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31 Jan 2006 10:37:16 AM |
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Postal workers |
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus other
jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for the
USPS, but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract mentally
ill people? Is there something toxic in their work environment, like the
"mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury with which they worked?
What gives?
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| Title: Re: Postal workers |
31 Jan 2006 11:20:56 AM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.31.16.36.58.296247@stopspam.net...
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus other
jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for the
USPS, but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract mentally
ill people? Is there something toxic in their work environment, like the
"mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury with which they worked?
What gives?
<quoting Newman>
"Because the mail never stops. It just keeps coming and coming..."
LC~ Worked a temporary gig during the holidays at the USPS whilst in
college.
"The universe is not in the habit of giving us something for nothing."~
Aldous Huxley
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| User: "David H." |
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| Title: Re: Postal workers |
31 Jan 2006 11:21:26 AM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.31.16.36.58.296247@stopspam.net...
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus other
jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for the
USPS, but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract
mentally
ill people? Is there something toxic in their work environment, like
the
"mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury with which they worked?
What gives?
A brief history of Postal Postal Workers:
Jan. 30, 2006 - A female ex-postal worker opens fire at a mail
processing plant near Santa Barbara, Calif., killing six people before
committing suicide, authorities say.
April 17, 1998 - Maceo Yarbough III, a 27-year-old letter carrier,
fatally shoots a post office clerk in Dallas after they argue in a break
room. He is found not guilty of murder by reason of insanity.
Sept. 2, 1997 - Jesus Antonio Tamayo, a 21-year postal veteran, leaves
his counter at a Miami Beach, Fla., post office, gets a gun from his
car, walks back in and critically wounds his ex-wife and a friend, who
were waiting in line. Tamayo, 64, then goes outside and kills himself.
July 9, 1995 - Bruce William Clark walks up to his boss in a processing
center in City of Industry, Calif., pulls a handgun from a paper bag and
shoots him to death. Clark, 58, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder
and was sentenced in 1996 to 22 years in prison.
March 21, 1995 - Christopher Green, 29, a former postal worker burdened
with "a mountain of debt," kills four people and wounds another during a
holdup at the Montclair, N.J., post office. Green was sentenced to life
in prison in September 1995.
May 6, 1993 - Postal worker Larry Jasion kills one and wounds two at the
post office garage in Dearborn, Mich., before killing himself.
May 6, 1993 - Fired postal employee Mark Richard Hilbun kills his
mother, then walks into a post office in the Dana Point community near
Los Angeles and shoots two workers, killing one. He was convicted of
murder, attempted murder and other felonies and sentenced to life in
prison.
Nov. 14, 1991 - Fired postal worker Thomas McIlvane kills four
supervisors and wounds five employees at a post office in Royal Oak,
Mich., and then killed himself.
Oct. 11, 1991 - Joseph M. Harris, a fired postal worker, kills a former
supervisor and her boyfriend at their home in Wayne, N.J., then goes to
the Ridgewood post office where he kills two mail handlers as they
arrive for work. He was sentenced to death and was on death row when he
died in 1996 after suffering a seizure in his cell.
Aug. 10, 1989 - Postal worker John Merlin Taylor of Escondido, Calif.,
shoots and kills his wife at their home, then drives to the Orange Glen
post office, where he shoots and kills two colleagues and wounds another
before killing himself.
Aug. 20, 1986 - Patrick Henry Sherrill, a part-time letter carrier in
Edmond, Okla., kills 14 people in the post office there before taking
his own life. Sherrill had a history of work problems and faced the
possibility of being fired.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: Postal workers |
31 Jan 2006 11:09:40 AM |
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"David H." <davidhaapala@sbcglobal.fart.not.net> wrote in message
news:q0NDf.48841$PL5.12397@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
A brief history of Postal Postal Workers:
Jan. 30, 2006 - A female ex-postal worker opens fire at a mail processing
plant near Santa Barbara, Calif., killing six people before committing
suicide, authorities say.
April 17, 1998 - Maceo Yarbough III, a 27-year-old letter carrier, fatally
shoots a post office clerk in Dallas after they argue in a break room. He
is found not guilty of murder by reason of insanity.
So there's been an 8-year hiatus? Seems the distraction of Iraq
is wearing off.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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31 Jan 2006 11:06:34 AM |
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"David H." <davidhaapala@sbcglobal.fart.not.net> wrote in message
news:q0NDf.48841$PL5.12397@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
snip
Oct. 11, 1991 - Joseph M. Harris, a fired postal worker, kills a former
supervisor and her boyfriend at their home in Wayne, N.J., then goes to
the Ridgewood post office where he kills two mail handlers as they arrive
for work. He was sentenced to death and was on death row when he died in
1996 after suffering a seizure in his cell.
Oh boy, do I remember this one. I live right by Ridgewood.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "MarkA" |
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31 Jan 2006 11:41:47 AM |
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:21:26 +0000, David H. wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.31.16.36.58.296247@stopspam.net...
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus other
jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for the USPS,
but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract mentally
ill people? Is there something toxic in their work environment, like
the
"mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury with which they worked?
What gives?
A brief history of Postal Postal Workers:
<snip>
Thank you for a nice summary; I will assume that it is accurate. The
question is, does this represent a higher-than-average number of
murder/suicides for one particular type of work or government agency? I
don't hear of IRS accountants killing people (not in a literal sense,
anyway), or mine workers. Does working for the USPS make you more likely
to wind up shooting someone?
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "David H." |
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| Title: Re: Postal workers |
31 Jan 2006 01:31:28 PM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.31.17.41.29.921955@stopspam.net...
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:21:26 +0000, David H. wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.31.16.36.58.296247@stopspam.net...
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really
more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus
other
jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for the
USPS,
but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract mentally
ill people? Is there something toxic in their work environment,
like
the
"mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury with which they worked?
What gives?
A brief history of Postal Postal Workers:
<snip>
Thank you for a nice summary; I will assume that it is accurate. The
question is, does this represent a higher-than-average number of
murder/suicides for one particular type of work or government agency?
I
don't hear of IRS accountants killing people (not in a literal sense,
anyway), or mine workers. Does working for the USPS make you more
likely
to wind up shooting someone?
I found this site: http://www.crimedoctor.com/workplace_violence_2.htm
It doesn't have Postal Workers making the list - but that is probably
due to them not being part of the statistics collection.
These are listed as "high-risk occupation categories".
I hope the chart comes out readable:
The rate of violence per 1,000 workers during the five-year period
studied was as follows:
Occupation Rate Victims
Law Enforcement Officers 306 234,000
Prison or Jail Corrections Officers 218 58,300
Taxi Drivers 184 16,100
Private Security Guards 117 71,100
Bartenders 91 26,400
Mental Health Professionals 80 50,300
Gas Station Attendants 79 15,500
Convenience or Liquor Store Clerks 68 61,500
Mental Health Custodial Workers 63 8,700
Junior High/Middle School Teachers 57 47,300
Bus Drivers 45 17,200
Special Education Teachers 41 9,000
High School Teachers 29 33,300
Elementary School Teachers 16 35,400
College or University Instructors 3 6,600
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Here's an interresting read. I wish they could have broken it down for
us, but you can't always get what you want...
Inside the minds of workplace killers:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/workplace/2004-07-14-workplace-killings_x.htm
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I could not find a quick reference to killings by profession, but I
found this text file, ( format in browser hard to read - suggest
download and open with favorite text viewer).
http://nsi.org/Tips/workdeth.txt
That's about all I could come up with in the limited time I have at
this moment.
David H.
aa #2217
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| User: "MarkA" |
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31 Jan 2006 04:17:30 PM |
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:31:28 +0000, David H. wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.31.17.41.29.921955@stopspam.net...
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:21:26 +0000, David H. wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.31.16.36.58.296247@stopspam.net...
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus other
jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for the
USPS,
but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract mentally ill
people? Is there something toxic in their work environment, like
the
"mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury with which they worked?
What gives?
A brief history of Postal Postal Workers:
<snip>
Thank you for a nice summary; I will assume that it is accurate. The
question is, does this represent a higher-than-average number of
murder/suicides for one particular type of work or government agency? I
don't hear of IRS accountants killing people (not in a literal sense,
anyway), or mine workers. Does working for the USPS make you more
likely
to wind up shooting someone?
I found this site: http://www.crimedoctor.com/workplace_violence_2.htm It
doesn't have Postal Workers making the list - but that is probably due to
them not being part of the statistics collection. These are listed as
"high-risk occupation categories".
I hope the chart comes out readable:
The rate of violence per 1,000 workers during the five-year period studied
was as follows:
Occupation Rate Victims
Law Enforcement Officers 306 234,000
Prison or Jail Corrections Officers 218 58,300 Taxi Drivers 184
16,100
Private Security Guards 117 71,100
Bartenders 91 26,400
Mental Health Professionals 80 50,300 Gas Station Attendants 79
15,500
Convenience or Liquor Store Clerks 68 61,500 Mental Health Custodial
Workers 63 8,700 Junior High/Middle School Teachers 57 47,300 Bus
Drivers 45 17,200
Special Education Teachers 41 9,000
High School Teachers 29 33,300
Elementary School Teachers 16 35,400
College or University Instructors 3 6,600
This list is skewed toward people who are the victims of violence from
their customers/clients. Postal workers seem to be more at risk from
(often former) co-workers.
***********************************************************************
Here's an interresting read. I wish they could have broken it down for
us, but you can't always get what you want...
Inside the minds of workplace killers:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/workplace/2004-07-14-workplace-killings_x.htm
********************************************************************************
I could not find a quick reference to killings by profession, but I
found this text file, ( format in browser hard to read - suggest
download and open with favorite text viewer).
http://nsi.org/Tips/workdeth.txt
That's about all I could come up with in the limited time I have at
this moment.
David H.
aa #2217
Thanks for the links.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Postal workers |
31 Jan 2006 10:43:14 AM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.31.16.36.58.296247@stopspam.net...
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus other
jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for the
USPS, but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract mentally
ill people? Is there something toxic in their work environment, like the
"mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury with which they worked?
What gives?
I was thinking pretty much the same thing this morning when I saw this on
the news. What the heck is going on? Maybe at this point it's almost a
copycat kind of thing. "Well, we're expected to "go postal", so why the
heck not?"
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: Postal workers |
31 Jan 2006 12:18:47 PM |
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In article <pan.2006.01.31.16.36.58.296247@stopspam.net>, MarkA
<manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus other
jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for the
USPS, but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract mentally
ill people? Is there something toxic in their work environment, like the
"mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury with which they worked?
What gives?
This incident happened just a few miles from me, so I had occasion to
ponder the same question this morning.
Mind you, this is pure speculation and just my opinion, but I DO think
the Postal Service attracts the kind of person who has a sense of
entitlement mingled with hopelessness. (This is absolutely NOT true of
ALL Postal Service employees, but of enough of them to have created
this cultural stereotype about USPS workers in general.)
Many people who apply for USPS jobs are already in dead-end jobs (or
are unemployed and desperate) and are choosing the USPS in the same way
a kid out of high school with no prospects and perhaps not the most
stellar mental abilities chooses the military; it's a respectable job
with good pay and even better benefits and it beats the hell out of the
graveyard shift at 7-11.
Nobody that I knew in school ever said they wanted to grow up and
become mailmen. Yet several of them did in fact become them. Because
they had no other options.
Once they're hired, they get to wear the uniforms, drive the official
vehicles, and have a lot of influence over everyone from the flower
girl on the corner to the CEOs of major corporations. It's a heady rush
for people who were virtually invisible before. When you take this away
from them (as happened to the alleged gunwoman), they snap, and, well,
"go postal."
I tend to think this "little Hitler syndrome" is a big factor in
incidents like the one in Goleta last night.
$.39 deposited.
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "." |
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01 Feb 2006 03:12:15 AM |
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"chibiabos" <chibiabos@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:310120061018479554%chibiabos@nospam.com...
In article <pan.2006.01.31.16.36.58.296247@stopspam.net>, MarkA
<manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus other
jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for the
USPS, but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract mentally
ill people? Is there something toxic in their work environment, like the
"mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury with which they worked?
What gives?
This incident happened just a few miles from me, so I had occasion to
ponder the same question this morning.
Mind you, this is pure speculation and just my opinion, but I DO think
the Postal Service attracts the kind of person who has a sense of
entitlement mingled with hopelessness. (This is absolutely NOT true of
ALL Postal Service employees, but of enough of them to have created
this cultural stereotype about USPS workers in general.)
Many people who apply for USPS jobs are already in dead-end jobs (or
are unemployed and desperate) and are choosing the USPS in the same way
a kid out of high school with no prospects and perhaps not the most
stellar mental abilities chooses the military; it's a respectable job
with good pay and even better benefits and it beats the hell out of the
graveyard shift at 7-11.
Nobody that I knew in school ever said they wanted to grow up and
become mailmen. Yet several of them did in fact become them. Because
they had no other options.
Once they're hired, they get to wear the uniforms, drive the official
vehicles, and have a lot of influence over everyone from the flower
girl on the corner to the CEOs of major corporations. It's a heady rush
for people who were virtually invisible before. When you take this away
from them (as happened to the alleged gunwoman), they snap, and, well,
"go postal."
I tend to think this "little Hitler syndrome" is a big factor in
incidents like the one in Goleta last night.
$.39 deposited.
-chib
--
Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
You've hit the nail right on it's head, it's a known fact that many molested
children become molesters themselves as they become adults. The abused tend
to become abusers.
Here's my latest experience with these retards:
-Nov. 8 2005- I found a note in my mailbox saying I had an Express Mail
package that required my signature.
-Nov, 9- I went to the local P.O. to retrieve the package, the moron at the
pickup window tells me that it was available for pickup AFTER Nov. 9.
-Nov. 10- The same idiot tells me that the package was still in the
carrier's possession and to try again the next day, it'll be there for sure.
-Nov. 11- 2 PM, The Monument-of-Stupidity says the package was not there,
probably still in the carrier's possession and tells me to return at 6:15
PM. I ask if they would still be open at that time and he confirms, the side
door would be open.
-Nov. 11-5:55 PM. Having doubts about the retard's integrity and good faith,
I show up a little early and get inside just in time, the door is locked at
6:00 PM sharp. I knock on his closed window several times just to hear him
giggling behind it. I ask to see the supervisor and she comes after five
minutes with a big stupid smile on her face and tells me that the package
had been sent back on Nov. 9, because I had moved out (??!?!#%&*>!?)!
I asked: "So if the carrier believed I had moved out, why bother leaving a
note in my mailbox? Why didn't the Piece-of ***** at the Pickup Window tell
me this and made me return three times? Why did he tell me to come at 6:15,
when he knew the door is locked at 6:00?"
Answer: She shrugs her shoulders and gives me the stupidest smile ever seen
in the history of mankind.
After having filed the necessary complaints I got ZERO answers.
My word of advice to all postal workers: Go ahead, do yourselves in, you can
take some of your colleagues and supervisors with you, start with the
smiling ones!
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31 Jan 2006 06:33:12 PM |
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chibiabos wrote:
In article <pan.2006.01.31.16.36.58.296247@stopspam.net>, MarkA
<manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus
other jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for
the
USPS, but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract
mentally ill people? Is there something toxic in their work
environment, like the "mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury
with which they worked?
What gives?
This incident happened just a few miles from me, so I had occasion to
ponder the same question this morning.
Mind you, this is pure speculation and just my opinion, but I DO think
the Postal Service attracts the kind of person who has a sense of
entitlement mingled with hopelessness. (This is absolutely NOT true of
ALL Postal Service employees, but of enough of them to have created
this cultural stereotype about USPS workers in general.)
I don't know where you live or whwere this idea came from but the people at
my post office are a varied lot and seem quitre happy with their jobs.
I've known quite a few of them and they were from all walks of life. A few
had really high stress jobs and became mailmen because you get your mail,
you are alone, you deliver it and you go home. If you can deliver 8 hours of
mail in 4 hours you get paid for 8 and still go home after 4.
The relative newness of the term suggests that the USPS's claim that they
have no more incidents than other such employer's is probably true. I
suspect it came about simply because of the first major incident.
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01 Feb 2006 01:05:32 PM |
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In article <clTDf.21345$Jd.4553@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, Mike
Painter <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
chibiabos wrote:
In article <pan.2006.01.31.16.36.58.296247@stopspam.net>, MarkA
<manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus
other jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for
the
USPS, but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract
mentally ill people? Is there something toxic in their work
environment, like the "mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury
with which they worked?
What gives?
This incident happened just a few miles from me, so I had occasion to
ponder the same question this morning.
Mind you, this is pure speculation and just my opinion, but I DO think
the Postal Service attracts the kind of person who has a sense of
entitlement mingled with hopelessness. (This is absolutely NOT true of
ALL Postal Service employees, but of enough of them to have created
this cultural stereotype about USPS workers in general.)
I don't know where you live
Santa Barbara, California. A couple miles from the Goleta shooting.
or whwere this idea came from but the people at
my post office are a varied lot and seem quitre happy with their jobs.
My remarks were pure speculation based on some personal experiences
(no, I never worked for the USPS). There is no science involved, just
uninformed opinion.
I've known quite a few of them and they were from all walks of life. A few
had really high stress jobs and became mailmen because you get your mail,
you are alone, you deliver it and you go home. If you can deliver 8 hours of
mail in 4 hours you get paid for 8 and still go home after 4.
Letter carriers in my area are periodically followed by supervisors to
make sure they are able to complete their routes in the specified time.
One carrier told me a few years ago that he used to finish his route
early and go home, until his supervisor found out and added more stops
to it.
I've noticed that when a substitute carrier (apparently unfamiliar with
the route) delivers my mail, it's a couple hours late.
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Tink" |
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31 Jan 2006 05:43:33 PM |
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MarkA wrote:
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus other
jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for the
USPS, but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract mentally
ill people? Is there something toxic in their work environment, like the
"mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury with which they worked?
What gives?
It's the management. The union is so strong that it's nearly impossible
to fire defective employees. Therefore the management harasses them
until they quit. Occasionally a few of them snap. This is from a
friend who has worked for USPS for thirty years. Given the incompetence
of most USPS employees I encounter, it's quite possible he's right.
--
Skydivers don't knock on death's door; they ring the bell and run
away... It really pisses him off.
The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS# 8808
EAC Chairman, Division of Skydiving and Sushi consumption.
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31 Jan 2006 04:52:55 PM |
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:37:16 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
OK, I give up. What is it with postal workers? Are they really more
likely to shoot up their co-workers, then commit suicide, versus other
jobs? If so, what makes them that way? I've never worked for the
USPS, but I can't imagine it's THAT bad. Does the USPS attract mentally
ill people? Is there something toxic in their work environment, like the
"mad hatters" being poisoned by the mercury with which they worked?
What gives?
There is a theory that a tiny percentage of the population is made up
of people with mental health issues who also own guns.
Given that, any chunk of the population has some odds of having
someone who will reach a breaking point and shoot people.
Considering that the USPS is such a large employer, they consist of a
large chunk of the population.
Other large corporations have had people snap and shoot others. But
the post office is huge and gets the most publicity. Perhaps the
effect is enhanced by the fact that the USPS is so close and public,
as opposed, say, to some unknown industry, say, supplying hydrogen to
the military.
And the popular term "going postal" doesn't help. It's one of the
unfortunate inaccuracies that feed the fire.
Also, nobody publishes data on how many postal workers have not
assaulted anyone.
I have no proof or cites, this is just what I remember after
discussing it with many and reading many articles.
Banning guns is no answer.
Some answers may lie in recognizing and treating human stress but
corporations are not good at that. And there is no way of really
knowing who's on the edge. It just cannot be done. We should be glad
it happens so rarely.
Sunyata
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<Sunyata@wastherain.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:37:16 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
And the popular term "going postal" doesn't help. It's one of the
unfortunate inaccuracies that feed the fire.
Sunyata
there is a PC game called "postal"
i love it.
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