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Eris wrote:
I was going to pose the question "Why are breasts considered obscene
by American Christians and World Wide Muslims." The Christnet forums
seemed to be more full of trolls than do our forum. Anywhere I could
get a straight answer from the religious community?
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle,
than to receive a straight answer, from a religious community.
Yea, verily I saith to ye,
feed the wretched dogmatists some of their own tail,
Here are some OT citations which contain the term 'breast".
The NT, on the peace an love gayside of the Bible,
with that fishing for men, and exposing of the other cheeks,
seems to be rather slim in breast citations,
The first citation's description
of a man dying at full strength,
and his milk filled breasts is disconcerting.
Then there is Solomon's spikenard,
which 'sendeth forth the smell thereof'.
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Job 21
17 How oft is the candle of the wicked put out!
and how oft cometh their destruction upon them!
God distributeth sorrows in his anger.
18 They are as stubble before the wind,
and as chaff that the storm carrieth away.
19 God layeth up his iniquity for his children:
he rewardeth him, and he shall know it.
20 His eyes shall see his destruction,
and he shall drink of the wrath of the Almighty.
21 For what pleasure hath he in his house after him,
when the number of his months is cut off in the midst?
22 Shall any teach God knowledge?
seeing he judgeth those that are high.
23 One dieth in his full strength,
being wholly at ease and quiet.
24 His breasts are full of milk,
and his bones are moistened with marrow.
25 And another dieth in the bitterness of his soul,
and never eateth with pleasure.
26 They shall lie down alike in the dust,
and the worms shall cover them.
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Proverbs 5
15 Drink waters out of thine own cistern,
and running waters out of thine own well.
16 Let thy fountains be dispersed abroad,
and rivers of waters in the streets.
17 Let them be only thine own,
and not strangers' with thee.
18 Let thy fountain be blessed:
and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.
19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe;
let her breasts satisfy thee at all times;
and be thou ravished always with her love.
20 And why wilt thou, my son,
be ravished with a strange woman,
and embrace the bosom of a stranger?
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Solomon 1
12 While the king sitteth at his table,
my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof.
13 A bundle of myrrh is my wellbeloved unto me;
he shall lie all night betwixt my breasts.
14 My beloved is unto me as a cluster of camphire
in the vineyards of Engedi.
15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair;
thou hast doves' eyes.
16 Behold, thou art fair, my beloved, yea, pleasant:
also our bed is green.
17 The beams of our house are cedar, and our rafters of fir.
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Song of Solomon 4
1 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair;
thou hast doves' eyes within thy locks:
thy hair is as a flock of goats, that appear from mount Gilead.
2 Thy teeth are like a flock of sheep that are even shorn,
which came up from the washing; whereof every one bear twins,
and none is barren among them.
3 Thy lips are like a thread of scarlet,
and thy speech is comely:
thy temples are like a piece of a pomegranate
within thy locks.
4 Thy neck is like the tower of David builded for an armoury,
whereon there hang a thousand bucklers,
all shields of mighty men.
5 Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins,
which feed among the lilies.
6 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away,
I will get me to the mountain of myrrh,
and to the hill of frankincense.
7 Thou art all fair, my love; there is no spot in thee.
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Song of Solomon 7
1 How beautiful are thy feet with shoes,
O prince's daughter!
the joints of thy thighs are like jewels,
the work of the hands of a cunning workman.
2 Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor:
thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lilies.
3 Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins.
4 Thy neck is as a tower of ivory;
thine eyes like the fishpools in Heshbon,
by the gate of Bathrabbim:
thy nose is as the tower of Lebanon
which looketh toward Damascus.
5 Thine head upon thee is like Carmel,
and the hair of thine head like purple;
the king is held in the galleries.
6 How fair and how pleasant art thou,
O love, for delights!
7 This thy stature is like to a palm tree,
and thy breasts to clusters of grapes.
8 I said, I will go up to the palm tree,
I will take hold of the boughs thereof:
now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine,
and the smell of thy nose like apples;
9 And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine for my beloved,
that goeth down sweetly, causing the lips
of those that are asleep to speak.
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Song of Solomon 8
1 O that thou wert as my brother,
that sucked the breasts of my mother!
when I should find thee without,
I would kiss thee; yea, I should not be despised.
2 I would lead thee, and bring thee into my mother's house,
who would instruct me: I would cause thee
to drink of spiced wine of the juice of my pomegranate.
3 His left hand should be under my head,
and his right hand should embrace me.
4 I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem,
that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, until he please.
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8 We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts:
what shall we do for our sister in the day
when she shall be spoken for?
9 If she be a wall, we will build upon her a palace of silver:
and if she be a door, we will inclose her with boards of cedar.
10 I am a wall, and my breasts like towers:
then was I in his eyes as one that found favour.
11 Solomon had a vineyard at Baalhamon;
he let out the vineyard unto keepers;
every one for the fruit thereof
was to bring a thousand pieces of silver.
12 My vineyard, which is mine, is before me:
thou, O Solomon, must have a thousand,
and those that keep the fruit thereof two hundred.
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Isaih 66
10 Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her,
all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her,
all ye that mourn for her:
11 That ye may suck,
and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations;
that ye may milk out,
and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.
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