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"Charles Martel" |
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18 Feb 2006 07:12:16 PM |
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Prisoner Abuse Photos - admittedly a bit nasty |
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| User: "Father Fred" |
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| Title: Re: Prisoner Abuse Photos - admittedly a bit nasty |
19 Feb 2006 12:50:42 PM |
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"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Like a day at the park compared to the routine goings on at any Muslim
prison anywhere in the Muslim world.
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19 Feb 2006 01:11:12 PM |
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"Father Fred" <FF@google.ca> wrote in
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"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Like a day at the park compared to the routine goings on at any Muslim
prison anywhere in the Muslim world.
Aspire the be the worst, eh?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
Thank God, under our Constitution there was no connection between Church
and State, and that in my action as President of the United States I
recognized no distinction of creeds in my appointments to office.
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| User: " torresD" |
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| Title: Re: Prisoner Abuse Photos - admittedly a bit nasty |
19 Feb 2006 02:23:21 PM |
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Horrific pictures
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11923.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/4716280.stm
Should It Be Closed?
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=1102&&edition=2&ttl=20060217203402
http://www.btselem.org/English/Video/20060130_Separation_Barrier_Testimony_of_Abd_a_Latif_Odeh.asp
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| User: "Adam H." |
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19 Feb 2006 01:00:41 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:50:42 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
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"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
Like a day at the park compared to the routine goings on at any Muslim
prison anywhere in the Muslim world.
Ah, there it is. The "they're worse so what we do is okay' school of
mindless justification.
---
I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it
‘Republican’, but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I’ll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
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| User: "Father Fred" |
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19 Feb 2006 03:16:53 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:50:42 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
Like a day at the park compared to the routine goings on at any Muslim
prison anywhere in the Muslim world.
Ah, there it is. The "they're worse so what we do is okay' school of
mindless justification.
It's not justification, it's context. Some Muslim scumbag kills hundreds for
fun and the world yawns. Let one American or Israeli or British soldier get
caught being rude to a prisoner and all those yawners start screaming in
horror and clutching at their hair.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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19 Feb 2006 03:31:21 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:16:53 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:50:42 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
Like a day at the park compared to the routine goings on at any Muslim
prison anywhere in the Muslim world.
Ah, there it is. The "they're worse so what we do is okay' school of
mindless justification.
It's not justification, it's context. Some Muslim scumbag kills hundreds for
fun and the world yawns. Let one American or Israeli or British soldier get
caught being rude to a prisoner and all those yawners start screaming in
horror and clutching at their hair.
No, the 'context', as you say, is that if America is going to
continually tell everyone else how much better and more civilized they
are, and they do, then everyone else is going expect them to BE
better. America is judged to higher standards because America claims
to HAVE higher standards. It works the same for Canada and I say
that's how it should be. If you're going to stand up and claim to be
better then you must expect to be held to that claim.
---
I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it
‘Republican’, but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I’ll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
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| User: "Father Fred" |
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19 Feb 2006 05:18:46 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:16:53 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:50:42 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
Like a day at the park compared to the routine goings on at any Muslim
prison anywhere in the Muslim world.
Ah, there it is. The "they're worse so what we do is okay' school of
mindless justification.
It's not justification, it's context. Some Muslim scumbag kills hundreds
for
fun and the world yawns. Let one American or Israeli or British soldier
get
caught being rude to a prisoner and all those yawners start screaming in
horror and clutching at their hair.
No, the 'context', as you say, is that if America is going to
continually tell everyone else how much better and more civilized they
are, and they do, then everyone else is going expect them to BE
better. America is judged to higher standards because America claims
to HAVE higher standards. It works the same for Canada and I say
that's how it should be. If you're going to stand up and claim to be
better then you must expect to be held to that claim.
Fine. When the pictures start showing Americans gouging out prisoners eyes
with spoons or sticking red-hot iron pokers up their anuses you can get back
to me.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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19 Feb 2006 05:58:14 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:18:46 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:16:53 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:50:42 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
Like a day at the park compared to the routine goings on at any Muslim
prison anywhere in the Muslim world.
Ah, there it is. The "they're worse so what we do is okay' school of
mindless justification.
It's not justification, it's context. Some Muslim scumbag kills hundreds
for
fun and the world yawns. Let one American or Israeli or British soldier
get
caught being rude to a prisoner and all those yawners start screaming in
horror and clutching at their hair.
No, the 'context', as you say, is that if America is going to
continually tell everyone else how much better and more civilized they
are, and they do, then everyone else is going expect them to BE
better. America is judged to higher standards because America claims
to HAVE higher standards. It works the same for Canada and I say
that's how it should be. If you're going to stand up and claim to be
better then you must expect to be held to that claim.
Fine. When the pictures start showing Americans gouging out prisoners eyes
with spoons or sticking red-hot iron pokers up their anuses you can get back
to me.
Ah, yes. "America - proud to be not quite the worst."
---
I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it
‘Republican’, but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I’ll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
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| User: "Father Fred" |
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19 Feb 2006 06:39:55 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:18:46 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:16:53 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:50:42 -0500, "Father Fred" <FF@google.ca>
wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
Like a day at the park compared to the routine goings on at any Muslim
prison anywhere in the Muslim world.
Ah, there it is. The "they're worse so what we do is okay' school of
mindless justification.
It's not justification, it's context. Some Muslim scumbag kills hundreds
for
fun and the world yawns. Let one American or Israeli or British soldier
get
caught being rude to a prisoner and all those yawners start screaming in
horror and clutching at their hair.
No, the 'context', as you say, is that if America is going to
continually tell everyone else how much better and more civilized they
are, and they do, then everyone else is going expect them to BE
better. America is judged to higher standards because America claims
to HAVE higher standards. It works the same for Canada and I say
that's how it should be. If you're going to stand up and claim to be
better then you must expect to be held to that claim.
Fine. When the pictures start showing Americans gouging out prisoners eyes
with spoons or sticking red-hot iron pokers up their anuses you can get
back
to me.
Ah, yes. "America - proud to be not quite the worst."
More like not anywhere near the worst. Which calls to mind the question - if
they're not anywhere near the worst why aren't you busily screaming about
the excesses of those who ARE the worst?
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| User: "Ordog" |
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19 Feb 2006 08:02:45 PM |
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Father Fred wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
Fine. When the pictures start showing Americans gouging out prisoners e=
yes
with spoons or sticking red-hot iron pokers up their anuses you can get
back to me.
Hmmm. It seems to me The US is quite happy that certain countries
torture so happily.
Sending prisoners for just such treatment around the world keeps their
hands "clean".
Ah, yes. "America - proud to be not quite the worst."
More like not anywhere near the worst. Which calls to mind the question -=
if
they're not anywhere near the worst why aren't you busily screaming about
the excesses of those who ARE the worst?
But the US lectures everyone on jut about every issue starting with
economy and finishing with Xtian morality. This turns most non
Americans away from supporting the USA in view of the obvious
hypocracy. The USA happily supports regimes that have extremely bad
records as far as human rights go. This includes (but not restricted
to) Turkey, Israel, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
So your position is irrelevant.
Nobody is approving the Islamic fanaticism. But that does not mean an
automatic acceptance of uncivilised behaviour on the part of the Big
Brother USA.
=D6rd=F6g
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!" |
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18 Feb 2006 07:31:31 PM |
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"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
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There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
.... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
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| User: "Ordog" |
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18 Feb 2006 08:21:54 PM |
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Liberty DEFEATS Islam! wrote:
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
In this barrel there are more rotten than not. If you think about it
really hard you might realise that it is not at all surprising.
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
And you would know that for a fact? HOW?
Have they taught you that at a neocon indoctrination camp where you
must be one of those regulars?
=D6rd=F6g
Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "Charles Martel" |
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18 Feb 2006 11:11:26 PM |
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"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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Liberty DEFEATS Islam! wrote:
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
In this barrel there are more rotten than not. If you think about it
really hard you might realise that it is not at all surprising.
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
And you would know that for a fact? HOW?
Have they taught you that at a neocon indoctrination camp where you
must be one of those regulars?
Are you blind and deaf?
How can you miss all the signs?
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| User: "Ordog" |
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19 Feb 2006 05:49:47 AM |
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Charles Martel wrote:
"Ordog" wrote in message
Liberty DEFEATS Islam! wrote:
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
In this barrel there are more rotten than not. If you think about it
really hard you might realise that it is not at all surprising.
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
And you would know that for a fact? HOW?
Have they taught you that at a neocon indoctrination camp where you
must be one of those regulars?
Are you blind and deaf?
How can you miss all the signs?
Oh I see all sorts of signs everywhere. From the fanatical Isalamists
to the fanatical neocons there are just too many confusing fireworks
for anyone to miss.
The question is what can be done about this upheaval?
The very first step would be to restore sanity into most discussions.
But I am not expecting help from your quarter that is for sure.
=D6rd=F6g
Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "" |
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18 Feb 2006 10:08:34 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:31:31 -0600, "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Susan
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| User: "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!" |
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19 Feb 2006 06:11:11 AM |
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"lfaviaR@verizon.net" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:31:31 -0600, "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Susan
It would love to hear your argument as to why the above is racism and I
invite you to share it with us and educate us.
Somehow, I don't believe you are capable.
Prove me wrong.
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| User: "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!" |
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19 Feb 2006 08:42:40 AM |
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"Liberty DEFEATS Islam!" <dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote in
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"lfaviaR@verizon.net" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:31:31 -0600, "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Susan
It would love to hear your argument as to why the above is racism and I
invite you to share it with us and educate us.
Somehow, I don't believe you are capable.
Prove me wrong.
Cat got your tongue, Susan?
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19 Feb 2006 11:05:36 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:42:40 -0600, "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Liberty DEFEATS Islam!" <dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote in
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"lfaviaR@verizon.net" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:31:31 -0600, "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Susan
It would love to hear your argument as to why the above is racism and I
invite you to share it with us and educate us.
Somehow, I don't believe you are capable.
Prove me wrong.
Cat got your tongue, Susan?
No, scumbag. I don't bother tryoing to reason w/bgots.
Susan
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| User: "Ordog" |
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19 Feb 2006 06:29:32 AM |
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Liberty DEFEATS Islam! wrote:
"lfaviaR@verizon.net" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Susan
It would love to hear your argument as to why the above is racism and I
invite you to share it with us and educate us.
Somehow, I don't believe you are capable.
Prove me wrong.
I somehow don't believe you capable of understanding any sane
arguments.
However let me reapeat what I have already stated higher up in the
thread:
Back to the kindergarten.
Let me explain it in simple terms:
Consider this: How many muslim white supremacist Anglo-Celt Americans
do you know?
I recon not many.
So how many Arabic (ie. semitic), African (ie. black) and Asian(ie.
yellow) muslims have you heard of? I recon millions.
So whinging about muslims amounts to whinging about anyone who is not a
white Anglo-Celt.
Is that simple enough to understand?
=D6rd=F6g
Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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19 Feb 2006 11:05:31 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 06:11:11 -0600, "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"lfaviaR@verizon.net" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:31:31 -0600, "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Susan
It would love to hear your argument as to why the above is racism and I
invite you to share it with us and educate us.
Somehow, I don't believe you are capable.
Prove me wrong.
I'm a jew and I don't have to prove anything to assholes like you.
Susan
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| User: "Pink Freud" |
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18 Feb 2006 10:30:05 PM |
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"lfaviaR@verizon.net" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:31:31 -0600, "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Susan
Please can you point out the racism in the above, 'cos ya got me stumped.
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19 Feb 2006 11:05:30 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 04:30:05 +0000 (UTC), "Pink Freud"
<somewhere@around.com> wrote:
"lfaviaR@verizon.net" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:31:31 -0600, "Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Susan
Please can you point out the racism in the above, 'cos ya got me stumped.
Your stumped because your a bgoted *****.
Susan
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| User: "Ordog" |
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| Title: Re: Few bad apples |
18 Feb 2006 10:45:41 PM |
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Pink Freud wrote:
"lfaviaR@verizon.net" wrote
"Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Please can you point out the racism in the above, 'cos ya got me stumped.
Back to the kindergarten.
Let me explain it in simple terms:
Consider this: How many muslim white supremacist Anglo-Celt Americans
do you know?
I recon not many.
So haw many Arabic (ie. semitic), African (ie. black) and Asian(ie.
yellow) muslims have you heard of? I recon millions.
So whinging about muslims amounts to whinging about anyone who is not a
white Anglo-Celt.
Is that simple enough to understand?
=D6rd=F6g
Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "Charles Martel" |
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| Title: Re: Few bad apples |
18 Feb 2006 11:13:58 PM |
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"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1140324341.463542.300500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Pink Freud wrote:
"lfaviaR@verizon.net" wrote
"Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Please can you point out the racism in the above, 'cos ya got me stumped.
Back to the kindergarten.
Let me explain it in simple terms:
Consider this: How many muslim white supremacist Anglo-Celt Americans
do you know?
I recon not many.
So haw many Arabic (ie. semitic), African (ie. black) and Asian(ie.
yellow) muslims have you heard of? I recon millions.
So whinging about muslims amounts to whinging about anyone who is not a
white Anglo-Celt.
Is that simple enough to understand?
It is entirely flawed. There are Muslims of many races, including
white-anglo Celts.
Whining about Muslims is more akin to whining about Fascists.
If you knew anything about either you could do nothing but admit that.
But you don't so you wont.
Ignorant and in denial, I will presume.
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| User: "Father Fred" |
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| Title: Re: Few bad apples |
19 Feb 2006 12:53:19 PM |
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"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1140324341.463542.300500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Pink Freud wrote:
"lfaviaR@verizon.net" wrote
"Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Please can you point out the racism in the above, 'cos ya got me stumped.
Back to the kindergarten.
Let me explain it in simple terms:
Consider this: How many muslim white supremacist Anglo-Celt Americans
do you know?
I recon not many.
So haw many Arabic (ie. semitic), African (ie. black) and Asian(ie.
yellow) muslims have you heard of? I recon millions.
So whinging about muslims amounts to whinging about anyone who is not a
white Anglo-Celt.
Is that simple enough to understand?
That's not simple. It's simple-minded. Disliking Muslims based on what one
sees of their behaviour is not racism by any stretch of the imagination. Now
if you disliked Muslims because of their skin colour or ethnic origin that
could be seen as racism, but I hardly think this is the case. No one is
sneering at Hindus, for example, while Pakistani/Indian Muslims are of the
exact same ethnic origins and draw a lot of doubt and suspicion.
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| User: "Charles Martel" |
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| Title: Re: Few bad apples |
18 Feb 2006 11:33:09 PM |
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"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1140324341.463542.300500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Pink Freud wrote:
"lfaviaR@verizon.net" wrote
"Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Please can you point out the racism in the above, 'cos ya got me stumped.
Back to the kindergarten.
Let me explain it in simple terms:
Consider this: How many muslim white supremacist Anglo-Celt Americans
do you know?
I recon not many.
So haw many Arabic (ie. semitic), African (ie. black) and Asian(ie.
yellow) muslims have you heard of? I recon millions.
So whinging about muslims amounts to whinging about anyone who is not a
white Anglo-Celt.
Is that simple enough to understand?
Ördög
Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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It is entirely flawed. There are Muslims of many races, including
white-anglo Celts.
Whining about Muslims is more akin to whining about Fascists.
If you knew anything about either you could do nothing but admit that.
But you don't so you wont.
Ignorant or in denial, I will presume.
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| User: "Pink Freud" |
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| Title: Re: Few bad apples |
19 Feb 2006 05:09:10 AM |
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"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:WrTJf.7385$_D5.498367@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1140324341.463542.300500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Pink Freud wrote:
"lfaviaR@verizon.net" wrote
"Liberty DEFEATS Islam!"
<dontcalluswellcallyou@gonefishing.org> wrote:
"Charles Martel" <charlesmartel@gmail.com> wrote
news:nDPJf.7233$_D5.479428@news20.bellglobal.com...
There always a few bad apples in every barrel ...
... except in Islam were there are a few GOOD apples - the rest are
bad.
I'm surprised that you would come up w/such a racist comment.
Well, maybe I'm not surprised.
Please can you point out the racism in the above, 'cos ya got me stumped.
Back to the kindergarten.
Let me explain it in simple terms:
Consider this: How many muslim white supremacist Anglo-Celt Americans
do you know?
I recon not many.
So haw many Arabic (ie. semitic), African (ie. black) and Asian(ie.
yellow) muslims have you heard of? I recon millions.
So whinging about muslims amounts to whinging about anyone who is not a
white Anglo-Celt.
Is that simple enough to understand?
Well....n-n-n-no... No, no it's not. What about Hindus? And Sikhs? Are they
all white supremacist Anglo-Celt Americans? Jeez. What about Christian
Indians?
I was using irony to illustrate a point about the previous post.
Is that simple enough to understand?
Ördög
Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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It is entirely flawed. There are Muslims of many races, including
white-anglo Celts.
Whining about Muslims is more akin to whining about Fascists.
If you knew anything about either you could do nothing but admit that.
But you don't so you wont.
Ignorant or in denial, I will presume.
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| User: "Ordog" |
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| Title: Re: Few bad apples |
19 Feb 2006 06:04:24 AM |
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Pink Freud wrote:
"Charles Martel" wrote
"Ordog" wrote
Pink Freud wrote:
Please can you point out the racism in the above, 'cos ya got me stump=
ed.
Back to the kindergarten.
Let me explain it in simple terms:
Consider this: How many muslim white supremacist Anglo-Celt Americans
do you know?
I recon not many.
So how many Arabic (ie. semitic), African (ie. black) and Asian(ie.
yellow) muslims have you heard of? I recon millions.
So whinging about muslims amounts to whinging about anyone who is not a
white Anglo-Celt.
Is that simple enough to understand?
Well....n-n-n-no... No, no it's not. What about Hindus? And Sikhs? Are th=
ey
all white supremacist Anglo-Celt Americans? Jeez. What about Christian
Indians?
True! White supremacists whinge about anyone who is not white and not
of the preferred ethnic background! But in this particular instance we
are dealing with a complex issue that incorporates religion, racism and
political affiliation.
On the surface all of this outrage is about the muslims but in truth
there are a number of not so well hiden agendas in the background that
are being diligently pursued as the original post clearly indicates!
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Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "Ordog" |
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| Title: Re: Few bad apples |
19 Feb 2006 05:38:20 AM |
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Charles Martel wrote:
"Ordog" wrote:
Consider this: How many muslim white supremacist Anglo-Celt Americans
do you know?
I recon not many.
So how many Arabic (ie. semitic), African (ie. black) and Asian(ie.
yellow) muslims have you heard of? I recon millions.
So whinging about muslims amounts to whinging about anyone who is not a
white Anglo-Celt.
Is that simple enough to understand?
It is entirely flawed. There are Muslims of many races, including
white-anglo Celts.
I challenge you to present figures how many muslim white supremacist
Anglo-Celt Americans are there.
I'll bet there are none!
You are peddling here *****! And trolling too:
soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.israel,
alt.atheism, alt.religion.islam,alt.politics.bush. Eh?
Whining about Muslims is more akin to whining about Fascists.
Said like a true neocon propagandist! So you equate Islam with Fascism
(and if I'll push you more, you'll bring up Nazism too). Should I call
on Godwin's Law just as preventive measure?
If you knew anything about either you could do nothing but admit that.
Don't lecture me on Islam or Fascism. Don't tempt me showing you just
how much more I know about such things.
But you don't so you wont.
Ignorant or in denial, I will presume.
Presume what you may, you and your fellow propagandists are no better
than the worst kind of muslim fanatics. And this is the real issue I
have seen in this and some similar threads.
The true ignorant is you around here. You keep on pretending that you
have been not found out. But you have been! So move on!
=D0=97=D0=B4=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D1=83=D0=B9=D1=82=D0=B5 (d=
efinitely not Shalom)!
=C3=96rd=C3=B6g
Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
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20 Feb 2006 01:23:19 PM |
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Charles Martel wrote...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158187.php
Obviously trying to deflect attention from the U.S. atrocities by showing
Iraqi and other moozlum atrocities. Does matching the barbarity of the
moozlum savages make us more righteous?
It's amazing how Orwellian the Bush administration can be, using the
classic example of doublethink to promote slogans of opposing tyranny and
dictatorships and supporting freedom and democracy, all while they rig
elections, spy on citizens, and grant nearly unlimited powers to the
presidency. In other words, Saddam was bad because he used the secret
police to spy on people and tortured them for information, but GWB is
good because he uses the secret police to spy on people and torture them
for information.
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"To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while
telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions
which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in
both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while
laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that
the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget, whatever it was
necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the
moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and
above all, to apply the same process to the process itself - that was
the ultimate subtlety; consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then,
once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just
performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use
of doublethink."
-- 1984
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