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Religions > Atheism |
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"johac" |
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11 Apr 2007 12:13:09 PM |
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Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
It's official. Benny is an IDiot. The article claims he's not for
'Intelligent Design" but then quotes him giving some of the same stupid
ID arguments we see here every day. He is just so wrong on so many
counts it's hard to know where to begin.
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Pope says science too narrow to explain creation
By Tom Heneghan, Religion EditorWed Apr 11, 6:06 AM ET
Pope Benedict, elaborating his views on evolution for the first time as
Pontiff, says science has narrowed the way life's origins are understood
and Christians should take a broader approach to the question.
The Pope also says the Darwinist theory of evolution is not completely
provable because mutations over hundreds of thousands of years cannot be
reproduced in a laboratory.
But Benedict, whose remarks were published on Wednesday in Germany in
the book "Schoepfung und Evolution" (Creation and Evolution), praised
scientific progress and did not endorse creationist or "intelligent
design" views about life's origins.
Those arguments, proposed mostly by conservative Protestants and derided
by scientists, have stoked recurring battles over the teaching of
evolution in the United States. Some European Christians and Turkish
Muslims have recently echoed these views.
"Science has opened up large dimensions of reason ... and thus brought
us new insights," Benedict, a former theology professor, said at the
closed-door seminar with his former doctoral students last September
that the book documents.
"But in the joy at the extent of its discoveries, it tends to take away
from us dimensions of reason that we still need. Its results lead to
questions that go beyond its methodical canon and cannot be answered
within it," he said.
"The issue is reclaiming a dimension of reason we have lost," he said,
adding that the evolution debate was actually about "the great
fundamental questions of philosophy - where man and the world came from
and where they are going."
NOT BY FAITH ALONE
Speculation about Benedict's views on evolution have been rife ever
since a former student and close advisor, Vienna Cardinal Christoph
Schoenborn, published an article in 2005 that seemed to align the Church
with the "intelligent design" view.
"Intelligent design" (ID) argues that some forms of life are too complex
to have evolved randomly, as Charles Darwin proposed in his 1859 book
"The Origin of Species." It says a higher intelligence must have done
this but does not name it as God.
Scientists denounce this as a disguised form of creationism, the view
that God created the world just as the Bible says. U.S. courts have
ruled both creationism and ID are religious views that cannot be taught
in public school science classes there.
In the book, Benedict defended what is known as "theistic evolution,"
the view held by Roman Catholic, Orthodox and mainline Protestant
churches that God created life through evolution and religion and
science need not clash over this.
"I would not depend on faith alone to explain the whole picture," he
remarked during the discussion held at the papal summer palace in Castel
Gandolfo outside Rome.
He also denied using a "God-of-the-gaps" argument that sees divine
intervention whenever science cannot explain something.
"It's not as if I wanted to stuff the dear God into these gaps - he is
too great to fit into such gaps," he said in the book that publisher
Sankt Ulrich Verlag in Augsburg said would later be translated into
other languages.
AGAINST ATHEISM
Schoenborn, who published his own book on evolution last month, has said
he and the German-born Pontiff addressed these issues now because many
scientists use Darwin's theory to argue the random nature of evolution
negated any role for God.
That is a philosophical or ideological conclusion not supported by
facts, they say, because science cannot prove who or what originally
created the universe and life in it.
"Both popular and scientific texts about evolution often say that
'nature' or 'evolution' has done this or that," Benedict said in the
book which included lectures from theologian Schoenborn, two
philosophers and a chemistry professor.
"Just who is this 'nature' or 'evolution' as (an active) subject? It
doesn't exist at all!" the Pope said.
Benedict argued that evolution had a rationality that the theory of
purely random selection could not explain.
"The process itself is rational despite the mistakes and confusion as it
goes through a narrow corridor choosing a few positive mutations and
using low probability," he said.
"This ... inevitably leads to a question that goes beyond science ...
where did this rationality come from?" he asked. Answering his own
question, he said it came from the "creative reason" of God.
---
http://tinyurl.com/2ogvoj
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
11 Apr 2007 03:49:24 PM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-507C83.10130911042007@news.giganews.com...
It's official. Benny is an IDiot. The article claims he's not for
'Intelligent Design" but then quotes him giving some of the same stupid
ID arguments we see here every day. He is just so wrong on so many
counts it's hard to know where to begin.
---
Pope says science too narrow to explain creation
By Tom Heneghan, Religion EditorWed Apr 11, 6:06 AM ET
Pope Benedict, elaborating his views on evolution for the first time as
Pontiff, says science has narrowed the way life's origins are understood
and Christians should take a broader approach to the question.
The Pope also says the Darwinist theory of evolution is not completely
provable because mutations over hundreds of thousands of years cannot be
reproduced in a laboratory.
Neither can the Jesus tale!
But Benedict, whose remarks were published on Wednesday in Germany in
the book "Schoepfung und Evolution" (Creation and Evolution), praised
scientific progress and did not endorse creationist or "intelligent
design" views about life's origins.
Those arguments, proposed mostly by conservative Protestants and derided
by scientists, have stoked recurring battles over the teaching of
evolution in the United States. Some European Christians and Turkish
Muslims have recently echoed these views.
"Science has opened up large dimensions of reason ... and thus brought
us new insights," Benedict, a former theology professor, said at the
closed-door seminar with his former doctoral students last September
that the book documents.
"But in the joy at the extent of its discoveries, it tends to take away
from us dimensions of reason that we still need. Its results lead to
questions that go beyond its methodical canon and cannot be answered
within it," he said.
"The issue is reclaiming a dimension of reason we have lost," he said,
adding that the evolution debate was actually about "the great
fundamental questions of philosophy - where man and the world came from
and where they are going."
NOT BY FAITH ALONE
Speculation about Benedict's views on evolution have been rife ever
since a former student and close advisor, Vienna Cardinal Christoph
Schoenborn, published an article in 2005 that seemed to align the Church
with the "intelligent design" view.
"Intelligent design" (ID) argues that some forms of life are too complex
to have evolved randomly, as Charles Darwin proposed in his 1859 book
"The Origin of Species." It says a higher intelligence must have done
this but does not name it as God.
Scientists denounce this as a disguised form of creationism, the view
that God created the world just as the Bible says. U.S. courts have
ruled both creationism and ID are religious views that cannot be taught
in public school science classes there.
In the book, Benedict defended what is known as "theistic evolution,"
the view held by Roman Catholic, Orthodox and mainline Protestant
churches that God created life through evolution and religion and
science need not clash over this.
"I would not depend on faith alone to explain the whole picture," he
remarked during the discussion held at the papal summer palace in Castel
Gandolfo outside Rome.
He also denied using a "God-of-the-gaps" argument that sees divine
intervention whenever science cannot explain something.
"It's not as if I wanted to stuff the dear God into these gaps - he is
too great to fit into such gaps," he said in the book that publisher
Sankt Ulrich Verlag in Augsburg said would later be translated into
other languages.
AGAINST ATHEISM
Schoenborn, who published his own book on evolution last month, has said
he and the German-born Pontiff addressed these issues now because many
scientists use Darwin's theory to argue the random nature of evolution
negated any role for God.
That is a philosophical or ideological conclusion not supported by
facts, they say, because science cannot prove who or what originally
created the universe and life in it.
"Both popular and scientific texts about evolution often say that
'nature' or 'evolution' has done this or that," Benedict said in the
book which included lectures from theologian Schoenborn, two
philosophers and a chemistry professor.
"Just who is this 'nature' or 'evolution' as (an active) subject? It
doesn't exist at all!" the Pope said.
Benedict argued that evolution had a rationality that the theory of
purely random selection could not explain.
"The process itself is rational despite the mistakes and confusion as it
goes through a narrow corridor choosing a few positive mutations and
using low probability," he said.
"This ... inevitably leads to a question that goes beyond science ...
where did this rationality come from?" he asked. Answering his own
question, he said it came from the "creative reason" of God.
---
http://tinyurl.com/2ogvoj
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
11 Apr 2007 05:56:25 PM |
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In article <6RbTh.1665$254.1050@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-507C83.10130911042007@news.giganews.com...
It's official. Benny is an IDiot. The article claims he's not for
'Intelligent Design" but then quotes him giving some of the same stupid
ID arguments we see here every day. He is just so wrong on so many
counts it's hard to know where to begin.
---
Pope says science too narrow to explain creation
By Tom Heneghan, Religion EditorWed Apr 11, 6:06 AM ET
Pope Benedict, elaborating his views on evolution for the first time as
Pontiff, says science has narrowed the way life's origins are understood
and Christians should take a broader approach to the question.
The Pope also says the Darwinist theory of evolution is not completely
provable because mutations over hundreds of thousands of years cannot be
reproduced in a laboratory.
Neither can the Jesus tale!
Of course not. All they can do is to try to attack science, but never
present any evidence to back up their own arguments.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
11 Apr 2007 05:37:39 PM |
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He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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11 Apr 2007 09:11:15 PM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
11 Apr 2007 11:54:30 PM |
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In article <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
LOL!!!
Smiler,
The godless one
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
12 Apr 2007 01:35:24 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
--
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
12 Apr 2007 05:55:56 PM |
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In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
13 Apr 2007 04:05:44 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
13 Apr 2007 05:20:34 PM |
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In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a pig.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
13 Apr 2007 07:35:15 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
--
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
14 Apr 2007 12:39:17 AM |
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In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
14 Apr 2007 05:57:59 PM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of this
thread?
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
15 Apr 2007 05:42:55 PM |
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In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now that
you mention it...
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
15 Apr 2007 06:21:39 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
--
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15 Apr 2007 08:13:59 PM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler"
<Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a
pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
He might, therefore, enjoy the 'company' of Bubba.
A more appropriate punishment would be to lock him in the same cell as
Puke....for eternity.
Smiler,
The godless one
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15 Apr 2007 09:29:54 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:13:59 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler"
<Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a
pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
He might, therefore, enjoy the 'company' of Bubba.
A more appropriate punishment would be to lock him in the same cell as
Puke....for eternity.
Punishment for whom?
Duke, or the Pope?
--
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
16 Apr 2007 12:23:26 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:41:54 -0500, Michael Gray wrote
(in article <rrn523h4egss9ct3b222fmikpmddufq3hr@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:13:59 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:nrc5231rkoevv43bknmdkh13pjb9b5ui8u@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler"
<Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a
pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
He might, therefore, enjoy the 'company' of Bubba.
A more appropriate punishment would be to lock him in the same cell as
Puke....for eternity.
Punishment for whom?
Duke, or the Pope?
Hopefully both.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³(B)iological evolution is a team sport.³-Louis Friend
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16 Apr 2007 05:31:42 PM |
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In article <0001HW.C248727E00072E8CF0284530@news.central.cox.net>,
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:41:54 -0500, Michael Gray wrote
(in article <rrn523h4egss9ct3b222fmikpmddufq3hr@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:13:59 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <r5AUh.541$G64.189@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:nrc5231rkoevv43bknmdkh13pjb9b5ui8u@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler"
<Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a
pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
He might, therefore, enjoy the 'company' of Bubba.
A more appropriate punishment would be to lock him in the same cell as
Puke....for eternity.
Punishment for whom?
Duke, or the Pope?
Hopefully both.
I think you guys are describing Hell.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
16 Apr 2007 06:37:11 PM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-A51A4B.15314216042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <0001HW.C248727E00072E8CF0284530@news.central.cox.net>,
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:41:54 -0500, Michael Gray wrote
(in article <rrn523h4egss9ct3b222fmikpmddufq3hr@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:13:59 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <r5AUh.541$G64.189@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:nrc5231rkoevv43bknmdkh13pjb9b5ui8u@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler"
<Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like
a
pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of
this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now
that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
He might, therefore, enjoy the 'company' of Bubba.
A more appropriate punishment would be to lock him in the same cell as
Puke....for eternity.
Punishment for whom?
Duke, or the Pope?
Hopefully both.
I think you guys are describing Hell.
My guess too.
But after serving his sentence in the same cell as Duke, we'd probably have
the first openly atheist Pope when he was released.
Assuming, of course, he hadn't committed suicide before then.
Smiler,
The godless one
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16 Apr 2007 11:28:32 PM |
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In article <HMTUh.1553$J64.38@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-A51A4B.15314216042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <0001HW.C248727E00072E8CF0284530@news.central.cox.net>,
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:41:54 -0500, Michael Gray wrote
(in article <rrn523h4egss9ct3b222fmikpmddufq3hr@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:13:59 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <r5AUh.541$G64.189@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:nrc5231rkoevv43bknmdkh13pjb9b5ui8u@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler"
<Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like
a
pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of
this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now
that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
He might, therefore, enjoy the 'company' of Bubba.
A more appropriate punishment would be to lock him in the same cell as
Puke....for eternity.
Punishment for whom?
Duke, or the Pope?
Hopefully both.
I think you guys are describing Hell.
My guess too.
But after serving his sentence in the same cell as Duke, we'd probably have
the first openly atheist Pope when he was released.
Assuming, of course, he hadn't committed suicide before then.
I'd give even odds.
Smiler,
The godless one
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| Title: Re: Pope Benny comes out against evolution. |
16 Apr 2007 06:17:28 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:31:42 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-A51A4B.15314216042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <0001HW.C248727E00072E8CF0284530@news.central.cox.net>,
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:41:54 -0500, Michael Gray wrote
(in article <rrn523h4egss9ct3b222fmikpmddufq3hr@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:13:59 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <r5AUh.541$G64.189@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:nrc5231rkoevv43bknmdkh13pjb9b5ui8u@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler"
<Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a
pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
He might, therefore, enjoy the 'company' of Bubba.
A more appropriate punishment would be to lock him in the same cell as
Puke....for eternity.
Punishment for whom?
Duke, or the Pope?
Hopefully both.
I think you guys are describing Hell.
That's the basement in "Heaven" nightclub!
--
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16 Apr 2007 11:29:57 PM |
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In article <ov08239niciamr71ftf116vqhsk4qpqhi5@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:31:42 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-A51A4B.15314216042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <0001HW.C248727E00072E8CF0284530@news.central.cox.net>,
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:41:54 -0500, Michael Gray wrote
(in article <rrn523h4egss9ct3b222fmikpmddufq3hr@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:13:59 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <r5AUh.541$G64.189@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:nrc5231rkoevv43bknmdkh13pjb9b5ui8u@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler"
<Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like
a
pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of
this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now
that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
He might, therefore, enjoy the 'company' of Bubba.
A more appropriate punishment would be to lock him in the same cell as
Puke....for eternity.
Punishment for whom?
Duke, or the Pope?
Hopefully both.
I think you guys are describing Hell.
That's the basement in "Heaven" nightclub!
then those two belong in the sub sub sub basement.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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17 Apr 2007 01:08:30 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:29:57 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-DE3AB1.21295716042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <ov08239niciamr71ftf116vqhsk4qpqhi5@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:31:42 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-A51A4B.15314216042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <0001HW.C248727E00072E8CF0284530@news.central.cox.net>,
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:41:54 -0500, Michael Gray wrote
(in article <rrn523h4egss9ct3b222fmikpmddufq3hr@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:13:59 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <r5AUh.541$G64.189@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:nrc5231rkoevv43bknmdkh13pjb9b5ui8u@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler"
<Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like
a
pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of
this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now
that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
He might, therefore, enjoy the 'company' of Bubba.
A more appropriate punishment would be to lock him in the same cell as
Puke....for eternity.
Punishment for whom?
Duke, or the Pope?
Hopefully both.
I think you guys are describing Hell.
That's the basement in "Heaven" nightclub!
then those two belong in the sub sub sub basement.
That's the sewer, and yes, you are correct.
--
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17 Apr 2007 05:46:14 PM |
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In article <62p8239858qn86bkpj4e0k905lvmnskeg4@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:29:57 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-DE3AB1.21295716042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <ov08239niciamr71ftf116vqhsk4qpqhi5@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:31:42 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-A51A4B.15314216042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <0001HW.C248727E00072E8CF0284530@news.central.cox.net>,
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:41:54 -0500, Michael Gray wrote
(in article <rrn523h4egss9ct3b222fmikpmddufq3hr@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:13:59 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <r5AUh.541$G64.189@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:nrc5231rkoevv43bknmdkh13pjb9b5ui8u@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler"
<Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it
had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal
like
a
pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line
of
this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats.
Now
that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
He might, therefore, enjoy the 'company' of Bubba.
A more appropriate punishment would be to lock him in the same cell
as
Puke....for eternity.
Punishment for whom?
Duke, or the Pope?
Hopefully both.
I think you guys are describing Hell.
That's the basement in "Heaven" nightclub!
then those two belong in the sub sub sub basement.
That's the sewer, and yes, you are correct.
LOL!
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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16 Apr 2007 05:34:44 PM |
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In article <nrc5231rkoevv43bknmdkh13pjb9b5ui8u@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:42:55 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-266C0D.15425515042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <X%cUh.963$J64.513@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9673FC.22391713042007@news.giganews.com...
In article <gd80231klk4k9gn7ifj376p15j6rcguts2@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:20:34 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-720DFA.15203413042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <vthu135sciv7rumijhjfhvvfn6er8ho289@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:55:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-6C79BC.15555612042007@news.giganews.com>
In article <gokr1357cs02b9he52fhhu4odiomuvihn1@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:11:15 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7zgTh.700$5T2.144@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com...
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
They'll have to tie him down so he doesn't float away.
Pope on a rope.
What ever happenned to "Pope on a Rape (charge)"?
That would be more appropriate.
He might mistakenly choose to go to Sing-Sing, assuming it had
something to do with choirs.
--
LOL! His cellmate Bubba might make him 'sing', as in squeal like a pig.
Pope Porker Penitentiary.
He'll have to change his nom de guerre to Pope Porcus I
--
Will we have to remove the last two words from the Subject line of this
thread?
LOL! Hm. He does like to wear dresses and fancy shoes and hats. Now that
you mention it...
And carries a smoking handbag.
LOL!
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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11 Apr 2007 11:55:55 PM |
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In article <rooq1353v5me98cmrjrj4l2vubonbeabdd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
He'll be coming out against gravity, next.
Then in favor of the geocentric universe. Sorry, Galileo, you're back in
the doghouse again.
--
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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11 Apr 2007 06:08:20 PM |
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In article <jhachmann-507C83.10130911042007@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
It's official. Benny is an IDiot. The article claims he's not for
'Intelligent Design" but then quotes him giving some of the same stupid
ID arguments we see here every day. He is just so wrong on so many
counts it's hard to know where to begin.
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Pope says science too narrow to explain creation
Coming from a guy who wears embroidered dresses and studies only one
book in any detail, I'm not sure he's really the best fellow to ask
about it.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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11 Apr 2007 11:53:58 PM |
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In article <nemo0037-A36682.19082011042007@news.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-507C83.10130911042007@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
It's official. Benny is an IDiot. The article claims he's not for
'Intelligent Design" but then quotes him giving some of the same stupid
ID arguments we see here every day. He is just so wrong on so many
counts it's hard to know where to begin.
---
Pope says science too narrow to explain creation
Coming from a guy who wears embroidered dresses and studies only one
book in any detail, I'm not sure he's really the best fellow to ask
about it.
Indeed. However, not all of the RCC necessarily agrees with him. JP2,
for all his faults and there were many, seemed to endorse evolution. A
priest who was recently fired from his post by Benny for his support of
evolution, George Coyne, was extremely knowledgeable on the subject. I
watched him give a lecture on the origin of the universe, life, and
evolution on the local university TV station and was amazed. Except for
the existence of his god which he claimed had not much to do with the
above, there was virtually nothing else that I disagreed with.
The RCC needs more Coynes and fewer Bennys.
http://tinyurl.com/olwlh
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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12 Apr 2007 01:58:23 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-77ED4A.21535811042007@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Indeed. However, not all of the RCC necessarily agrees with him. JP2,
for all his faults and there were many, seemed to endorse evolution. A
priest who was recently fired from his post by Benny for his support of
evolution, George Coyne, was extremely knowledgeable on the subject. I
watched him give a lecture on the origin of the universe, life, and
evolution on the local university TV station and was amazed. Except for
the existence of his god which he claimed had not much to do with the
above, there was virtually nothing else that I disagreed with.
The RCC needs more Coynes and fewer Bennys.
I was just reading in "God: The Failed Hypothesis" (Oh how I wish it had
the subtitle "Well, that about wraps it up for God"...) that Pope Pius
XII once said, "Creation took place in time, therefore there is a
Creator, therefore God exists." Apparently, one of the Pope's scientists
priests (Georges-Henri Lamaitre) advised him against making that
statement "infallible." {;-)
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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12 Apr 2007 05:58:58 PM |
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In article <nemo0037-B6B0F3.02582112042007@news.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-77ED4A.21535811042007@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Indeed. However, not all of the RCC necessarily agrees with him. JP2,
for all his faults and there were many, seemed to endorse evolution. A
priest who was recently fired from his post by Benny for his support of
evolution, George Coyne, was extremely knowledgeable on the subject. I
watched him give a lecture on the origin of the universe, life, and
evolution on the local university TV station and was amazed. Except for
the existence of his god which he claimed had not much to do with the
above, there was virtually nothing else that I disagreed with.
The RCC needs more Coynes and fewer Bennys.
I was just reading in "God: The Failed Hypothesis" (Oh how I wish it had
the subtitle "Well, that about wraps it up for God"...) that Pope Pius
XII once said, "Creation took place in time, therefore there is a
Creator, therefore God exists." Apparently, one of the Pope's scientists
priests (Georges-Henri Lamaitre) advised him against making that
statement "infallible." {;-)
Good for Lamaitre. There are some fairly reasonable priests in the RCC.
why they still want to hang around with the rest of that crowd is beyond
me.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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