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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Sound of Trumpet"
Date: 13 Jul 2007 05:04:02 PM
Object: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy
http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2007/07/oped_almost_eve.php
July 2, 2007
(CORRECTED) OP-ED: Almost everybody does it by 20 - but is this
healthy?
The results of a recent CDC survey reveal that approximately 96
percent of adults aged 20-59 have had ever had sex. Of all those
surveyed, almost 82 percent had sex before or at 20 years of age. Of
those who ever had sex, approximately 85 percent did so before or at
age 20 - most of which was premarital. (An earlier Guttmacher study
found that by age 20, 77 percent of respondents had sex, and 75
percent had premarital sex.)
The numbers are even higher for the younger subgroup - approximately
91 percent of those aged 20-29 had sex, and 91 percent of them had it
by or at age 20.
This isn't surprising in a culture that promotes hook ups,
cohabitation, contraception, and abortion. What is surprising is that
100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.
Some might argue that there isn't anything wrong here, that this is
normal and healthy behavior.
The problem with that argument is that this behavior is not healthy -
it results in disease transmission, demand for abortion, out-of-
wedlock pregnancy, broken hearts, and unhappiness.
According to the Office of National AIDS Policy, one quarter of all
new HIV infections occur in people under the age of 21. Approximately
75 percent of Human Papillomavirus (HPV) infections, which increase
the risks of cervical and oropharyngeal cancers, occur in people aged
15-24.
Disease isn't the only problem - there are mental consequences of
premarital sex as well. For example, sexually active teens are more
likely to attempt suicide than those who are not. Adolescent women who
engage in premarital sex are three times more likely to experience
depression as those who don't. Abortion also poses a threat, as it is
associated with an increased risk of depression and anxiety.
These are just a few of the problems associated with premarital sex -
there are numerous other problems as well.
While this behavior may be "normal" in a sexually corrupt culture,
it's anything but healthy. There isn't a healthy reason for young
people to engage in premarital sex to begin with - in fact; it is a
threat to public health.
While contraceptives don't cause teens to have sex, they do enable
them to do so, a point those on both sides of the issue seem to miss.
There is a healthy fear in the pro-life movement that addressing
contraception may be counterproductive in the efforts to win public
opinion. This fear is partially based upon the idea that the public
won't tolerate a ban on contraception.
Unfortunately, this well founded fear has often resulted in near
silence about the negative aspects of contraceptives, including the
role it plays in adolescent sexual decisions.
How do contraceptives impact on these decisions? Simply put,
contraceptives (and abortion) act as an "insurance policy" against
unplanned pregnancy (and birth), lowering the perceived risks of
premarital sexual activity. This "policy" enables people who would
normally not engage in sexual activity to do so. Unfortunately for
many, these policies often fail, resulting in pregnancy and disease
transmission.
Religious beliefs also have a role in the avoidance of this issue -
many non-Catholic denominations approve of contraceptive use among
married couples, so they are reluctant to even speak out on the issue
to begin with. The thinking is that the prohibition against premarital
sex already covers the use of contraceptives, and that use by
unmarried teens is implicitly forbidden. Yet that ignores the public
health crisis that exists in part due to easy access to contraceptives
by teens.
Many pro-life advocates do not see contraceptive use as an urgent
problem to address. Yet easy access to contraceptives by teens,
without parental consent, enables many of them to become sexually
active to begin with. And in the near future, many of these same teens
will end up at abortion and STD clinics.
Requiring parental consent for contraceptives has the potential to
preclude abortion and disease transmission for teens that are not yet
sexually active. It can also put a serious dent in the health crisis
posed by teen sexual activity.
It's a shame that so many people have sex by age 20 - not only for
what some may call puritanical reasons, but for the fact that this
only perpetuates the long standing health crisis fostered by teen
sexual activity. But until the public learns about the many downsides
of teen access to contraceptives, the crisis isn't going to improve
significantly.
.

User: "GoDrex"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 13 Jul 2007 07:29:53 PM
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote in message
news:1184364242.855971.123560@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...


What is surprising is that

100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.

some people are un-fuckable.
I had premartial sex and I never got a disease, or anyone pregnant. The sex
itself never gave me anything other than enjoyment and closensess with other
human beings. Of course I had a lot of sex education so i knew all about
birth control and sex.
.
User: "John Larkin"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 14 Jul 2007 01:00:22 AM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:29:53 -0400, "GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com>
wrote:


"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote in message
news:1184364242.855971.123560@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...


What is surprising is that

100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.



some people are un-fuckable.

A few percent of people just aren't interested in sex, as a few per
cent of people hardly feel pain.
John
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 13 Jul 2007 09:38:35 PM
X-No-Archive:
On Jul 14, 10:29 am, "GoDrex" <godre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> wrote in messagenews:1184364242.855971.123560@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

What is surprising is that

100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.


some people are un-fuckable.

I seriously doubt this. I happened to watch an episode of Dr Phil
about 2 sisters who were addicted to drugs. One of the girls was
prostituting 24/7 to support her habit. She was covered in sores, was
obviously a druggie and could barely string two words together because
she was so high. Despite this, men (some in very expensive cars) were
shown meeting her for sex. I just couldn't believe it! Not only were
they risking HIV and just about any other STD, she was disgusting to
look at! If that girl was getting paid for sex, then there is no such
thing as unfuckable!


I had premartial sex and I never got a disease, or anyone pregnant. The sex
itself never gave me anything other than enjoyment and closensess with other
human beings. Of course I had a lot of sex education so i knew all about
birth control and sex.

My son has a class at school called Personal Development where they
discuss drugs, sex, etc.. they are made painfully aware of the
consequences of sex and drugs. For a catholic school, they even
advocate condom use which I am happy about.
.
User: "Robert"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 14 Jul 2007 01:36:29 PM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:38:35 -0700,
wrote:

X-No-Archive:
On Jul 14, 10:29 am, "GoDrex" <godre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> wrote in messagenews:1184364242.855971.123560@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

What is surprising is that

100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.


some people are un-fuckable.


I seriously doubt this. I happened to watch an episode of Dr Phil
about 2 sisters who were addicted to drugs. One of the girls was
prostituting 24/7 to support her habit. She was covered in sores, was
obviously a druggie and could barely string two words together because
she was so high. Despite this, men (some in very expensive cars) were
shown meeting her for sex. I just couldn't believe it! Not only were
they risking HIV and just about any other STD, she was disgusting to
look at! If that girl was getting paid for sex, then there is no such
thing as unfuckable!


I had premartial sex and I never got a disease, or anyone pregnant. The sex
itself never gave me anything other than enjoyment and closensess with other
human beings. Of course I had a lot of sex education so i knew all about
birth control and sex.


My son has a class at school called Personal Development where they
discuss drugs, sex, etc.. they are made painfully aware of the
consequences of sex and drugs. For a catholic school, they even
advocate condom use which I am happy about.

Hip,hip hooray there is hope.
I was raised Methodist, and the adult men in my family, advised me to
not have sex with out a condom, unless I wanted to be a Daddy.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.



User: "Peacenik"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 14 Jul 2007 03:00:43 AM
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote in message
news:1184364242.855971.123560@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...


http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2007/07/oped_almost_eve.php


July 2, 2007

(CORRECTED) OP-ED: Almost everybody does it by 20 - but is this
healthy?

Yes. Just be prudent: use condoms and choose your partners wisely.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.

User: "ike milligan"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 14 Jul 2007 09:51:08 PM
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote in message
news:1184364242.855971.123560@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...


http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2007/07/oped_almost_eve.php


July 2, 2007

(CORRECTED) OP-ED: Almost everybody does it by 20 - but is this
healthy?



So stop hassling the teens and let them get married.
.

User: "Wilson"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 13 Jul 2007 08:39:53 PM
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote in message
news:1184364242.855971.123560@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...


http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2007/07/oped_almost_eve.php


July 2, 2007

You mean that you're against getting laid? What kind of sick person are you?
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 14 Jul 2007 08:34:39 AM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:39:53 -0400, Wilson wrote:

"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote in message
news:1184364242.855971.123560@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...


http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2007/07/

oped_almost_eve.php



July 2, 2007




You mean that you're against getting laid? What kind of sick person are
you?

Well, he figures if he ain't getting any...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
.


User: "Kurt Lochner"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy? 13 Jul 2007 05:12:57 PM
"pounded strumpet" whined:

Almost everybody does it by 20 - but is this healthy?

Mostly..

The results of a recent CDC survey reveal that approximately 96
percent of adults aged 20-59 have had ever had sex.

Who'duhv thunk it?

It's a shame that so many people have sex by age 20 -

What's worse, the ones that haven't turn into Republicans..

not only for what some may call puritanical reasons,[..]

--But that's the way to bet..
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 16 Jul 2007 05:49:20 AM
On 14 Juli, 01:04, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
snip
I just knew it had to be the above loon. Who else?
.

User: "Tom S"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 13 Jul 2007 05:36:46 PM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2007/07/oped_almost_eve.php


July 2, 2007

(CORRECTED) OP-ED: Almost everybody does it by 20 - but is this
healthy?


The results of a recent CDC survey reveal that approximately 96
percent of adults aged 20-59 have had ever had sex. Of all those
surveyed, almost 82 percent had sex before or at 20 years of age. Of
those who ever had sex, approximately 85 percent did so before or at
age 20 - most of which was premarital. (An earlier Guttmacher study
found that by age 20, 77 percent of respondents had sex, and 75
percent had premarital sex.)

<snip>
You are just jealous because you are in the 4%.
Tom S.
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 13 Jul 2007 06:58:49 PM
"Tom S" <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3hvf93dop1m9jacrqapoapfe3ehbmdki2s@4ax.com...

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2007/07/oped_almost_eve.php


July 2, 2007

(CORRECTED) OP-ED: Almost everybody does it by 20 - but is this
healthy?


The results of a recent CDC survey reveal that approximately 96
percent of adults aged 20-59 have had ever had sex. Of all those
surveyed, almost 82 percent had sex before or at 20 years of age. Of
those who ever had sex, approximately 85 percent did so before or at
age 20 - most of which was premarital. (An earlier Guttmacher study
found that by age 20, 77 percent of respondents had sex, and 75
percent had premarital sex.)


<snip>

You are just jealous because you are in the 4%.

His inflatable 'girlfriend' doesn't count.
Smiler,
The godless one
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 13 Jul 2007 07:59:11 PM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:36:46 -0400, Tom S wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2007/07/

oped_almost_eve.php



July 2, 2007

(CORRECTED) OP-ED: Almost everybody does it by 20 - but is this healthy?


The results of a recent CDC survey reveal that approximately 96 percent
of adults aged 20-59 have had ever had sex. Of all those surveyed,
almost 82 percent had sex before or at 20 years of age. Of those who
ever had sex, approximately 85 percent did so before or at age 20 - most
of which was premarital. (An earlier Guttmacher study found that by age
20, 77 percent of respondents had sex, and 75 percent had premarital
sex.)


<snip>

You are just jealous because you are in the 4%.

He'd have to get more just to reach that percentile.
(Even his hand won't do him)
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"What the hell is an aluminum Falcon?"
.
User: "Tom S"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 13 Jul 2007 08:25:59 PM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:59:11 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:36:46 -0400, Tom S wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2007/07/

oped_almost_eve.php



July 2, 2007

(CORRECTED) OP-ED: Almost everybody does it by 20 - but is this healthy?


The results of a recent CDC survey reveal that approximately 96 percent
of adults aged 20-59 have had ever had sex. Of all those surveyed,
almost 82 percent had sex before or at 20 years of age. Of those who
ever had sex, approximately 85 percent did so before or at age 20 - most
of which was premarital. (An earlier Guttmacher study found that by age
20, 77 percent of respondents had sex, and 75 percent had premarital
sex.)


<snip>

You are just jealous because you are in the 4%.


He'd have to get more just to reach that percentile.

(Even his hand won't do him)

That's what I mean. He is in the 4% of 20 - 59 year-olds who have not
had sex.
Tom S
.



User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 13 Jul 2007 10:39:03 PM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:

What is surprising is that
100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.

You really need to get laid. And you also need to understand that
outside of 1950's American culture, the norm throughout human history
has been to start fucking as soon as people were old enough to breed,
because for most of that history, they'd be lucky to even see age 20.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 14 Jul 2007 08:27:49 AM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:39:03 -0400, raven1 wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:

What is surprising is that
100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.


You really need to get laid. And you also need to understand that
outside of 1950's American culture, the norm throughout human history
has been to start fucking as soon as people were old enough to breed,
because for most of that history, they'd be lucky to even see age 20.

And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't happening...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 16 Jul 2007 09:27:02 AM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:RI6dnT7KHJDIUgXbnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@giganews.com...

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:39:03 -0400, raven1 wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:

What is surprising is that
100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.


You really need to get laid. And you also need to understand that
outside of 1950's American culture, the norm throughout human history
has been to start fucking as soon as people were old enough to breed,
because for most of that history, they'd be lucky to even see age 20.


And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't happening...

That makes me think of my mother and her constant "Back in MY day, we didn't
do this, that and the other, etc., etc.". I was like, "Oh, mom. Baloney.
People just didn't go on Oprah and talk about it. I don't believe for one
second there weren't any cases of drugs, alcohol, murder and pre-marital sex
prior to 1960."
-
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
.
User: "Stan-O"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 16 Jul 2007 09:37:35 AM
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:27:02 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't happening...


That makes me think of my mother and her constant "Back in MY day, we didn't
do this, that and the other, etc., etc.". I was like, "Oh, mom. Baloney.
People just didn't go on Oprah and talk about it. I don't believe for one
second there weren't any cases of drugs, alcohol, murder and pre-marital sex
prior to 1960."

Yes, and syphilis wasn't a problem in Europe a few centuries ago...
.


User: "Michael Price"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 14 Jul 2007 11:55:28 PM
On Jul 14, 11:27 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:39:03 -0400, raven1 wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> wrote:


What is surprising is that
100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.


You really need to get laid. And you also need to understand that
outside of 1950's American culture, the norm throughout human history
has been to start fucking as soon as people were old enough to breed,
because for most of that history, they'd be lucky to even see age 20.


And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't happening...

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken

And they pretended that those teenage girls were going away
for an 8 month holiday for the sun.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 15 Jul 2007 08:43:19 AM
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:55:28 -0700, Michael Price wrote:

On Jul 14, 11:27 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:39:03 -0400, raven1 wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> wrote:


What is surprising is that
100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.


You really need to get laid. And you also need to understand that
outside of 1950's American culture, the norm throughout human history
has been to start fucking as soon as people were old enough to breed,
because for most of that history, they'd be lucky to even see age 20.


And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't happening...


And they pretended that those teenage girls were going away
for an 8 month holiday for the sun.

And when they come back, they have a new baby brother without mom having
had to go through any noticeable pregnancy...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
.
User: "Michael Price"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 15 Jul 2007 07:48:06 PM
On Jul 15, 11:43 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:55:28 -0700, Michael Price wrote:

On Jul 14, 11:27 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:39:03 -0400, raven1 wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> wrote:


What is surprising is that
100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.


You really need to get laid. And you also need to understand that
outside of 1950's American culture, the norm throughout human history
has been to start fucking as soon as people were old enough to breed,
because for most of that history, they'd be lucky to even see age 20.


And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't happening...


And they pretended that those teenage girls were going away
for an 8 month holiday for the sun.


And when they come back, they have a new baby brother without mom having
had to go through any noticeable pregnancy...

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll

Yeah, you'd think mom would be happier about it...
.

User: "Stan-O"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 15 Jul 2007 09:36:06 AM
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:43:19 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't happening...


And they pretended that those teenage girls were going away
for an 8 month holiday for the sun.


And when they come back, they have a new baby brother without mom having
had to go through any noticeable pregnancy...

Let's not also forget that gay men were referred to as "confirmed
bachelors" if people started asking questions. Richard Chamberlain
referred to himself and his partner in this way for years until
someone told him we were in a new millennium and not the 1950s.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 15 Jul 2007 09:48:11 AM
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:36:06 -0400, Stan-O wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:43:19 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote:


And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't happening...


And they pretended that those teenage girls were going away
for an 8 month holiday for the sun.


And when they come back, they have a new baby brother without mom having
had to go through any noticeable pregnancy...


Let's not also forget that gay men were referred to as "confirmed
bachelors" if people started asking questions. Richard Chamberlain
referred to himself and his partner in this way for years until someone
told him we were in a new millennium and not the 1950s.

I've always liked the old phrase, "He's a man's man". How oblivious were
they back then? <G>
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"What the hell is an aluminum Falcon?"
.
User: "Michael Price"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 15 Jul 2007 07:49:26 PM
On Jul 16, 12:48 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:36:06 -0400, Stan-O wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:43:19 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo>
wrote:


And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't happening...


And they pretended that those teenage girls were going away
for an 8 month holiday for the sun.


And when they come back, they have a new baby brother without mom having
had to go through any noticeable pregnancy...


Let's not also forget that gay men were referred to as "confirmed
bachelors" if people started asking questions. Richard Chamberlain
referred to himself and his partner in this way for years until someone
told him we were in a new millennium and not the 1950s.


I've always liked the old phrase, "He's a man's man". How oblivious were
they back then? <G>

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"What the hell is an aluminum Falcon?"

Hey when I was a kid I totally missed the homosexual references
in the Village People, and Queen.
.
User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 15 Jul 2007 08:19:35 PM
Michael Price <nini_pad@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1184546966.382045.247040@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:

On Jul 16, 12:48 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:36:06 -0400, Stan-O wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:43:19 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:


And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't
happening...


And they pretended that those teenage girls were going away
for an 8 month holiday for the sun.


And when they come back, they have a new baby brother without mom
having had to go through any noticeable pregnancy...


Let's not also forget that gay men were referred to as "confirmed
bachelors" if people started asking questions. Richard Chamberlain
referred to himself and his partner in this way for years until
someone told him we were in a new millennium and not the 1950s.


I've always liked the old phrase, "He's a man's man". How oblivious
were they back then? <G>


Hey when I was a kid I totally missed the homosexual references
in the Village People, and Queen.

Wow! You were clueless, weren't you. I knew Elton John was gay in 1972.
Odd that it didn't matter to me as a twelve year old boy, what with all
the homophobia that comes along with adolescence.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Men think epilepsy divine, merely because they do not understand it. But
if they called everything divine which they do not understand, why, there
would be no end of divine things.
-- Hippocrates
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 16 Jul 2007 12:00:43 PM
"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
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Michael Price <nini_pad@yahoo.com> wrote in
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On Jul 16, 12:48 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:36:06 -0400, Stan-O wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:43:19 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:


And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't
happening...


And they pretended that those teenage girls were going away
for an 8 month holiday for the sun.


And when they come back, they have a new baby brother without mom
having had to go through any noticeable pregnancy...


Let's not also forget that gay men were referred to as "confirmed
bachelors" if people started asking questions. Richard Chamberlain
referred to himself and his partner in this way for years until
someone told him we were in a new millennium and not the 1950s.


I've always liked the old phrase, "He's a man's man". How oblivious
were they back then? <G>


Hey when I was a kid I totally missed the homosexual references
in the Village People, and Queen.


Wow! You were clueless, weren't you. I knew Elton John was gay in 1972.
Odd that it didn't matter to me as a twelve year old boy, what with all
the homophobia that comes along with adolescence.

I also heard that Rock Hudson was gay when I was a freshman in high school.
When it came out a couple of years later, when he had AIDS, I was like
"Duh".
I also heard he and Paul Lynde were lovers, but I don't think that was true
;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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User: "Stan-O"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 15 Jul 2007 10:32:07 PM
On 16 Jul 2007 01:19:35 GMT, Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote:

Let's not also forget that gay men were referred to as "confirmed
bachelors" if people started asking questions. Richard Chamberlain
referred to himself and his partner in this way for years until
someone told him we were in a new millennium and not the 1950s.


I've always liked the old phrase, "He's a man's man". How oblivious
were they back then? <G>


Hey when I was a kid I totally missed the homosexual references
in the Village People, and Queen.


Wow! You were clueless, weren't you. I knew Elton John was gay in 1972.
Odd that it didn't matter to me as a twelve year old boy, what with all
the homophobia that comes along with adolescence.

....and let's not forget about Judas Priest's lead vocalist, Rob
Halford.
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 16 Jul 2007 08:44:19 AM
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:19:35 +0000, Enkidu wrote:

Michael Price <nini_pad@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1184546966.382045.247040@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:

On Jul 16, 12:48 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:36:06 -0400, Stan-O wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:43:19 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:


And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't happening...


And they pretended that those teenage girls were going away
for an 8 month holiday for the sun.


And when they come back, they have a new baby brother without mom
having had to go through any noticeable pregnancy...


Let's not also forget that gay men were referred to as "confirmed
bachelors" if people started asking questions. Richard Chamberlain
referred to himself and his partner in this way for years until
someone told him we were in a new millennium and not the 1950s.


I've always liked the old phrase, "He's a man's man". How oblivious
were they back then? <G>


Hey when I was a kid I totally missed the homosexual references
in the Village People, and Queen.


Wow! You were clueless, weren't you. I knew Elton John was gay in
1972. Odd that it didn't matter to me as a twelve year old boy, what
with all the homophobia that comes along with adolescence.

Me, I never got the jokes...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 16 Jul 2007 08:44:01 AM
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:49:26 -0700, Michael Price wrote:

On Jul 16, 12:48 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:36:06 -0400, Stan-O wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:43:19 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:


And 1950's US culture, they just pretended it wasn't happening...


And they pretended that those teenage girls were going away
for an 8 month holiday for the sun.


And when they come back, they have a new baby brother without mom
having had to go through any noticeable pregnancy...


Let's not also forget that gay men were referred to as "confirmed
bachelors" if people started asking questions. Richard Chamberlain
referred to himself and his partner in this way for years until
someone told him we were in a new millennium and not the 1950s.


I've always liked the old phrase, "He's a man's man". How oblivious
were they back then? <G>


Hey when I was a kid I totally missed the homosexual references
in the Village People, and Queen.

You too? <G>
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"What the hell is an aluminum Falcon?"
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User: "brique"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 14 Jul 2007 01:51:16 AM
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:

What is surprising is that
100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.


You really need to get laid. And you also need to understand that
outside of 1950's American culture, the norm throughout human history
has been to start fucking as soon as people were old enough to breed,
because for most of that history, they'd be lucky to even see age 20.

hear, hear.........:-)

--

"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"

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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 13 Jul 2007 09:40:39 PM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:
That would mean that sex before marriage was invented, and sex in any
species but ours, is unhealthy. And that's nonsense. Having someone
say a few words doesn't make sex more or less healthy.
.

User: "MarkA"

Title: Re: Premarital Sex Is Anything But Healthy 14 Jul 2007 10:31:22 PM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:04:02 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:


http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2007/07/oped_almost_eve.php


July 2, 2007

(CORRECTED) OP-ED: Almost everybody does it by 20 - but is this
healthy?

I doubt if many 20 year olds have sex because they think it is "healthy".



The results of a recent CDC survey reveal that approximately 96
percent of adults aged 20-59 have had ever had sex. Of all those
surveyed, almost 82 percent had sex before or at 20 years of age. Of
those who ever had sex, approximately 85 percent did so before or at
age 20 - most of which was premarital. (An earlier Guttmacher study
found that by age 20, 77 percent of respondents had sex, and 75
percent had premarital sex.)

The numbers are even higher for the younger subgroup - approximately
91 percent of those aged 20-29 had sex, and 91 percent of them had it
by or at age 20.

This isn't surprising in a culture that promotes hook ups,
cohabitation, contraception, and abortion. What is surprising is that
100 percent of adults haven't had sex by age 20.

It's also true that even 100 years ago, over 50% of people had premarital
sex. It's almost as if sex were some instinctive drive or something.

Some might argue that there isn't anything wrong here, that this is
normal and healthy behavior.

The problem with that argument is that this behavior is not healthy -
it results in disease transmission, demand for abortion, out-of-
wedlock pregnancy, broken hearts, and unhappiness.

Conditioning teens to think that sex is 'dirty' is not healthy, either.

According to the Office of National AIDS Policy, one quarter of all
new HIV infections occur in people under the age of 21. Approximately
75 percent of Human Papillomavirus (HPV) infections, which increase
the risks of cervical and oropharyngeal cancers, occur in people aged
15-24.

Disease isn't the only problem - there are mental consequences of
premarital sex as well. For example, sexually active teens are more
likely to attempt suicide than those who are not. Adolescent women who
engage in premarital sex are three times more likely to experience
depression as those who don't. Abortion also poses a threat, as it is
associated with an increased risk of depression and anxiety.

These are just a few of the problems associated with premarital sex -
there are numerous other problems as well.

While this behavior may be "normal" in a sexually corrupt culture,
it's anything but healthy. There isn't a healthy reason for young
people to engage in premarital sex to begin with - in fact; it is a
threat to public health.

While contraceptives don't cause teens to have sex, they do enable
them to do so, a point those on both sides of the issue seem to miss.

There is a healthy fear in the pro-life movement that addressing
contraception may be counterproductive in the efforts to win public
opinion. This fear is partially based upon the idea that the public
won't tolerate a ban on contraception.

Unfortunately, this well founded fear has often resulted in near
silence about the negative aspects of contraceptives, including the
role it plays in adolescent sexual decisions.

How do contraceptives impact on these decisions? Simply put,
contraceptives (and abortion) act as an "insurance policy" against
unplanned pregnancy (and birth), lowering the perceived risks of
premarital sexual activity. This "policy" enables people who would
normally not engage in sexual activity to do so. Unfortunately for
many, these policies often fail, resulting in pregnancy and disease
transmission.

Religious beliefs also have a role in the avoidance of this issue -
many non-Catholic denominations approve of contraceptive use among
married couples, so they are reluctant to even speak out on the issue
to begin with. The thinking is that the prohibition against premarital
sex already covers the use of contraceptives, and that use by
unmarried teens is implicitly forbidden. Yet that ignores the public
health crisis that exists in part due to easy access to contraceptives
by teens.

Many pro-life advocates do not see contraceptive use as an urgent
problem to address. Yet easy access to contraceptives by teens,
without parental consent, enables many of them to become sexually
active to begin with. And in the near future, many of these same teens
will end up at abortion and STD clinics.

Requiring parental consent for contraceptives has the potential to
preclude abortion and disease transmission for teens that are not yet
sexually active. It can also put a serious dent in the health crisis
posed by teen sexual activity.

It's a shame that so many people have sex by age 20 - not only for
what some may call puritanical reasons, but for the fact that this
only perpetuates the long standing health crisis fostered by teen
sexual activity. But until the public learns about the many downsides
of teen access to contraceptives, the crisis isn't going to improve
significantly.

The death blow to all of your inane arguments is the fact that there are
societies on this planet that have a long tradition of acceptance of
teenage sexuality, availability of contraceptives, etc. Such societies
have lower rates of teen pregnancy, STDs, etc. Perhaps you should look at
the data, instead of speculating?
--
MarkA
(This space accidentally filled in)
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