In article <1729482.YJ7aACkbEM@Max.com>, M^� > wrote:

These days, it's definitely harder to maintain a good marriage,
mainly because morons speak out against morals.

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

In article <1729482.YJ7aACkbEM@Max.com>, Mˆê <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm>
wrote:

These days, it's definitely harder to maintain a good marriage,
mainly because morons speak out against morals.

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

A lot of women are into porn - just not the same sort of porn as men.
I know a lot of women who read erotic fiction and enjoy the more
intelligent and subtle variety of porn movies. I have a book somewhere
about women's sexual fantasies. It's quite an enlightening read :-)

On Sun, 01 May 2005 02:42:41 GMT, MÐ <MÐ <mÃÐMÁ×¹@ÅsSrEmOvEr.çøm>> wrote
in message <1729482.YJ7aACkbEM@Max.com>:

Mel wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:32:34 GMT, peachy ashie passion

Keith E. wrote:

yeah well... I'm impressed by the quality of junk cluttering up
your mental attic.

Wow, and you haven't even seen my pr0n collection!

And why haven't I?

I'm not easy.

*snort*
You mean you are ashamed.

ha ha ha.
*****, i watched this Christian program about people being redeemed from
porn and sexual addiction.

first off, some jerk off announced that he doesn't believe in the
concept of sexual addiction - it's a sin, plain and simple. everyone
nodded their heads, including the anchors.

that presented the anchors with quite a dilemma because they had all
their teleprompter lines referring to sexual addiction and now they had
to try and integrate this new "knowledge" into the program and quit
talking about sexual addiction. they even had an entire section devoted
to the topic of sexual addiction, which they screened anyway. they never
quite worked it out.

then you had this pathetic litany of saps who were all eaten up inside
with guilt and shame about the fact that they jerk off to Internet porn
and pick up hookers (while being married to good Christian women who are
simply APPALLED at their mates' behaviour).

these fucking arseholes create a problem out of thin air and then spend
an enormous amount of pointless energy trying to solve it and deliver up
wholesome non-porn-lovin' good Christian men.

if you view pornography through the distorted lens of Christianity, you
will instantly create a problem for yourself. a bogus problem. a hoax
problem. you will believe that masturbation is a sin. you will feel bad
about yourself and develop low self-esteem everytime you "slip up" and
use porno and masturbate to it.

the problem lies with Christian morals being completely out of step with
reality. that is the real problem. they are attempting to make water
flow uphill, but it don't work that way.

man is a sexual animal who desires to have intercourse with multiple
partners. that is what we are. Christianity acknowledges this, but then
goes on to attribute this behaviour to a fallen nature which is "bad".

Christianity has a lot of negative ***** to say about the nature of the
"flesh". Christianity strives its damnest to denounce an essential part
of us as evil. from there, you just have problem after problem.

fact is, you can't change the nature of what we are. we are animals. as
primates, we behave like apes. we are apes. and we are promiscuous apes,
not suited to living in monogamous relations. all the hoo haa about
infidelity in marriage is all bollocks. we are not designed to live
monogamous lives. we are designed to ***** as many partners as possible.
this applies to both men and women.

so the sooner men and women completely drop the expectation of sexual
fidelity to them and them alone, the better for society, because it will
lead to less friction, less outrage, less conflict, less unhappiness.

the concept of morality has not lead to a better society. it has
produced a society of men and women who are not enjoying their lives to
the fullest, because a bunch of misguided religious fools got it wrong a
long time ago, and can't work it out. won't work it out.

Women have as much of a sex drive as men but are far less likely to get
into porn, mainly because they're not as visual-minded about sex as we
are. Though I myself am not yet married, I'd have to say the happiest,
most well adjusted people in society are people in a _good_ marriage.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

get married first, then come talk to us.

These days,
it's definitely harder to maintain a good marriage, mainly because morons
speak out against morals.

yer shifting the blame already BEFORE anything has even gone wrong.

why can people not take responsibility for themselves and their situation?

during the Apartheid era in South Africa, Christian Afrikaner politicians
at one stage blamed some economic crisis on the fact that women were
suntanning topless on beaches. no, I am not exaggerating.

When Hansie Cronje was caught in the match fixing scandal, he blamed the
Devil for leading him astray.

I think most marriages fail for the simple reason that most people are
simply unwilling / unable to abide by unrealistic marriage vows. Although,
when entering into the contract, they have idealistic aims of being true
to their "one and only love", ultimately reality bites.

Just as the tides of the oceans of the Earth are controlled by the Moon,
so we are controlled by the tidal forces of the hormones surging through
our bloodstream. We must screw that man / woman!! We are designed to want
to *****!! It is part of the very nature of our survival as a species.

Morality is overridden by our sexual urges, because sexual urges have a
higher priority. It may appear to us that they are merely base sexual
urges, but there is nothing base about it. 'Base' is just an invented
adjective. It has no relevance. It merely leads our thinking astray.
Morality holds no value for us, or we would easily be more moral beings.
It is a lead weight dragging us down, rather than buoying us up. The more
we give into our natural urges, the better.

What the ***** is wrong with committing to a
relationship and swearing (before God/people) that you'll uphold your
commitment, and then actually following through with it?

What is right with it?

Who decided that we needed to be in sexually monogamous relationships?
Why?

Those questions, however, are irrelevant.

What is relevant is what happens in reality. And in reality, over 60% of
people cheat on their partner at some time. 100% of people want to cheat.
That I am 100% confident of.

When water starts to flow uphill, people will be sexually faithful to
their partners and not before.