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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date: 16 Jun 2006 08:34:25 AM
Object: Pope to Stephen Hawking: "Don't Study the Universe"
That pretty much encapsulates Christian willful ignorance right there.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060616/NEWS06/606160473/1012
Hawking: John Paul said not to study start of universe
HONG KONG -- Famed physicist Stephen Hawking said Thursday that Pope
John Paul II tried to discourage him and other scientists attending a
cosmology conference at the Vatican from trying to figure out how the
universe began.

The British scientist joked that he was lucky the pope didn't realize
he had already presented a paper at the gathering suggesting how the
universe was created.
"I didn't fancy the thought of being handed over to the Inquisition
like Galileo," Hawking said in a lecture to a sold-out audience at
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. John Paul died in
2005; Hawking did not say when the Vatican meeting occurred.
Galileo ran afoul of the Roman Catholic Church in the 17th century for
backing Copernicus' discovery that the Earth revolved around the sun.
The church insisted the Earth was at the center of the universe.
In 1992, John Paul issued a declaration saying the church's
denunciation of Galileo was an error.
Hawking, author of the best-seller "A Brief History of Time," said the
pope told the scientists, "It's OK to study the universe and where it
began. But we should not inquire into the beginning itself because
that was the moment of creation and the work of God."
John Paul insisted faith and science could coexist. In 1996, in a
message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, he said Charles
Darwin's theories were sound as long as they took into account that
creation was the work of God and that Darwin's theory of evolution was
"more than a hypothesis."
But Hawking, 64, questioned whether an almighty power was needed to
create the universe.
"Does it require a creator to decree how the universe began? Or is the
initial state of the universe determined by a law of science?" he
asked.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2499 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
.

User: "LC"

Title: Re: Pope to Stephen Hawking: "Don't Study the Universe" 16 Jun 2006 08:52:28 AM
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:hlb592t0nf2ga2a69lnku805tdln9tmben@4ax.com...

That pretty much encapsulates Christian willful ignorance right there.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060616/NEWS06/606160473/1012
Hawking: John Paul said not to study start of universe
HONG KONG -- Famed physicist Stephen Hawking said Thursday that Pope
John Paul II tried to discourage him and other scientists attending a
cosmology conference at the Vatican from trying to figure out how the
universe began.
The British scientist joked that he was lucky the pope didn't realize
he had already presented a paper at the gathering suggesting how the
universe was created.
"I didn't fancy the thought of being handed over to the Inquisition
like Galileo," Hawking said in a lecture to a sold-out audience at
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. John Paul died in
2005; Hawking did not say when the Vatican meeting occurred.
Galileo ran afoul of the Roman Catholic Church in the 17th century for
backing Copernicus' discovery that the Earth revolved around the sun.
The church insisted the Earth was at the center of the universe.
In 1992, John Paul issued a declaration saying the church's
denunciation of Galileo was an error.

And then there's official Vatican apologist Benny the Rat:
"At the time of Galileo the Church remained much more faithful to reason
than Galileo himself. The process against Galileo was reasonable and just".
~ Joseph Ratzinger, Corriere della Sera, March 30, 1990; 30 Dias, January
1993

Hawking, author of the best-seller "A Brief History of Time," said the
pope told the scientists, "It's OK to study the universe and where it
began. But we should not inquire into the beginning itself because
that was the moment of creation and the work of God."
John Paul insisted faith and science could coexist. In 1996, in a
message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, he said Charles
Darwin's theories were sound as long as they took into account that
creation was the work of God and that Darwin's theory of evolution was
"more than a hypothesis."
But Hawking, 64, questioned whether an almighty power was needed to
create the universe.
"Does it require a creator to decree how the universe began? Or is the
initial state of the universe determined by a law of science?" he
asked.
-----

Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2499 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816

.

User: "Greywolf"

Title: Re: Pope to Stephen Hawking: "Don't Study the Universe" 16 Jun 2006 09:44:48 AM
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:hlb592t0nf2ga2a69lnku805tdln9tmben@4ax.com...

That pretty much encapsulates Christian willful ignorance right there.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060616/NEWS06/606160473/1012

Hawking: John Paul said not to study start of universe

HONG KONG -- Famed physicist Stephen Hawking said Thursday that Pope
John Paul II tried to discourage him and other scientists attending a
cosmology conference at the Vatican from trying to figure out how the
universe began.

The British scientist joked that he was lucky the pope didn't realize
he had already presented a paper at the gathering suggesting how the
universe was created.

"I didn't fancy the thought of being handed over to the Inquisition
like Galileo," Hawking said in a lecture to a sold-out audience at
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. John Paul died in
2005; Hawking did not say when the Vatican meeting occurred.
Galileo ran afoul of the Roman Catholic Church in the 17th century for
backing Copernicus' discovery that the Earth revolved around the sun.
The church insisted the Earth was at the center of the universe.
In 1992, John Paul issued a declaration saying the church's
denunciation of Galileo was an error.

Hawking, author of the best-seller "A Brief History of Time," said the
pope told the scientists, "It's OK to study the universe and where it
began. But we should not inquire into the beginning itself because
that was the moment of creation and the work of God."
John Paul insisted faith and science could coexist. In 1996, in a
message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, he said Charles
Darwin's theories were sound as long as they took into account that
creation was the work of God and that Darwin's theory of evolution was
"more than a hypothesis."

But Hawking, 64, questioned whether an almighty power was needed to
create the universe.

"Does it require a creator to decree how the universe began? Or is the
initial state of the universe determined by a law of science?" he
asked.



-----

Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2499 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

-----

"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry

Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:

http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816

So it seems that the Pope was terribly afraid that Hawking might just
'disprove' the existence of 'God' and 'prove' that the crap that the RCC has
been force-feeding human-kind down through the centuries is just *that* --
'crap'.
Greywolf
.

User: "Attila2"

Title: Re: Pope to Stephen Hawking: "Don't Study the Universe" 16 Jun 2006 03:09:34 PM
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 06:34:25 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in alt.abortion
with message-id <hlb592t0nf2ga2a69lnku805tdln9tmben@4ax.com> wrote:
More propagandizing spam from one of the usual sources.
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