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"loose cannon" |
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11 Jun 2005 04:31:26 AM |
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President Still Pushing Patriot Act |
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be enough
to pass re-enactment.
http://www.townhall.com/news/politics/200506/NAT20050610b.shtml
President Still Pushing Patriot Act
(CNSNews.com) - Calling the USA Patriot Act "one of the most important
tools to combat terror," President Bush Friday continued to lobby
Congress to reauthorize the law that many civil libertarians say gives
law enforcement too much power.
Speaking at the new National Counterterrorism Center, Bush declared,
"The Patriot Act has helped save American lives and it has protected
American liberties. For the sake of our national security, the United
States Congress needs to renew all [of] the provisions of the Patriot
Act and this time Congress needs to make those provisions permanent."
The comments came on the heels of a year-old report that the U.S.
Justice Department has just released to the public. It dealt with "the
FBI's Handling of Intelligence Information Prior to the September 11
Attacks" and pointed out many mistakes that if averted, might have
resulted in the foiling of the 9/11 attacks
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| User: "Jeff Welch" |
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11 Jun 2005 06:21:08 AM |
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
There have been three major domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
-Jeff
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: President Still Pushing Patriot Act |
11 Jun 2005 07:50:08 AM |
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"Jeff Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
There have been three major domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
And hundreds of minor ones... especially when you count anti-Muslim
terrorists, loyal to Bush.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: President Still Pushing Patriot Act |
11 Jun 2005 06:57:54 AM |
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:21:08 -0700, "Jeff Welch"
<seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote:
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
There have been three major domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
Being...?
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"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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| User: "Otis B. Driftwood" |
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11 Jun 2005 07:13:09 AM |
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raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:21:08 -0700, "Jeff Welch"
<seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote:
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1118464286.104621.14600@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
There have been three major domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
Being...?
The Washington sniper, the anthrax attack in Washington, and the
anthrax attack in Florida come tomind. Given that the frequency of
domestic terrorist attacks before 9/11 and after 9/11 seems to be
about the same, there doesn't appear to be any evidence that it is
doing any good.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: President Still Pushing Patriot Act |
11 Jun 2005 06:56:55 AM |
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On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
Al Qaeda waited far longer between the first WTC attack back in 1993,
and the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. What makes you think that the
Patriot Act has anything to do with their hiatus since 9/11?
---
"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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| User: "El Conquistador" |
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| Title: Re: President Still Pushing Patriot Act |
11 Jun 2005 12:38:18 PM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
Al Qaeda waited far longer between the first WTC attack back in 1993,
and the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. What makes you think that the
Patriot Act has anything to do with their hiatus since 9/11?
It is all *****, there is no Al Qaeda except in the Bush's mind
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: President Still Pushing Patriot Act |
11 Jun 2005 07:07:22 PM |
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"El Conquistador" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
Al Qaeda waited far longer between the first WTC attack back in 1993,
and the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. What makes you think that the
Patriot Act has anything to do with their hiatus since 9/11?
It is all *****, there is no Al Qaeda except in the Bush's mind
Yetth mahthter - there is no al Quaeda.
I hear you and obey you mahthter.
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| User: "" |
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11 Jun 2005 03:15:54 PM |
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El Conquistador wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
Al Qaeda waited far longer between the first WTC attack back in 1993,
and the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. What makes you think that the
Patriot Act has anything to do with their hiatus since 9/11?
It is all *****, there is no Al Qaeda except in the Bush's mind
So then the September 11 attacks were a hoax?
Michael
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| User: "El Conquistador" |
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12 Jun 2005 04:55:33 AM |
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<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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El Conquistador wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:uj2la1pqng9oii63lq9n9g63e3ue8tao4g@4ax.com...
On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
Al Qaeda waited far longer between the first WTC attack back in 1993,
and the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. What makes you think that the
Patriot Act has anything to do with their hiatus since 9/11?
It is all *****, there is no Al Qaeda except in the Bush's mind
So then the September 11 attacks were a hoax?
Michael
Just like Osama said: "If you want to know who did it, look to your own
government"
Mossad Chief: U.S. to Be Mired in Middle East in Perpetuity
According to Ephraim Halevy, former chief of Israel's Mossad intelligence
service and current national security adviser to Israeli Prime Minister
Ariel Sharon, plans have been made for a substantial U.S. military presence
in the Middle East lasting decades.
You thought I was kidding when I asked "Who Is Congress Listening To?"
Do you get it yet? Has it sunk in? ISRAEL WANTS THESE WARS. Bush lied to you
to send your kids off to die in a war Israel wanted. Even Bush's own
advisers openly admit this.
Do you get it yet? Israel's desires, Bush's lies, your kids' lives.
Israel's desires, Bush's lies, your kids' lives.
Israel's desires, Bush's lies, your kids' lives.
Think about it.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: President Still Pushing Patriot Act |
11 Jun 2005 07:07:27 PM |
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<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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El Conquistador wrote:
Al Qaeda waited far longer between the first WTC attack back in 1993,
and the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. What makes you think that the
Patriot Act has anything to do with their hiatus since 9/11?
It is all *****, there is no Al Qaeda except in the Bush's mind
So then the September 11 attacks were a hoax?
They used the Apollo sound stage to film it.
Every visitor to Ground Zero gets a trillion greenback dollars to keep mum.
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| User: "raven1" |
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11 Jun 2005 09:34:33 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:38:18 -0400, "El Conquistador"
<serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:uj2la1pqng9oii63lq9n9g63e3ue8tao4g@4ax.com...
On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
Al Qaeda waited far longer between the first WTC attack back in 1993,
and the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. What makes you think that the
Patriot Act has anything to do with their hiatus since 9/11?
It is all *****, there is no Al Qaeda except in the Bush's mind
So which conspiracy theory about 9/11 are you espousing?
---
"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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| User: "El Conquistador" |
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12 Jun 2005 04:56:40 AM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:38:18 -0400, "El Conquistador"
<serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:uj2la1pqng9oii63lq9n9g63e3ue8tao4g@4ax.com...
On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
Al Qaeda waited far longer between the first WTC attack back in 1993,
and the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. What makes you think that the
Patriot Act has anything to do with their hiatus since 9/11?
It is all *****, there is no Al Qaeda except in the Bush's mind
So which conspiracy theory about 9/11 are you espousing?
The only conspiracy theory there is is the one Bush and his jews espouse!
Mossad Chief: U.S. to Be Mired in Middle East in Perpetuity
According to Ephraim Halevy, former chief of Israel's Mossad intelligence
service and current national security adviser to Israeli Prime Minister
Ariel Sharon, plans have been made for a substantial U.S. military presence
in the Middle East lasting decades.
You thought I was kidding when I asked "Who Is Congress Listening To?"
Do you get it yet? Has it sunk in? ISRAEL WANTS THESE WARS. Bush lied to you
to send your kids off to die in a war Israel wanted. Even Bush's own
advisers openly admit this.
Do you get it yet? Israel's desires, Bush's lies, your kids' lives.
Israel's desires, Bush's lies, your kids' lives.
Israel's desires, Bush's lies, your kids' lives.
Think about it.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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12 Jun 2005 07:01:57 AM |
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El Conquistador wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:38:18 -0400, "El Conquistador"
<serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:uj2la1pqng9oii63lq9n9g63e3ue8tao4g@4ax.com...
On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11.
Al Qaeda waited far longer between the first WTC attack back in 1993,
and the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. What makes you think that the
Patriot Act has anything to do with their hiatus since 9/11?
It is all *****, there is no Al Qaeda except in the Bush's mind
So which conspiracy theory about 9/11 are you espousing?
The only conspiracy theory there is is the one Bush and his jews espouse!
"Bush and his jews"? I thought he was a Methodist Christian at 40.
Before that, he was an Episcopalian Christian.
And there are many more conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 than what
Bush and company are espousing.
For example: There is a conspiracy theory that, in fact, it was
Americans hired by the Bush Administration who hijacked the planes, so
that they could blame it on the Middle East and go to war in Iraq.
There is also a conspiracy theory that there was no plane that flew into
the Pentagon, but a shoulder-fired missile.
Your anger at the Bush Administration is misplaced.
<snip>
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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11 Jun 2005 09:02:51 AM |
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On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be enough
to pass re-enactment.
The english language contains the word "coincidence" for a very good
reason.
Mark.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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11 Jun 2005 02:04:17 PM |
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Mark Richardson <spam2oblivion@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:i5ala1pnqloa538q08pf7gt6srefqnjrfe@4ax.com:
On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be enough
to pass re-enactment.
The english language contains the word "coincidence" for a very good
reason.
They didn't make up the word "moonbat" for no reason either.
Coincidence! Oh brother, you better tell that one to the FBI, all those
terrorist cells that they've broken up since 9/11 were just a
coincidence!
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Men of learning suspect it little, and ignore it mostly.
-- H.P. Lovecraft, "Hypnos"
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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11 Jun 2005 06:23:54 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Mark Richardson <spam2oblivion@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:i5ala1pnqloa538q08pf7gt6srefqnjrfe@4ax.com:
On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be enough
to pass re-enactment.
The english language contains the word "coincidence" for a very good
reason.
They didn't make up the word "moonbat" for no reason either.
Moonbat isn't in my dictionary, but "*****" is. They didn't make up
the word "*****" for no reason either.
Coincidence! Oh brother, you better tell that one to the FBI, all those
terrorist cells that they've broken up since 9/11 were just a
coincidence!
And you'd better tell the FBI and CIA about all those terrorist cells
that have cropped up since 9/11 that it's just a coincidence!
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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12 Jun 2005 04:51:43 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:04:17 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Mark Richardson <spam2oblivion@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:i5ala1pnqloa538q08pf7gt6srefqnjrfe@4ax.com:
On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be enough
to pass re-enactment.
The english language contains the word "coincidence" for a very good
reason.
They didn't make up the word "moonbat" for no reason either.
Coincidence! Oh brother, you better tell that one to the FBI, all those
terrorist cells that they've broken up since 9/11 were just a
coincidence!
And were those terrorist cells broken up through the Patriot act or
through old fashined detective work?
Mark.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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12 Jun 2005 12:02:08 PM |
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Mark Richardson <spam2oblivion@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:rofna1t66msjki4kf4n7r5imiviooa7mk6@4ax.com:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:04:17 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
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Mark Richardson <spam2oblivion@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:i5ala1pnqloa538q08pf7gt6srefqnjrfe@4ax.com:
On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be
enough to pass re-enactment.
The english language contains the word "coincidence" for a very good
reason.
They didn't make up the word "moonbat" for no reason either.
Coincidence! Oh brother, you better tell that one to the FBI, all
those terrorist cells that they've broken up since 9/11 were just a
coincidence!
And were those terrorist cells broken up through the Patriot act or
through old fashined detective work?
There's a difference? All the Patriot Act does is to let the old
fashioned detectives get access to the information they need to do their
old fashioned jobs.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Men of learning suspect it little, and ignore it mostly.
-- H.P. Lovecraft, "Hypnos"
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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11 Jun 2005 07:23:04 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:02:51 +1000, Mark Richardson
<spam2oblivion@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be enough
to pass re-enactment.
The english language contains the word "coincidence" for a very good
reason.
Reminds me of the anthropologist who saw a clanging of drums by
tribesmen durng an eclipse. They told him it was to scare away the
giant dog that had eaten the sun - and you know it worked every time.
Mark.
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12 Jun 2005 04:52:20 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:23:04 -0400, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:02:51 +1000, Mark Richardson
<spam2oblivion@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be enough
to pass re-enactment.
The english language contains the word "coincidence" for a very good
reason.
Reminds me of the anthropologist who saw a clanging of drums by
tribesmen durng an eclipse. They told him it was to scare away the
giant dog that had eaten the sun - and you know it worked every time.
8-)
Exactly!
Mark
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| User: "stoney" |
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15 Jun 2005 10:41:15 PM |
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On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be enough
to pass re-enactment.
*****, oh fascist idiot.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
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16 Jun 2005 12:37:16 AM |
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Jerk-Off Young can change his name, but he cannot change his character!
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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: On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
: wrote:
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: >Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
: >legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
: >domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be enough
: >to pass re-enactment.
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: *****, oh fascist idiot.
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: Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
: Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
: Court who will ensure church and state are joined
: at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
: America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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: "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
: represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
: of the people. On some great and glorious day the
: plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
: desire at last and the White House will be adorned
: by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
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: Religion is the original war crime.
: -Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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01 Jul 2005 02:47:46 PM |
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On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be enough
to pass re-enactment.
Let the Constitution be damned, all that matters is security!
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"The highest patriotism is not a blind acceptance
of official policy, but a love of one's country
deep enough to call her to a higher standard."
--George McGovern
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| User: "Mickey" |
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30 Jun 2005 03:27:05 PM |
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<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On 10 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
Whatever criticism one may have with certain provisions of this
legislation, no one can deny it's effectiveness in curtailing any
domestic terrorist acts since 9/11. That point alone should be enough
to pass re-enactment.
Let the Constitution be damned, all that matters is security!
And what, pray tell, do you think is unconstitutional about the Patriot act?
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| User: "Jeff Welch" |
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01 Jul 2005 03:31:43 PM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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And what, pray tell, do you think is unconstitutional about the Patriot
act?
The right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures; and usurpment
of due process rights for two:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59626-2004Sep29.html
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/patriot_act_provision_ruled_unconstitutional.html
-Jeff
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"Jeff Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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And what, pray tell, do you think is unconstitutional about the Patriot
act?
The right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures; and
usurpment
of due process rights for two:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59626-2004Sep29.html
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/patriot_act_provision_ruled_uncons
titutional.html
And that portion was struck down, so I repeat the question
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01 Jul 2005 04:10:10 PM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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And that portion was struck down
And yet the law remains unchanged.
-Jeff
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01 Jul 2005 05:04:02 PM |
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"Jeff Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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And that portion was struck down
And yet the law remains unchanged.
Why change it? The portions that were struck down are now no longer part of
the law.
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01 Jul 2005 06:20:24 PM |
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On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:04:02 -0400, "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net>
wrote:
"Jeff Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120234208.3778f2c7ed94f4f8f9645a3fc95775a3@meganetnews2...
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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And that portion was struck down
And yet the law remains unchanged.
Why change it? The portions that were struck down are now no longer part of
the law.
Query has the Bush administration appealed them?
And if you know something about our court system you'll know that
decision is only law as to the Southern District of NY at this point.
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"The highest patriotism is not a blind acceptance
of official policy, but a love of one's country
deep enough to call her to a higher standard."
--George McGovern
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01 Jul 2005 06:23:26 PM |
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<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:04:02 -0400, "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net>
wrote:
"Jeff Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120234208.3778f2c7ed94f4f8f9645a3fc95775a3@meganetnews2...
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:kbCdnTdJy_R--VjfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
And that portion was struck down
And yet the law remains unchanged.
Why change it? The portions that were struck down are now no longer part
of
the law.
Query has the Bush administration appealed them?
And if you know something about our court system you'll know that
decision is only law as to the Southern District of NY at this point.
What the ***** are you babbling about? Once a portion of a law is struck down
by court of competence, it is null and void EVERYWHERE. You haven't the
foggiest clue, do you? You simply spew and assume no one else does either?
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