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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 30 Dec 2006 02:51:55 PM
Object: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53563
Church has duty to speak out: 'Does man not concern us, too?'
In his most powerful statements to date on issues involving sexual
morality, Pope Benedict XVI said homosexuals end up destroying
themselves so the Church has a duty to speak out on moral issues that
affect the very spiritual and physical lives of man.
"In seeking to emancipate himself from his body (from the 'biological
sphere'), [man] ends up by destroying himself," the pope told
cardinals, archbishops, bishops and members of the Roman Curia last
week in a traditional meeting overlooked by most of the world's press.
"Against those who say that 'the Church should not involve herself in
these matters,' we can only respond: does man not concern us too? The
church and believers must raise their voices to defend man, the
creature who, in the inseparable unity of body and spirit, is the image
of God."
The pope also lamented low birth rates in Europe, saying couples no
longer seem to want children. This fact, he said, has "penetrated my
soul."
"Men and women today are unsure about the future," he explained. "This
fact, alongside the desire to have all of life to themselves, is
perhaps the most profound reason for which the risk of having children
appears to many as almost unbearable. ... If we do not relearn the
basic foundations of life - if we do not rediscover the certainty of
faith - it will also be ever more difficult for us to give others the
gift of life and the challenges of an unknown future."
The pope also referred to the controversy over same-sex marriage.
"At this point, I cannot fail to mention my concern over 'de facto'
couples," he said. "When new legislation is created that relativizes
marriage, the rejection of the definitive bond gains, so to speak,
juridical endorsement. Relativizing the difference between the sexes
.... tacitly confirms those bleak theories which seek to remove all
relevance from a human being's masculinity or femininity, as if this
were a purely biological matter."
.

User: "•R L Measures"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 03 Jan 2007 03:34:57 AM
In article <ysGmh.10114$X72.8204@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:

In News ypGmh.550109$5R2.506131@pd7urf3no,, banyan at banyan@shaw.ca, typed
this:

wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures)
wrote:

In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,
bibon@râlant.org wrote:

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,

(•R L Measures)
wrote:

• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that
its tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to
boys ... ...


IOW, homosexual priest.

• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to
post-pubescent males and some priests are sexually attracted to boys as
well as
girls --
Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.

.
Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?


Actually, he's correct technically. Prepubescent children are not,
properly speaking, either men or women. It is incorrect to consider
adults who are sexually attracted to children as either heterosexual
or homosexual. They are pedophiles, an entirely separate category
from heterosexuals or homosexuals.

The Catholic church would benefit greatly from allowing priests to
marry, since a normal urge that is repressed tends to manifest itself
in other, stranger and more twisted ways. Priests pretend to be above
normal human sexual urges, only to be hobbled by abnormal sexual
urges.


Addtionally, it would remove the "safe haven" that pedophiles have enjoyed
with the Catholic Church. Normally, society views men who don't at least
attempt to form a relationship as strange. Parents question it, friends
question it, etc... unless you're a priest. I personally think that is why
the priesthood has had such an issue.

• Agreed. However, after the altar-boy scandal hit the proverbial fan in
January, 2002., most parents seem to be aware that some priests are not to
be trusted with children of either sex, although little girls are probably
less tempting to the rascals among them than are little boys.
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 03 Jan 2007 12:06:10 PM
In News r-0301070134570001@192.168.1.102,, •R L Measures at
,
typed this:

In article <ysGmh.10114$X72.8204@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:

In News ypGmh.550109$5R2.506131@pd7urf3no,, banyan at
banyan@shaw.ca, typed this:

wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures)
wrote:

In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,
bibon@râlant.org wrote:

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,

(•R L Measures)
wrote:

• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that
its tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to
boys ... ...


IOW, homosexual priest.

• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to
post-pubescent males and some priests are sexually attracted to
boys as well as
girls --
Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.

.
Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?


Actually, he's correct technically. Prepubescent children are not,
properly speaking, either men or women. It is incorrect to consider
adults who are sexually attracted to children as either heterosexual
or homosexual. They are pedophiles, an entirely separate category
from heterosexuals or homosexuals.

The Catholic church would benefit greatly from allowing priests to
marry, since a normal urge that is repressed tends to manifest
itself in other, stranger and more twisted ways. Priests pretend
to be above normal human sexual urges, only to be hobbled by
abnormal sexual urges.


Addtionally, it would remove the "safe haven" that pedophiles have
enjoyed with the Catholic Church. Normally, society views men who
don't at least attempt to form a relationship as strange. Parents
question it, friends question it, etc... unless you're a priest. I
personally think that is why the priesthood has had such an issue.


• Agreed. However, after the altar-boy scandal hit the proverbial
fan in January, 2002., most parents seem to be aware that some
priests are not to be trusted with children of either sex, although
little girls are probably less tempting to the rascals among them
than are little boys.

True, I certainly wouldn't leave a child/adolescent alone with a priest.
.
User: "•R L Measures"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 03 Jan 2007 08:45:58 PM
In article <mgSmh.6876$yx6.2394@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:

In News r-0301070134570001@192.168.1.102,, •R L Measures at

,
typed this:

In article <ysGmh.10114$X72.8204@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:

In News ypGmh.550109$5R2.506131@pd7urf3no,, banyan at
banyan@shaw.ca, typed this:

wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures)
wrote:

In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,
bibon@râlant.org wrote:

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,

(•R L Measures)
wrote:

• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that
its tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to
boys ... ...


IOW, homosexual priest.

• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to
post-pubescent males and some priests are sexually attracted to
boys as well as
girls --
Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.

.
Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?


Actually, he's correct technically. Prepubescent children are not,
properly speaking, either men or women. It is incorrect to consider
adults who are sexually attracted to children as either heterosexual
or homosexual. They are pedophiles, an entirely separate category
from heterosexuals or homosexuals.

The Catholic church would benefit greatly from allowing priests to
marry, since a normal urge that is repressed tends to manifest
itself in other, stranger and more twisted ways. Priests pretend
to be above normal human sexual urges, only to be hobbled by
abnormal sexual urges.


Addtionally, it would remove the "safe haven" that pedophiles have
enjoyed with the Catholic Church. Normally, society views men who
don't at least attempt to form a relationship as strange. Parents
question it, friends question it, etc... unless you're a priest. I
personally think that is why the priesthood has had such an issue.


• Agreed. However, after the altar-boy scandal hit the proverbial
fan in January, 2002., most parents seem to be aware that some
priests are not to be trusted with children of either sex, although
little girls are probably less tempting to the rascals among them
than are little boys.


True, I certainly wouldn't leave a child/adolescent alone with a priest.

• Amen
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 03 Jan 2007 06:34:49 PM
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:34:57 -0800,
(•R L Measures) wrote:

In article <ysGmh.10114$X72.8204@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:

In News ypGmh.550109$5R2.506131@pd7urf3no,, banyan at banyan@shaw.ca, typed
this:

wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures)
wrote:

In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,
bibon@râlant.org wrote:

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,

(•R L Measures)
wrote:

• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that
its tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to
boys ... ...


IOW, homosexual priest.

• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to
post-pubescent males and some priests are sexually attracted to boys as
well as
girls --
Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.

.
Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?


Actually, he's correct technically. Prepubescent children are not,
properly speaking, either men or women. It is incorrect to consider
adults who are sexually attracted to children as either heterosexual
or homosexual. They are pedophiles, an entirely separate category
from heterosexuals or homosexuals.

The Catholic church would benefit greatly from allowing priests to
marry, since a normal urge that is repressed tends to manifest itself
in other, stranger and more twisted ways. Priests pretend to be above
normal human sexual urges, only to be hobbled by abnormal sexual
urges.


Addtionally, it would remove the "safe haven" that pedophiles have enjoyed
with the Catholic Church. Normally, society views men who don't at least
attempt to form a relationship as strange. Parents question it, friends
question it, etc... unless you're a priest. I personally think that is why
the priesthood has had such an issue.


• Agreed. However, after the altar-boy scandal hit the proverbial fan in
January, 2002., most parents seem to be aware that some priests are not to
be trusted with children of either sex, although little girls are probably
less tempting to the rascals among them than are little boys.

Are homosexual males ever attracted to females of any age?
Those priest that sexually assaulted boys and young men are
HOMOSEXSUALS. Heterosexual males do not suck the dicks
of males of any age.
.
User: "•R L Measures"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 03 Jan 2007 08:52:20 PM
In article <5uiop2141pvgurfgue140ivdbs1vicsbgg@4ax.com>, bibon@râlant.org wrote:

On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:34:57 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

In article <ysGmh.10114$X72.8204@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote:

In News ypGmh.550109$5R2.506131@pd7urf3no,, banyan at banyan@shaw.ca,

typed

this:

wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures)
wrote:

In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,
bibon@râlant.org wrote:

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,

(•R L Measures)
wrote:

• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that
its tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to
boys ... ...


IOW, homosexual priest.

• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to
post-pubescent males and some priests are sexually attracted to

boys as

well as
girls --
Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.

.
Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?


Actually, he's correct technically. Prepubescent children are not,
properly speaking, either men or women. It is incorrect to consider
adults who are sexually attracted to children as either heterosexual
or homosexual. They are pedophiles, an entirely separate category
from heterosexuals or homosexuals.

The Catholic church would benefit greatly from allowing priests to
marry, since a normal urge that is repressed tends to manifest itself
in other, stranger and more twisted ways. Priests pretend to be above
normal human sexual urges, only to be hobbled by abnormal sexual
urges.


Addtionally, it would remove the "safe haven" that pedophiles have enjoyed
with the Catholic Church. Normally, society views men who don't at least
attempt to form a relationship as strange. Parents question it, friends
question it, etc... unless you're a priest. I personally think that

is why

the priesthood has had such an issue.


• Agreed. However, after the altar-boy scandal hit the proverbial fan in
January, 2002., most parents seem to be aware that some priests are not to
be trusted with children of either sex, although little girls are probably
less tempting to the rascals among them than are little boys.


Are homosexual males ever attracted to females of any age?

• Apparently not, but bi-guys are.

Those priest that sexually assaulted boys and young men are
HOMOSEXSUALS.

• Agreed

Heterosexual males do not suck the dicks
of males of any age.

.



User: "•R L Measures"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 03 Jan 2007 03:19:06 AM
In article <ypGmh.550109$5R2.506131@pd7urf3no>, banyan <banyan@shaw.ca> wrote:

wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,

bibon@râlant.org wrote:


On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that its
tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to boys ... ...


IOW, homosexual priest.

• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to post-pubescent
males and some priests are sexually attracted to boys as well as girls --
Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.

.
Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?


Actually, he's correct technically. Prepubescent children are not,
properly speaking, either men or women. It is incorrect to consider
adults who are sexually attracted to children as either heterosexual or
homosexual. They are pedophiles, an entirely separate category from
heterosexuals or homosexuals.

The Catholic church would benefit greatly from allowing priests to
marry, since a normal urge that is repressed tends to manifest itself in
other, stranger and more twisted ways. Priests pretend to be above
normal human sexual urges, only to be hobbled by abnormal sexual urges.

• Indeed. Well put. Since only c. 10% of priests manage to remain
celibate, I see the vow as a dismal failure. Another problem is that the
vow of celibacy was seeming not God's idea, it was designed to enable the
Roman Church to rob the children of priests of their rightful
inheritance.
"The devil never harmed the church so much as when the church herself
adopted the vow of celibacy."
- - Peter Comestor (DOB ?, died c, AD1178 in Paris)
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 03 Jan 2007 06:32:04 PM
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:19:06 -0800,
(•R L Measures) wrote:

In article <ypGmh.550109$5R2.506131@pd7urf3no>, banyan <banyan@shaw.ca> wrote:

wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,

bibon@râlant.org wrote:


On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that its
tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to boys ... ...


IOW, homosexual priest.

• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to post-pubescent
males and some priests are sexually attracted to boys as well as girls --
Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.

.
Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?


Actually, he's correct technically. Prepubescent children are not,
properly speaking, either men or women. It is incorrect to consider
adults who are sexually attracted to children as either heterosexual or
homosexual. They are pedophiles, an entirely separate category from
heterosexuals or homosexuals.

The Catholic church would benefit greatly from allowing priests to
marry, since a normal urge that is repressed tends to manifest itself in
other, stranger and more twisted ways. Priests pretend to be above
normal human sexual urges, only to be hobbled by abnormal sexual urges.


• Indeed. Well put. Since only c. 10% of priests manage to remain
celibate, I see the vow as a dismal failure.

However, Keep them away from boys in the churches and young men in the
seminaries and they, because they are homosexuals have no choice but
to remain celibate or ***** one another.
.
User: "•R L Measures"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 03 Jan 2007 08:49:29 PM
In article <toiop25a9h0951n3l3oldlguduqh7d3gkg@4ax.com>, bibon@râlant.org wrote:

On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:19:06 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

In article <ypGmh.550109$5R2.506131@pd7urf3no>, banyan <banyan@shaw.ca>

wrote:


wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,

bibon@râlant.org wrote:


On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that its
tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to

boys ... ...


IOW, homosexual priest.

• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to post-pubescent
males and some priests are sexually attracted to boys as well as

girls --

Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.

.
Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?


Actually, he's correct technically. Prepubescent children are not,
properly speaking, either men or women. It is incorrect to consider
adults who are sexually attracted to children as either heterosexual or
homosexual. They are pedophiles, an entirely separate category from
heterosexuals or homosexuals.

The Catholic church would benefit greatly from allowing priests to
marry, since a normal urge that is repressed tends to manifest itself in
other, stranger and more twisted ways. Priests pretend to be above
normal human sexual urges, only to be hobbled by abnormal sexual urges.


• Indeed. Well put. Since only c. 10% of priests manage to remain
celibate, I see the vow as a dismal failure.


However, Keep them away from boys in the churches and young men in the
seminaries and they, because they are homosexuals have no choice but
to remain celibate or ***** one another.

• Is male/male arsenocoitus considered breaking the vow of celibacy ?
.



User: ""

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 03 Jan 2007 06:28:50 PM
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 04:36:46 GMT, banyan <banyan@shaw.ca> wrote:

wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>, bibon@râlant.org wrote:

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that its
tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to boys ... ...


IOW, homosexual priest.

• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to post-pubescent
males and some priests are sexually attracted to boys as well as girls --
Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.

.
Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?


Actually, he's correct technically. Prepubescent children are not,
properly speaking, either men or women. It is incorrect to consider
adults who are sexually attracted to children as either heterosexual or
homosexual. They are pedophiles, an entirely separate category from
heterosexuals or homosexuals.

The Catholic church would benefit greatly from allowing priests to
marry, since a normal urge that is repressed tends to manifest itself in
other, stranger and more twisted ways. Priests pretend to be above
normal human sexual urges, only to be hobbled by abnormal sexual urges.

Standard homosexual dogma. Why don't you queers get some new writers..
.

User: "•R L Measures"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 02 Jan 2007 12:50:57 PM
In article <aq5lp2h34crace15v6galkag473j0rmdhc@4ax.com>, bibon@râlant.org wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,

bibon@râlant.org wrote:


On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:

• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that its
tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to boys ... ...



IOW, homosexual priest.


• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to post-pubescent
males and some priests are sexually attracted to boys as well as girls --
Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.

.
Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?

• C) None of the above.
cheerz
.
User: "Jeff North"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 02 Jan 2007 03:46:20 PM
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 10:50:57 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality
(•R L Measures)
<r-0201071050570001@192.168.1.102> wrote:

| In article <aq5lp2h34crace15v6galkag473j0rmdhc@4ax.com>, bibon@râlant.org wrote:
|
| > On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:
| >
| > >In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,
| bibon@râlant.org wrote:
| > >
| > >> On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,
(•R L Measures) wrote:
| > >>
| > >> >• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that its
| > >> >tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to boys ... ...
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> IOW, homosexual priest.
| > >
| > >• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to post-pubescent
| > >males and some priests are sexually attracted to boys as well as girls --
| > >Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.
| > .
| > Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?
|
| • C) None of the above.
|
| cheerz

Billy-girlieman Taylor is a well known heterosexual paedophile
apologist.
---------------------------------------------------------------
jnorthau@yourpantsyahoo.com.au : Remove your pants to reply
---------------------------------------------------------------
.
User: "•R L Measures"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 02 Jan 2007 05:39:02 PM
In article <llklp2hjv9ld7c2nscfv515bpbhhs24b44@4ax.com>,
jnorthau@yahoo.com.au wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 10:50:57 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality

(•R L Measures)
<r-0201071050570001@192.168.1.102> wrote:

| In article <aq5lp2h34crace15v6galkag473j0rmdhc@4ax.com>,

bibon@râlant.org wrote:

|
| > On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,

(•R L Measures) wrote:
| >
| > >In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,
| bibon@râlant.org wrote:
| > >
| > >> On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,
(•R L Measures) wrote:
| > >>
| > >> >• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that its
| > >> >tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to

boys ... ...

| > >>
| > >>
| > >> IOW, homosexual priest.
| > >
| > >• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to post-pubescent
| > >males and some priests are sexually attracted to boys as well as

girls --

| > >Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.
| > .
| > Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?
|
| • C) None of the above.
|
| cheerz


Billy-girlieman Taylor is a well known heterosexual paedophile
apologist.

• Why doesn't he use his real name?
.
User: "Jeff North"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 03 Jan 2007 10:07:11 PM
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:39:02 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality
(•R L Measures)
<r-0201071539020001@192.168.1.102> wrote:

| In article <llklp2hjv9ld7c2nscfv515bpbhhs24b44@4ax.com>,
|

wrote:
|
| > On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 10:50:57 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality
| >
(•R L Measures)
| > <r-0201071050570001@192.168.1.102> wrote:
| >
| > >| In article <aq5lp2h34crace15v6galkag473j0rmdhc@4ax.com>,
| bibon@râlant.org wrote:
| > >|
| > >| > On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,
(•R L Measures) wrote:
| > >| >
| > >| > >In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,
| > >| bibon@râlant.org wrote:
| > >| > >
| > >| > >> On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,
(•R L Measures) wrote:
| > >| > >>
| > >| > >> >• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is that its
| > >| > >> >tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to
| boys ... ...
| > >| > >>
| > >| > >>
| > >| > >> IOW, homosexual priest.
| > >| > >
| > >| > >• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to post-pubescent
| > >| > >males and some priests are sexually attracted to boys as well as
| girls --
| > >| > >Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.
| > >| > .
| > >| > Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?
| > >|
| > >| • C) None of the above.
| > >|
| > >| cheerz
| >
| > Billy-girlieman Taylor is a well known heterosexual paedophile
| > apologist.
|
| • Why doesn't he use his real name?

With a name like Willie-am???
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User: "•R L Measures"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 04 Jan 2007 03:20:55 AM
In article <jbvop2528pb05tua5mbnsqcc1t67dk1tqd@4ax.com>,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:39:02 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality

(•R L Measures)
<r-0201071539020001@192.168.1.102> wrote:

| In article <llklp2hjv9ld7c2nscfv515bpbhhs24b44@4ax.com>,
|

wrote:
|
| > On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 10:50:57 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality
| >
(•R L Measures)
| > <r-0201071050570001@192.168.1.102> wrote:
| >
| > >| In article <aq5lp2h34crace15v6galkag473j0rmdhc@4ax.com>,
| bibon@râlant.org wrote:
| > >|
| > >| > On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:52:59 -0800,
(•R L

Measures) wrote:

| > >| >
| > >| > >In article <hl0kp2td6iamhu3a7siv8rb025v1j9k33e@4ax.com>,
| > >| bibon@râlant.org wrote:
| > >| > >
| > >| > >> On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:00:25 -0800,

(•R L

Measures) wrote:

| > >| > >>
| > >| > >> >• Well put. The laugher about Mr. Ratzinger's comment is

that its

| > >| > >> >tolerance of priests who are carnally-attracted attracted to
| boys ... ...
| > >| > >>
| > >| > >>
| > >| > >> IOW, homosexual priest.
| > >| > >
| > >| > >• Not necessarily since some priests are attracted to

post-pubescent

| > >| > >males and some priests are sexually attracted to boys as well as
| girls --
| > >| > >Fr. James A. Porter being a well known example.
| > >| > .
| > >| > Are you a full "blown" homophile or just a homosexual apologist?
| > >|
| > >| • C) None of the above.
| > >|
| > >| cheerz
| >
| > Billy-girlieman Taylor is a well known heterosexual paedophile
| > apologist.
|
| • Why doesn't he use his real name?


With a name like Willie-am???

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User: ""

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 01 Jan 2007 02:17:33 AM
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 06:35:42 GMT, Roedy Green
<see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:

But let him do it in an equal opportunity way. If it is wrong for
gays, it wrong for straights. If it wrong for men, it is wrong for
women. Homosexuals per se can also be celibate, monogamous, or
strictly safer sex.

But the matter comes down to the FACT that in the U.S. it male
homosexuals who are doing meth, exhibiting promiscuous behavior and
spreading AIDS, a deadly disease.
Cumulative Effect of HIV Infection and AIDS (through 2003)
* An estimated 503,305 MSM (440,887 MSM and 62,418 MSM who inject
drugs) had received a diagnosis of AIDS, accounting for 67% of all men
and 54% of all people who received a diagnosis of AIDS
* An estimated 295,981 MSM (257,898 MSM and 38,083 MSM who inject
drugs) with AIDS had died, accounting for 68% of all men and 56% of
all people with AIDS who died.
* At the end of 2003, an estimated 207,323 MSM (182,989 MSM and
24,334 MSM who inject drugs) were living with AIDS, representing 66%
of all men and 51% of all people living with AIDS.
RISK FACTORS AND BARRIERS TO PREVENTION
Sexual Risk Factors
Sexual risk factors account for most HIV infections in MSM. These
factors include unprotected sex and sexually transmitted diseases
(STDs).
* Not using a condom during anal sex with someone other than a
primary partner of known HIV status continues to be a significant
threat to the health of MSM. Not all the reasons for an apparent
increase in unprotected anal intercourse are known, but research
points to the following factors: improvements in HIV treatment,
substance use, complex sexual decision making, seeking sex partners on
the Internet, and failure to maintain prevention practices.
* STDs, which increase the risk for HIV infection, remain an issue
for MSM. According to the Gonococcal Isolate Surveillance Project, the
proportion of positive test results for gonorrhea among MSM increased
from 4% in 1988 to 19.6% in 2003. Rates of syphilis among MSM have
increased in some urban areas, including San Francisco, Chicago, New
York, and Seattle. In the 9 US. cities participating in the MSM
Prevalence Monitoring Project, STDs and HIV positivity varied by race
and ethnicity but tended to be highest among African American MSM. In
addition to increasing susceptibility to HIV, STDs are markers for
high-risk sexual practices that can transmit HIV, making increases in
STD rates a cause for concern.
Substance Use
The use of alcohol and illegal drugs continues to be prevalent among
some MSM and is linked to HIV and STD risk. Substance use can increase
the risk of HIV transmission through the tendency toward risky sexual
behaviors while under the influence and through sharing needles or
other injection equipment. Reports of increased use of the stimulant
drug methamphetamine across the country have raised public health
concerns because methamphetamine use has been associated both with
sexual risk behaviors for HIV and STDs and sharing injection equipment
when the drug is injected. Methamphetamine and other “party” drugs
(such as ecstasy, ketamine, and GHP [gamma hydroxybutyrate]) may be
used to decrease social inhibitions and enhance sexual experiences.
These drugs, along with alcohol and nitrate inhalants (“poppers”),
have been associated with risky sexual practices among MSM.
Complacency about Risk
Almost 25 years into the HIV epidemic, there is evidence of an
underestimation of risk, of difficulty in maintaining safer sexual
practices, and of a need to sustain prevention efforts for each
generation of young gay and bisexual men.
* The success of highly active antiretroviral therapy (HAART) may
have had the unintended consequence of increasing some MSM’s risk
behaviors. Some research suggests that the negative aspects of HIV
infection have been minimized since the introduction of HAART, which
has led to a false understanding of what living with HIV means and
thus can lead to increased risk behaviors. For example, some MSM may
mistakenly believe that they or their partners are not infectious when
they take medication or have low or undetectable viral loads. Even
though surveys suggest that optimism about HIV treatments is
associated with a greater willingness to have unprotected anal
intercourse, a recent review found that the prevalence of unprotected
sexual intercourse was not significantly higher among HIV-positive
persons who were receiving HAART or who had an undetectable viral
load. However, this review did find that unprotected sex was
associated with beliefs about HAART and viral load .
* Long-term efforts to maintain safer sexual practices present a
significant challenge. A 4-city study indicates that years of exposure
to prevention messages and long-term efforts to maintain safer sexual
practices may play a role in the decision of HIV-positive MSM to
engage in unprotected anal intercourse.
* The rates of risky behaviors are higher among young MSM than
among older MSM. Not having seen firsthand the toll of AIDS, young MSM
may be less motivated to practice safer sex.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/msm.htm
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 01 Jan 2007 04:05:11 AM
<bibon@râlant.org> wrote:

Roedy Green

But let him do it in an equal opportunity way. If it is wrong for
gays, it wrong for straights. If it wrong for men, it is wrong for
women. Homosexuals per se can also be celibate, monogamous, or
strictly safer sex.


But the matter comes down to the FACT that in the U.S. it male
homosexuals who are doing meth, exhibiting promiscuous behavior and
spreading AIDS, a deadly disease.

Your bigotry and ignorance isn't the truth.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Parsifal"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 01 Jan 2007 04:26:26 AM
bibon@r=E2lant.org schrieb:

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 06:35:42 GMT, Roedy Green
<see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:

But let him do it in an equal opportunity way. If it is wrong for
gays, it wrong for straights. If it wrong for men, it is wrong for
women. Homosexuals per se can also be celibate, monogamous, or
strictly safer sex.


But the matter comes down to the FACT that in the U.S. it male
homosexuals who are doing meth, exhibiting promiscuous behavior and
spreading AIDS, a deadly disease.

Sure enough, since this thread is about homosexuality, bibon, one of
our notorious self-loathing closet gays, had to send his usual rant...
Is there anything AT ALL that interests you beside homosexuality? Why
don't you start your own discussion group then: "alt.closet.gay". You
could take boobandcover, J Young with you.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 02 Jan 2007 12:54:50 AM
On 1 Jan 2007 02:26:26 -0800, "Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:


bibon@râlant.org schrieb:

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 06:35:42 GMT, Roedy Green
<see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:

But let him do it in an equal opportunity way. If it is wrong for
gays, it wrong for straights. If it wrong for men, it is wrong for
women. Homosexuals per se can also be celibate, monogamous, or
strictly safer sex.


But the matter comes down to the FACT that in the U.S. it male
homosexuals who are doing meth, exhibiting promiscuous behavior and
spreading AIDS, a deadly disease.


Sure enough, since this thread is about homosexuality, bibon, one of
our notorious self-loathing closet gays, had to send his usual rant...
Is there anything AT ALL that interests you beside homosexuality? Why
don't you start your own discussion group then: "alt.closet.gay". You
could take boobandcover, J Young with you.

Then I wouldn't have the audience that I have here, you know the info
seekers who read about the homosexual agenda but rarely post. They're
out there and they are the ones I post to inform not you homos. You
already know what a disaster you have been in U.S. society and they
see you frantically trying to cover the damage you have done and
intend to do should we not be vigilant. While they note that I calmly
expose you for what you are.
HTH.
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User: "Sniper .308"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 30 Dec 2006 03:17:40 PM
On 30 Dec 2006 12:51:55 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
That's the very same Pope who refuses to co-operate with law
enforcement when they investigate child molestation charges brought
against his priests.
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Pope: Homosexuals destroy themselves 31 Dec 2006 07:42:59 AM
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:51:55 -0800, J Young wrote:

In his most powerful statements to date on issues involving sexual
morality, Pope Benedict XVI said, "I like boys!"

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
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