
emergency and development aid that rich churches like those in Germany
gave to poor countries.
This is funny. If there is anyone in the internet engorged world who
hasn't heard of Jesus Christ, and made up his or her mind about
Christianity by now, you won't find them in Germany, or the "Western
World". He's wasting his time.
True. Why doesn't he go to remote African villages or other poor places
and see if he gets any better reception.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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11 Sep 2006 04:04:45 AM |
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Re-take:
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Faith fading in THE EDUCATED world, alive AMONG THE POOR AND IGNORANT.
There. I've fixed it.
M.
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12 Sep 2006 12:10:13 AM |
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In article <NE9Ng.12795$0i4.2041@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>,
"Mark D J." <Mark D J.@home.com> wrote:
Re-take:
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Faith fading in THE EDUCATED world, alive AMONG THE POOR AND IGNORANT.
There. I've fixed it.
M.
Yes, that is better.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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11 Sep 2006 08:07:08 AM |
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johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-8850CF.23320210092006@news.giganews.com:
Maybe he believes he's channeling Pius IX.
---
Faith fading in rich world, alive in poor: Pope
By Philip Pullella and Madeline ChambersSun Sep 10, 12:56 PM ET
Western societies are losing their souls to scientific rationality
and frightening believers in the developing world who still fear
God, Pope Benedict told an open-air mass in Germany on Sunday.
Benedict, on the second day of a visit to his native Bavaria, said
that spreading the word of Jesus Christ was more important than all
the emergency and development aid that rich churches like those in
Germany gave to poor countries.
He also stressed the role of faith in fighting AIDS "by
realistically facing its deeper causes," indirectly confirming the
Church view that pre-marital abstinence and fidelity in marriage are
the way to combat sexually transmitted diseases.
About 250,000 faithful, many of them families with children,
gathered at the fairground for the mass. "I've been here since five
o'clock in the morning," said Kerstin Gessert, 32, from Karlsruhe.
"I think it's important that he has come."
Wearing green and white vestments, the Pope addressed the crowd from
a platform covered by a white canopy.
Some in the crowd wore traditional Bavarian folk dress and sat down
to picnics of sausages and bread after the service.
"Social issues and the Gospel are inseparable," said the Pope. "When
we bring people only knowledge, ability, technical competence and
tools, we bring them too little," he said, hammering away at his
central concern that secularisation and materialism have replaced
faith in Western thinking.
Later, Benedict, 79, who has hinted the visit to his home region
could be his last, led vespers at the Cathedral Of Our Lady in
Munich where he served as archbishop from 1977 to 1982.
The twin green onion domes make the cathedral one of the city's
best-known landmarks. Completed in 1488, it is Bavaria's largest
church and has served as the cathedral for the archbishops of Munich
and Freising since 1821.
Inside, the Pope, clad in glittering vestments of green, silver and
gold, smiled broadly as young girls in first communion dresses and
with flowers in their hair greeted him.
On his six-day trip, Benedict will also visit his birthplace at
Marktl am Inn, the shrine to the Virgin Mary at Altoetting and
Regensburg, where he taught theology from 1969 to 1977.
Police said the bright yellow house where the Pope was born in
Marktl am Inn and which he was due to visit on Monday, was splashed
overnight with two bags of blue paint by vandals.
"CONTEMPT FOR GOD"
At the morning mass Benedict said that Western societies had become
"hard of hearing" about God, saying: "There are too many other
frequencies in our ears. What is said about God strikes us as
pre-scientific, no longer suited for our age."
He contrasted this to a faith he still found in developing
countries, where 70 percent of the world's Catholics now live.
"People in Africa and Asia admire our scientific and technical
prowess, but at the same time they are frightened by a form of
rationality which totally excludes God from man's vision, as if this
were the highest form of reason," he said.
They sensed a "contempt for God" in Western societies and "a
cynicism that considers mockery of the sacred to be an exercise of
freedom and hold up utility as the supreme moral criterion for the
future of scientific research," he said.
He singled out the German Catholic church, one of the world's
richest, as one that generously gives emergency and development aid
but plays down the spreading of the Gospel. "Evangelisation itself
should be foremost," he declared.
---
http://tinyurl.com/zh3dk
Also see Pius IX "Syllabus of errors":
http://www.reformation.org/syllabus_of_pius.html
Sounds like another example of when faced with eviudence that directly
contradicts your beliefs, you Stay The Course. It ain't workin' for
Fearless Leader, so don't get yer hope up Benny.
--
The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are being lost. The America of
our founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
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