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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Mel"
Date: 30 Apr 2005 08:55:33 AM
Object: porn and sexual addiction
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:32:34 GMT, peachy ashie passion
<res1n5cb@invalid.net> wrote in message <67Cce.303$eC.293@trnddc07>:

Keith E. wrote:

yeah well... I'm impressed by the quality of junk cluttering up
your mental attic.

Wow, and you haven't even seen my pr0n collection!

And why haven't I?

I'm not easy.

*snort*
You mean you are ashamed.

ha ha ha.
*****, i watched this Christian program about people being redeemed from porn
and sexual addiction.
first off, some jerk off announced that he doesn't believe in the concept of
sexual addiction - it's a sin, plain and simple. everyone nodded their
heads, including the anchors.
that presented the anchors with quite a dilemma because they had all their
teleprompter lines referring to sexual addiction and now they had to try and
integrate this new "knowledge" into the program and quit talking about
sexual addiction. they even had an entire section devoted to the topic of
sexual addiction, which they screened anyway. they never quite worked it
out.
then you had this pathetic litany of saps who were all eaten up inside with
guilt and shame about the fact that they jerk off to Internet porn and pick
up hookers (while being married to good Christian women who are simply
APPALLED at their mates' behaviour).
these fucking arseholes create a problem out of thin air and then spend an
enormous amount of pointless energy trying to solve it and deliver up
wholesome non-porn-lovin' good Christian men.
if you view pornography through the distorted lens of Christianity, you will
instantly create a problem for yourself. a bogus problem. a hoax problem.
you will believe that masturbation is a sin. you will feel bad about
yourself and develop low self-esteem everytime you "slip up" and use porno
and masturbate to it.
the problem lies with Christian morals being completely out of step with
reality. that is the real problem. they are attempting to make water flow
uphill, but it don't work that way.
man is a sexual animal who desires to have intercourse with multiple
partners. that is what we are. Christianity acknowledges this, but then goes
on to attribute this behaviour to a fallen nature which is "bad".
Christianity has a lot of negative ***** to say about the nature of the
"flesh". Christianity strives its damnest to denounce an essential part of
us as evil. from there, you just have problem after problem.
fact is, you can't change the nature of what we are. we are animals. as
primates, we behave like apes. we are apes. and we are promiscuous apes, not
suited to living in monogamous relations. all the hoo haa about infidelity
in marriage is all bollocks. we are not designed to live monogamous lives.
we are designed to ***** as many partners as possible. this applies to both
men and women.
so the sooner men and women completely drop the expectation of sexual
fidelity to them and them alone, the better for society, because it will
lead to less friction, less outrage, less conflict, less unhappiness.
the concept of morality has not lead to a better society. it has produced a
society of men and women who are not enjoying their lives to the fullest,
because a bunch of misguided religious fools got it wrong a long time ago,
and can't work it out. won't work it out.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.

User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 30 Apr 2005 09:45:43 AM
"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:32:34 GMT, peachy ashie passion
<res1n5cb@invalid.net> wrote in message <67Cce.303$eC.293@trnddc07>:

Keith E. wrote:

yeah well... I'm impressed by the quality of junk cluttering up
your mental attic.

Wow, and you haven't even seen my pr0n collection!

And why haven't I?

I'm not easy.

*snort*
You mean you are ashamed.


ha ha ha.

*****, i watched this Christian program about people being redeemed from
porn
and sexual addiction.

first off, some jerk off announced that he doesn't believe in the concept
of
sexual addiction - it's a sin, plain and simple. everyone nodded their
heads, including the anchors.

that presented the anchors with quite a dilemma because they had all their
teleprompter lines referring to sexual addiction and now they had to try
and
integrate this new "knowledge" into the program and quit talking about
sexual addiction. they even had an entire section devoted to the topic of
sexual addiction, which they screened anyway. they never quite worked it
out.

then you had this pathetic litany of saps who were all eaten up inside
with
guilt and shame about the fact that they jerk off to Internet porn and
pick
up hookers (while being married to good Christian women who are simply
APPALLED at their mates' behaviour).

these fucking arseholes create a problem out of thin air and then spend an
enormous amount of pointless energy trying to solve it and deliver up
wholesome non-porn-lovin' good Christian men.

if you view pornography through the distorted lens of Christianity, you
will
instantly create a problem for yourself. a bogus problem. a hoax problem.
you will believe that masturbation is a sin. you will feel bad about
yourself and develop low self-esteem everytime you "slip up" and use porno
and masturbate to it.

the problem lies with Christian morals being completely out of step with
reality. that is the real problem. they are attempting to make water flow
uphill, but it don't work that way.

man is a sexual animal who desires to have intercourse with multiple
partners. that is what we are. Christianity acknowledges this, but then
goes
on to attribute this behaviour to a fallen nature which is "bad".

Christianity has a lot of negative ***** to say about the nature of the
"flesh". Christianity strives its damnest to denounce an essential part of
us as evil. from there, you just have problem after problem.

fact is, you can't change the nature of what we are. we are animals. as
primates, we behave like apes. we are apes. and we are promiscuous apes,
not
suited to living in monogamous relations. all the hoo haa about infidelity
in marriage is all bollocks. we are not designed to live monogamous lives.
we are designed to ***** as many partners as possible. this applies to both
men and women.

so the sooner men and women completely drop the expectation of sexual
fidelity to them and them alone, the better for society, because it will
lead to less friction, less outrage, less conflict, less unhappiness.

the concept of morality has not lead to a better society. it has produced
a
society of men and women who are not enjoying their lives to the fullest,
because a bunch of misguided religious fools got it wrong a long time ago,
and can't work it out. won't work it out.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/

's all about the urge to procreate
.
User: "Uv"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 30 Apr 2005 02:31:31 PM
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
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"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:32:34 GMT, peachy ashie passion
<res1n5cb@invalid.net> wrote in message <67Cce.303$eC.293@trnddc07>:

Keith E. wrote:

yeah well... I'm impressed by the quality of junk cluttering up
your mental attic.

Wow, and you haven't even seen my pr0n collection!

And why haven't I?

I'm not easy.

*snort*
You mean you are ashamed.


ha ha ha.

*****, i watched this Christian program about people being redeemed from
porn
and sexual addiction.

first off, some jerk off announced that he doesn't believe in the concept
of
sexual addiction - it's a sin, plain and simple. everyone nodded their
heads, including the anchors.

that presented the anchors with quite a dilemma because they had all
their
teleprompter lines referring to sexual addiction and now they had to try
and
integrate this new "knowledge" into the program and quit talking about
sexual addiction. they even had an entire section devoted to the topic of
sexual addiction, which they screened anyway. they never quite worked it
out.

then you had this pathetic litany of saps who were all eaten up inside
with
guilt and shame about the fact that they jerk off to Internet porn and
pick
up hookers (while being married to good Christian women who are simply
APPALLED at their mates' behaviour).

these fucking arseholes create a problem out of thin air and then spend
an
enormous amount of pointless energy trying to solve it and deliver up
wholesome non-porn-lovin' good Christian men.

if you view pornography through the distorted lens of Christianity, you
will
instantly create a problem for yourself. a bogus problem. a hoax problem.
you will believe that masturbation is a sin. you will feel bad about
yourself and develop low self-esteem everytime you "slip up" and use
porno
and masturbate to it.

the problem lies with Christian morals being completely out of step with
reality. that is the real problem. they are attempting to make water flow
uphill, but it don't work that way.

man is a sexual animal who desires to have intercourse with multiple
partners. that is what we are. Christianity acknowledges this, but then
goes
on to attribute this behaviour to a fallen nature which is "bad".

Christianity has a lot of negative ***** to say about the nature of the
"flesh". Christianity strives its damnest to denounce an essential part
of
us as evil. from there, you just have problem after problem.

fact is, you can't change the nature of what we are. we are animals. as
primates, we behave like apes. we are apes. and we are promiscuous apes,
not
suited to living in monogamous relations. all the hoo haa about
infidelity
in marriage is all bollocks. we are not designed to live monogamous
lives.
we are designed to ***** as many partners as possible. this applies to
both
men and women.

so the sooner men and women completely drop the expectation of sexual
fidelity to them and them alone, the better for society, because it will
lead to less friction, less outrage, less conflict, less unhappiness.

the concept of morality has not lead to a better society. it has produced
a
society of men and women who are not enjoying their lives to the fullest,
because a bunch of misguided religious fools got it wrong a long time
ago,
and can't work it out. won't work it out.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/



's all about the urge to procreate

'sall about the urge to get off!
.
User: "Clayton...Barber Responsible For The Lunatic Fringe"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 30 Apr 2005 06:21:27 PM
"Uv" <mzdpatterson@somewhere-else.com> wrote in message
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
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's all about the urge to procreate


'sall about the urge to get off!

Exactly! Orgasms feel really, really good and people want to have as many
as possible. Christians think pleasure is bad, so therefore if porn helps
people feel pleasure it must be evil and people who enjoy it must be
addicted! Just standard Christian ***** given credence through public
indoctrination. If someone managed to interpret that Jeebus thought chewing
gum was evil, there would be organizations formed over night fighting the
evils of gum and gum addiction!
.
User: "Uv"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 30 Apr 2005 06:51:25 PM
"Clayton...Barber Responsible For The Lunatic Fringe"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in message
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"Uv" <mzdpatterson@somewhere-else.com> wrote in message
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
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's all about the urge to procreate


'sall about the urge to get off!


Exactly! Orgasms feel really, really good and people want to have as many
as possible. Christians think pleasure is bad, so therefore if porn helps
people feel pleasure it must be evil and people who enjoy it must be
addicted! Just standard Christian ***** given credence through public
indoctrination. If someone managed to interpret that Jeebus thought
chewing
gum was evil, there would be organizations formed over night fighting the
evils of gum and gum addiction!

I'm not going to argue that porn is not addictive, or destructive. Just like
anything taken to an extreme; Alcohol, sex, porn, crack, etc. What are you
looking for? what are you trying to replace? Are you just trying to
occasionally get off? or can you not get off without the vision of a barely
18 girl spread and tied? Porn has it's place. I enjoy my fair share. It
does not REplace anyone or any real encounter, tho.. any (realistic) addict
can know when they've gone over that line. ...
I've a feeling that I'm preaching to the choir... :o)
.
User: "Mel"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 07:36:19 AM
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:51:25 -0400, "Uv" <mzdpatterson@somewhere-else.com>
wrote in message <39qdnVb9y4l5hOnfRVn-hA@comcast.com>:

"Clayton...Barber Responsible For The Lunatic Fringe"

"Uv" <mzdpatterson@somewhere-else.com> wrote in message

"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message

's all about the urge to procreate

'sall about the urge to get off!

Exactly! Orgasms feel really, really good and people want to have as many
as possible. Christians think pleasure is bad, so therefore if porn helps
people feel pleasure it must be evil and people who enjoy it must be
addicted! Just standard Christian ***** given credence through public
indoctrination. If someone managed to interpret that Jeebus thought
chewing
gum was evil, there would be organizations formed over night fighting the
evils of gum and gum addiction!

I'm not going to argue that porn is not addictive, or destructive.

i am.
the people who claim that porn is bad, are using porn as a scapegoat for
some other thing they have done. Ted Bundi blamed porn for making him a
serial killer, for instance.

Just like
anything taken to an extreme; Alcohol, sex, porn, crack, etc. What are you
looking for? what are you trying to replace? Are you just trying to
occasionally get off? or can you not get off without the vision of a barely
18 girl spread and tied? Porn has it's place. I enjoy my fair share. It
does not REplace anyone or any real encounter, tho.. any (realistic) addict
can know when they've gone over that line. ...
I've a feeling that I'm preaching to the choir... :o)

wow. you obviously feel the need to justify yer sad self.
feeling bad about using porn is the problem and NOTHING else.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.


User: "Mephisto"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 12:45:19 PM
On Sun, 1 May 2005 09:21:27 +1000, "Clayton...Barber Responsible For
The Lunatic Fringe" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote:


"Uv" <mzdpatterson@somewhere-else.com> wrote in message
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
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's all about the urge to procreate


'sall about the urge to get off!


Exactly! Orgasms feel really, really good and people want to have as many
as possible. Christians think pleasure is bad, so therefore if porn helps
people feel pleasure it must be evil and people who enjoy it must be
addicted! Just standard Christian ***** given credence through public
indoctrination. If someone managed to interpret that Jeebus thought chewing
gum was evil, there would be organizations formed over night fighting the
evils of gum and gum addiction!

I don't think it's a question of Christians thinking it's bad. I think
the church leaders realized that they needed a strong form of control
over their congregation. The threat of hell is a pretty good one, but
they needed to tap into things people thought about every day in order
to maintain a firm grip on the minds of their sheep.
Instilling the belief that the most natural urge in existence is evil
was pretty clever. They knew that by associating lust with guilt, they
would condemn the flock to a life of constant fear and repentance, and
repentance has always been good business for the church. Try as they
might, nobody can completely block out their natural animal instincts
so the money and power will keep on rolling in.
Personally, I suspect Jesus knocked one off on a regular basis. It was
the power-hungry leaders of the church that came after him who turned
christianity into the monstrous plague on society that it is today.
Mephisto
.
User: "Mel"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 02 May 2005 09:42:32 AM
On Sun, 01 May 2005 18:45:19 +0100, Mephisto <mephisto@go.away> wrote in
message <u85a71lkf7s1msgta7bmjl134dicqpcim3@4ax.com>:

On Sun, 1 May 2005 09:21:27 +1000, "Clayton...Barber Responsible For
The Lunatic Fringe" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote:

"Uv" <mzdpatterson@somewhere-else.com> wrote in message

"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message

's all about the urge to procreate

'sall about the urge to get off!

Exactly! Orgasms feel really, really good and people want to have as many
as possible. Christians think pleasure is bad, so therefore if porn helps
people feel pleasure it must be evil and people who enjoy it must be
addicted! Just standard Christian ***** given credence through public
indoctrination. If someone managed to interpret that Jeebus thought chewing
gum was evil, there would be organizations formed over night fighting the
evils of gum and gum addiction!

I don't think it's a question of Christians thinking it's bad. I think
the church leaders realized that they needed a strong form of control
over their congregation. The threat of hell is a pretty good one, but
they needed to tap into things people thought about every day in order
to maintain a firm grip on the minds of their sheep.
Instilling the belief that the most natural urge in existence is evil
was pretty clever. They knew that by associating lust with guilt, they
would condemn the flock to a life of constant fear and repentance, and
repentance has always been good business for the church. Try as they
might, nobody can completely block out their natural animal instincts
so the money and power will keep on rolling in.
Personally, I suspect Jesus knocked one off on a regular basis. It was
the power-hungry leaders of the church that came after him who turned
christianity into the monstrous plague on society that it is today.
Mephisto

the only useful Christians were the Spanish Inquisition who believed in
torturing to death undesireables.
gotta respect that.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.



User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 04:59:02 AM



's all about the urge to procreate


'sall about the urge to get off!



Yep which unconsciously is the urge to procreate ;)
.
User: "Mel"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 07:36:06 AM
On Sun, 1 May 2005 09:59:02 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote
in message <d52996$965$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>:

's all about the urge to procreate

'sall about the urge to get off!

Yep which unconsciously is the urge to procreate ;)

i have a conscious urge to kill you.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.
User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 08:18:28 AM
"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 1 May 2005 09:59:02 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote
in message <d52996$965$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>:

's all about the urge to procreate

'sall about the urge to get off!

Yep which unconsciously is the urge to procreate ;)


i have a conscious urge to kill you.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler

I'm actually trying to point out that you can't just "switch" your sex drive
off . It's not something you have a choice in. Your bodies primary goal is
to procreate
.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 09:54:23 AM
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote


"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message
news:t3e971h8igqqkne1lm0j2gki38e1pnpko4@4ax.com...

On Sun, 1 May 2005 09:59:02 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote
in message <d52996$965$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>:

's all about the urge to procreate

'sall about the urge to get off!

Yep which unconsciously is the urge to procreate ;)


i have a conscious urge to kill you.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler



I'm actually trying to point out that you can't just "switch" your sex drive
off . It's not something you have a choice in. Your bodies primary goal is
to procreate


Secondary. Your body's /secondary/ goal is to procreate. Your body's
primary goal is to eat, figuratively. That's all been mapped out long ago,
self-survival comes first, survival of the group comes second. First dinner,
then sex.
.
User: "Mel"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 02 May 2005 09:42:33 AM
On Sun, 01 May 2005 14:54:23 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
<z46de.12133$XF3.11050@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:

"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote

"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message

On Sun, 1 May 2005 09:59:02 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote

's all about the urge to procreate

'sall about the urge to get off!

Yep which unconsciously is the urge to procreate ;)

i have a conscious urge to kill you.

I'm actually trying to point out that you can't just "switch" your sex drive
off . It's not something you have a choice in. Your bodies primary goal is
to procreate

Secondary. Your body's /secondary/ goal is to procreate. Your body's
primary goal is to eat, figuratively. That's all been mapped out long ago,
self-survival comes first, survival of the group comes second. First dinner,
then sex.

and sleep. you can't ***** if yer not properly rested.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.

User: "LP"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 09:50:02 PM
On Sun, 01 May 2005 14:54:23 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:


"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote


"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message
news:t3e971h8igqqkne1lm0j2gki38e1pnpko4@4ax.com...

On Sun, 1 May 2005 09:59:02 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote
in message <d52996$965$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>:

's all about the urge to procreate

'sall about the urge to get off!

Yep which unconsciously is the urge to procreate ;)


i have a conscious urge to kill you.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler



I'm actually trying to point out that you can't just "switch" your sex drive
off . It's not something you have a choice in. Your bodies primary goal is
to procreate


Secondary. Your body's /secondary/ goal is to procreate. Your body's
primary goal is to eat, figuratively. That's all been mapped out long ago,
self-survival comes first, survival of the group comes second. First dinner,
then sex.

Every creature, in the long-run, acts to maximize the number of
descendants. Any creature which does not act this way will eventually
be out-bred by those who do. While a creature may have enough for its
own needs the number of descendants it can have is bounded only by the
resources around it. Hence creatures are generally insatiable.
Biological organisms can be understood as "vehicles" used by their
genes for making more copies of those genes, regardless of the effect
they might have on individuals or species. Obviously, genes that tend
to help the organisms they are in to survive and reproduce also
improve their own chances of being passed on; so most of the time
"successful" genes will also be beneficial to the organism. But there
are exceptions: segregation distortion genes, for example, that are
detrimental to their host nonetheless propagate themselves at its
expense. Likewise, the existence of junk DNA that provides no benefit
to its host, once a puzzle, can be more easily explained. These
examples might suggest that there is a power-struggle between those
genes and their host. In fact, the claim is that the interests of the
organism are redundant, from an evolutionary point of view.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Selfish_Gene
http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins-archive/Dawkins/Work/Books/selfish.shtml
http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Selfish_gene
.
User: "Postmaster"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 11:42:52 PM
In article <i54b719r542g37smmh99cocgc660i8dhhb@4ax.com>
LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:


On Sun, 01 May 2005 14:54:23 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:


"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote


"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message
news:t3e971h8igqqkne1lm0j2gki38e1pnpko4@4ax.com...

On Sun, 1 May 2005 09:59:02 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote
in message <d52996$965$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>:

's all about the urge to procreate

'sall about the urge to get off!

Yep which unconsciously is the urge to procreate ;)


i have a conscious urge to kill you.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler



I'm actually trying to point out that you can't just "switch" your sex drive
off . It's not something you have a choice in. Your bodies primary goal is
to procreate


Secondary. Your body's /secondary/ goal is to procreate. Your body's
primary goal is to eat, figuratively. That's all been mapped out long ago,
self-survival comes first, survival of the group comes second. First dinner,
then sex.



Every creature, in the long-run, acts to maximize the number of
descendants. Any creature which does not act this way will eventually
be out-bred by those who do. While a creature may have enough for its
own needs the number of descendants it can have is bounded only by the
resources around it. Hence creatures are generally insatiable.


Biological organisms can be understood as "vehicles" used by their
genes for making more copies of those genes, regardless of the effect
they might have on individuals or species. Obviously, genes that tend
to help the organisms they are in to survive and reproduce also
improve their own chances of being passed on; so most of the time
"successful" genes will also be beneficial to the organism. But there
are exceptions: segregation distortion genes, for example, that are
detrimental to their host nonetheless propagate themselves at its
expense. Likewise, the existence of junk DNA that provides no benefit
to its host, once a puzzle, can be more easily explained. These
examples might suggest that there is a power-struggle between those
genes and their host. In fact, the claim is that the interests of the
organism are redundant, from an evolutionary point of view.


Zzzz.
.



User: "Mel"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 02 May 2005 09:42:35 AM
On Sun, 1 May 2005 13:18:28 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote
in message <d52kv4$o03$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>:

"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message

On Sun, 1 May 2005 09:59:02 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote

's all about the urge to procreate

'sall about the urge to get off!

Yep which unconsciously is the urge to procreate ;)

i have a conscious urge to kill you.

I'm actually trying to point out that you can't just "switch" your sex drive
off.

That is the truth that Christians refuse to acknowledge. Or they'll
"acknowledge" it, but then qualify their "acknowlegement" by saying that one
needs to "control" your sexual urges.
The _false_ assumption (made by many many people, not just Christians) is
that our brains and intellectual appreciation of reality is superior to
reality itself. It is not. What really happens is real - everything else is
just an attempt to understand something which is incredibly complex.

It's not something you have a choice in. Your bodies primary goal is
to procreate.

Correct. It is one of our primary goals.
Religious morality is not real. It is an intellectual ideal which is
irrelevant to reality. It does shape reality, but not for the better.
Morality has never added anything except misery to humanity.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.





User: "Mel"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 30 Apr 2005 02:45:47 PM
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:45:43 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote
in message <d505mm$5q6$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>:

"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message
news:r6t671plr8rpb6665gjtil819nqmfns9hr@4ax.com...

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:32:34 GMT, peachy ashie passion
<res1n5cb@invalid.net> wrote in message <67Cce.303$eC.293@trnddc07>:

Keith E. wrote:

yeah well... I'm impressed by the quality of junk cluttering up
your mental attic.

Wow, and you haven't even seen my pr0n collection!

And why haven't I?

I'm not easy.

*snort*
You mean you are ashamed.


ha ha ha.

*****, i watched this Christian program about people being redeemed from
porn
and sexual addiction.

first off, some jerk off announced that he doesn't believe in the concept
of
sexual addiction - it's a sin, plain and simple. everyone nodded their
heads, including the anchors.

that presented the anchors with quite a dilemma because they had all their
teleprompter lines referring to sexual addiction and now they had to try
and
integrate this new "knowledge" into the program and quit talking about
sexual addiction. they even had an entire section devoted to the topic of
sexual addiction, which they screened anyway. they never quite worked it
out.

then you had this pathetic litany of saps who were all eaten up inside
with
guilt and shame about the fact that they jerk off to Internet porn and
pick
up hookers (while being married to good Christian women who are simply
APPALLED at their mates' behaviour).

these fucking arseholes create a problem out of thin air and then spend an
enormous amount of pointless energy trying to solve it and deliver up
wholesome non-porn-lovin' good Christian men.

if you view pornography through the distorted lens of Christianity, you
will
instantly create a problem for yourself. a bogus problem. a hoax problem.
you will believe that masturbation is a sin. you will feel bad about
yourself and develop low self-esteem everytime you "slip up" and use porno
and masturbate to it.

the problem lies with Christian morals being completely out of step with
reality. that is the real problem. they are attempting to make water flow
uphill, but it don't work that way.

man is a sexual animal who desires to have intercourse with multiple
partners. that is what we are. Christianity acknowledges this, but then
goes
on to attribute this behaviour to a fallen nature which is "bad".

Christianity has a lot of negative ***** to say about the nature of the
"flesh". Christianity strives its damnest to denounce an essential part of
us as evil. from there, you just have problem after problem.

fact is, you can't change the nature of what we are. we are animals. as
primates, we behave like apes. we are apes. and we are promiscuous apes,
not
suited to living in monogamous relations. all the hoo haa about infidelity
in marriage is all bollocks. we are not designed to live monogamous lives.
we are designed to ***** as many partners as possible. this applies to both
men and women.

so the sooner men and women completely drop the expectation of sexual
fidelity to them and them alone, the better for society, because it will
lead to less friction, less outrage, less conflict, less unhappiness.

the concept of morality has not lead to a better society. it has produced
a
society of men and women who are not enjoying their lives to the fullest,
because a bunch of misguided religious fools got it wrong a long time ago,
and can't work it out. won't work it out.

's all about the urge to procreate

no, i don't want kids. i just want to *****.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.
User: "Jules"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 30 Apr 2005 10:42:48 PM
"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message
news:n2o7711jncrl7vt9meur9k8poep2jmn3kt@4ax.com...

's all about the urge to procreate


no, i don't want kids. i just want to *****.

You keep telling yourself that, numb nuts.
There's no shame in adoption, you know.
Jule§
.
User: "Mel"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 07:36:20 AM
On Sun, 1 May 2005 13:12:48 +0930, "Jules" <jasmac@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
message <42745035$0$4659$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>:

"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message

's all about the urge to procreate

no, i don't want kids. i just want to *****.

You keep telling yourself that, numb nuts.

no, i don't tell myself that, because i already know it.

There's no shame in adoption, you know.
Jule§

i have no interest in raising children.
i prefer the company of my two dogs.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.


User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 05:00:23 AM


's all about the urge to procreate


no, i don't want kids. i just want to *****.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler

Neither do I, but thats a conscious choice, unconsciously your body wants to
make babies
.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 09:56:28 AM
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote


's all about the urge to procreate


no, i don't want kids. i just want to *****.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler


Neither do I, but thats a conscious choice, unconsciously your body wants to
make babies


So that explains why Mel is so fucked up... he's supposedly a male but his
body wants to make babies. Do you suppose he has a menstrual cycle?
we could check Google history for that... nope, he's always a *****.
.
User: "LP"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 08:58:02 PM
On Sun, 01 May 2005 14:56:28 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:


"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote


's all about the urge to procreate


no, i don't want kids. i just want to *****.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler


Neither do I, but thats a conscious choice, unconsciously your body wants to
make babies


So that explains why Mel is so fucked up... he's supposedly a male but his
body wants to make babies. Do you suppose he has a menstrual cycle?
we could check Google history for that... nope, he's always a *****.

Wanting to make babies is not the same thing as wanting to become
pregnant. The genes in both males and females direct all of their
characteristics. All of these traits can be traced to one thing,
increasing the chances that their genes will be replicated in future
generations.
.


User: "Mel"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 07:36:21 AM
On Sun, 1 May 2005 10:00:23 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote
in message <d529bn$4tg$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>:

's all about the urge to procreate

no, i don't want kids. i just want to *****.

Neither do I, but thats a conscious choice, unconsciously your body wants to
make babies

fine. i admit wanting to squirt a copious quantity of semen into a woman's
vagina.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.

User: "=?UTF-8?B?TcOQ?= MÐ"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 03 May 2005 01:21:41 AM
kathryn wrote:

's all about the urge to procreate


no, i don't want kids. i just want to *****.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler


Neither do I, but thats a conscious choice, unconsciously your body wants
to make babies

Follow that instinct and let's crank 'em out..
.




User: "Ike"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 07:22:45 AM
"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message
news:r6t671plr8rpb6665gjtil819nqmfns9hr@4ax.com...

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:32:34 GMT, peachy ashie passion
<res1n5cb@invalid.net> wrote in message <67Cce.303$eC.293@trnddc07>:

Keith E. wrote:

yeah well... I'm impressed by the quality of junk cluttering up
your mental attic.

Wow, and you haven't even seen my pr0n collection!

And why haven't I?

I'm not easy.

*snort*
You mean you are ashamed.


ha ha ha.

*****, i watched this Christian program about people being redeemed from
porn
and sexual addiction.

first off, some jerk off announced that he doesn't believe in the concept
of
sexual addiction - it's a sin, plain and simple. everyone nodded their
heads, including the anchors.

that presented the anchors with quite a dilemma because they had all their
teleprompter lines referring to sexual addiction and now they had to try
and
integrate this new "knowledge" into the program and quit talking about
sexual addiction. they even had an entire section devoted to the topic of
sexual addiction, which they screened anyway. they never quite worked it
out.

then you had this pathetic litany of saps who were all eaten up inside
with
guilt and shame about the fact that they jerk off to Internet porn and
pick
up hookers (while being married to good Christian women who are simply
APPALLED at their mates' behaviour).

these fucking arseholes create a problem out of thin air and then spend an
enormous amount of pointless energy trying to solve it and deliver up
wholesome non-porn-lovin' good Christian men.

if you view pornography through the distorted lens of Christianity, you
will
instantly create a problem for yourself. a bogus problem. a hoax problem.
you will believe that masturbation is a sin. you will feel bad about
yourself and develop low self-esteem everytime you "slip up" and use porno
and masturbate to it.

the problem lies with Christian morals being completely out of step with
reality. that is the real problem. they are attempting to make water flow
uphill, but it don't work that way.

man is a sexual animal who desires to have intercourse with multiple
partners. that is what we are. Christianity acknowledges this, but then
goes
on to attribute this behaviour to a fallen nature which is "bad".

Christianity has a lot of negative ***** to say about the nature of the
"flesh". Christianity strives its damnest to denounce an essential part of
us as evil. from there, you just have problem after problem.

fact is, you can't change the nature of what we are. we are animals. as
primates, we behave like apes. we are apes. and we are promiscuous apes,
not
suited to living in monogamous relations. all the hoo haa about infidelity
in marriage is all bollocks. we are not designed to live monogamous lives.
we are designed to ***** as many partners as possible. this applies to both
men and women.

so the sooner men and women completely drop the expectation of sexual
fidelity to them and them alone, the better for society, because it will
lead to less friction, less outrage, less conflict, less unhappiness.

the concept of morality has not lead to a better society. it has produced
a
society of men and women who are not enjoying their lives to the fullest,
because a bunch of misguided religious fools got it wrong a long time ago,
and can't work it out. won't work it out.

So what age did you give up your virginity?
.
User: "Mel"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 02 May 2005 07:43:05 AM
On Sun, 01 May 2005 12:22:45 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com> wrote
in message <pS3de.3397$GQ5.2383@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>:

"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message

the concept of morality has not lead to a better society. it has produced
a society of men and women who are not enjoying their lives to the fullest,
because a bunch of misguided religious fools got it wrong a long time ago,
and can't work it out. won't work it out.

So what age did you give up your virginity?

it is impossible for a man to give up his virginity. he has no hymen to
break.
didn't your mom and dad tell you 'bout these things?
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.
User: "Ike"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 03 May 2005 07:18:52 AM
"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message
news:t18c711rn8sphjruqtvv12t855up12gnl7@4ax.com...

On Sun, 01 May 2005 12:22:45 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
wrote
in message <pS3de.3397$GQ5.2383@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>:

"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message

the concept of morality has not lead to a better society. it has
produced
a society of men and women who are not enjoying their lives to the
fullest,
because a bunch of misguided religious fools got it wrong a long time
ago,
and can't work it out. won't work it out.

So what age did you give up your virginity?


it is impossible for a man to give up his virginity. he has no hymen to
break.

didn't your mom and dad tell you 'bout these things?

It was a Rhetorical Question. Perhaps it would have been more correct to
ask, "When did you lose your Virgin?" RO, How old was the virgin when your
lost her?.
But if you assertion is 100% correct the whole movie starring Austin Powers
may have been based on a Falsie Premise.
.
User: "Mel"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 03 May 2005 10:41:01 AM
On Tue, 03 May 2005 12:18:52 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com> wrote
in message <M_Jde.4961$HL2.1070@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>:

"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message

On Sun, 01 May 2005 12:22:45 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>

"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message

the concept of morality has not lead to a better society. it has
produced
a society of men and women who are not enjoying their lives to the
fullest,
because a bunch of misguided religious fools got it wrong a long time
ago,
and can't work it out. won't work it out.

So what age did you give up your virginity?

it is impossible for a man to give up his virginity. he has no hymen to
break.
didn't your mom and dad tell you 'bout these things?

It was a Rhetorical Question.

no, it wasn't, you ignoramus. a rhetorial question is asked by someone who
then proceeds to answer it themselves, as in an article or speech. it
doesn't ask about something that only someone else has the answer for.
....dubya...

Perhaps it would have been more correct to
ask, "When did you lose your Virgin?" RO, How old was the virgin when your
lost her?.

you fucking idiot. come back when you have learnt to speak English and not
before.

But if you assertion is 100% correct the whole movie starring Austin Powers
may have been based on a Falsie Premise.

*****, *****.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.




User: "Webmaster"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 10:21:46 AM
In article <w66de.12135$XF3.10113@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:



"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote


's all about the urge to procreate


no, i don't want kids. i just want to *****.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler


Neither do I, but thats a conscious choice, unconsciously your body wants to
make babies


So that explains why Mel is so fucked up... he's supposedly a male but his
body wants to make babies. Do you suppose he has a menstrual cycle?
we could check Google history for that... nope, he's always a *****.

Yawn.
.
User: "Douglas D. Anderson"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 01 May 2005 10:33:21 AM
"Webmaster" <webmaster@responsal.net> wrote

In article <w66de.12135$XF3.10113@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:



"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote


's all about the urge to procreate


no, i don't want kids. i just want to *****.

--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler


Neither do I, but thats a conscious choice, unconsciously your body wants to
make babies


So that explains why Mel is so fucked up... he's supposedly a male but his
body wants to make babies. Do you suppose he has a menstrual cycle?
we could check Google history for that... nope, he's always a *****.



Yawn.

You go night night now, kathryn will make you a nice warm bottle.
.


User: "=?UTF-8?B?TcOQ?= MÐ"

Title: Re: porn and sexual addiction 30 Apr 2005 09:42:41 PM
Mel wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:32:34 GMT, peachy ashie passion
<res1n5cb@invalid.net> wrote in message <67Cce.303$eC.293@trnddc07>:

Keith E. wrote:

yeah well... I'm impressed by the quality of junk cluttering up
your mental attic.

Wow, and you haven't even seen my pr0n collection!

And why haven't I?

I'm not easy.

*snort*
You mean you are ashamed.


ha ha ha.

*****, i watched this Christian program about people being redeemed from
porn and sexual addiction.

first off, some jerk off announced that he doesn't believe in the concept
of sexual addiction - it's a sin, plain and simple. everyone nodded their
heads, including the anchors.

that presented the anchors with quite a dilemma because they had all their
teleprompter lines referring to sexual addiction and now they had to try
and integrate this new "knowledge" into the program and quit talking about
sexual addiction. they even had an entire section devoted to the topic of
sexual addiction, which they screened anyway. they never quite worked it
out.

then you had this pathetic litany of saps who were all eaten up inside
with guilt and shame about the fact that they jerk off to Internet porn
and pick up hookers (while being married to good Christian women who are
simply APPALLED at their mates' behaviour).

these fucking arseholes create a problem out of thin air and then spend an
enormous amount of pointless energy trying to solve it and deliver up
wholesome non-porn-lovin' good Christian men.

if you view pornography through the distorted lens of Christianity, you
will instantly create a problem for yourself. a bogus problem. a hoax
problem. you will believe that masturbation is a sin. you will feel bad
about yourself and develop low self-esteem everytime you "slip up" and use
porno and masturbate to it.

the problem lies with Christian morals being completely out of step with
reality. that is the real problem. they are attempting to make water flow
uphill, but it don't work that way.

man is a sexual animal who desires to have intercourse with multiple
partners. that is what we are. Christianity acknowledges this, but then
goes on to attribute this behaviour to a fallen nature which is "bad".

Christianity has a lot of negative ***** to say about the nature of the
"flesh". Christianity strives its damnest to denounce an essential part of
us as evil. from there, you just have problem after problem.

fact is, you can't change the nature of what we are. we are animals. as
primates, we behave like apes. we are apes. and we are promiscuous apes,
not suited to living in monogamous relations. all the hoo haa about
infidelity in marriage is all bollocks. we are not designed to live
monogamous lives. we are designed to ***** as many partners as possible.
this applies to both men and women.

so the sooner men and women completely drop the expectation of sexual
fidelity to them and them alone, the better for society, because it will
lead to less friction, less outrage, less conflict, less unhappiness.

the concept of morality has not lead to a better society. it has produced
a society of men and women who are not enjoying their lives to the
fullest, because a bunch of misguided religious fools got it wrong a long
time ago, and can't work it out. won't work it out.

Women have as much of a sex drive as men but are far less likely to get into
porn, mainly because they're not as visual-minded about sex as we are.
Though I myself am not yet married, I'd have to say the happiest, most well
adjusted people in society are people in a _good_ marriage. These days,
it's definitely harder to maintain a good marriage, mainly because morons
speak out against morals. What the ***** is wrong with committing to a
relationship and swearing (before God/people) that you'll uphold your
commitment, and then actually following through with it?
.


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