"Bible John" <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote
in message news:john.doggett-D09185.20545118062005@news.charter.net...

* Please join me in daily prayer for walksalone.dirty.deeds, a
unbeliever from these boards.

Do you think your god likes trolls?

Bible John wrote:

* Please join me in daily prayer for walksalone.dirty.deeds, a
unbeliever from these boards.

<bows head>

He has been added to the unbeliever page #16
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/unbeliever_list.htm

Dear Lord,

Bless.walksalone.dirty.deeds

with lemonade and lots of sweet streams to cool his wandering feet.

Save his soul-

ful singing for times of sweet isolation, as the children just up the
street have wept and clutched their ears during times of passionate
melody!

Help him to repent

of the times he disdained Sunny's kindly offered medicines, offering his
backside when she kindly lifted spoon to wolfish lips.

to You and

all decent Christians, we offer humble apologies for using your name and
their kind examples as springboards for self-aggrandizing on these most
public of places (in contrast to the admonition to pray in closets,
privately.) However, we

trust Jesus Christ.

to forgive us every proud, self-serving thing we do, so I imagine we're
cleared of all wrongdoing even before we do it -- which is pretty
convenient, I'll tell ya!

If we were *really* praying for walksalone, we'd ask You to

Help him find someone to love him,

more than I do, as I cannot know him nor his wily charms, and I'm frankly
exhausted pretending to offer that particular emotion.

I'd sure appreciate it if you'd make him be quiet,

and to stop his

jocularity regarding the pious renderings of those who are absolutely
sure they're in your favor. The

public attacks on me and my friend John Weatherly

darn well hurt my feelings.

Help him to realize that there is only one God in this universe and that

I'm sure I'm on his team, not like the nasty publicans and walksalone.

it is you o lord

I pray to, though with the blessing of Usenet, I'm sure the prayer will
be seen internationally, and with any of your blessing, there will be
some cash accompanying syndication.

Help him to stop worshipping 3 or more gods that are

figments of my imagination.

fakes.

abound in these newsgroups, and I have always thought it was better to
join them than beat them.

Praise You for being good and worthy, Lord. There is no other like

me to glean glory from using

You.
In Jesus' name, Amen.

God bless you,!walksalone.dirty.deeds

Amen

John Wolf

<amen!>
Sunny
who has snipped absolutely nothing at all :-)

In our last episode
<john.doggett-D09185.20545118062005@news.charter.net>, Bible John
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

* Please join me in daily prayer for walksalone.dirty.deeds, a unbeliever
from these boards.

He has been added to the unbeliever page #16

Get. Help.

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:54:51 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:

* Please join me in daily prayer for walksalone.dirty.deeds, a
unbeliever from these boards.

He has been added to the unbeliever page #16
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/unbeliever_list.htm

John,
2 Corinthians 5:17-21 NASB

17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old
things passed away; behold, new things have come.

18 Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself
through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 namely,

that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting
their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of
reconciliation.

20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making
an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to
God.

21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might
become the righteousness of God in Him.

We are ambassadors for Christ, given the ministry of reconciliation and

the word of reconciliation to reconcile men to God so that they can be
new creatures (Gr. ktisis, formations,buildings, ordinances, creations).
We are new creations (new creatures) so that we might become the
righteousness of God in Christ. An ambassador (Gr. presbeuo) is one who
speaks for the one who sent him. Figuratively it is used of a preacher
(Gr. kerusso, a herald). An ambassador's job and a preacher's job is to
speak "verbatim" the message he is assigned to deliver to the person the
message is sent to.

Prayer is nothing more than verbalizing what God already knows what you

are going to say. Prayer is not for God's sake, but for the sake of the
speaker and the hearer. The same with praise and worship. Prayer,
praise, and worship do not change or affect God who does not change who
is always faithful. Prayer, praise and worship are for the sake of the
ones doing them and those who hear them. It follows, then, that prayer,
praise and worship should be done God's way and that means the way God
wants it done.

An ambassador speaks what God or Christ says to speak; not what the
ambassador wants to speak. I could say "I don't want to hear what you
have to say, I want to hear what God has to say" and be Biblically
accurate. You are not perfect and therefore what you originate can not
be perfect. But God and Christ are perfect and what they originate is
perfect so the words spoken by an ambassador which are God or Christ's
words should be perfect and should "reconcile" men to God.

I see no reconciliation at all in your prayer; nor does anyone else that
I am aware of. In the salutation, you say "Lord" - which one?

In he first line you ask that Lord to speak well of (bless) Walks while
you are speaking bad about him. In the same line you ask the Lord to

save is life (soul = physical life) which indicates that you believe that
Walks is dying. I've seen no indication in any of his posts that he is
nigh unto death.

You use a public attack on Walks, to ask the "Lord" to override Walk's
free will to prevent him from making public attacks against you and jw.
Isn't that hypocritical?

In the next paragraph you define "Lord" as the One God and condemn an
atheist for worshipping gods. Technically, worship means to "obey." It

is unlikely that an atheist would obey what he does not believe in. Walks
was showing you the hypocrisy of what you were doing by substituting
false gods for the real one. I admit that it is embarrassing to be

corrected by an atheist about spiritual matters, but when the shoe fits

we wear it. To correct thing to have done would have been to admit the
hypocrisy and submit yourself to God to being about the required changes
in your behavior and thinking patterns.
John, numerous Christians have pointed out to you that your
hypocritical prayers are contrary to the will of God. You are not
speaking the will of God or the will of Christ as an ambassador for
Christ. If you speaking for God or Christ, the words would have been
perfect words from the perfect source and not obviously human words
designed to insult and antagonize and generate hate or hard feelings. You
have also been told by unbelievers that your behavior is not honorable.

As an ambassador for Christ you represent Christ. We all for short from
time to time; but your falling short is happening to frequently even
after you have been given the doctrine, reproof, and correction required
by the Word for such behavior.

I admire your zeal and your tenacity and your attempt to stand in
Christ's stead. But to do so successfully you need to do it Christ's
way.

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:54:51 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:

* Please join me in daily prayer for walksalone.dirty.deeds, a
unbeliever from these boards.

He has been added to the unbeliever page #16
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/unbeliever_list.htm


Dear Lord,

Bless.walksalone.dirty.deeds Save his soul! Help him to repent to You and
trust Jesus Christ. Help him find someone to love him, and to stop his
public attacks on me and my friend John Weatherly.

Help him to realize that there is only one God in this universe and that
is you o lord. Help him to stop worshipping 3 or more gods that are
fakes.

Praise You for being good and worthy, Lord. There is no other like
You.

In Jesus' name, Amen.

God bless you,!walksalone.dirty.deeds

Amen

John Wolf

John,

2 Corinthians 5:17-21 NASB
17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old
things passed away; behold, new things have come.
18 Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself
through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation,
19 namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself,
not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us
the word of reconciliation.
20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were
making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be
reconciled to God.
21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we
might become the righteousness of God in Him.

We are ambassadors for Christ, given the ministry of reconciliation
and the word of reconciliation to reconcile men to God so that they
can be new creatures (Gr. ktisis, formations,buildings, ordinances,
creations). We are new creations (new creatures) so that we might
become the righteousness of God in Christ. An ambassador (Gr.
presbeuo) is one who speaks for the one who sent him. Figuratively it
is used of a preacher (Gr. kerusso, a herald). An ambassador's job
and a preacher's job is to speak "verbatim" the message he is assigned
to deliver to the person the message is sent to.

Prayer is nothing more than verbalizing what God already knows what
you are going to say. Prayer is not for God's sake, but for the sake
of the speaker and the hearer. The same with praise and worship.
Prayer, praise, and worship do not change or affect God who does not
change who is always faithful. Prayer, praise and worship are for the
sake of the ones doing them and those who hear them. It follows,
then, that prayer, praise and worship should be done God's way and
that means the way God wants it done.

An ambassador speaks what God or Christ says to speak; not what the
ambassador wants to speak. I could say "I don't want to hear what you
have to say, I want to hear what God has to say" and be Biblically
accurate. You are not perfect and therefore what you originate can
not be perfect. But God and Christ are perfect and what they
originate is perfect so the words spoken by an ambassador which are
God or Christ's words should be perfect and should "reconcile" men to
God.

I see no reconciliation at all in your prayer;

So that you can pray more intelligently, I should give
you my POV on this subject, which is that walks and Grane
(the one who changes his nick almost weekly, are not
merely atheists, but likely demoniacs.

Pray for interventions for both of them.

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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:54:51 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the group)

* Please join me in daily prayer for walksalone.dirty.deeds, a
unbeliever from these boards.

He has been added to the unbeliever page #16
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/unbeliever_list.htm


Dear Lord,

Brother John:

So that you can pray more intelligently, I should give you my POV on this

subject, which is that walks and Grane (the one who changes his nick
almost weekly, are not merely atheists, but likely demoniacs.

Pray for interventions for both of them.

jw