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02 Apr 2005 09:55:34 PM |
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Prayer Couldn't Save The Pope |
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do
jack ***** to save the pope. Yet Jesus ridiculously boasted in his
Sermon on the Mount, (Matt 7:7) "Ask and it will be given to you; seek
and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For
everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks,
the door will be opened." Yet again, Jesus fails to keep his promise
despite the sincere prayers of so many deluded catholics. I expect
there will be many apologetics now about how "God answered -- he said
'No'," or "the pope was too good to stay in this world", etc, etc.
It's all *****, of course, as is all religion. The pope set himself
up as a virtual God on earth and yet all of his arrogant conceits have
come to nothing.
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02 Apr 2005 10:23:33 PM |
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wrote:
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do
jack ***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying for
him to live longer?
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on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
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| User: "Kenny" |
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02 Apr 2005 11:52:27 PM |
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"Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying
for
him to live longer?"
Well...if they did pray for him to live longer...it didn't work.
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07 Apr 2005 01:50:32 AM |
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On 2 Apr 2005 15:52:27 -0800, "Kenny" <kenny_tm_leong@yahoo.com>
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"Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying
for
him to live longer?"
Well...if they did pray for him to live longer...it didn't work.
Nothing fails like xtian spellcasting.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
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| User: "Newk Indofman" |
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03 Apr 2005 12:02:27 AM |
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"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE748594.5971E%chenault@mindspring.com...
quibbler247@yahoo.com wrote:
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do
jack ***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying for
him to live longer?
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
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| User: "georgann" |
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03 Apr 2005 01:05:15 AM |
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Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be it. If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
--
(`'·.¸(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
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03 Apr 2005 03:44:13 AM |
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georgann Apr 2, 5:05 pm show options
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Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 01:05:15 GMT
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Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held
every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't
do jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only
praying for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be
it. If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
But why exactly did ya prey for?! Did ya challenge the wisdom of
(your) gOD? Since gOD wanted the charlatan in heaven who da ***** are
you (and the other millions of imbeciles) to challenge gOD's wish?!
And what if the scum's choice was heaven vs. vatican? How dare you to
disobey both gOD's will and gOD's ***** on earth: the pope??
The fact that you challenge your own drug of choice - your gOD -- is
proof enough that you are degenerated beasts. U're way too stupid to
spell "hello", since u're 2nd class primates. A baboo will never
do crusades, inquisitions, underage rapes, $$_laundry, serial killings,
torture/s, books burnings (and Libraries, remember Alexandria?); but a
religious imbecile will
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03 Apr 2005 03:50:39 AM |
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wrote in
news:1112499853.450835.199590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be
it. If that meant the end of his life, so be it.
What do yuo say in your prayers? "God, do whatever the hell you want to
do"? Then why pray at all?
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplin and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around
them but also against their own selves. The fanatical believer is not
conscious of his envy, malice, pettiness and dishonesty. There is a wall
of words between his consciousness and his real self.
-- Eric Hoffer
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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03 Apr 2005 03:00:38 PM |
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"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE74AB74.597EB%chenault@mindspring.com...
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be it.
If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
That's a cop-out if I've ever heard one.
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| User: "Newk Indofman" |
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03 Apr 2005 05:25:08 AM |
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"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE74AB74.597EB%chenault@mindspring.com...
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do
jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying
for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be it.
If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
Does an all-omniscient, all-powerful, all-knowing God need your prayers to
ensure that his/her will is done?
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| User: "Bob Pease" |
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03 Apr 2005 05:36:00 AM |
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"Newk Indofman" <nkom@newkindofman.org> wrote in message
news:U6L3e.15118$e06.13771@twister.socal.rr.com...
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE74AB74.597EB%chenault@mindspring.com...
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held
every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do
jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying
for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be
it.
If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
Does an all-omniscient, all-powerful, all-knowing God need your prayers to
ensure that his/her will is done?
The point of this kind of a prayer is to reaffirm resignation to God's will.
Sort of a Kismet number.
I guess God is supposed to be pleased if you admit Who's in charge.
Actually, the Kismet idea is not the worst of those available to folks who
are as enlightened as we're supposed to be.
RJ P
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| User: "quibbler" |
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03 Apr 2005 03:03:13 PM |
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In article <d2nvc0$clp@dispatch.concentric.net>,
says...
"Newk Indofman" <nkom@newkindofman.org> wrote in message
news:U6L3e.15118$e06.13771@twister.socal.rr.com...
"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE74AB74.597EB%chenault@mindspring.com...
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held
every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do
jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying
for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be
it.
If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
Does an all-omniscient, all-powerful, all-knowing God need your prayers to
ensure that his/her will is done?
The point of this kind of a prayer is to reaffirm resignation to God's will.
Like there would be any alternative. I know that Jesus made a
moronic prayer like that in the Garden too, before his ***** ***** got
what it deserved. It still doesn't make sense to talk about
resigning to god's will if one is trying to influence it. If god is
influenced by your suplication then he wills to do what you want him
to do. Any way you slice it, it would still be his will as far as
how he acted.
Sort of a Kismet number.
I guess God is supposed to be pleased if you admit Who's in charge.
I've been admitting that natural forces were in charge for a long
time, but I see no indication that any mythical god being is
particularily pleased about this fact, one way or the other. But as
far as kismet goes, if everything is fated to happen then one could
only attempt to please god and surrender to his will if one were
fated to do so.
Actually, the Kismet idea is not the worst of those available to folks who
are as enlightened as we're supposed to be.
Whatever.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "GlennGlenn" |
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03 Apr 2005 05:49:36 AM |
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In article <d2nvc0$clp@dispatch.concentric.net>, Bob Pease
<pope@youkno.net> wrote:
The point of this kind of a prayer is to reaffirm resignation to God's will.
Then the point is supplication to the caprices of a megalomaniac. Have
fun with that.
--
GlennGlenn -- aa#825 --
I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have taken
my wages in people.
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| User: "Bob Pease" |
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03 Apr 2005 03:39:44 PM |
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"GlennGlenn" <dipthotdipthot@yahoo.yahoo.com.com> wrote in message
news:020420052149369674%dipthotdipthot@yahoo.yahoo.com.com...
In article <d2nvc0$clp@dispatch.concentric.net>, Bob Pease
<pope@youkno.net> wrote:
The point of this kind of a prayer is to reaffirm resignation to God's
will.
Then the point is supplication to the caprices of a megalomaniac. Have
fun with that.
That's true.
Isn't it possible to explain the reason behind something without having
people assume you agree with it.?
The OP was implying that there are no historical or pseudorational
motivations for prayer.
I noticed that the relevant parallel to Kismet was snipped.
RJ P
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| User: "GlennGlenn" |
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03 Apr 2005 06:23:52 PM |
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In article <d2p2o0$clu@dispatch.concentric.net>, Bob Pease
<pope@youkno.net> wrote:
"GlennGlenn" < > wrote in message
news:020420052149369674%...
In article <d2nvc0$clp@dispatch.concentric.net>, Bob Pease
<pope@youkno.net> wrote:
The point of this kind of a prayer is to reaffirm resignation to
God's will.
Then the point is supplication to the caprices of a megalomaniac. Have
fun with that.
That's true.
Thank you.
Isn't it possible to explain the reason behind something without having
people assume you agree with it.?
Is it possible to assume that when you make that kind of statement in
front of an audience of skeptics that they will no just nod and say, "I
see"?
The OP was implying that there are no historical or pseudorational
motivations for prayer.
Fine. Yet your explanation really doesn't help at all.
"O, Lord, you are sooo-o huge. Gee, you are immense. Do whatever it
was you were going to do regarding the passing of this fellow
regardless of my little speech here. Sorry to be a bother, actually...
I'll go now."
But they don't. They drone on and on and on in huge numbers in the
above fashion.
I noticed that the relevant parallel to Kismet was snipped.
Whatever:
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48:
Kismet \Kis"met\, n. [Per. qismat.]
Destiny; fate. [Written also kismat.] [Oriental]
[1913 Webster]
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From WordNet (r) 2.0:
kismet
n : (Islam) the will of Allah [syn: kismat]
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From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0:
30 Moby Thesaurus words for "kismet":
Friday, Friday the thirteenth, appointed lot, astral influences,
astrology, book of fate, circumstance, constellation, cup,
destination, destiny, dies funestis, doom, end, fatality, fate,
foredoom, fortune, future, ides of March, inevitability, lot,
moira, planets, portion, stars, unlucky day, weird,
wheel of fortune, will of Heaven
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From U.S. Gazetteer (1990):
Kismet, KS (city, FIPS 37325)
Location: 37.20500 N, 100.70057 W
Population (1990): 421 (174 housing units)
Area: 0.5 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water)
Zip code(s): 67859
Kismet, NY
Zip code(s): 11706
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From U.S. Gazetteer Places (2000):
Kismet, KS -- U.S. city in Kansas
Population (2000): 484
Housing Units (2000): 172
Land area (2000): 0.230809 sq. miles (0.597793 sq. km)
Water area (2000): 0.000000 sq. miles (0.000000 sq. km)
Total area (2000): 0.230809 sq. miles (0.597793 sq. km)
FIPS code: 37325
Located within: Kansas (KS), FIPS 20
Location: 37.205043 N, 100.701081 W
ZIP Codes (1990): 67859
Note: some ZIP codes may be omitted esp. for suburbs.
Headwords:
Kismet, KS
Kismet
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You're welcome.
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GlennGlenn -- aa#825 --
I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have taken
my wages in people.
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03 Apr 2005 07:31:04 PM |
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"GlennGlenn" <dipthotdipthot@yahoo.yahoo.com.com> wrote in message
news:030420051123522613%dipthotdipthot@yahoo.yahoo.com.com...
In article <d2p2o0$clu@dispatch.concentric.net>, Bob Pease
<pope@youkno.net> wrote:
"GlennGlenn" <dipthotdipthot@yahoo.yahoo.com.com> wrote in message
news:020420052149369674%dipthotdipthot@yahoo.yahoo.com.com...
In article <d2nvc0$clp@dispatch.concentric.net>, Bob Pease
<pope@youkno.net> wrote:
The point of this kind of a prayer is to reaffirm resignation to
God's will.
Then the point is supplication to the caprices of a megalomaniac.
Have
fun with that.
That's true.
Thank you.
Isn't it possible to explain the reason behind something without having
people assume you agree with it.?
Is it possible to assume that when you make that kind of statement in
front of an audience of skeptics that they will no just nod and say, "I
see"?
The OP was implying that there are no historical or pseudorational
motivations for prayer.
Fine. Yet your explanation really doesn't help at all.
Nothing was explained.
The purpose of my post was to comment that stupid generalizations like the
OP seldom give credence to the point they are trying to make.
the purpose of the second post was to comment that criticism of an argument
does not mean that you disagree with the premise.
The purpose of this post is to..
PLONCQUE!!!
rj p
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| User: "GlennGlenn" |
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03 Apr 2005 10:39:32 PM |
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In article <d2pg9o$cls@dispatch.concentric.net>, Bob Pease
<pope@youkno.net> wrote:
"GlennGlenn" < > wrote in message
news:030420051123522613%...
In article <d2p2o0$clu@dispatch.concentric.net>, Bob Pease
<pope@youkno.net> wrote:
"GlennGlenn" < > wrote in message
news:020420052149369674%...
In article <d2nvc0$clp@dispatch.concentric.net>, Bob Pease
<pope@youkno.net> wrote:
The point of this kind of a prayer is to reaffirm resignation to
God's will.
Then the point is supplication to the caprices of a
megalomaniac. Have fun with that.
That's true.
Thank you.
Isn't it possible to explain the reason behind something without having
people assume you agree with it.?
Is it possible to assume that when you make that kind of statement in
front of an audience of skeptics that they will no just nod and say, "I
see"?
The OP was implying that there are no historical or pseudorational
motivations for prayer.
Fine. Yet your explanation really doesn't help at all.
Nothing was explained.
No kidding. There is no logical explanation... just unexamined
emotionalism in service of a corrupt power structure. Much like the
support for the Iraq police action.
The purpose of my post was to comment that stupid generalizations like the
OP seldom give credence to the point they are trying to make.
Whatever problems there were to the OP's post, anything you posted in
response was just as lame.
the purpose of the second post was to comment that criticism of an argument
does not mean that you disagree with the premise.
Hey, even *I* know that few of those emotional children on the TV were
praying for the pope to come dancing out of the building.
The purpose of this post is to..
PLONCQUE!!!
Merci!
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GlennGlenn -- aa#825 --
I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have taken
my wages in people.
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03 Apr 2005 03:51:27 PM |
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"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BE74AB74.597EB%chenault@mindspring.com...
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do
jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying
for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be it.
If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
If that's the case, why bother at all?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "quibbler" |
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03 Apr 2005 02:20:51 AM |
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In article <BE74AB74.597EB%chenault@mindspring.com>,
chenault@mindspring.com says...
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done.
IOWs, you "prayed" that god do what he was going to do whether you
prayed or not. That's pretty fucking stupid of you.
If that meant recovery, then so be it. If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
You had no idea what would happen, but you just wanted to be able to
claim, no matter what happened, that it was what you wanted all
along. Of course, being that you heard the medical reports, like
everyone else, you knew what was likely to happen, so I'm not
surprised to hear you hedging. If the pope had survived then I'm
sure you would have proclaimed god, rather than the pope's body,
responsible.
--
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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03 Apr 2005 01:40:32 AM |
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On 02 Apr 2005, georgann dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be
it. If that meant the end of his life, so be it.
Interesting, but everything that happens is claimed to be "god's will". In
that light is it really necessary to pray that god's will be done?
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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03 Apr 2005 03:12:09 AM |
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 01:05:15 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be it. If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
What a fucking cop out!
The equivalent of saying 'I hope my wife has a boy, if not, I hope
it's a girl'.
Idiot!
Knock, knock..
Who's there?
Me.
What?
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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03 Apr 2005 07:48:01 PM |
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 01:05:15 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done.
Which would seem pointless, to say the least. What purpose is there in
beseeching God to do what he already intends to do?
If that meant recovery, then so be it. If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
Again, why bother praying at all?
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| User: "LP" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer Couldn't Save The Pope |
03 Apr 2005 06:21:03 PM |
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 01:05:15 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be it. If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
So then, by this you are implying that it is possible for your Gods
will to NOT be done.
Am I correct?
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| User: "xModem" |
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03 Apr 2005 02:43:05 PM |
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 01:05:15 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be it. If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
As a believer, why would you do that? Isn't God's will always done?
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer Couldn't Save The Pope |
04 Apr 2005 02:01:35 PM |
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georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be it. If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
What use is prayer in that case? If you're not trying to affect the
outcome, but believe what will be, will be, then isn't prayer just a
waste of time?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Carl Tomkins" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer Couldn't Save The Pope |
04 Apr 2005 01:17:36 PM |
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georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<BE74AB74.597EB%chenault@mindspring.com>...
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be it. If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
--
(`'·.¸(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
(¸.·'´(¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸)`'·.¸)
I was looking to try to find an example of the stupid answers that
religious idiots give to relevant questions. Your previous answer is
spot on and I thank you for being that ignorant (or that much of a
bullshitter that you pretend to believe all this garbage) and that
annoying.
Gods will, Gods will. For fucks sake, its pretty obvious by now that
if your 'god' does really exist, then he is a wanker who is playing
the world like some kind of sim city computer game.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer Couldn't Save The Pope |
04 Apr 2005 08:27:04 PM |
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In article <c2d9937f.0504040517.462c0460@posting.google.com>,
whotheman@btinternet.com says...
For fucks sake, its pretty obvious by now that
if your 'god' does really exist, then he is a wanker who is playing
the world like some kind of sim city computer game.
Yes and he's not doing a particularly good job of it either. I
suspect that most five-year-olds could make better decisions than he
does.
--
____________________________________________________
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer Couldn't Save The Pope |
07 Apr 2005 01:53:02 AM |
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:27:04 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <c2d9937f.0504040517.462c0460@posting.google.com>,
whotheman@btinternet.com says...
For fucks sake, its pretty obvious by now that
if your 'god' does really exist, then he is a wanker who is playing
the world like some kind of sim city computer game.
Yes and he's not doing a particularly good job of it either. I
suspect that most five-year-olds could make better decisions than he
does.
Sucker bet.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer Couldn't Save The Pope |
04 Apr 2005 02:01:41 PM |
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georgann wrote:
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held
every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't
do jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only
praying for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done.
Then why the ***** even bothering wasting your time praying??? "I pray
that you do whatever you were going to do" Why bother?
jwk
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| User: "Olrik" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer Couldn't Save The Pope |
03 Apr 2005 06:13:21 AM |
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georgann wrote:
Despite the prayers of hundreds of millions and masses being held every
hour, on the hour, in many places around the world, they couldn't do jack
***** to save the pope.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying for
him to live longer?
Newk Indofman wrote:
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I prayed that God's will be done. If that meant recovery, then so be it. If
that meant the end of his life, so be it.
IOW, "god" does what it wants, and does not care jackshit about what you
think.
And since *everybody* dies, prayers for life are *always* for nought.
--
(`'·.¸(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
(¸.·'´(¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸)`'·.¸)
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "Patrick" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer Couldn't Save The Pope |
03 Apr 2005 02:10:25 AM |
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Newk Indofman" wrote:
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Do you imagine that all or even most of those people were only praying for
him to live longer?
Forgive me (right now), but what *were* you praying for?
+ I prayed that God's Will be done.
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