Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
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Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/baby_inside_baby_Nov_09_2004.html

An episode of Ripley's showed an Indian man who carried around a fetus
in his abdomen for 35 years. His belly was huge but doctors couldn't
tell what the problem was. They finally cut him open and pulled out a
fairly good sized fetus that had been inside him his whole life. It
was nasty looking.

I read somewhere that those are now considered to be internal conjoined
twins.

Sometimes they differentiate randomly and just grow organs or teeth and
bones in a jumble, and then it's called a teratoma.

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in alt.atheism

These pics aren't too incredibly disturbing, just... "weird". :-/
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/baby_inside_baby_Nov_09_2004.html

An episode of Ripley's showed an Indian man who carried around a fetus
in his abdomen for 35 years. His belly was huge but doctors couldn't
tell what the problem was. They finally cut him open and pulled out a
fairly good sized fetus that had been inside him his whole life. It
was nasty looking.

I read somewhere that those are now considered to be internal conjoined
twins.

Sometimes they differentiate randomly and just grow organs or teeth and
bones in a jumble, and then it's called a teratoma.

In the end, doctors successfully removed the parasitic head, and the
(Muslim) parents named it and buried it in the cemetary. Still and
all, it was apparently *sentient* - can you imagine what the forced
birthers would do in a situation like that?

Auntie Lib wrote:

They had several stories of what are known as "chimeras." Another
segment showed the actual surgery of a newborn baby with its twin in
its abdomen. As the doctor got set to cut, he said he could feel a leg
kicking (and they showed the bulge) and I wondered the same thing -
what someone who is rabidly anti-abortion or rabidly religious would
think about that. Does the "twin" have a "soul"? Isn't it a "person"
too?

And if that isn't enough, there is the story (on Discovery Health
Channel) of the Egyptian girl born with a second *head*, what is called
a "parasitic twin." The heads were joined at the crown; the parasitic
head had no body to speak of, no heart, lungs, or gastrointestinal
system of it's own. However, there was good evidence that the brain in
the parasitic head was fully-functional, as it would be awake and
looking around while the baby (the "real" head) was sleeping. Even
when the "real" baby was awake, the eyes in the parasitic head would
look at things the "real" baby wasn't looking at, and the mouth moved
independently of the mouth on the "real" baby.

In the end, doctors successfully removed the parasitic head, and the
(Muslim) parents named it and buried it in the cemetary. Still and
all, it was apparently *sentient* - can you imagine what the forced
birthers would do in a situation like that?

Auntie Lib wrote:

They had several stories of what are known as "chimeras." Another
segment showed the actual surgery of a newborn baby with its twin in
its abdomen. As the doctor got set to cut, he said he could feel a leg
kicking (and they showed the bulge) and I wondered the same thing -
what someone who is rabidly anti-abortion or rabidly religious would
think about that. Does the "twin" have a "soul"? Isn't it a "person"
too?

And if that isn't enough, there is the story (on Discovery Health
Channel) of the Egyptian girl born with a second *head*, what is called
a "parasitic twin." The heads were joined at the crown; the parasitic
head had no body to speak of, no heart, lungs, or gastrointestinal
system of it's own. However, there was good evidence that the brain in
the parasitic head was fully-functional, as it would be awake and
looking around while the baby (the "real" head) was sleeping. Even
when the "real" baby was awake, the eyes in the parasitic head would
look at things the "real" baby wasn't looking at, and the mouth moved
independently of the mouth on the "real" baby.

In the end, doctors successfully removed the parasitic head, and the
(Muslim) parents named it and buried it in the cemetary. Still and
all, it was apparently *sentient* - can you imagine what the forced
birthers would do in a situation like that?

Auntie Lib wrote:

They had several stories of what are known as "chimeras." Another
segment showed the actual surgery of a newborn baby with its twin in
its abdomen. As the doctor got set to cut, he said he could feel a leg
kicking (and they showed the bulge) and I wondered the same thing -
what someone who is rabidly anti-abortion or rabidly religious would
think about that. Does the "twin" have a "soul"? Isn't it a "person"
too?

And if that isn't enough, there is the story (on Discovery Health
Channel) of the Egyptian girl born with a second *head*, what is called
a "parasitic twin." The heads were joined at the crown; the parasitic
head had no body to speak of, no heart, lungs, or gastrointestinal
system of it's own. However, there was good evidence that the brain in
the parasitic head was fully-functional, as it would be awake and
looking around while the baby (the "real" head) was sleeping. Even
when the "real" baby was awake, the eyes in the parasitic head would
look at things the "real" baby wasn't looking at, and the mouth moved
independently of the mouth on the "real" baby.

In the end, doctors successfully removed the parasitic head, and the
(Muslim) parents named it and buried it in the cemetary. Still and
all, it was apparently *sentient* - can you imagine what the forced
birthers would do in a situation like that?

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding

In article <1128126711.157976.303120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com> wrote:

I saw a program on that a couple of weeks ago on one of the
Discovery/Health channels. I think it's known as "fetus in fetu" or
something like that. The bulk of the program was on the investigation
of a boy who had a large mass growing in his abdomen. (I think it was
in Afghanistan - his parents were Muslim and the mother was very
worried that she had caused the problem and her husband would divorce
her or kill her or something. They had to reassure her that it is
something that just happens.) When surgeons removed the mass, they
discovered his twin brother. An American doctor went there to do some
research and study the mass. It was amazing! A large glob of black
hair and some teeth and part of an eye socket and cheek bone all bound
together.

They had several stories of what are known as "chimeras." Another
segment showed the actual surgery of a newborn baby with its twin in
its abdomen. As the doctor got set to cut, he said he could feel a leg
kicking (and they showed the bulge) and I wondered the same thing -
what someone who is rabidly anti-abortion or rabidly religious would
think about that. Does the "twin" have a "soul"? Isn't it a "person"
too? The fetus they removed was only the lower half; legs and a trunk
and rudimentary arms but not much else. They called it "acardiac."
(No heart. Though I should think the fact that it had no head would be
of equal importance.) Totally gross and totally fascinating at the
same time.

Interestingly, it's more common than was once thought. (Now that DNA
testing is so readily available.)

elizabet

Perhaps some of the people freed on DNA evidence were chimeras and
actually guilty?

Perhaps some of the people freed on DNA evidence were chimeras and
actually guilty?

I recall reading an article where a paternity test on three children
were done. The father was the same (husband) in all three, but the
mother, genetically, only mothered one of the three she gave birth to!
One ovary was from an undeveloped sister.

On 30 Sep 2005 17:31:51 -0700, "Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com>
wrote:

[]

They had several stories of what are known as "chimeras."

[]

I recall reae ding an article where a paternity test on three children
were done. The father was the same (husband) in all three, but the
mother, genetically, only mothered one of the three she gave birth to!
One ovary was from an undeveloped sister.

On 30 Sep 2005 17:31:51 -0700, "Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com>
wrote:

[]

They had several stories of what are known as "chimeras."

[]

I recall reading an article where a paternity test on three children
were done. The father was the same (husband) in all three, but the
mother, genetically, only mothered one of the three she gave birth to!
One ovary was from an undeveloped sister.