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"Richard Diamond" |
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01 Apr 2005 06:41:09 PM |
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Pope dies |
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Pope dies |
01 Apr 2005 06:55:07 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:41:09 -0600 in alt.atheism, Richard Diamond
(Richard Diamond <spindrift1969NOSPAM@yahoo.com>) said, directing the
reply to alt.atheism
A great man.
Certainly a great conservative who's probably stacked the deck
sufficiently to ensure that tradition continues, although he doesn't
appear to be dead at the time of writing.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Pope dies |
01 Apr 2005 07:46:36 PM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote
Certainly a great conservative who's probably
stacked the deck sufficiently to ensure that
tradition continues, although he doesn't
appear to be dead at the time of writing.
As far as "Great men" go, this Pope may have been
only so-so, but he was light years beyond many
national leaders in the United States or even the
U.K.
While other Popes & U.S./U.K. governments invested
their efforts into bringing despots to power, this Pope
was instrumental in bringing about actual reform. The
most obvious example would be Poland & the success
of Solidarity.
The lunatic right-wing likes to pretend it was Ronald
Reagan who finally won the cold war, driving the
Soviet Union to extinction with his obscene spending.
However, the true legacy of the Reagan years isn't the
collapse of the Iron curtain -- John Paul II ripped a
gaping hole in that with Poland -- it was the invention
of Osama Bin Laden, and his Al Qaida which sprung
from the Republican-financed training camps.
More recently, this Pope had sense enough to keep
the church out of internal U.S. politics, despite every
effort by the Republican party to get them involved.
This Pope went against George Bush. This Pope told
Bush "No."
U.S. internal politics wasn't the only area where the
Pope refused to do Bush's dirty work, the Pope also
voiced opposition to the war. The government of the
U.K. didn't do that. Heck, not even the government of
Spain or Italy could be bothered. Yes, Spain finally
did turn against the war, but long after Bush declared
his victory.
This Pope is ("was" isn't yet appropriate) old fashioned.
In fact, I'd say he most definitely is of the old school.
But, he most certainly has been the greatest of the "old"
Popes. He may be *Way* behind the times on social
issues, but he's actually slightly ahead of the curve for
100 years ago. I doubt the next Pope will be "Catching
up," but hopefully he'll be at least a few decades closer
to the present than this Pope. If he is, and he continues
the policies of this Pope -- investing more in political
reform than despots -- he'll leave the world a better
place.
It would be nice if the Pope could be a truly "Great"
leader. But, in the grand scheme of things, he doesn't
have to be. All he has to manage is to be better than
his contemporaries -- Reagan, Bush & Blair for
example -- and John Paul II has accomplished that
much... at least in certain key areas.
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| User: "CQMMAN" |
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| Title: Re: Pope dies |
01 Apr 2005 09:03:13 PM |
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JTEM <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote
Certainly a great conservative who's probably
Well said.
He was certainly one of the best Popes, which might not be saying much, but
like you said, despite his opinions on social issues, he did a lot more than
that for many countries.
Hope he goes peacefully.
--
Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first
prize in the lottery of life" -Cecil Rhodes
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the
great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones. Psalms 137:9.
Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces.
Malachi 2:3.
"He who rises up to kill us, we will pre-empt it and kill him first,"
- Ariel Sharon 8th May 2002
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| User: "Claytonus Vs. Godzilla" |
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| Title: Re: Pope dies |
01 Apr 2005 10:31:13 PM |
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"Richard Diamond" <spindrift1969NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hd5r41dbbcqv7bc9dnu6ic9sbi1sfqsro2@4ax.com...
A great man.
Nope...not yet....it's 4 hours later and he's still hanging on. It's
amazing what millions of dollars of medical care can achieve! How many poor
catholics can't afford to have the most basic medical care by the way?
Wonder how many of them could be treated with the money being wasted to keep
him alive for a few more days?
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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02 Apr 2005 05:40:24 AM |
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"Richard Diamond" <spindrift1969NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hd5r41dbbcqv7bc9dnu6ic9sbi1sfqsro2@4ax.com...
A great man.
Well, he's not dead yet. But his is damn close.
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| User: "Rally" |
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01 Apr 2005 07:41:57 PM |
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"Richard Diamond" <spindrift1969NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hd5r41dbbcqv7bc9dnu6ic9sbi1sfqsro2@4ax.com...
A great man.
Uh Oh....
Looks like he resurrected...
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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01 Apr 2005 07:19:51 PM |
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If it's true that he's died, may I be the first to congratulate Duke on
getting something right for once. It is Atheists Day after all!
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: Pope dies |
02 Apr 2005 01:58:31 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:41:09 -0600, Richard Diamond
<spindrift1969NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
A great man.
Yeah. The baby rapers are crying a river of tears. No one to
protect them.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 Apr 2005 04:49:56 AM |
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On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 01:58:31 GMT, Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:41:09 -0600, Richard Diamond
<spindrift1969NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
A great man.
Yeah. The baby rapers are crying a river of tears. No one to
protect them.
How many notches did the Pope have in his shriveled pecker?
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "stoney" |
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03 Apr 2005 08:20:13 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:41:09 -0600, Richard Diamond
<spindrift1969NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
A great man.
Yes, great was his evil, ignorance, inhumanity, tyranny, and hypocrisy
Another evil one will slide smoothly into the GodFather slot
and the organization will continue its missions of; paedophelia,
coercion, racketeering, slavery and terminal amorality.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "TCS" |
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01 Apr 2005 07:24:58 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:41:09 -0600, Richard Diamond <spindrift1969NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
A great man.
Only if by "great" you mean great at prologing human misery.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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02 Apr 2005 01:03:50 AM |
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Richard Diamond <spindrift1969NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:hd5r41dbbcqv7bc9dnu6ic9sbi1sfqsro2@4ax.com:
A great man.
Yes, his arrogance, ignorance and sheer hubris knew no bounds.
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Never use a weapon you don't like the taste of.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: Pope dies |
01 Apr 2005 06:44:26 PM |
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on 01 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, Richard Diamond dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:
A great man.
Yes, he was rather round, wasn't he?
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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