Religions > Atheism > PRAYER STUDY: COLUMBIA PROFESSOR REMOVES HIS NAME FROM PAPER
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"Mike Painter" |
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03 Dec 2004 04:22:30 PM |
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PRAYER STUDY: COLUMBIA PROFESSOR REMOVES HIS NAME FROM PAPER |
PRAYER STUDY: COLUMBIA PROFESSOR REMOVES HIS NAME FROM PAPER. We have been
tracking the sordid story of the Columbia prayer study for three years
http://www.aps.org/WN/WN01/wn100501.cfm .
It claimed that women for whom total strangers prayed were twice as likely
to become pregnant from in-vitro fertilization as others; it was published
in the Journal of Reproductive Medicine.
At the time we were unaware of the background of the study, but knew it had
to be wrong; the first assumption of science is that events result from
natural causes. The lead author, Rugerio Lobo, who at the time was Chair of
Obstetrics, now says he had no role in the study. The author who set up the
study is doing five years for fraud in a separate case, and his partner
hanged himself in jail. Another author left Columbia and isn't talking.
The Journal has never acknowledged any responsibility, and after withdrawing
the paper for "scrutiny," has put it back on the web.
Nor has the Journal published letters critical of the study.
Columbia has never acknowledged any responsibility. All of this has come out
due to the persistence of Bruce Flamm, MD. The science community should
flatly refuse all proposals or papers that invoke any supernatural
explanation for physical phenomena.
THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND.
Opinions are the author's and not necessarily shared by the University of
Maryland, but they should be.
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| User: "Kathy" |
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| Title: Re: PRAYER STUDY: COLUMBIA PROFESSOR REMOVES HIS NAME FROM PAPER |
04 Dec 2004 10:03:41 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:GG5sd.53690$QJ3.23649@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
PRAYER STUDY: COLUMBIA PROFESSOR REMOVES HIS NAME FROM PAPER. We have been
tracking the sordid story of the Columbia prayer study for three years
http://www.aps.org/WN/WN01/wn100501.cfm .
It claimed that women for whom total strangers prayed were twice as likely
to become pregnant from in-vitro fertilization as others; it was published
in the Journal of Reproductive Medicine.
Figures this would be a fraud. If prayer actually worked, why would they
need the science of in-vitro fertilization?
Kathy aa #1802
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| User: "Rv Cloim" |
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| Title: Re: PRAYER STUDY: COLUMBIA PROFESSOR REMOVES HIS NAME FROM PAPER |
03 Dec 2004 08:54:07 PM |
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:22:30 +0000, Mike Painter wrote:
The science community should
flatly refuse all proposals or papers that invoke any supernatural
explanation for physical phenomena.
I disagree. That which is "supernatural" today may be natural tomorrow.
For instance, germs were supernatural prior to the microscope.
I do, however, understand where you're coming from. I just think exclusion
is not the answer, but rather scrutiny and replication. You can't blindly
accept *any study whether or not "supernatural" components are present.
The chaff will filter out...
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