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"BroDavii" |
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04 Oct 2007 06:13:08 PM |
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Posthuman God |
How many atheists out there believe in the Posthuman God?
I personally believe that man has the foresight, intellect, and
imagination to eventually create or become a sentient being far
greater than the current limitations of modern man.
It's not too much of a stretch when you look at what we have
accomplished so far. We have mastered the art of flight, breached the
barriers of space to explore worlds and galaxies thousands of light
years away, created electrical representations of the world around us
to the point where we can fool our own senses into seeing objects on
the other side of the world in real time, and even doubled the average
lifespan of a human. We have even created anti-matter from literally
a vacuum.
Furthermore, if string theory is even remotely correct, then all
dimensions, spatial and temporal, are all circular.
Couldn't, then, MultiVac be God? (I refer, of course, to Isaac
Asimov's 'Last Question') Why can't we create a Posthuman God that
returns the favor by creating us?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
04 Oct 2007 06:41:09 PM |
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"BroDavii" <mdburro@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191539588.173849.307910@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
How many atheists out there believe in the Posthuman God?
I don't believe in any gods.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
05 Oct 2007 01:01:01 AM |
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BroDavii <mdburro@gmail.com> wrote:
How many atheists out there believe in the Posthuman God?
Duh... What do you think the Flying Spaghetti Monster is?
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
04 Oct 2007 08:37:35 PM |
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In article <1191539588.173849.307910
@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, BroDavii said...
How many atheists out there believe in the Posthuman God?
I personally believe that man has the foresight, intellect, and
imagination to eventually create or become a sentient being far
greater than the current limitations of modern man.
Isaac Asimov already wrote that story. It's called
"The Last Question."
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
05 Oct 2007 12:31:49 AM |
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:37:35 -0400, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
In article <1191539588.173849.307910
@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, BroDavii said...
How many atheists out there believe in the Posthuman God?
I personally believe that man has the foresight, intellect, and
imagination to eventually create or become a sentient being far
greater than the current limitations of modern man.
Isaac Asimov already wrote that story. It's called
"The Last Question."
I see it as a laboured and plodding version of Arthur C. Clarke's:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
magic."
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
05 Oct 2007 12:27:22 AM |
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:37:35 -0400, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
In article <1191539588.173849.307910
@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, BroDavii said...
How many atheists out there believe in the Posthuman God?
I personally believe that man has the foresight, intellect, and
imagination to eventually create or become a sentient being far
greater than the current limitations of modern man.
Isaac Asimov already wrote that story. It's called
"The Last Question."
So did Douglas Adams. The computer was Deep Thought. But even that
wasn't powerful enough so another was built.....the Earth.
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| User: "William Wingstedt" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
05 Oct 2007 01:03:52 AM |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:13:08 -0000, BroDavii <mdburro@gmail.com>
wrote:
How many atheists out there believe in the Posthuman God?
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I personally believe that man has the foresight, intellect, and
imagination to eventually create or become a sentient being far
greater than the current limitations of modern man.
It's not too much of a stretch when you look at what we have
accomplished so far. We have mastered the art of flight, breached the
barriers of space to explore worlds and galaxies thousands of light
years away, created electrical representations of the world around us
to the point where we can fool our own senses into seeing objects on
the other side of the world in real time, and even doubled the average
lifespan of a human. We have even created anti-matter from literally
a vacuum.
Furthermore, if string theory is even remotely correct, then all
dimensions, spatial and temporal, are all circular.
Couldn't, then, MultiVac be God? (I refer, of course, to Isaac
Asimov's 'Last Question') Why can't we create a Posthuman God that
returns the favor by creating us?
We are the gods we imagine. The reason we cannot presently do many of
the real cool godlike things attributed to the vast pantheonic array
of gods that are imagined is that there is no such thing as gods.
Therefore, we must learn to do these things the old fashioned way, as
apes.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
04 Oct 2007 06:18:48 PM |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:13:08 -0000, BroDavii <mdburro@gmail.com>
wrote:
How many atheists out there believe in the Posthuman God?
What "THE Posthuman God"?
Try not to use the definite article which implies an unjustified
presumption.
But in any case, if they believed in any god at all they would be
theist not atheist.
I personally believe that man has the foresight, intellect, and
imagination to eventually create or become a sentient being far
greater than the current limitations of modern man.
It's not too much of a stretch when you look at what we have
accomplished so far. We have mastered the art of flight, breached the
barriers of space to explore worlds and galaxies thousands of light
years away, created electrical representations of the world around us
to the point where we can fool our own senses into seeing objects on
the other side of the world in real time, and even doubled the average
lifespan of a human. We have even created anti-matter from literally
a vacuum.
Furthermore, if string theory is even remotely correct, then all
dimensions, spatial and temporal, are all circular.
Couldn't, then, MultiVac be God? (I refer, of course, to Isaac
Asimov's 'Last Question') Why can't we create a Posthuman God that
returns the favor by creating us?
Why feel the need to call anything "God"?
Why not just call it what it is?
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
04 Oct 2007 09:30:51 PM |
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"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:r2tag3hd4kam7gc65b4t548if4g9f7jlss@4ax.com...
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:13:08 -0000, BroDavii <mdburro@gmail.com>
wrote:
How many atheists out there believe in the Posthuman God?
What "THE Posthuman God"?
Try not to use the definite article which implies an unjustified
presumption.
But in any case, if they believed in any god at all they would be
theist not atheist.
I personally believe that man has the foresight, intellect, and
imagination to eventually create or become a sentient being far
greater than the current limitations of modern man.
It's not too much of a stretch when you look at what we have
accomplished so far. We have mastered the art of flight, breached the
barriers of space to explore worlds and galaxies thousands of light
years away, created electrical representations of the world around us
to the point where we can fool our own senses into seeing objects on
the other side of the world in real time, and even doubled the average
lifespan of a human. We have even created anti-matter from literally
a vacuum.
Furthermore, if string theory is even remotely correct, then all
dimensions, spatial and temporal, are all circular.
Couldn't, then, MultiVac be God? (I refer, of course, to Isaac
Asimov's 'Last Question') Why can't we create a Posthuman God that
returns the favor by creating us?
Why feel the need to call anything "God"?
Why not just call it what it is?
I think what BroDavii is getting at is that mankind is learning more and
more about things around us at an ever increasing rate.
Sometime in the distant future it's _possible_ that mankind (or our
successors) will know everything.
Hence mankind (not individual people) will be omniscient and omnipotent
(within the laws of physics), making mankind the equivalent of a god.
Post-human god is not how I would describe it, though.
I, however, wouldn't like to live in those times, when there are no
unanswered questions, nothing left to discover and nothing new to
experience.
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
05 Oct 2007 12:30:42 AM |
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:30:51 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:r2tag3hd4kam7gc65b4t548if4g9f7jlss@4ax.com...
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:13:08 -0000, BroDavii <mdburro@gmail.com>
wrote:
How many atheists out there believe in the Posthuman God?
What "THE Posthuman God"?
Try not to use the definite article which implies an unjustified
presumption.
But in any case, if they believed in any god at all they would be
theist not atheist.
I personally believe that man has the foresight, intellect, and
imagination to eventually create or become a sentient being far
greater than the current limitations of modern man.
It's not too much of a stretch when you look at what we have
accomplished so far. We have mastered the art of flight, breached the
barriers of space to explore worlds and galaxies thousands of light
years away, created electrical representations of the world around us
to the point where we can fool our own senses into seeing objects on
the other side of the world in real time, and even doubled the average
lifespan of a human. We have even created anti-matter from literally
a vacuum.
Furthermore, if string theory is even remotely correct, then all
dimensions, spatial and temporal, are all circular.
Couldn't, then, MultiVac be God? (I refer, of course, to Isaac
Asimov's 'Last Question') Why can't we create a Posthuman God that
returns the favor by creating us?
Why feel the need to call anything "God"?
Why not just call it what it is?
I think what BroDavii is getting at is that mankind is learning more and
more about things around us at an ever increasing rate.
Sometime in the distant future it's _possible_ that mankind (or our
successors) will know everything.
Hence mankind (not individual people) will be omniscient and omnipotent
(within the laws of physics), making mankind the equivalent of a god.
Post-human god is not how I would describe it, though.
I, however, wouldn't like to live in those times, when there are no
unanswered questions, nothing left to discover and nothing new to
experience.
I see it as a laboured plodding version of Arthur C Clarke's "
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| User: "BroDavii" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
04 Oct 2007 06:52:46 PM |
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On Oct 4, 4:18 pm, Christopher A.Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:13:08 -0000, BroDavii <mdbu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
How many atheists out there believe in the Posthuman God?
What "THE Posthuman God"?
Try not to use the definite article which implies an unjustified
presumption.
But in any case, if they believed in any god at all they would be
theist not atheist.
I personally believe that man has the foresight, intellect, and
imagination to eventually create or become a sentient being far
greater than the current limitations of modern man.
It's not too much of a stretch when you look at what we have
accomplished so far. We have mastered the art of flight, breached the
barriers of space to explore worlds and galaxies thousands of light
years away, created electrical representations of the world around us
to the point where we can fool our own senses into seeing objects on
the other side of the world in real time, and even doubled the average
lifespan of a human. We have even created anti-matter from literally
a vacuum.
Furthermore, if string theory is even remotely correct, then all
dimensions, spatial and temporal, are all circular.
Couldn't, then, MultiVac be God? (I refer, of course, to Isaac
Asimov's 'Last Question') Why can't we create a Posthuman God that
returns the favor by creating us?
Why feel the need to call anything "God"?
Why not just call it what it is?
Because it doesn't exist yet, we have to make it. I only call it a
God cause it has abilities we can not at the present moment understand
or utilize. Really, its just something people will make in the future
that can't be conceived in the present
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
04 Oct 2007 07:18:43 PM |
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On Oct 5, 9:52 am, BroDavii <mdbu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Because it doesn't exist yet, we have to make it. I only call it a
God cause it has abilities we can not at the present moment understand
or utilize. Really, its just something people will make in the future
that can't be conceived in the present.
That would make us all gods in comparison to people who died before
1960.
It's speculation, that's all it is. For all we know a meteor could
crash in to Earth tomorrow, or a virus could come along and wipe out
98% of the world's population on May 27, 2009, setting mankind back a
good couple of millenia. Interesting to think about, but just
speculation.
-DD-
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Posthuman God |
04 Oct 2007 09:43:34 PM |
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:52:46 -0000, BroDavii <mdburro@gmail.com>
wrote:
Really, its just something people will make in the future
that can't be conceived in the present
And you know this how?
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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