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26 Oct 2007 05:28:20 PM |
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"Pro-Choice" Supporters Are Worshipping False Idols |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1914276/posts
Cardinal: Pro-choice supporters worshipping false idols
Lincoln Journal Star ^ | 10/20/07 | Bob Reeves
Posted on 10/21/2007 11:14:11 AM PDT by wagglebee
People who support abortion, euthanasia and embryonic stem cell
research are worshipping "modern-day false idols," Cardinal Justin
Rigali said in Lincoln Saturday.
"(They are) putting their faith in human ingenuity and technology,"
rather than following God and moral principles, he told about 350
people attending the annual Nebraska pro-life convention.
Rigali, archbishop of Philadelphia and chairman of the U.S. Council of
Catholic Bishops Committee for Pro-Life Activities, was keynote
speaker at the convention, which focused on the theme, "Rebuilding the
Culture of Life."
In his address and an interview with news media, the cardinal spoke
extensively about misleading claims of proponents of embryonic stem
cell research. Those who want to eliminate restrictions on the
research talk about its potential to save lives, he said.
"The truth is that embryonic stem cell research to date has not
produced one cure. This is not faith, this is science."
Meanwhile, he said, supporters of embryonic research downplay the
continual advancements in the use of adult stem cells and stem cells
from umbilical cords and placentas rather than embryos.
Opposition to embryonic research is not a religious position, but a
moral stance based on scientific facts, Rigali said.
"Science tells us that the child in the womb is already formed," he
said.
Even an embryo has the full complement of DNA that make a human being,
he noted.
He also talked about the incorrect concept of freedom espoused by
those who support abortion choice.
"Freedom of choice is invoked against the freedom of someone to be
born," he said in the interview. "The most basic freedom is the
freedom to exist, to live."
That freedom, Rigali said, is denied when an unborn child in aborted.
"The cause of life cannot be served by destroying life," he said in
his speech.
Abortion is still a huge problem - more than 1.2 million abortions
were performed last year in the United States alone - but statistics
also show that both the number and rate of abortions is declining, he
said. Public support for legalized abortion is at an all-time low,
with 44 percent of Americans saying they would support a ban on all
abortions except to save the life of the mother, he said.
He also talked about what happened in June when the Philadelphia City
Council voted 9-8 for a resolution naming Philadelphia as a "pro-
choice city." Rigali said the resolution was promoted by Planned
Parenthood but did not reflect the feelings of most citizens.
He immediately issued a statement opposing the resolution, and
recorded his message on video for play on YouTube and other Internet
sites. A groundswell of protest ensued, and the council voted 13-4 the
following week to rescind the resolution.
"The City Council had mistaken evil for good, a modern-day form of
idolatry," Rigali said.
Greg Schleppenbach, Nebraska director of the Bishops' Pastoral Plan
for Pro-Life Activities, said Rigali's appearance marked the first
time since 1990 that a cardinal addressed the convention. Cardinal
John O'Connor of New York spoke at the convention in 1990, he said.
The purpose of the convention is to "not only to focus on what we call
the culture of death, but also on the roots of it - the sociological
roots in our culture," he said.
A major focus of Nebraska's pro-life efforts is on giving young people
a positive pro-life message "as part of our overall program to try to
change the culture," he said.
A series of pro-life advertisements produced by Virtue Media are
scheduled to begin running on Nebraska television stations beginning
in late December or January, Schleppenbach said. To see the ads in
advance, visit www.virtuemedia.com.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: "Pro-Choice" Supporters Are Worshipping False Idols |
26 Oct 2007 08:30:36 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@HotPOP.com> wrote in message
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1914276/posts
Cardinal: Pro-choice supporters worshipping false idols
Lincoln Journal Star ^ | 10/20/07 | Bob Reeves
Posted on 10/21/2007 11:14:11 AM PDT by wagglebee
People who support abortion, euthanasia and embryonic stem cell
research are worshipping "modern-day false idols," Cardinal Justin
Rigali said in Lincoln Saturday.
"(They are) putting their faith in human ingenuity and technology,"
rather than following God and moral principles, he told about 350
people attending the annual Nebraska pro-life convention.
Human ingemuity and technology are real. god is imaginary. And moral
principles are not god-based.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: "Pro-Choice" Supporters Are Worshipping False Idols |
29 Oct 2007 07:08:07 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:30:36 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@HotPOP.com> wrote in message
news:1193437700.961235.111580@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1914276/posts
Cardinal: Pro-choice supporters worshipping false idols
Lincoln Journal Star ^ | 10/20/07 | Bob Reeves
Posted on 10/21/2007 11:14:11 AM PDT by wagglebee
People who support abortion, euthanasia and embryonic stem cell
research are worshipping "modern-day false idols," Cardinal Justin
Rigali said in Lincoln Saturday.
Are there any honest cardinals?
"(They are) putting their faith in human ingenuity and technology,"
rather than following God and moral principles, he told about 350
people attending the annual Nebraska pro-life convention.
Like most of them he arrogantly imagines he gets to determine
everybody else's conscience for them - based on presumptions that are
at most only granted inside his religion.
And because he doesn't understand this he lies about them.
Let's face it - his so-called "moral principles" allow buggering of
choirboys and covering it up, making the AIDS epidemic turn endemic in
third world countries, etc.
Human ingemuity and technology are real. god is imaginary. And moral
principles are not god-based.
What's worse, is that the higher up in any church they are they
arrogantly imagine their doctrinal beliefs apply to everybody.
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| User: "Virgil" |
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26 Oct 2007 05:34:39 PM |
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In article <1193437700.961235.111580@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@HotPOP.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1914276/posts
Cardinal: Pro-choice supporters worshipping false idols
Actually, a lot of pro-choicers don't worship at all.
And that Cardinal hasn't, and can't, prove that what he worships is not
an idol.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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26 Oct 2007 08:33:42 PM |
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"Virgil" <virgil@comcast.net> wrote in message
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In article <1193437700.961235.111580@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@HotPOP.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1914276/posts
Cardinal: Pro-choice supporters worshipping false idols
Actually, a lot of pro-choicers don't worship at all.
That's a fallacy often committed by religious nuts: they think if you don't
worship their god, you must by default worship something else.
I don't worship anything. (Except for certain female body parts when having
sex...)
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Oct 2007 04:17:45 PM |
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:28:20 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<sound_of_trumpet@HotPOP.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1914276/posts
Cardinal: Pro-choice supporters worshipping false idols
Lincoln Journal Star ^ | 10/20/07 | Bob Reeves
Posted on 10/21/2007 11:14:11 AM PDT by wagglebee
People who support abortion, euthanasia and embryonic stem cell
research are worshipping "modern-day false idols," Cardinal Justin
Rigali said in Lincoln Saturday.
"(They are) putting their faith in human ingenuity and technology,"
rather than following God and moral principles, he told about 350
people attending the annual Nebraska pro-life convention.
What disease (other than intelligence, which the RCC considers a
disease) has religion ever cured?
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my
contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him, the
spinal cord would fully suffice."
- Albert Einstein
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: "Pro-Choice" Supporters Are Worshipping False Idols |
27 Oct 2007 07:17:38 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:17:45 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:28:20 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<sound_of_trumpet@HotPOP.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1914276/posts
Cardinal: Pro-choice supporters worshipping false idols
Lincoln Journal Star ^ | 10/20/07 | Bob Reeves
Posted on 10/21/2007 11:14:11 AM PDT by wagglebee
People who support abortion, euthanasia and embryonic stem cell
research are worshipping "modern-day false idols," Cardinal Justin
Rigali said in Lincoln Saturday.
"(They are) putting their faith in human ingenuity and technology,"
rather than following God and moral principles, he told about 350
people attending the annual Nebraska pro-life convention.
What disease (other than intelligence, which the RCC considers a
disease) has religion ever cured?
"Sudor Anglicus", or English sweating sickness?
Surfaced in England in the summer of 1485 and struck four times over
the next century before disappearing.
There were constant prayer vigils established.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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28 Oct 2007 03:44:59 PM |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:47:38 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:17:45 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:28:20 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<sound_of_trumpet@HotPOP.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1914276/posts
Cardinal: Pro-choice supporters worshipping false idols
Lincoln Journal Star ^ | 10/20/07 | Bob Reeves
Posted on 10/21/2007 11:14:11 AM PDT by wagglebee
People who support abortion, euthanasia and embryonic stem cell
research are worshipping "modern-day false idols," Cardinal Justin
Rigali said in Lincoln Saturday.
"(They are) putting their faith in human ingenuity and technology,"
rather than following God and moral principles, he told about 350
people attending the annual Nebraska pro-life convention.
What disease (other than intelligence, which the RCC considers a
disease) has religion ever cured?
"Sudor Anglicus", or English sweating sickness?
Surfaced in England in the summer of 1485 and struck four times over
the next century before disappearing.
There were constant prayer vigils established.
Actually there were 5 outbreaks, 1485, 1507, 1517, 1528 and 1551.
Evidently nothing works like prayer - once again.
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Al at Webdingers dot com
"God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the
miserable. They find not only sanctuary in the arms of an imaginary
spirit, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated
egos; He will set them above their betters."
- H.L. Mencken
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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27 Oct 2007 08:34:11 AM |
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:28:20 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
Cardinal: Pro-choice supporters worshipping false idols
"They should wear faaaaabulous dresses like me instead!"
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“Whenever you hear a man speak of his love for his
country, it is a sign that he expects to be paid for it.”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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27 Oct 2007 12:37:57 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@HotPOP.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1914276/posts
Cardinal: Pro-choice supporters worshipping false idols
As opposed to the child-molester, sheep fleecing, pro-death priests?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gail Futoran" |
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29 Oct 2007 06:56:33 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@HotPOP.com> wrote in message
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1914276/posts
Cardinal: Pro-choice supporters worshipping false idols
Lincoln Journal Star ^ | 10/20/07 | Bob Reeves
Posted on 10/21/2007 11:14:11 AM PDT by wagglebee
People who support abortion, euthanasia and embryonic stem cell
research are worshipping "modern-day false idols," Cardinal Justin
Rigali said in Lincoln Saturday.
"(They are) putting their faith in human ingenuity and technology,"
rather than following God and moral principles, he told about 350
people attending the annual Nebraska pro-life convention.
[snip]
Before plonking SoT yet again, I'll just comment
that the next time Justin Rigali (and those with
similar beliefs) has a medical problem, he needs
to seek help directly from his all-so-powerful (sic)
god and NOT from the medical establishment,
which is based on ... science and technology.
Gail
aa#2247
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