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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer"
Date: 28 May 2007 01:34:25 PM
Object: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost
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Before Anti-Christian (IL)Liberal Atheism was established as
America's official State religion in 1947 by decision of the
SCOTUS, Americans stood proud as a patriotic nation of brave
citizens. But those days, and those people, are all but dead
and gone. Whatever goodness that America stood for back then,
that's all but dead and gone, too...
"Memorial Day" has all but lost all of its meaning. Soldiers
no longer defend America as One Nation Under God, but defend
One Anti-Christian Liberal Atheist Nation Under Atheists and
Lawyers--under the Anti-Christian whims of venal judges--all
who exist solely for self-aggrandizement, and mammon-worship.
The so-called G.O.P. (nothing grand about ego and greed) are
all but dead in the water. Conservatives across America have
been utterly abandoned and disenfranchised by the Republican
party, such that, barring an incontrovertibly-divine miracle
from God Himself, we Conservatives are planning to stay home
for the next Presidential election Tuesday, November 4, 2008
anno Domini. If anything we'll vote for Hillary--and why not?
We survived eight years with the Clintons in the White House.
Why not four more years? Let's just finish outlawing Xianity
altogether. It's already illegal in America's classrooms and
courtrooms, and throughout all Local, City, State, & Federal
government in general. Let's just finish it, and get it over
with. Milquetoast "Christians" don't deserve to live anyways.
The glaring silence from the GOP, concerning the WAR against
the Anti-Christian Liberal Atheists, is absolutely deafening!
I definitely will not display my American flag this July 4th,
because what it used to symbolize is all but dead in America.
Ex-Republican,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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User: "curmudgeon"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 02:59:06 PM
"My country right or wrong'
Now who first said that?
Adolph Hitler or Josef Stalin?
Benedict Arnold or Robert E.Lee?
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 07:01:04 PM
On Mon, 28 May 2007 13:59:06 -0600, "curmudgeon"
<briticanlankey@bresnan.net> wrote:

"My country right or wrong'

Now who first said that?

Adolph Hitler or Josef Stalin?

Benedict Arnold or Robert E.Lee?

"Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always
be in the right; but our country, right or wrong."
Stephen Decatur (1779–1820), U.S. naval commander. Toast given at
Norfolk, April 1816.
I haven't found an earlier attribution.
.
User: "t1gercat"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 10:13:31 PM
On May 28, 8:01 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2007 13:59:06 -0600, "curmudgeon"

<briticanlan...@bresnan.net> wrote:

"My country right or wrong'


Now who first said that?


Adolph Hitler or Josef Stalin?


Benedict Arnold or Robert E.Lee?


"Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always
be in the right; but our country, right or wrong."

Stephen Decatur (1779-1820), U.S. naval commander. Toast given at
Norfolk, April 1816.

I haven't found an earlier attribution.

Decatur, one of America's greatest heros (a real one), died young in a
duel. Even heroes can be silly asses.
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 10:30:36 PM
On Mon, 28 May 2007 20:01:04 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2007 13:59:06 -0600, "curmudgeon"
<briticanlankey@bresnan.net> wrote:

"My country right or wrong'

Now who first said that?

Adolph Hitler or Josef Stalin?

Benedict Arnold or Robert E.Lee?

"Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations,

Explains why the Bush Administration has left so many nations
fucked...
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 10:46:18 PM
On Mon, 28 May 2007 20:01:04 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2007 13:59:06 -0600, "curmudgeon"
<briticanlankey@bresnan.net> wrote:

"My country right or wrong'

Now who first said that?

Adolph Hitler or Josef Stalin?

Benedict Arnold or Robert E.Lee?

"Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always
be in the right; but our country, right or wrong."

Stephen Decatur (1779–1820), U.S. naval commander. Toast given at
Norfolk, April 1816.

"Fredo, you're my brother, and I love you, but don't ever take sides
against The Family again."
Michael Corleone, Fictional "La Cosa Nostra" Don. Warning given in Las
Vegas, circa 1950.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
.



User: "Bill M"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 02:10:54 PM
Just more Christian/political *****!
"Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer" <anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote in
message news:8b1b8f23d9ac6f6edcde17f965fc430f@remailer.cyberiade.it...

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Before Anti-Christian (IL)Liberal Atheism was established as
America's official State religion in 1947 by decision of the
SCOTUS, Americans stood proud as a patriotic nation of brave
citizens. But those days, and those people, are all but dead
and gone. Whatever goodness that America stood for back then,
that's all but dead and gone, too...

"Memorial Day" has all but lost all of its meaning. Soldiers
no longer defend America as One Nation Under God, but defend
One Anti-Christian Liberal Atheist Nation Under Atheists and
Lawyers--under the Anti-Christian whims of venal judges--all
who exist solely for self-aggrandizement, and mammon-worship.

The so-called G.O.P. (nothing grand about ego and greed) are
all but dead in the water. Conservatives across America have
been utterly abandoned and disenfranchised by the Republican
party, such that, barring an incontrovertibly-divine miracle
from God Himself, we Conservatives are planning to stay home
for the next Presidential election Tuesday, November 4, 2008
anno Domini. If anything we'll vote for Hillary--and why not?
We survived eight years with the Clintons in the White House.
Why not four more years? Let's just finish outlawing Xianity
altogether. It's already illegal in America's classrooms and
courtrooms, and throughout all Local, City, State, & Federal
government in general. Let's just finish it, and get it over
with. Milquetoast "Christians" don't deserve to live anyways.

The glaring silence from the GOP, concerning the WAR against
the Anti-Christian Liberal Atheists, is absolutely deafening!
I definitely will not display my American flag this July 4th,
because what it used to symbolize is all but dead in America.

Ex-Republican,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 02:08:40 PM
On 28 May 2007 20:34:25 +0200, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
<anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:

Before Anti-Christian (IL)Liberal Atheism was established as
America's official State religion in 1947 by decision of the
SCOTUS, Americans stood proud as a patriotic nation of brave
citizens.

As long as they happened to be white, male, heterosexual Christians...
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
.
User: "Phlip"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 02:09:56 PM

Before Anti-Christian (IL)Liberal Atheism was established as
America's official State religion in 1947 by decision of the
SCOTUS, Americans stood proud as a patriotic nation of brave
citizens.


As long as they happened to be white, male, heterosexual Christians...

With adams apples... ;-)
--
Phlip
http://flea.sourceforge.net/PiglegToo_1.html
.
User: "udarrell"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 03:52:18 PM
Phlip wrote:

Before Anti-Christian (IL)Liberal Atheism was established as
America's official State religion in 1947 by decision of the
SCOTUS, Americans stood proud as a patriotic nation of brave
citizens.


As long as they happened to be white, male, heterosexual Christians...


With adams apples... ;-)


The feigning posturing hypocrite Right, and also some of the Left.
No president including the Democrats have followed the commandments of
Jesus Christ in respect to dealing with evil, enemies, war & terrorism!
Patriotism to what, the devils ways & means of killing and destruction?
- udarrell
--
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THE REAL POLITICAL ISSUES and WISDOM BASED PEOPLE EMPOWERMENT
http://www.udarrell.com/ ***
http://www.udarrell.com/my_pages2.htm
http://www.udarrell.com/recognizing_real_enemies.html ***
http://jesuschristsavior.net/Beatitudes.html
Reality Is Not An Easy Thing To Be Confronted With, or to Accept!
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 07:02:02 PM
On Mon, 28 May 2007 20:52:18 GMT, udarrell <anonymousl@anonymous.com>
wrote:

No president including the Democrats have followed the commandments of
Jesus Christ in respect to dealing with evil, enemies, war & terrorism!

Since the US is not a Christian theocracy, that's a good thing.
.


User: "udarrell"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 03:48:27 PM
Phlip wrote:

Before Anti-Christian (IL)Liberal Atheism was established as
America's official State religion in 1947 by decision of the
SCOTUS, Americans stood proud as a patriotic nation of brave
citizens.


As long as they happened to be white, male, heterosexual Christians...


With adams apples... ;-)


The feigning posturing hypocrite Right, and also some of the Left.
No president including the Democrats have followed the commandments of
Jesus Christ in respect to dealing with evil, enemies, war & terrorism!
- udarrell
--
WISDOM PRINCIPLE DIRECTED EMPOWERMENT COMMUNICATIONS -
THE REAL POLITICAL ISSUES and WISDOM BASED PEOPLE EMPOWERMENT
http://www.udarrell.com/ ***
http://www.udarrell.com/my_pages2.htm
http://www.udarrell.com/recognizing_real_enemies.html ***
http://jesuschristsavior.net/Beatitudes.html
Reality Is Not An Easy Thing To Be Confronted With, or to Accept!
.



User: "t1gercat"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 10:27:21 PM
On May 28, 2:34 pm, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
<anonym...@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:

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Before Anti-Christian (IL)Liberal Atheism was established as
America's official State religion in 1947 by decision of the
SCOTUS, Americans stood proud as a patriotic nation of brave
citizens. But those days, and those people, are all but dead
and gone. Whatever goodness that America stood for back then,
that's all but dead and gone, too...

That "patriotism" you're touting was largely a creation of the
Government's propaganda machine. Even after Pearl Harbor, there was a
lot of skepticism regarding the war in Europe, since most of the
sentient world knew they'd been snookered into horrible sacrifices for
no reason during the first war. The Roosevelt Administration pulled
every trick it could, including virtually drafting Hollywood to
portray the war as noble, our forces brave and invincible, and the
enemy evil but vulnerable. For the average GI, the war wasn't about
love of country; it was about the defeat of an evil force. With the
Axis in control of continental Europe, and Japan with an empire that
stretched from Manchuria to the Philippines, it was easy to get people
fired with enthusiasm for a war against forces that could devour us.
We mustered our citizenry, enlisted our industrial capacity and beat
the enemies in about 3 years. (With a lot of help from the Soviets,
the British, the Canadians, and others.)
Compare that to the war Iraq, which was fought for no noble purpose
against a powerless enemy and has resulted in five years of horror and
chaos. The real patriots today look upon our Iraq adventure with
disgust and shame. The Iraq war has blighted our history, stained our
honor and made the less safe and more cruel. A true patriot is
sickened by it and by those who brought it about.
Wexford, Patriot, Veteran, Liberal Democrat
.
User: "Unique"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 01 Jun 2007 05:41:17 PM
t1gercat <wexford1778@yahoo.com> wrote in message:
1180409241.472009.90540@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,

On May 28, 2:34 pm, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
<anonym...@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:

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Before Anti-Christian (IL)Liberal Atheism was established as
America's official State religion in 1947 by decision of the
SCOTUS, Americans stood proud as a patriotic nation of brave
citizens. But those days, and those people, are all but dead
and gone. Whatever goodness that America stood for back then,
that's all but dead and gone, too...


That "patriotism" you're touting was largely a creation of the
Government's propaganda machine. Even after Pearl Harbor, there was a
lot of skepticism regarding the war in Europe, since most of the
sentient world knew they'd been snookered into horrible sacrifices for
no reason during the first war. The Roosevelt Administration pulled
every trick it could, including virtually drafting Hollywood to
portray the war as noble, our forces brave and invincible, and the
enemy evil but vulnerable. For the average GI, the war wasn't about
love of country; it was about the defeat of an evil force. With the
Axis in control of continental Europe, and Japan with an empire that
stretched from Manchuria to the Philippines, it was easy to get people
fired with enthusiasm for a war against forces that could devour us.
We mustered our citizenry, enlisted our industrial capacity and beat
the enemies in about 3 years. (With a lot of help from the Soviets,
the British, the Canadians, and others.)

Compare that to the war Iraq, which was fought for no noble purpose
against a powerless enemy and has resulted in five years of horror and
chaos. The real patriots today look upon our Iraq adventure with
disgust and shame. The Iraq war has blighted our history, stained our
honor and made the less safe and more cruel. A true patriot is
sickened by it and by those who brought it about.

Wexford, Patriot, Veteran, Liberal Democrat

American patriotism wasn't lost. It was squandered by a bunch of
ideologues and craven politicians.
--
DVDs for sale: http://unique-dvd.com
165 Banned Cartoons, The Unknown War, Centennial Miniseries,
Holocaust, Masada, Amerika, Space, George Washington, Anzacs,
Marco Polo, Captains and the Kings, Peter the Great, Noble House,
and more...
.


User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: Post-WWII: Patriotism Lost 28 May 2007 09:24:23 PM
in article 8b1b8f23d9ac6f6edcde17f965fc430f@remailer.cyberiade.it,
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer at
wrote on
5/28/07 2:34 PM:

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Before Anti-Christian (IL)Liberal Atheism was established as
America's official State religion in 1947 by decision of the
SCOTUS, Americans stood proud as a patriotic nation of brave
citizens.

Who stood six deep in line to pay money for their horoscopes...
Paul
.


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