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"Christian Wardwell" |
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02 Apr 2005 08:15:12 PM |
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Pope Dies at Vatican |
Pope John Paul II has died, an official source at the Vatican has
confirmed.
The 84-year-old pontiff's poor health worsened further as he suffered
from failing heart and kidneys, and he died at 9.37pm Vatican time.
The Polish leader of the Roman Catholic Church for more than a quarter
of a century had shunned hospital to remain in his quarters.
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| User: "Clayton Bush City Limits" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Dies at Vatican |
02 Apr 2005 10:54:50 PM |
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"Christian Wardwell" <me3@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:m6vt41dgidr9g3fmb9269a7lvccj03b462@4ax.com...
Pope John Paul II has died, an official source at the Vatican has
confirmed.
The 84-year-old pontiff's poor health worsened further as he suffered
from failing heart and kidneys, and he died at 9.37pm Vatican time.
The Polish leader of the Roman Catholic Church for more than a quarter
of a century had shunned hospital to remain in his quarters.
I will say a couple of things...it's sad that any human being should go
through such suffering...and there is no doubt that he was the best pope
ever...which really isn't saying much!! I will admit that overall he did do
a lot of good during his papacy and he used his influence to generally
improve life for some people! This however does not excuse the terrible
things that his policies have wrought across the world. Millions of people
have suffered in countless ways because of his conservative, anti-reality
pronouncements!!! The worst thing about his death is that his successor
will inevitably be worse and lead to even more death and suffering!!!
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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02 Apr 2005 10:52:26 PM |
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"Clayton Bush City Limits" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in message
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"Christian Wardwell" <me3@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:m6vt41dgidr9g3fmb9269a7lvccj03b462@4ax.com...
Pope John Paul II has died, an official source at the Vatican has
confirmed.
The 84-year-old pontiff's poor health worsened further as he suffered
from failing heart and kidneys, and he died at 9.37pm Vatican time.
The Polish leader of the Roman Catholic Church for more than a quarter
of a century had shunned hospital to remain in his quarters.
I will say a couple of things...it's sad that any human being should go
through such suffering...and there is no doubt that he was the best pope
ever...which really isn't saying much!! I will admit that overall he did
do
a lot of good during his papacy and he used his influence to generally
improve life for some people! This however does not excuse the terrible
things that his policies have wrought across the world. Millions of
people
have suffered in countless ways because of his conservative, anti-reality
pronouncements!!! The worst thing about his death is that his successor
will inevitably be worse and lead to even more death and suffering!!!
I am not Catholic, but I don't see where the Pope ever caused any death or
suffering, quite the contrary.
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| User: "Peter" |
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03 Apr 2005 07:49:36 AM |
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"Sir Marksman" <kurt_lochner@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Clayton Bush City Limits" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
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"Christian Wardwell" <me3@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Pope John Paul II has died, an official source at the Vatican has
confirmed.
The 84-year-old pontiff's poor health worsened further as he suffered
from failing heart and kidneys, and he died at 9.37pm Vatican time.
The Polish leader of the Roman Catholic Church for more than a quarter
of a century had shunned hospital to remain in his quarters.
I will say a couple of things...it's sad that any human being should go
through such suffering...and there is no doubt that he was the best pope
ever...which really isn't saying much!! I will admit that overall he did
do
a lot of good during his papacy and he used his influence to generally
improve life for some people! This however does not excuse the terrible
things that his policies have wrought across the world. Millions of
people
have suffered in countless ways because of his conservative, anti-reality
pronouncements!!! The worst thing about his death is that his successor
will inevitably be worse and lead to even more death and suffering!!!
I am not Catholic, but I don't see where the Pope ever caused any death or
suffering, quite the contrary.
As far as I can see this is was a man who was once a radical and became a
reactionary; at the head of a massively rich organisation that purports to
identify with the poor, an organisation that
encourages homophobia while condoning paedophilia; that comforts and
sometimes supports terrorists, that has set back the emancipation of women
(or at least has tried to) and that condemns millions to poverty through its
attitude to birth control - and
that historically has looked the other way whilst genocide has been commited
under its nose.
Of course its sad when someone gets old and dies...... but why am I supposed
to be sad or sympathetic towards this representative of such an
organisation?
P
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Dies at Vatican -- GREAT MAN! |
02 Apr 2005 11:27:37 PM |
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Sir Marksman wrote:
"Clayton Bush City Limits" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in message
news:424f2197$0$5594$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Christian Wardwell" <me3@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:m6vt41dgidr9g3fmb9269a7lvccj03b462@4ax.com...
Pope John Paul II has died, an official source at the Vatican has
confirmed.
The 84-year-old pontiff's poor health worsened further as he suffered
from failing heart and kidneys, and he died at 9.37pm Vatican time.
The Polish leader of the Roman Catholic Church for more than a quarter
of a century had shunned hospital to remain in his quarters.
I will say a couple of things...it's sad that any human being should go
through such suffering...and there is no doubt that he was the best pope
ever...which really isn't saying much!! I will admit that overall he did
do
a lot of good during his papacy and he used his influence to generally
improve life for some people! This however does not excuse the terrible
things that his policies have wrought across the world. Millions of
people
have suffered in countless ways because of his conservative, anti-reality
pronouncements!!! The worst thing about his death is that his successor
will inevitably be worse and lead to even more death and suffering!!!
I am not Catholic, but I don't see where the Pope ever caused any death or
suffering, quite the contrary.
===>Nor am I, and I credit the RC Church for a lot of "death and suffering",
but this was a GREAT, HONEST AND SINCERE MAN, a GREAT LEADER,
a true MAN OF PEACE, a credit to Poland and E. Europe.
Definitely a tolerant, respectful, LOVING man, remedying much of the sectarian,
heretic-burning history of both Catholic and Protestant Christianity!
He even made the idea of Evolution acceptable to Christians! -- L.
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| User: "Maj Wood" |
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04 Apr 2005 08:21:41 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:424F2A69.87A05461@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Sir Marksman wrote:
"Clayton Bush City Limits" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
message
news:424f2197$0$5594$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Christian Wardwell" <me3@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:m6vt41dgidr9g3fmb9269a7lvccj03b462@4ax.com...
Pope John Paul II has died, an official source at the Vatican has
confirmed.
The 84-year-old pontiff's poor health worsened further as he suffered
from failing heart and kidneys, and he died at 9.37pm Vatican time.
The Polish leader of the Roman Catholic Church for more than a
quarter
of a century had shunned hospital to remain in his quarters.
I will say a couple of things...it's sad that any human being should
go
through such suffering...and there is no doubt that he was the best
pope
ever...which really isn't saying much!! I will admit that overall he
did
do
a lot of good during his papacy and he used his influence to generally
improve life for some people! This however does not excuse the
terrible
things that his policies have wrought across the world. Millions of
people
have suffered in countless ways because of his conservative,
anti-reality
pronouncements!!! The worst thing about his death is that his
successor
will inevitably be worse and lead to even more death and suffering!!!
I am not Catholic, but I don't see where the Pope ever caused any death
or
suffering, quite the contrary.
===>Nor am I, and I credit the RC Church for a lot of "death and
suffering",
but this was a GREAT, HONEST AND SINCERE MAN, a GREAT LEADER,
a true MAN OF PEACE, a credit to Poland and E. Europe.
Definitely a tolerant, respectful, LOVING man, remedying much of the
sectarian,
heretic-burning history of both Catholic and Protestant Christianity!
He even made the idea of Evolution acceptable to Christians! -- L.
*****, he was a buttfucker. The reason he was all bent over was from
sucking off the alter boys.
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| User: "Clayton Bush City Limits" |
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03 Apr 2005 01:17:25 AM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:424F2A69.87A05461@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Sir Marksman wrote:
"Clayton Bush City Limits" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
message
news:424f2197$0$5594$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Christian Wardwell" <me3@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:m6vt41dgidr9g3fmb9269a7lvccj03b462@4ax.com...
Pope John Paul II has died, an official source at the Vatican has
confirmed.
The 84-year-old pontiff's poor health worsened further as he suffered
from failing heart and kidneys, and he died at 9.37pm Vatican time.
The Polish leader of the Roman Catholic Church for more than a
quarter
of a century had shunned hospital to remain in his quarters.
I will say a couple of things...it's sad that any human being should
go
through such suffering...and there is no doubt that he was the best
pope
ever...which really isn't saying much!! I will admit that overall he
did
do
a lot of good during his papacy and he used his influence to generally
improve life for some people! This however does not excuse the
terrible
things that his policies have wrought across the world. Millions of
people
have suffered in countless ways because of his conservative,
anti-reality
pronouncements!!! The worst thing about his death is that his
successor
will inevitably be worse and lead to even more death and suffering!!!
I am not Catholic, but I don't see where the Pope ever caused any death
or
suffering, quite the contrary.
===>Nor am I, and I credit the RC Church for a lot of "death and
suffering",
but this was a GREAT, HONEST AND SINCERE MAN, a GREAT LEADER,
a true MAN OF PEACE, a credit to Poland and E. Europe.
Definitely a tolerant, respectful, LOVING man, remedying much of the
sectarian,
heretic-burning history of both Catholic and Protestant Christianity!
He even made the idea of Evolution acceptable to Christians! -- L.
He advocated discrimination and suppression of women, turning them into baby
making machines, increasing poverty and starvation and over population in
Catholic countries like Mexico, advocated hatred and discrimination against
homosexuals, hated atheists, allowed millions of mainly African Catholics to
be infected with
HIV/AIDS by denying them using protection other than "Don't have sex!" and
ran the largest, most powerful, most profitable criminal organization on the
face of the Earth for almost 30 years, raking in trillions of dollars and
throwing the occasionally crumb to charity to keep up appearances and keep
the brainwashing machine well oiled!
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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02 Apr 2005 11:29:46 PM |
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Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Sir Marksman wrote:
"Clayton Bush City Limits" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
message news:424f2197$0$5594$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Christian Wardwell" <me3@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:m6vt41dgidr9g3fmb9269a7lvccj03b462@4ax.com...
Pope John Paul II has died, an official source at the Vatican has
confirmed.
The 84-year-old pontiff's poor health worsened further as he
suffered from failing heart and kidneys, and he died at 9.37pm
Vatican time.
The Polish leader of the Roman Catholic Church for more than a
quarter of a century had shunned hospital to remain in his
quarters.
I will say a couple of things...it's sad that any human being
should go through such suffering...and there is no doubt that he
was the best pope ever...which really isn't saying much!! I will
admit that overall he did do
a lot of good during his papacy and he used his influence to
generally improve life for some people! This however does not
excuse the terrible things that his policies have wrought across
the world. Millions of people
have suffered in countless ways because of his conservative,
anti-reality pronouncements!!! The worst thing about his death is
that his successor will inevitably be worse and lead to even more
death and suffering!!!
I am not Catholic, but I don't see where the Pope ever caused any
death or suffering, quite the contrary.
===>Nor am I, and I credit the RC Church for a lot of "death and
suffering", but this was a GREAT, HONEST AND SINCERE MAN, a GREAT
LEADER,
a true MAN OF PEACE, a credit to Poland and E. Europe.
Definitely a tolerant, respectful, LOVING man, remedying much of the
sectarian, heretic-burning history of both Catholic and Protestant
Christianity!
He even made the idea of Evolution acceptable to Christians! -- L.
Well, he did apologize for that whole Galileo thing...
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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02 Apr 2005 11:46:03 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Sir Marksman wrote:
"Clayton Bush City Limits" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
message news:424f2197$0$5594$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Christian Wardwell" <me3@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:m6vt41dgidr9g3fmb9269a7lvccj03b462@4ax.com...
Pope John Paul II has died, an official source at the Vatican has
confirmed.
The 84-year-old pontiff's poor health worsened further as he
suffered from failing heart and kidneys, and he died at 9.37pm
Vatican time.
The Polish leader of the Roman Catholic Church for more than a
quarter of a century had shunned hospital to remain in his
quarters.
I will say a couple of things...it's sad that any human being
should go through such suffering...and there is no doubt that he
was the best pope ever...which really isn't saying much!! I will
admit that overall he did do
a lot of good during his papacy and he used his influence to
generally improve life for some people! This however does not
excuse the terrible things that his policies have wrought across
the world. Millions of people
have suffered in countless ways because of his conservative,
anti-reality pronouncements!!! The worst thing about his death is
that his successor will inevitably be worse and lead to even more
death and suffering!!!
I am not Catholic, but I don't see where the Pope ever caused any
death or suffering, quite the contrary.
===>Nor am I, and I credit the RC Church for a lot of "death and
suffering", but this was a GREAT, HONEST AND SINCERE MAN, a GREAT
LEADER,
a true MAN OF PEACE, a credit to Poland and E. Europe.
Definitely a tolerant, respectful, LOVING man, remedying much of the
sectarian, heretic-burning history of both Catholic and Protestant
Christianity!
He even made the idea of Evolution acceptable to Christians! -- L.
Well, he did apologize for that whole Galileo thing...
===>And for the anti-Jew "thing", and prayed with Moslems, and
even met with Gorbachov and Jaruzelsky and encouraged Reagan
to work toward peace, and denounced war as a solution...
Oh, well....
As I said, he was a great man.
Too bad some Protestants and some
"Humanists" cannot see the good in anyone else. -- L.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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02 Apr 2005 11:49:27 PM |
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Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
Libertarius <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Sir Marksman wrote:
"Clayton Bush City Limits" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
message news:424f2197$0$5594$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Christian Wardwell" <me3@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:m6vt41dgidr9g3fmb9269a7lvccj03b462@4ax.com...
Pope John Paul II has died, an official source at the Vatican has
confirmed.
The 84-year-old pontiff's poor health worsened further as he
suffered from failing heart and kidneys, and he died at 9.37pm
Vatican time.
The Polish leader of the Roman Catholic Church for more than a
quarter of a century had shunned hospital to remain in his
quarters.
I will say a couple of things...it's sad that any human being
should go through such suffering...and there is no doubt that he
was the best pope ever...which really isn't saying much!! I will
admit that overall he did do
a lot of good during his papacy and he used his influence to
generally improve life for some people! This however does not
excuse the terrible things that his policies have wrought across
the world. Millions of people
have suffered in countless ways because of his conservative,
anti-reality pronouncements!!! The worst thing about his death is
that his successor will inevitably be worse and lead to even more
death and suffering!!!
I am not Catholic, but I don't see where the Pope ever caused any
death or suffering, quite the contrary.
===>Nor am I, and I credit the RC Church for a lot of "death and
suffering", but this was a GREAT, HONEST AND SINCERE MAN, a GREAT
LEADER,
a true MAN OF PEACE, a credit to Poland and E. Europe.
Definitely a tolerant, respectful, LOVING man, remedying much of the
sectarian, heretic-burning history of both Catholic and Protestant
Christianity!
He even made the idea of Evolution acceptable to Christians! -- L.
Well, he did apologize for that whole Galileo thing...
===>And for the anti-Jew "thing", and prayed with Moslems, and
even met with Gorbachov and Jaruzelsky and encouraged Reagan
to work toward peace, and denounced war as a solution...
Oh, well....
As I said, he was a great man.
Too bad some Protestants and some
"Humanists" cannot see the good in anyone else. -- L.
Yes, but did he give Reagan a brain?
I don't spend a great deal of time thinking about the Pope. He has done
some good in the world, but there are issues and areas where I don't agree
with him. I leave it to history to decide his greatness.
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "Yibbels" |
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02 Apr 2005 11:06:21 PM |
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it's sad that any human being should go through such suffering.
But he wasn't a human. He was the Popenator.
"You heretics must be terminated. And the homosexuals too."
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| User: "ward stewart" |
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03 Apr 2005 02:18:57 AM |
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On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 12:54:50 -1000, Clayton Bush City Limits wrote
(in article <424f2197$0$5594$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>):
"Christian Wardwell" <me3@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:m6vt41dgidr9g3fmb9269a7lvccj03b462@4ax.com...
Pope John Paul II has died, an official source at the Vatican has
confirmed.
The 84-year-old pontiff's poor health worsened further as he suffered
from failing heart and kidneys, and he died at 9.37pm Vatican time.
The Polish leader of the Roman Catholic Church for more than a quarter
of a century had shunned hospital to remain in his quarters.
I will say a couple of things ...it's sad that any human being should go
through such suffering...and there is no doubt that he was the best pope
ever...which really isn't saying much!! I will admit that overall he did do
a lot of good during his papacy and he used his influence to generally
improve life for some people! This however does not excuse the terrible
things that his policies have wrought across the world. Millions of people
have suffered in countless ways because of his conservative, anti-reality
pronouncements!!! The worst thing about his death is that his successor
will inevitably be worse and lead to even more death and suffering!!!
I have the gravest doubts that he "was the best pope ever.! Need we be
reminded of the blind eye turned to the rampant pedophilia -- then we have
the gruesome spectacle of the pressured advocacy for the canonization of
Pious the Ninth and the even more suspect, Pious the XII --
Pio Nono was deeply complicit in the kidnapping of a Jewish child who was
then baptized and declared to be a CHRISTIAN and by reason of this
christianity was prevented from being returned to his parents.
And then the truly infamous Pious XII was caught between decency and the
Nazis and chose the nazis -- when the Jews of Rome, HIS OWN PARISH, were
being deported he was silent, acquiescing in their slaughter. A decent man
would have gone down to the depot and insisted on being taken away with them
-- they WERE HIS FLOCK and he cheerfully abandoned them .
As for the next pope being "inevitably be worse and lead to even more death
and suffering!!! " Might we not hope for an Atavar of John the XXIII, a
seemingly civilized and amiable man.
ward
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| User: "John Rowland" |
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04 Apr 2005 01:42:28 AM |
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"ward stewart" <wardstewart@mac.com> wrote in message
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And then the truly infamous Pious XII was caught between
decency and the Nazis and chose the nazis -- when the
Jews of Rome, HIS OWN PARISH, were being deported
he was silent, acquiescing in their slaughter. A decent
man would have gone down to the depot and insisted
on being taken away with them -- they WERE HIS FLOCK
and he cheerfully abandoned them .
How would Jews be the Pope's flock?
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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04 Apr 2005 07:22:43 AM |
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"John Rowland" <johnr@journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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"ward stewart" <wardstewart@mac.com> wrote in message
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And then the truly infamous Pious XII was caught between
decency and the Nazis and chose the nazis -- when the
Jews of Rome, HIS OWN PARISH, were being deported
he was silent, acquiescing in their slaughter. A decent
man would have gone down to the depot and insisted
on being taken away with them -- they WERE HIS FLOCK
and he cheerfully abandoned them .
How would Jews be the Pope's flock?
If they were Italian, they were his people, no matter what
religion they were. He was a traitor to Italy for not trying
to protect them. And, if they lived in Vatican City, he was
even a bigger traitor. Or, maybe he was just a coward. Or,
maybe he actually supported the Nazis. I'd believe all three.
--
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That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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04 Apr 2005 01:51:24 AM |
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John Rowland <johnr@journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
"ward stewart" <wardstewart@mac.com> wrote in message
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And then the truly infamous Pious XII was caught between
decency and the Nazis and chose the nazis -- when the
Jews of Rome, HIS OWN PARISH, were being deported
he was silent, acquiescing in their slaughter. A decent
man would have gone down to the depot and insisted
on being taken away with them -- they WERE HIS FLOCK
and he cheerfully abandoned them .
How would Jews be the Pope's flock?
Peter said that the Jews in Rome should always be protected by the Catholic
Church. They have always been likened to the Pope's flock.
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "Robert Soles servant of Jesus" |
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04 Apr 2005 02:07:02 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
Peter said that the Jews in Rome should always
be protected by the Catholic Church. They have
always been likened to the Pope's flock.
St Peter had never heard of the Catholic Church.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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04 Apr 2005 02:16:45 AM |
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Robert Soles servant of Jesus <jesus@truth.fu.ck> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
Peter said that the Jews in Rome should always
be protected by the Catholic Church. They have
always been likened to the Pope's flock.
St Peter had never heard of the Catholic Church.
He was the first Pope, although it wasn't called the Catholic Church at the
time, that was what he requested of those that worshipped as he did.
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| User: "John Rowland" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Dies at Vatican |
04 Apr 2005 02:30:01 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote in message
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Robert Soles servant of Jesus <jesus@truth.fu.ck> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
Peter said that the Jews in Rome should always
be protected by the Catholic Church. They have
always been likened to the Pope's flock.
St Peter had never heard of the Catholic Church.
He was the first Pope, although it wasn't called
the Catholic Church at the time, that was what
he requested of those that worshipped as he did.
Why should subsequent Popes be bound by his words?
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| User: "Robert Soles servant of Jesus" |
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04 Apr 2005 05:29:49 PM |
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"John Rowland" <johnr@journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
He was the first Pope,
Why should subsequent Popes be bound by his words?
"I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My
church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. I will give you the
keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have
been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been
loosed in heaven."
Matthew 16:17-19
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| User: "John Rowland" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Dies at Vatican |
05 Apr 2005 01:02:43 AM |
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"Robert Soles servant of Jesus" <jesus@truth.fu.ck> wrote in message
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"John Rowland" <johnr@journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
He was the first Pope,
Why should subsequent Popes be bound by his words?
"I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock
I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not
overpower it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of
heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have
been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on
earth shall have been loosed in heaven."
Matthew 16:17-19
Thanks, that pretty much covers it!
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Dies at Vatican |
04 Apr 2005 10:38:32 AM |
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John Rowland <johnr@journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote in message
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Robert Soles servant of Jesus <jesus@truth.fu.ck> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
Peter said that the Jews in Rome should always
be protected by the Catholic Church. They have
always been likened to the Pope's flock.
St Peter had never heard of the Catholic Church.
He was the first Pope, although it wasn't called
the Catholic Church at the time, that was what
he requested of those that worshipped as he did.
Why should subsequent Popes be bound by his words?
You would have to ask the subsequent Popes why. They seem to, either by
choice or religion, be bound by a great many of his words.
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particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "Eric Jarvis" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Dies at Vatican |
04 Apr 2005 09:39:23 PM |
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John Rowland wrote:
Why should subsequent Popes be bound by his words?
Because if they use the silk ropes and bondage garb they are unlikely to
make it as far as pontiff if anyone finds out?
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| User: "ward stewart" |
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05 Apr 2005 03:58:53 AM |
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:30:01 -1000, John Rowland wrote
(in article <d2q8ue$3bh$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>):
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote in message
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Robert Soles servant of Jesus <jesus@truth.fu.ck> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
Peter said that the Jews in Rome should always
be protected by the Catholic Church. They have
always been likened to the Pope's flock.
St Peter had never heard of the Catholic Church.
He was the first Pope, although it wasn't called
the Catholic Church at the time, that was what
he requested of those that worshipped as he did.
Why should subsequent Popes be bound by his words?
They weren't -- and that vileness was what I was referencing -- no need to
look back all the way to the inquisitors, this last century does very nicely
all by itself!
ward
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| User: "Tom Moore ?" |
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04 Apr 2005 05:04:04 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
St Peter had never heard of the Catholic Church.
He was the first Pope,
I have a feeling some other denominations claim St Peter was, if not their
first leader, then certainly not the first leader of the Roman Catholic
Church.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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04 Apr 2005 09:23:22 PM |
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Tom Moore ? <tom.moore@turner.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
St Peter had never heard of the Catholic Church.
He was the first Pope,
I have a feeling some other denominations claim St Peter was, if not
their first leader, then certainly not the first leader of the Roman
Catholic Church.
The Roman Catholic Church has been claiming him to be the first Pope for
about 1600 years, more or less. You should take that argument up with them.
John Paul the second was the 264th Pope, I think.
From the Catholic Encyclopedia.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm
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particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
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| User: "Tom Moore ?" |
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09 Apr 2005 11:56:05 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
You should take that argument up with them.
John Paul the second was the 264th Pope, I think.
And another thing.
All 264 of them have been Catholics. When are they going to the
Protestants a chance, in these days of equality?
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| User: "Apostle Keith Williams" |
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09 Apr 2005 03:39:54 PM |
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The Catholic Church Organization was started with Christians as the One
Religion in the empire, in the 4th century AD, by God through Emperor
Galerius
who was Emperor 305-311 AD. Emperor after Emperor forged the One Religion
ahead. The Roman Senate made Christianity the official religion of the
Empire. No more persecuting of Christians was proclaimed by the emperor.
Roman armies killed idolaters and broke down their worship places. Both the
real Christians and the pseudo-Christians wore the name of Christian. But
in
325 AD, Emperor Constantine and philosopher bishops poisoned the
Organization with Gnostic language and issued an ambiguous Nicene Creed
which Christians who don't know better respect even today. God started
Christianity three hundred years before He started the One Catholic
Organization,
which He must destroy with the other kingdoms of the world because they are
NOW of the world.
"Tom Moore ?" <tom.moore@turner.com> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
You should take that argument up with them.
John Paul the second was the 264th Pope, I think.
And another thing.
All 264 of them have been Catholics. When are they going to the
Protestants a chance, in these days of equality?
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| User: "" |
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09 Apr 2005 10:03:08 PM |
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In article <Xns96338306E6F3Ctommoorespamserviceg@127.0.0.1>,
"Tom Moore ?" <tom.moore@turner.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
You should take that argument up with them.
John Paul the second was the 264th Pope, I think.
And another thing.
All 264 of them have been Catholics. When are they going to the
Protestants a chance, in these days of equality?
264???
There was no Catholics in a 1th century. No Protestants, either.
Go to school, please.
TA
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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09 Apr 2005 10:19:08 PM |
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wrote:
In article <Xns96338306E6F3Ctommoorespamserviceg@127.0.0.1>,
"Tom Moore ?" <tom.moore@turner.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
You should take that argument up with them.
John Paul the second was the 264th Pope, I think.
And another thing.
All 264 of them have been Catholics. When are they going to the
Protestants a chance, in these days of equality?
264???
There was no Catholics in a 1th century. No Protestants, either.
Go to school, please.
TA
I guess your argument is with these guys then.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm
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particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
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| User: "" |
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09 Apr 2005 10:43:13 PM |
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In article <wxY5e.4361$sp3.1311@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
I guess your argument is with these guys then.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm
Wrong again, my dear Watson...
Where do they say this the list of Catholic popes?
EOT
TA
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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09 Apr 2005 11:04:26 PM |
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wrote:
In article <wxY5e.4361$sp3.1311@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES_4> wrote:
I guess your argument is with these guys then.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm
Wrong again, my dear Watson...
Where do they say this the list of Catholic popes?
EOT
TA
LOL! Okay genius, what other kind of popes are there? Is there another
Vatican in Rome?
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particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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