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User: "Michelle Malkin"
Date: 30 Sep 2004 08:59:35 PM
Object: Presidential Debate
I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.
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stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and
neither do we." George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
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User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 01 Oct 2004 04:00:40 AM
In article <wuOdnXNRm6mZJ8HcRVn-tw@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.

I lost track by the end of the evening of the number of times Georgie
went around, flailing at strawmen. It was pathetic. Then there was Rudy
Guilanni, trying afterwardds to say that Kerry had lost because of a
"contradiction" he had spotted.
I can't help wondering what sort of power ***** John McCain is, though.
He stands by the guy that destroyed him with a Rove-engineered dirty
trick in 2000. He might be charming in person, but I have no respect for
him at all. Idiot.
--
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User: "Veyanne"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 30 Sep 2004 11:10:50 PM
Michelle Malkin wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.

I liked it when Bush said that the terrorists in Iraq were fighting
back "vociferously". LOL! Didn't his handlers warn him about using
big words?
Well, let's hope that it matters this time.

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never

stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and
neither do we." George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

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User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 01 Oct 2004 01:32:47 AM
"Veyanne" <veyanne@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1096603850.740943.263550@h37g2000oda.googlegroups.com...

Michelle Malkin wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.


I liked it when Bush said that the terrorists in Iraq were fighting
back "vociferously". LOL! Didn't his handlers warn him about using
big words?

I imagine there's a lot of shouting when the insurgents attack. ;-)
Mickey


Well, let's hope that it matters this time.

Veyanne

.
User: ""

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 02 Oct 2004 07:41:00 PM
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 02:32:47 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:


"Veyanne" <veyanne@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1096603850.740943.263550@h37g2000oda.googlegroups.com...

Michelle Malkin wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.


I liked it when Bush said that the terrorists in Iraq were fighting
back "vociferously". LOL! Didn't his handlers warn him about using
big words?


I imagine there's a lot of shouting when the insurgents attack. ;-)

/cue "Insurgency" {Urgent} by, iirc, Foreigner.
**
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
.


User: "Mekkala"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 01 Oct 2004 09:13:26 AM
On Thu 30 Sep 2004 11:10:50p, "Veyanne" <veyanne@yahoo.com> kicked back
with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a joint,
then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:

Michelle Malkin wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.


I liked it when Bush said that the terrorists in Iraq were fighting
back "vociferously". LOL! Didn't his handlers warn him about using
big words?

Well, let's hope that it matters this time.

The trick to using big words, someone should inform Bush, is twofold.
First, you have to know how to say the word. That, Bush can handle.
Second, you have to know what the word means, and I'm afraid Bush is
severely lacking in that department.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
.


User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 30 Sep 2004 09:53:44 PM
Michelle Malkin wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.

I would agree with you Mickey except for one major issue.
The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.
By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.
Hell, my wife is at a Democratic Debate Party right now, and was told
today, the George W. Bush has "never lost" a debate. By folks at the
Democratic Party Headquarters. I find that hard to believe when it's
taken with the view that the troll like moron can't even form a good
sentence off the top of his head, much less, a coherent thought.
Of course I'll still vote for Kerry. I just wish the media could keep
out of it a bit more.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor

A.A #1143 ULC Minister
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 30 Sep 2004 10:24:05 PM
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <
> wrote in message
news:sltu22-7n51.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...

Michelle Malkin wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.

I would agree with you Mickey except for one major issue.

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.

All the moderators at MSNBC agreed that Kerry was the
winner. The people watching the debate won't forget that.
And, they won't forget what they saw themselves and tell
those who didn't watch exactly what happened. If the papers
& tv news start saying that Bush won the debate when he
obviously didn't, a lot of people will start to wake up to
what has been going on all these months with crooked tv
and newspaper writers and newspeople.
Bush was nervous, he looked worried, he had to stop and
think of what he was going to say, he repeated himself, he
lied, he even looked scared a couple times. He came close
to chewing his lips a few times. The only time Bush sounded
certain of himself was when he was repeating obviously
prepared speeches. He would just rattle off the sentences.
Kerry never looked uncertain, his answers were immediate,
he disproved several things Bush said, he pointed out factual
errors and clearly explained his reasoning and what he intended
to do. Some questions he couldn't answer in detail and said
that he would go into more detail later. I took this to mean the
final debate.


Hell, my wife is at a Democratic Debate Party right now, and was told
today, the George W. Bush has "never lost" a debate. By folks at the
Democratic Party Headquarters. I find that hard to believe when it's
taken with the view that the troll like moron can't even form a good
sentence off the top of his head, much less, a coherent thought.

Of course I'll still vote for Kerry. I just wish the media could keep
out of it a bit more.

The media won't have the nerve not to give this one to Kerry.
They know that the polls are phony and they know how many
newly registered probable voters are Democrats. They also know
that there is a very good chance that Bush will be out on his ear
come January.
I wonder if Bush will try to cut back to only two debates again. I
woudn't put it past the cowardly little twerp.
--
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alt.atheism atheist/agnostic list name collector
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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never
stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and
neither do we." George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004


--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor



A.A #1143 ULC Minister

Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________

.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 01 Oct 2004 12:43:24 AM
In article <bt-dnYRW0v9MUMHcRVn-iA@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
news:sltu22-7n51.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...

Michelle Malkin wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.

I would agree with you Mickey except for one major issue.

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.


All the moderators at MSNBC agreed that Kerry was the
winner. The people watching the debate won't forget that.
And, they won't forget what they saw themselves and tell
those who didn't watch exactly what happened. If the papers
& tv news start saying that Bush won the debate when he
obviously didn't, a lot of people will start to wake up to
what has been going on all these months with crooked tv
and newspaper writers and newspeople.

Bush was nervous, he looked worried, he had to stop and
think of what he was going to say, he repeated himself, he
lied, he even looked scared a couple times. He came close
to chewing his lips a few times. The only time Bush sounded
certain of himself was when he was repeating obviously
prepared speeches. He would just rattle off the sentences.

Kerry never looked uncertain, his answers were immediate,
he disproved several things Bush said, he pointed out factual
errors and clearly explained his reasoning and what he intended
to do. Some questions he couldn't answer in detail and said
that he would go into more detail later. I took this to mean the
final debate.


Hell, my wife is at a Democratic Debate Party right now, and was told
today, the George W. Bush has "never lost" a debate. By folks at the
Democratic Party Headquarters. I find that hard to believe when it's
taken with the view that the troll like moron can't even form a good
sentence off the top of his head, much less, a coherent thought.

Of course I'll still vote for Kerry. I just wish the media could keep
out of it a bit more.


The media won't have the nerve not to give this one to Kerry.
They know that the polls are phony and they know how many
newly registered probable voters are Democrats. They also know
that there is a very good chance that Bush will be out on his ear
come January.

I wonder if Bush will try to cut back to only two debates again. I
woudn't put it past the cowardly little twerp.


I think that Kerry had the clear advantage. Bush stammered, stuttered
and kept repeating himself.
I think that the next debate in St. Louis should be even more
interesting. It's a town hall type where they will have to questions
on a variety of subjects. I think that Bush will even have more
trouble.
That's if, as you say, he doesn't chicken out first.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
.

User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 01 Oct 2004 09:16:39 AM
Michelle Malkin wrote:

"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <

> wrote in message
news:sltu22-7n51.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...

Michelle Malkin wrote:


I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.


I would agree with you Mickey except for one major issue.

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.



All the moderators at MSNBC agreed that Kerry was the
winner. The people watching the debate won't forget that.
And, they won't forget what they saw themselves and tell
those who didn't watch exactly what happened. If the papers
& tv news start saying that Bush won the debate when he
obviously didn't, a lot of people will start to wake up to
what has been going on all these months with crooked tv
and newspaper writers and newspeople.

Bush was nervous, he looked worried, he had to stop and
think of what he was going to say, he repeated himself, he
lied, he even looked scared a couple times. He came close
to chewing his lips a few times. The only time Bush sounded
certain of himself was when he was repeating obviously
prepared speeches. He would just rattle off the sentences.

Kerry never looked uncertain, his answers were immediate,
he disproved several things Bush said, he pointed out factual
errors and clearly explained his reasoning and what he intended
to do. Some questions he couldn't answer in detail and said
that he would go into more detail later. I took this to mean the
final debate.

Hell, my wife is at a Democratic Debate Party right now, and was told
today, the George W. Bush has "never lost" a debate. By folks at the
Democratic Party Headquarters. I find that hard to believe when it's
taken with the view that the troll like moron can't even form a good
sentence off the top of his head, much less, a coherent thought.

Of course I'll still vote for Kerry. I just wish the media could keep
out of it a bit more.



The media won't have the nerve not to give this one to Kerry.
They know that the polls are phony and they know how many
newly registered probable voters are Democrats. They also know
that there is a very good chance that Bush will be out on his ear
come January.

I wonder if Bush will try to cut back to only two debates again. I
woudn't put it past the cowardly little twerp.


Well, considering the fact that the third one is supposed to be here in
AZ, and about the economy and domestic policy, yeah, I can see the
little troll running away from that one too.
I would say that Kerry did baste Bush in his own fat during the debate,
and was clearly the logical winner. And this morning, a number of media
outlets are giving the debate to Kerry.
So I hope I'm wrong on my original post, and maybe, we will have a good
turn out this time.
But I ain't holding my breath about it.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor

A.A #1143 ULC Minister
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 02 Oct 2004 07:37:56 PM
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 07:16:39 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:

Michelle Malkin wrote:

"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
news:sltu22-7n51.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...

Michelle Malkin wrote:


I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.


I would agree with you Mickey except for one major issue.

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.



All the moderators at MSNBC agreed that Kerry was the
winner. The people watching the debate won't forget that.
And, they won't forget what they saw themselves and tell
those who didn't watch exactly what happened. If the papers
& tv news start saying that Bush won the debate when he
obviously didn't, a lot of people will start to wake up to
what has been going on all these months with crooked tv
and newspaper writers and newspeople.

Bush was nervous, he looked worried, he had to stop and
think of what he was going to say, he repeated himself, he
lied, he even looked scared a couple times. He came close
to chewing his lips a few times. The only time Bush sounded
certain of himself was when he was repeating obviously
prepared speeches. He would just rattle off the sentences.

Kerry never looked uncertain, his answers were immediate,
he disproved several things Bush said, he pointed out factual
errors and clearly explained his reasoning and what he intended
to do. Some questions he couldn't answer in detail and said
that he would go into more detail later. I took this to mean the
final debate.

Hell, my wife is at a Democratic Debate Party right now, and was told
today, the George W. Bush has "never lost" a debate. By folks at the
Democratic Party Headquarters. I find that hard to believe when it's
taken with the view that the troll like moron can't even form a good
sentence off the top of his head, much less, a coherent thought.

Of course I'll still vote for Kerry. I just wish the media could keep
out of it a bit more.



The media won't have the nerve not to give this one to Kerry.
They know that the polls are phony and they know how many
newly registered probable voters are Democrats. They also know
that there is a very good chance that Bush will be out on his ear
come January.

I wonder if Bush will try to cut back to only two debates again. I
woudn't put it past the cowardly little twerp.


Well, considering the fact that the third one is supposed to be here in
AZ, and about the economy and domestic policy, yeah, I can see the
little troll running away from that one too.

I would say that Kerry did baste Bush in his own fat during the debate,
and was clearly the logical winner. And this morning, a number of media
outlets are giving the debate to Kerry.

So I hope I'm wrong on my original post, and maybe, we will have a good
turn out this time.

But I ain't holding my breath about it.

Give it a week or three while the control freaks bury it deep.
**
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
.


User: "Fear gan dia"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 01 Oct 2004 12:47:50 AM
Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by "Michelle Malkin"
in <bt-dnYRW0v9MUMHcRVn-iA@comcast.com>:

I wonder if Bush will try to cut back to only two debates again. I
woudn't put it past the cowardly little twerp.

Maybe he'll insist on being allowed to sit on Cheney the *****'s
knee for the next two debates.
--
The Very Irrev. Fear gan dia # http://goddamliberal.port5.com
"President Nixon was almost impeached for a burglary at the
Democratic Headquarters; President Clinton was impeached for
having sex with an intern. But President George W. Bush lied
to the Congress and the nation, instigated an illegitimate
war that killed thousands of people, invaded a sovereign
nation, and violated international law. No president has ever
provided such indisputable grounds for impeachment."
- Dr. Helen Caldicott, _The New Nuclear Danger_
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 02 Oct 2004 07:37:06 PM
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:47:50 GMT, "Fear gan dia"
<dnqhqrqtbhnq@nrsrdtsrqsln.com> wrote:

Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by "Michelle Malkin"
in <bt-dnYRW0v9MUMHcRVn-iA@comcast.com>:

I wonder if Bush will try to cut back to only two debates again. I
woudn't put it past the cowardly little twerp.


Maybe he'll insist on being allowed to sit on Cheney the *****'s
knee for the next two debates.

That's not *****'s knee Bush is sitting on.....
**
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
.



User: "Danti"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 01 Oct 2004 07:09:14 AM
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
news:sltu22-7n51.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...

Michelle Malkin wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.

I would agree with you Mickey except for one major issue.

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate,
and Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are
elected in the media. And the media is having a field day with this
election.

presidents are not elected by the media.....those who comprise the
electorial college are not likely to be influenced by the media....who
btw are behaving rather well...

Hell, my wife is at a Democratic Debate Party right now, and was
told today, the George W. Bush has "never lost" a debate. By folks
at the Democratic Party Headquarters. I find that hard to believe
when it's taken with the view that the troll like moron can't even
form a good sentence off the top of his head, much less, a coherent
thought.

Of course I'll still vote for Kerry. I just wish the media could
keep out of it a bit more.

.

User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 30 Sep 2004 10:14:48 PM
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
news:sltu22-7n51.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...

Michelle Malkin wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.

I would agree with you Mickey except for one major issue.

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.

Really? Damn, I only watched it for about five minutes and Bush came across
like a stuttering moron.
--
__________
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 01 Oct 2004 11:17:20 AM
In our last thrilling episode, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> was pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on
Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:44 -0700 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he
fell, he screamed:

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.

Even Fox News was calling it a Kerry win.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.
User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 01 Oct 2004 12:43:58 PM
Douglas Berry wrote:

In our last thrilling episode, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<

> was pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on
Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:44 -0700 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he
fell, he screamed:


The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.



Even Fox News was calling it a Kerry win.

I know, strange.
However, I love it when I'm wrong. Especially on politics. Shows that
there is still a chance for the American people.
A chance for them to pull their heads out and do the right thing this
time around.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor

A.A #1143 ULC Minister
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 02 Oct 2004 07:39:49 PM
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:43:58 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

In our last thrilling episode, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> was pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on
Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:44 -0700 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he
fell, he screamed:


The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.



Even Fox News was calling it a Kerry win.

I know, strange.

However, I love it when I'm wrong. Especially on politics. Shows that
there is still a chance for the American people.

A chance for them to pull their heads out and do the right thing this
time around.

/innocent look
You mean get some real candidates?
**
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
.


User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 01 Oct 2004 11:25:43 AM
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:17:20 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

In our last thrilling episode, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> was pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on
Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:44 -0700 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he
fell, he screamed:

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.


Even Fox News was calling it a Kerry win.

I didn't see it. I try to avoid listening to Bush and his handlers
because I end up shouting and swearing at the radio.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 02 Oct 2004 07:39:09 PM
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:25:43 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:17:20 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

In our last thrilling episode, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> was pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on
Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:44 -0700 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he
fell, he screamed:

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.


Even Fox News was calling it a Kerry win.


I didn't see it. I try to avoid listening to Bush and his handlers
because I end up shouting and swearing at the radio.

I didn't see it, either. I won't watch any of them.
**
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
.
User: "wbarwell"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 02 Oct 2004 12:37:30 PM
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:25:43 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:17:20 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

In our last thrilling episode, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> was pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on
Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:44 -0700 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he
fell, he screamed:

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.


Even Fox News was calling it a Kerry win.


I didn't see it. I try to avoid listening to Bush and his handlers
because I end up shouting and swearing at the radio.


I didn't see it, either. I won't watch any of them.

I'll have to watch the next one.
It will be fun to see how twitchy AWOL gets.
Maybe they'll tranquilize him lightly before the
show.
--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero
Cheerful Charlie
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 03 Oct 2004 11:26:50 PM
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:37:30 -0400, wbarwell
<wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

stoney@the.net wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:25:43 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:17:20 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

In our last thrilling episode, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> was pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on
Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:44 -0700 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he
fell, he screamed:

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.


Even Fox News was calling it a Kerry win.


I didn't see it. I try to avoid listening to Bush and his handlers
because I end up shouting and swearing at the radio.


I didn't see it, either. I won't watch any of them.



I'll have to watch the next one.
It will be fun to see how twitchy AWOL gets.
Maybe they'll tranquilize him lightly before the
show.

/innocent look
Like the person being approached should have been?
http://www.goyk.com/flash.asp?path=590
**
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
.
User: "Tukla Ratte"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 04 Oct 2004 05:02:03 PM
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:37:30 -0400, wbarwell
<wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote:

< snip >

Maybe they'll tranquilize him lightly before the
show.



/innocent look
Like the person being approached should have been?
http://www.goyk.com/flash.asp?path=590

Jeez. I have to *pay* women for that kind of treatment. Lucky *****.
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 04 Oct 2004 08:03:57 PM
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:02:03 -0500, Tukla Ratte
<tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote:

stoney@the.net wrote:

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:37:30 -0400, wbarwell
<wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote:


< snip >

Maybe they'll tranquilize him lightly before the
show.



/innocent look
Like the person being approached should have been?
http://www.goyk.com/flash.asp?path=590


Jeez. I have to *pay* women for that kind of treatment. Lucky *****.

:)))
**
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
.



User: "keith"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 02 Oct 2004 08:35:15 PM
wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message news:<415ef421$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com>...

stoney@the.net wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:25:43 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:17:20 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

In our last thrilling episode, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> was pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on
Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:44 -0700 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he
fell, he screamed:

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.


Even Fox News was calling it a Kerry win.


I didn't see it. I try to avoid listening to Bush and his handlers
because I end up shouting and swearing at the radio.


I didn't see it, either. I won't watch any of them.



I'll have to watch the next one.
It will be fun to see how twitchy AWOL gets.
Maybe they'll tranquilize him lightly before the
show.

William and all: Bush's performance in the debate was the worst thing
I've seen since Perot's running mate Admiral Stockdale asked "why am I
here?". But true to form, Tim Russert called the debate a tie!
Unbelievable.
see you later
keith
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 03 Oct 2004 11:28:31 PM
On 2 Oct 2004 18:35:15 -0700,
(keith) wrote:

wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message news:<415ef421$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com>...

stoney@the.net wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:25:43 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:17:20 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

In our last thrilling episode, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> was pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on
Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:44 -0700 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he
fell, he screamed:

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.


Even Fox News was calling it a Kerry win.


I didn't see it. I try to avoid listening to Bush and his handlers
because I end up shouting and swearing at the radio.


I didn't see it, either. I won't watch any of them.



I'll have to watch the next one.
It will be fun to see how twitchy AWOL gets.
Maybe they'll tranquilize him lightly before the
show.



William and all: Bush's performance in the debate was the worst thing
I've seen since Perot's running mate Admiral Stockdale asked "why am I
here?". But true to form, Tim Russert called the debate a tie!
Unbelievable.

Disagree. What else could Tim do? If he would have said "Bush had
his ***** handed to him from the start" he would have been in dire peril
of being given a Gitmo vacation.
**
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
.






User: "Eris"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 30 Sep 2004 10:05:46 PM
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:44 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:

Michelle Malkin wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.

I would agree with you Mickey except for one major issue.

The spin doctors have not gotten their turn yet.

By tomorrow morning, Shurb will be the clear victor in the debate, and
Kerry will look the fool. It is a sad fact, that presidents are elected
in the media. And the media is having a field day with this election.

Hell, my wife is at a Democratic Debate Party right now, and was told
today, the George W. Bush has "never lost" a debate. By folks at the
Democratic Party Headquarters. I find that hard to believe when it's
taken with the view that the troll like moron can't even form a good
sentence off the top of his head, much less, a coherent thought.

Of course I'll still vote for Kerry. I just wish the media could keep
out of it a bit more.

the instant polls show Kerry besting Bush 47 to 36. But these same
people are voting for Bush 51 to 40 something for Kerry.
Go figure.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 01 Oct 2004 06:08:22 PM
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:59:35 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.

Perhaps this time around, more intelligent discussion in the
newsgroups might bypass the spin that will come out on the mainstream
media. Maybe more than anyone thinks, many more people are online
today than in 2000, and spin doctors look ridiculous in the
newsgroups.
The original debate will stay in it's original form without distortion
on the Internet, rather than fade away into a cloud of nebulous
propaganda
Maybe more voters will remember the debate and reject the spin..
drift
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Presidential Debate 02 Oct 2004 10:05:28 PM
<drift@lost.net> wrote in message
news:agorl0lrtbuck33ei01vca84dbcl3tg1fa@4ax.com...

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:59:35 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

I've been watching the debate for almost an hour and one
thing is clear - Bush is on the defensive and Kerry is absolutley
coming across with great certainty. Bush has misrepresented
Kerry more than once and has pulled the flip/flop bit (without
using those those words) more than once. Kerry stated his point
of view and Bush totally ignored it. So far, Kerry is definitely
winning the debate.



Perhaps this time around, more intelligent discussion in the
newsgroups might bypass the spin that will come out on the mainstream
media. Maybe more than anyone thinks, many more people are online
today than in 2000, and spin doctors look ridiculous in the
newsgroups.

I'm watching Howard Dean on the Tim Russert Show right now,
and that is exactly what he just said. The ultra-Right Wing hates
and fears the Internet, even while they use it to spread their lies.
Dean didn't say that. I did.


The original debate will stay in it's original form without distortion
on the Internet, rather than fade away into a cloud of nebulous
propaganda

Maybe more voters will remember the debate and reject the spin..
drift

I certainly hope so. I remember that ALL the commentators right
after the debate, both Republican and Democrat, said that Kerry
won for many reasons. By the next day, the spinners were at work
lying their heads off.
.



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