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"Graham Kennedy" |
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01 Apr 2005 10:48:06 PM |
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Pope refused to go to / stay in hospital |
BBC News 24 is saying that the pope refused to be taken to
hospital, against the wishes of his doctors.
So essentially, he is refusing treatment and so bringing
about an earlier end to his life.
Christians apparently have no problem with this. Indeed,
commentators have been *praising* his enduring suffering
as a noble thing.
I find this an interesting contrast to recently displayed
Christian attitudes.
Of course, there are many false stories around today and
maybe this is one of them.
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Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Pope refused to go to / stay in hospital |
02 Apr 2005 10:40:59 AM |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:Gck3e.10424$C12.1611@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
BBC News 24 is saying that the pope refused to be taken to
hospital, against the wishes of his doctors.
So essentially, he is refusing treatment and so bringing
about an earlier end to his life.
Christians apparently have no problem with this. Indeed,
commentators have been *praising* his enduring suffering
as a noble thing.
I find this an interesting contrast to recently displayed
Christian attitudes.
Of course, there are many false stories around today and
maybe this is one of them.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
Do you know, he'd probably be doing a lot better if he'd simply of rested
instead of either insisting or being forced to go out again and again.
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| User: "Ike" |
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| Title: Re: Pope refused to go to / stay in hospital |
02 Apr 2005 05:00:57 AM |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:Gck3e.10424$C12.1611@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
BBC News 24 is saying that the pope refused to be taken to
hospital, against the wishes of his doctors.
So essentially, he is refusing treatment and so bringing
about an earlier end to his life.
Christians apparently have no problem with this. Indeed,
commentators have been *praising* his enduring suffering
as a noble thing.
I find this an interesting contrast to recently displayed
Christian attitudes.
Of course, there are many false stories around today and
maybe this is one of them.
Well, you see what happened to Yasser Arafat when he stayed too long at the
hospital.
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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| Title: Re: Pope refused to go to / stay in hospital |
02 Apr 2005 10:15:25 AM |
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Graham Kennedy wrote:
BBC News 24 is saying that the pope refused to be taken to
hospital, against the wishes of his doctors.
So essentially, he is refusing treatment and so bringing
about an earlier end to his life.
Christians apparently have no problem with this. Indeed,
commentators have been *praising* his enduring suffering
as a noble thing.
I find this an interesting contrast to recently displayed
Christian attitudes.
Of course, there are many false stories around today and
maybe this is one of them.
For what it's worth .... my favourite theory is that the idea of a Pope
being kept alive by 'secular medicine and machines that go bing', when
God is clearly calling him, would create too much of an ethical dilemma
for the RCC ....
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Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Pope refused to go to / stay in hospital |
04 Apr 2005 02:59:55 PM |
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On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:15:25 +1000, Masked Avenger
<cootey59_remove@yahoo.com> wrote:
Graham Kennedy wrote:
BBC News 24 is saying that the pope refused to be taken to
hospital, against the wishes of his doctors.
So essentially, he is refusing treatment and so bringing
about an earlier end to his life.
Christians apparently have no problem with this. Indeed,
commentators have been *praising* his enduring suffering
as a noble thing.
I find this an interesting contrast to recently displayed
Christian attitudes.
Of course, there are many false stories around today and
maybe this is one of them.
For what it's worth .... my favourite theory is that the idea of a Pope
being kept alive by 'secular medicine and machines that go bing', when
God is clearly calling him, would create too much of an ethical dilemma
for the RCC ....
Before there's a dilemma the RCC has to have ethics.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Pope refused to go to / stay in hospital |
02 Apr 2005 02:30:34 AM |
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In article <Gck3e.10424$C12.1611@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
graham@ditl.org says...
BBC News 24 is saying that the pope refused to be taken to
hospital, against the wishes of his doctors.
Well I hope that the Italian legislature and the Italian Prime Minister
overrule his decision and force him to stay on life support forever.
Come on Berlusconi, you neo-con asswipe, pull a "Boy Georgie" and demand
that the Pope respect the "culture of life" when it comes to prolonging
his own personal suffering.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Pope refused to go to / stay in hospital |
04 Apr 2005 02:58:34 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:48:06 GMT, Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>
wrote:
BBC News 24 is saying that the pope refused to be taken to
hospital, against the wishes of his doctors.
So essentially, he is refusing treatment and so bringing
about an earlier end to his life.
Christians apparently have no problem with this. Indeed,
commentators have been *praising* his enduring suffering
as a noble thing.
I find this an interesting contrast to recently displayed
Christian attitudes.
Of course, there are many false stories around today and
maybe this is one of them.
Yes, the Vatican has no problem lying through their sphincters.
The Pope died on April Fool's Day as is appropriate.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Godfrey" |
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| Title: Re: Pope refused to go to / stay in hospital |
02 Apr 2005 12:08:52 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:48:06 GMT, Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>
wrote:
Of course, there are many fal
I heard differently- that he merely asked them if it was "really
necessary"- i.e. if there was anything they could do for him there
that would make a difference, like an operation. That is wasn't a
refusal.
-Godfrey
"Faith is not a justification, but an admission that
there is no justification. If there are rational
reasons to believe something, then "faith" is
superfluous. If there are no rational reasons to
believe something, then continued belief is, by
definition, irrational."
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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| Title: Re: Pope refused to go to / stay in hospital |
02 Apr 2005 12:14:29 AM |
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Godfrey wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:48:06 GMT, Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>
wrote:
Of course, there are many fal
I heard differently- that he merely asked them if it was "really
necessary"- i.e. if there was anything they could do for him there
that would make a difference, like an operation. That is wasn't a
refusal.
Could be. I've heard several different people say it
quite explicitly as "refused" so far, but who knows?
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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