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"J Young" |
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26 Dec 2005 09:44:56 PM |
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Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to 'Enlighten
Humanity'
VATICAN CITY, Dec. 25 -- Pope Benedict XVI, standing on the spot where he
appeared as the newly elected pontiff last spring, delivered his first
Christmas message to a large crowd in St. Peter's Square and warned of
dangers of technological advance made in the absence of religious belief.
"Today we can marshal vast material resources," he said from a balcony to
thousands of people below as rain poured down from gray skies. "But the men
and women in our technological age risk becoming victims of their own
intellectual and technical achievements, ending up in spiritual barrenness
and emptiness of heart.
"The modern age is often seen as an awakening of reason from its slumbers,
humanity's enlightenment after an age of darkness," he said. "Yet without
the light of Christ, the light of reason is not sufficient to enlighten
humanity and the world."
In his homily at midnight Mass in St. Peter's Basilica, a few hours before
his appearance in the square, Benedict made a reference to the church's ban
on abortion, saying that God's love shines on each child, "even on those
still unborn."
The pope's Christmas appearance was much anticipated, in part to see how he
would measure up to John Paul II in terms of charisma and stamina. Benedict,
declaring "Merry Christmas" in 30 languages, presided at the two-hour
midnight Mass without signs of fatigue and braved the foul weather to speak
to the assembled crowd at St. Peter's.
In the traditional Christmas message, titled "Urbi et Orbi," Latin for "to
the city and the world," Benedict reviewed world conditions. Speaking in
Italian, he prayed for "courage to people of goodwill in the Holy Land, in
Iraq, in Lebanon, where signs of hope, which are not lacking, need to be
confirmed by actions inspired by fairness and wisdom."
The pontiff said the suffering refugees in Darfur, a region of western
Sudan, need protection of their "most elementary rights," and he appealed
for resolution of "dangerous disputes" in South Asia and on the Korean
Peninsula.
"A united humanity will be able to confront the troubling problems of the
present time: from the menace of terrorism to the humiliating poverty in
which millions of human beings live, from the proliferation of weapons to
the pandemics and the environmental destruction which threaten the future of
our planet," he said. Benedict, wearing a gold miter and glittering gold
cape with white vestments, stood on the balcony over the main door at St.
Peter's Basilica.
The crowd applauded and cheered. Before the pope's appearance, a military
band serenaded the people waiting in the rain.
Benedict, who has made few comments on social issues during his papacy,
called for a battle against poverty in the name of Jesus. "Do not fear. Put
your trust in Him!" he said. "The life-giving power of His light is an
incentive for building a new world order based on just, ethical and economic
relationships."
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 07:37:56 PM |
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J Blo spends every spare second in some church...and he's as barren
as the Sahara.
Paul
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 12:42:44 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to 'Enlighten
Humanity'
....which has what to do with the 5.6 billion of us on this planet who don't
bother with the Roman church?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 7, San Antonio 1 (December 26)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, December 28 vs. Iowa, 7:05
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| User: "Gaia" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 04:31:24 AM |
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On 27 Dec 2005 00:42:44 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to 'Enlighten
Humanity'
...which has what to do with the 5.6 billion of us on this planet who don't
bother with the Roman church?
Ah, Jyoung's just trolling...
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 07:49:10 AM |
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Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> writes:
On 27 Dec 2005 00:42:44 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to 'Enlighten
Humanity'
...which has what to do with the 5.6 billion of us on this planet who don't
bother with the Roman church?
Ah, Jyoung's just trolling...
....and badly, as usual.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 7, San Antonio 1 (December 26)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, December 28 vs. Iowa, 7:05
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
26 Dec 2005 11:21:46 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to 'Enlighten
Humanity'
Everybody should believe the pope instead. He knows what's really
best for humanity. And pay no attention to the immorality and
hypocrisy that infects the catholic church.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "martin" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 05:43:56 AM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to 'Enlighten
Humanity'
VATICAN CITY, Dec. 25 -- Pope Benedict XVI, standing on the spot where he
appeared as the newly elected pontiff last spring, delivered his first
Christmas message to a large crowd in St. Peter's Square and warned of
dangers of technological advance made in the absence of religious belief.
That's a bit rich when the RCC was responsible for 1000 years stagnation
during the dark ages. Just think where the human race could be today
with an additional 1000 years of technological growth after the Romans.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 06:00:10 AM |
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In News 43b12749$0$29560$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk,, martin at
usenet@etiqa.co.uk, typed this:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to
'Enlighten Humanity'
VATICAN CITY, Dec. 25 -- Pope Benedict XVI, standing on the spot
where he appeared as the newly elected pontiff last spring,
delivered his first Christmas message to a large crowd in St.
Peter's Square and warned of dangers of technological advance made
in the absence of religious belief.
That's a bit rich when the RCC was responsible for 1000 years
stagnation during the dark ages. Just think where the human race
could be today with an additional 1000 years of technological growth
after the Romans.
It wasn't just stagnation either. It was a reversal. Think of it this way,
the Romans were on the verge of creating crude but workable steam powered
devices. Nothing on the order of a locomotive of course, but certainly
devices capable of farm work, and other small applications.
Then came the dark ages. It would be in excess of 1,200 years before the
technology was rediscovered.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 02:23:24 PM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to 'Enlighten
Humanity'
VATICAN CITY, Dec. 25 -- Pope Benedict XVI, standing on the spot where he
appeared as the newly elected pontiff last spring, delivered his first
Christmas message to a large crowd in St. Peter's Square and warned
"pay no attention to the priest behind the curtain with the altar boy"....
<snip>
--
+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
+================================================================+
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| User: "Richard Smol" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 06:26:36 AM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to 'Enlighten
Humanity'
It is still better than Catholicism, which fails to bring any kinf of
enlightenment at all.. quite on the contrary.
RS
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 04:50:39 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:44:56 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<B5qdnTq1VK8lJS3enZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Another off-topic post from a common spammer.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 07:41:39 AM |
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In article <u172r1lg4jod2d2kposotp7uds9ahsg5ke@4ax.com>,
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:44:56 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<B5qdnTq1VK8lJS3enZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Another off-topic post from a common spammer.
you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
do you feel like a hypocrite criticizing others for doing what you do?
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 12:15:44 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:44:56 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message <B5qdnTq1VK8lJS3enZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to 'Enlighten
Humanity'
VATICAN CITY, Dec. 25 -- Pope Benedict XVI, standing on the spot where he
appeared as the newly elected pontiff last spring, delivered his first
Christmas message to a large crowd in St. Peter's Square and warned of
dangers of technological advance made in the absence of religious belief.
Still scared shitless of education. What a surprise! ROFL.
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 08:38:19 AM |
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"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:6jm1r11puv0roti42daqq0e0qct907h7mt@4ax.com...
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:44:56 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message <B5qdnTq1VK8lJS3enZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to 'Enlighten
Humanity'
VATICAN CITY, Dec. 25 -- Pope Benedict XVI, standing on the spot where he
appeared as the newly elected pontiff last spring, delivered his first
Christmas message to a large crowd in St. Peter's Square and warned of
dangers of technological advance made in the absence of religious belief.
Still scared shitless of education. What a surprise! ROFL.
Which, no doubt, explains "IBen's" fawning obsession with the RCC:
"At the time of Galileo the Church remained much more faithful to reason
than Galileo himself. The process against Galileo was reasonable and just".
~ Joseph Ratzinger, former Hitler Youth and future Pope Benny, Corriere
della Sera, March 30, 1990; 30 Dias, January
1993
LC~ Too bad no one warned "J Young" about "mental barrenness".
"I'm working on getting a grip."
From: (Jon Young), not working much.
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404280727.6b3fc8df@posting.google.com>
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 04:15:05 AM |
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In News 6jm1r11puv0roti42daqq0e0qct907h7mt@4ax.com,, Boy Toy at
BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com, typed this:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:44:56 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message <B5qdnTq1VK8lJS3enZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to
'Enlighten Humanity'
VATICAN CITY, Dec. 25 -- Pope Benedict XVI, standing on the spot
where he appeared as the newly elected pontiff last spring,
delivered his first Christmas message to a large crowd in St.
Peter's Square and warned of dangers of technological advance made
in the absence of religious belief.
Still scared shitless of education. What a surprise! ROFL.
Most people don't know how lucky we all are that most of the Western
Government did away with the theocratic structure of our governments which
prevents this Pope from establishing a new Inquisition.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Warns of Modern 'Spiritual Barrenness' |
27 Dec 2005 08:35:27 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:44:56 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500588.html
Christmas Message Says Technological Advance Is Insufficient to 'Enlighten
Humanity'
Why do believers hate human achievement?
They constantly denigrate and belittle the things we are capable of
doing and when they approve some of the things we do they even try to
take that from us and attribute them to gods. Thus we are not allowed
to invent things and improve our lives and denied our ability to love
and to have compassion for one another.
When believers are rescued from disaster, instead of thanking their
rescuers they insult them by thanking a god which they even regard
as responsible for the disaster in the first place.
No wonder the world is turning its back on these miserable
anti-humanists like the medieval Pope and all his works.
--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "Goodness Godless" |
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| Title: Who Cares what the Pope Warns of. |
27 Dec 2005 01:08:41 AM |
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Who care what an aged member of the Nazi Youth Movement thinks!
Are you into Old Men Young?
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| User: "John Baker" |
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27 Dec 2005 03:26:54 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:08:41 +0200, "Goodness Godless" <cla@cwcom.net>
wrote:
Who care what an aged member of the Nazi Youth Movement thinks!
Are you into Old Men Young?
If the Pope was an honest man, he'd warn us about the RCC. <G>
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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27 Dec 2005 09:03:21 AM |
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John Baker wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:08:41 +0200, "Goodness Godless" <cla@cwcom.net>
wrote:
Who care what an aged member of the Nazi Youth Movement thinks!
Are you into Old Men Young?
If the Pope was an honest man, he'd warn us about the RCC. <G>
Fact!
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