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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 11 Feb 2006 08:15:02 PM
Object: Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally
The sad reality is that those who approve of killing the pre-born, easily
justify to themselves acts of violence directed at those who hold life to be
sacred. Peaceful rallies outside abortion mills are routinely subjected to
nazi-like tactics, for doing no more than attempting to show these
prospective mothers pictures and other information that may sway some women
to spare their baby's life. Students brave brutal retribution from
pro-abortionists while police turn a blind eye. If equal protection cannot
be applied to the pre-born, at least let it apply to those who speak in
their behalf.
http://www.lifenews.com/state1398.html
Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally
Williamsburg, VA (LifeNews.com) -- A pro-life student was punched and
knocked down by a pro-abortion woman during a pro-life rally at the College
of William and Mary. Authorities are withholding the girl's name, but she
told campus police she was distributing pro-life literature during the event
when the woman assaulted her.
William and Mary spokesman Bill Walker told the Associated Press the
incident happened Tuesday night and that the student told officials the
woman punched her and pushed her to the ground rather than accept the
literature.
..Abortion advocates have assaulted pro-life students in other settings as
well.
Pro-abortion students at Michigan State University assaulted a male student
who was talking with members of Students for Life in October 2004.
The pro-life group had set up a table with materials and information and a
male student was then talking with members of Students for Life, and had
taken some of the literature and expressed interest from the group.
Two pro-abortion students came up from behind and began harassing the
student, telling him he had no right to an opinion on a woman's issue.
When the male turned around to ask who they were, they snatched the pro-life
literature from his hands, and threw it at him. When he bent over to pick
them up, they kicked his hands.
Then, one of the pro-abortion students tackled the student, knocking him
onto the recruitment table and crushing it.
Pro-life students were also assaulted by NARAL activists during the 2004
elections at a pro-abortion rally to support Democratic presidential
candidate John Kerry. One of the students was dragged across a gravel area
and needed medical attention on the scene for cuts and scrapes on her feet.
--
"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally 13 Feb 2006 11:56:05 PM
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <a7KdnbWrlteuB3PenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

The sad reality is that those who approve of killing the pre-born,
easily
justify to themselves acts of violence directed at those who hold
life
to be
sacred. Peaceful rallies outside abortion mills are routinely
subjected to
nazi-like tactics, for doing no more than attempting to show these
prospective mothers pictures and other information that may sway
some
women
to spare their baby's life. Students brave brutal retribution from
pro-abortionists while police turn a blind eye. If equal protection
cannot
be applied to the pre-born, at least let it apply to those who speak
in
their behalf.


Letters threatening anthrax poisoning were first used to terrorize and
disrupt reproductive health care clinics in October 1998, just days
after the murder of abortion provider Dr. Barnett Slepian. At that
time, about a dozen clinics across the country received letters that
claimed to contain anthrax toxin. They threatened that clinic
personnel
exposed to the letters would die.

Since then, additional anthrax threat letters have been received by
clinics in February and June 1999, January 2000, October and November
2001, and January 2002. As of January 2002, approximately 654 letters
have been received by clinics across the United States. Letters were
postmarked from various places including Kentucky, Ohio, Georgia, New
York, and Washington, DC. Early letters contained no return addresses,
but after law enforcement agents advised clinic personnel around the
country to avoid opening mail from anonymous senders, letters started
arriving with phony return addresses that included fictitious medical
supply companies, the department of taxation, other clinics, law
enforcement agencies, and pro-choice organizations.

While investigation has proven that none of the letters have actually
contained anthrax toxin, virtually every case has resulted in
frightening clinic staff and patients, disrupting services, and
wasting
valuable law enforcement resources. The 554 letters sent via U.S. Mail
and FedEx in 2001 have been attributed to anti-abortion extremist
Clayton Waagner. Waagner was convicted in December 2003 of various
charges including threatening the use of a weapon of mass destruction
for sending the letters. He is in prison awaiting sentencing.

http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/anthrax.html

"Rudolph gets life for Birmingham clinic attack."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/

Abortion clinics, federal agents on alert:

<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7507549/>

Best of all:

"[t]here has been "over $13 million in damage caused by violent
anti-abortion groups since 1982 in over 150 arson attacks, bombings,
and shootings."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm


All of the above actions are wrong and shouldn't be tollerated. But
that doesn't excuse you from ignoring the issue of the article.


The issue being what?


A pro-life student being beaten.


And what of the suffering and deaths that "pro-life" student wants to
inflict upon pregnant women?


What about the suffering and deaths you like to put on men who don't have a

***** Heishman slings ***** and lies and runs away.
Business as usual.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally 14 Feb 2006 12:05:57 AM
Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f0e549$0$58089$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <a7KdnbWrlteuB3PenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

The sad reality is that those who approve of killing the pre-born,
easily
justify to themselves acts of violence directed at those who hold
life
to be
sacred. Peaceful rallies outside abortion mills are routinely
subjected to
nazi-like tactics, for doing no more than attempting to show these
prospective mothers pictures and other information that may sway
some
women
to spare their baby's life. Students brave brutal retribution from
pro-abortionists while police turn a blind eye. If equal protection
cannot
be applied to the pre-born, at least let it apply to those who speak
in
their behalf.


Letters threatening anthrax poisoning were first used to terrorize and
disrupt reproductive health care clinics in October 1998, just days
after the murder of abortion provider Dr. Barnett Slepian. At that
time, about a dozen clinics across the country received letters that
claimed to contain anthrax toxin. They threatened that clinic
personnel
exposed to the letters would die.

Since then, additional anthrax threat letters have been received by
clinics in February and June 1999, January 2000, October and November
2001, and January 2002. As of January 2002, approximately 654 letters
have been received by clinics across the United States. Letters were
postmarked from various places including Kentucky, Ohio, Georgia, New
York, and Washington, DC. Early letters contained no return addresses,
but after law enforcement agents advised clinic personnel around the
country to avoid opening mail from anonymous senders, letters started
arriving with phony return addresses that included fictitious medical
supply companies, the department of taxation, other clinics, law
enforcement agencies, and pro-choice organizations.

While investigation has proven that none of the letters have actually
contained anthrax toxin, virtually every case has resulted in
frightening clinic staff and patients, disrupting services, and
wasting
valuable law enforcement resources. The 554 letters sent via U.S. Mail
and FedEx in 2001 have been attributed to anti-abortion extremist
Clayton Waagner. Waagner was convicted in December 2003 of various
charges including threatening the use of a weapon of mass destruction
for sending the letters. He is in prison awaiting sentencing.

http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/anthrax.html

"Rudolph gets life for Birmingham clinic attack."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/

Abortion clinics, federal agents on alert:

<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7507549/>

Best of all:

"[t]here has been "over $13 million in damage caused by violent
anti-abortion groups since 1982 in over 150 arson attacks, bombings,
and shootings."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm


All of the above actions are wrong and shouldn't be tollerated. But
that doesn't excuse you from ignoring the issue of the article.


The issue being what?


A pro-life student being beaten.


And what of the suffering and deaths that "pro-life" student wants to
inflict upon pregnant women?


What about the suffering and deaths you like to put on men who don't have a


***** Heishman slings ***** and lies and runs away.

Business as usual.

What about the suffering that the pro-life student is enduring from
being beaten? Do you support that action taken against the pro-life
student?
Do you support men having no choice and having to pay for 18 years if
they don't want to be a father? While a woman can just pay someone to
kill the unborn and escape any financial responsibility what so ever?
You, like Humphrey and the other leftist cowards in here, are ignoring
the fact that a human being was beaten. You seem to approve of this
action because you appear to think that it justifies the actions you
feel others take against women.
When the truth be known, you don't support women at all. In fact, you
are a bigot. A mindless, selfish, cowardly, bigot.
A person was beaten, and I have YET to see one of you say that it was
wrong. The only conclusion can be is that you support the violent
action taken against this person. Until you can actually say you think
that the violence was wrong, that is the only conclusion one can come
up with since you have not proven my conclusion wrong.
You are a violent person and you support violence.
Go and and do your business as usual and snip out most of what I say
and resort to childish insults, since you can't actually engage on an
issue and you have no other recourse.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally 14 Feb 2006 09:44:33 PM
In article <1139897157.848227.179890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f10526$0$58063$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f0e549$0$58089$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <a7KdnbWrlteuB3PenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

The sad reality is that those who approve of killing the pre-born,
easily
justify to themselves acts of violence directed at those who hold
life
to be
sacred. Peaceful rallies outside abortion mills are routinely
subjected to
nazi-like tactics, for doing no more than attempting to show these
prospective mothers pictures and other information that may sway
some
women
to spare their baby's life. Students brave brutal retribution from
pro-abortionists while police turn a blind eye. If equal protection
cannot
be applied to the pre-born, at least let it apply to those who
speak
in
their behalf.


Letters threatening anthrax poisoning were first used to terrorize
and
disrupt reproductive health care clinics in October 1998, just days
after the murder of abortion provider Dr. Barnett Slepian. At that
time, about a dozen clinics across the country received letters that
claimed to contain anthrax toxin. They threatened that clinic
personnel
exposed to the letters would die.

Since then, additional anthrax threat letters have been received by
clinics in February and June 1999, January 2000, October and November
2001, and January 2002. As of January 2002, approximately 654 letters
have been received by clinics across the United States. Letters were
postmarked from various places including Kentucky, Ohio, Georgia, New
York, and Washington, DC. Early letters contained no return
addresses,
but after law enforcement agents advised clinic personnel around the
country to avoid opening mail from anonymous senders, letters started
arriving with phony return addresses that included fictitious medical
supply companies, the department of taxation, other clinics, law
enforcement agencies, and pro-choice organizations.

While investigation has proven that none of the letters have actually
contained anthrax toxin, virtually every case has resulted in
frightening clinic staff and patients, disrupting services, and
wasting
valuable law enforcement resources. The 554 letters sent via U.S.
Mail
and FedEx in 2001 have been attributed to anti-abortion extremist
Clayton Waagner. Waagner was convicted in December 2003 of various
charges including threatening the use of a weapon of mass destruction
for sending the letters. He is in prison awaiting sentencing.

http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/anthrax.html

"Rudolph gets life for Birmingham clinic attack."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/

Abortion clinics, federal agents on alert:

<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7507549/>

Best of all:

"[t]here has been "over $13 million in damage caused by violent
anti-abortion groups since 1982 in over 150 arson attacks, bombings,
and shootings."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm


All of the above actions are wrong and shouldn't be tollerated. But
that doesn't excuse you from ignoring the issue of the article.


The issue being what?


A pro-life student being beaten.


And what of the suffering and deaths that "pro-life" student wants to
inflict upon pregnant women?


What about the suffering and deaths you like to put on men who don't have a


***** Heishman slings ***** and lies and runs away.

Business as usual.




What about the suffering that the pro-life student is enduring from
being beaten? Do you support that action taken against the pro-life
student?

I heard it was an Air Marshal who did it. Does that make a difference?


Do you support men having no choice and having to pay for 18 years if
they don't want to be a father?

That isn't what normally happens. Maybe you are just bitter because it
happened to you.

While a woman can just pay someone to
kill the unborn and escape any financial responsibility what so ever?

³My wife had a abortion long before we met.² - Osprey, Mon, Mar 24 2003
³My wife had an abortion long before her and I met. She was young² -
Osprey, Thurs, Jan 20 2005
³The woman wants the fetus dead right? So she pays the hit man, the
abortion doctor.³ - Osprey, Thurs, May 1 2003
A mother can go and pay someone to abort, kind of like hiring a hit man
to do the dirty work. - Osprey, Fri, Apr 9 2004
So tell me, how can a person be charged with murdering the fetus and
the "hit" man isn't charged? - Osprey, Tues, Sep 27 2005
Now, give me a very logical reason why it is ok for a woman to pay a
hit man (abortionist) to kill the fetus, but if someone else does it
they go to jail. - Sun, Sep 14 2003


You, like Humphrey and the other leftist cowards in here, are ignoring
the fact that a human being was beaten.

Something you do daily.

You seem to approve of this
action because you appear to think that it justifies the actions you
feel others take against women.

Actually, I have no doubt whatsoever that either Patrick or Ray think
this was justified. You are just too deep in the ***** to back out now.


When the truth be known, you don't support women at all. In fact, you
are a bigot. A mindless, selfish, cowardly, bigot.

³And please, if you are going to act like a child and call me
names...come up with something better. - Osprey, Mon, Aug 23 2004
³The fact that you are not confident in your own argument and need to
use smokescreens because your not comfortable, and having to call
names again because your argument is weak is not my problem. You are
the one who is resorting to that, not I.² - Osprey, Tues, Apr 22 2003
³Do you see me calling you names? No you don't. I don't need to
curse or call you names.² - Osprey, Tues, Mar 4 2003
³Go figure. It is ok for libs to call names because libs think they
are always right.³ - Osprey, Mon, Mar 15 2004
³You are a idiot ... you are not interested in anything other than
trying to nit pick or call names.³ - Osprey, Fri, Jan 30 2004
³It is easy to call names, but do you actually have something to show
for it?³ - Osprey, Fri, Feb 28 2003
³What good does it do to call names?³ - Osprey, May 22 2003


A person was beaten, and I have YET to see one of you say that it was
wrong.

It was wrong.

The only conclusion can be is that you support the violent
action taken against this person.

You don't say the beatings that take place in Iraq are wrong. "The only
conclusion can be is that you support the violent action taken against
[those] person[s]."

Until you can actually say you think
that the violence was wrong, that is the only conclusion one can come
up with since you have not proven my conclusion wrong.

You get proven wrong by the minute.


You are a violent person and you support violence.

And you make up the most unbelievable ***** one could imagine.


Go and and do your business as usual and snip out most of what I say
and resort to childish insults,

From the guy who constant "snips" the posts of others and just accused
Ray of being an "anti-choice, violent, mindless, selfish, cowardly,
bigot."

since you can't actually engage on an
issue and you have no other recourse.

Maybe he just sees you for who you are and doesn't take you seriously?
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally 15 Feb 2006 04:52:10 AM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1139897157.848227.179890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f10526$0$58063$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f0e549$0$58089$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <a7KdnbWrlteuB3PenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, J =

Young

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

The sad reality is that those who approve of killing the pre=

-born,

easily
justify to themselves acts of violence directed at those who=

hold

life
to be
sacred. Peaceful rallies outside abortion mills are routinely
subjected to
nazi-like tactics, for doing no more than attempting to show=

these

prospective mothers pictures and other information that may =

sway

some
women
to spare their baby's life. Students brave brutal retributio=

n from

pro-abortionists while police turn a blind eye. If equal pro=

tection

cannot
be applied to the pre-born, at least let it apply to those w=

ho

speak
in
their behalf.


Letters threatening anthrax poisoning were first used to terro=

rize

and
disrupt reproductive health care clinics in October 1998, just=

days

after the murder of abortion provider Dr. Barnett Slepian. At =

that

time, about a dozen clinics across the country received letter=

s that

claimed to contain anthrax toxin. They threatened that clinic
personnel
exposed to the letters would die.

Since then, additional anthrax threat letters have been receiv=

ed by

clinics in February and June 1999, January 2000, October and N=

ovember

2001, and January 2002. As of January 2002, approximately 654 =

letters

have been received by clinics across the United States. Letter=

s were

postmarked from various places including Kentucky, Ohio, Georg=

ia, New

York, and Washington, DC. Early letters contained no return
addresses,
but after law enforcement agents advised clinic personnel arou=

nd the

country to avoid opening mail from anonymous senders, letters =

started

arriving with phony return addresses that included fictitious =

medical

supply companies, the department of taxation, other clinics, l=

aw

enforcement agencies, and pro-choice organizations.

While investigation has proven that none of the letters have a=

ctually

contained anthrax toxin, virtually every case has resulted in
frightening clinic staff and patients, disrupting services, and
wasting
valuable law enforcement resources. The 554 letters sent via U=

..S.

Mail
and FedEx in 2001 have been attributed to anti-abortion extrem=

ist

Clayton Waagner. Waagner was convicted in December 2003 of var=

ious

charges including threatening the use of a weapon of mass dest=

ruction

for sending the letters. He is in prison awaiting sentencing.

http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/anthrax.html

"Rudolph gets life for Birmingham clinic attack."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/

Abortion clinics, federal agents on alert:

<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7507549/>

Best of all:

"[t]here has been "over $13 million in damage caused by violent
anti-abortion groups since 1982 in over 150 arson attacks, bom=

bings,

and shootings."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm


All of the above actions are wrong and shouldn't be tollerated. =

But

that doesn't excuse you from ignoring the issue of the article.


The issue being what?


A pro-life student being beaten.


And what of the suffering and deaths that "pro-life" student wants=

to

inflict upon pregnant women?


What about the suffering and deaths you like to put on men who don't=

have a


***** Heishman slings ***** and lies and runs away.

Business as usual.




What about the suffering that the pro-life student is enduring from
being beaten? Do you support that action taken against the pro-life
student?


I heard it was an Air Marshal who did it. Does that make a difference?

Actually I heard it was a lawyer. I am sure you approve.



Do you support men having no choice and having to pay for 18 years if
they don't want to be a father?


That isn't what normally happens. Maybe you are just bitter because it
happened to you.

You are more than welcome to try and find a court order. Let me clue
you in, you will not find one because I took the road that a man would
take and I stood by my wife and children, and didn't runout like a
coward like you would have done. You would have preferred she killed
the unborn child.


While a woman can just pay someone to
kill the unborn and escape any financial responsibility what so ever?


=B3My wife had a abortion long before we met.=B2 - Osprey, Mon, Mar 24 20=

03
Yea and?


=B3My wife had an abortion long before her and I met. She was young=B2 -
Osprey, Thurs, Jan 20 2005

Yea and?


=B3The woman wants the fetus dead right? So she pays the hit man, the
abortion doctor.=B3 - Osprey, Thurs, May 1 2003

Yea and?


A mother can go and pay someone to abort, kind of like hiring a hit man
to do the dirty work. - Osprey, Fri, Apr 9 2004

Yea and?


So tell me, how can a person be charged with murdering the fetus and
the "hit" man isn't charged? - Osprey, Tues, Sep 27 2005

Still no point?


Now, give me a very logical reason why it is ok for a woman to pay a
hit man (abortionist) to kill the fetus, but if someone else does it
they go to jail. - Sun, Sep 14 2003

Yea and?



You, like Humphrey and the other leftist cowards in here, are ignoring
the fact that a human being was beaten.


Something you do daily.

Not at all, like most rational people I read the news and I have an
opinion on the issues.
You jump to conclusions and make up your own news.


You seem to approve of this
action because you appear to think that it justifies the actions you
feel others take against women.


Actually, I have no doubt whatsoever that either Patrick or Ray think
this was justified. You are just too deep in the ***** to back out now.

I have no doubt that you, Patrick, and Ray do think it was justified.



When the truth be known, you don't support women at all. In fact, you
are a bigot. A mindless, selfish, cowardly, bigot.


=B3And please, if you are going to act like a child and call me
names...come up with something better. - Osprey, Mon, Aug 23 2004

=B3The fact that you are not confident in your own argument and need to
use smokescreens because your not comfortable, and having to call
names again because your argument is weak is not my problem. You are
the one who is resorting to that, not I.=B2 - Osprey, Tues, Apr 22 2003

=B3Do you see me calling you names? No you don't. I don't need to
curse or call you names.=B2 - Osprey, Tues, Mar 4 2003

=B3Go figure. It is ok for libs to call names because libs think they
are always right.=B3 - Osprey, Mon, Mar 15 2004

=B3You are a idiot ... you are not interested in anything other than
trying to nit pick or call names.=B3 - Osprey, Fri, Jan 30 2004

=B3It is easy to call names, but do you actually have something to show
for it?=B3 - Osprey, Fri, Feb 28 2003

=B3What good does it do to call names?=B3 - Osprey, May 22 2003

What were you saying about people who save quotes and archives? Oh
yea, you claimed people like that were obsessed.



A person was beaten, and I have YET to see one of you say that it was
wrong.


It was wrong.

It's about time you admitted it. It only took you about a dozen times
to try.


The only conclusion can be is that you support the violent
action taken against this person.


You don't say the beatings that take place in Iraq are wrong. "The only
conclusion can be is that you support the violent action taken against
[those] person[s]."

Actually, if you read some of my past postings you would see where I
have said some of the things done in Iraq are wrong.
But you don't read.


Until you can actually say you think
that the violence was wrong, that is the only conclusion one can come
up with since you have not proven my conclusion wrong.


You get proven wrong by the minute.

Not by you or any of the other leftist cowards.



You are a violent person and you support violence.


And you make up the most unbelievable ***** one could imagine.


Go and and do your business as usual and snip out most of what I say
and resort to childish insults,


From the guy who constant "snips" the posts of others and just accused
Ray of being an "anti-choice, violent, mindless, selfish, cowardly,
bigot."

since you can't actually engage on an
issue and you have no other recourse.


Maybe he just sees you for who you are and doesn't take you seriously?

.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally 15 Feb 2006 09:14:28 AM
In article <1140000730.832047.141640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1139897157.848227.179890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f10526$0$58063$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f0e549$0$58089$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <a7KdnbWrlteuB3PenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, J

Young

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

The sad reality is that those who approve of killing the

pre-born,

easily
justify to themselves acts of violence directed at those who

hold

life
to be
sacred. Peaceful rallies outside abortion mills are routinely
subjected to
nazi-like tactics, for doing no more than attempting to show

these

prospective mothers pictures and other information that may

sway

some
women
to spare their baby's life. Students brave brutal retribution

from

pro-abortionists while police turn a blind eye. If equal

protection

cannot
be applied to the pre-born, at least let it apply to those who
speak
in
their behalf.


Letters threatening anthrax poisoning were first used to

terrorize

and
disrupt reproductive health care clinics in October 1998, just

days

after the murder of abortion provider Dr. Barnett Slepian. At

that

time, about a dozen clinics across the country received letters

that

claimed to contain anthrax toxin. They threatened that clinic
personnel
exposed to the letters would die.

Since then, additional anthrax threat letters have been received

by

clinics in February and June 1999, January 2000, October and

November

2001, and January 2002. As of January 2002, approximately 654

letters

have been received by clinics across the United States. Letters

were

postmarked from various places including Kentucky, Ohio,

Georgia, New

York, and Washington, DC. Early letters contained no return
addresses,
but after law enforcement agents advised clinic personnel around

the

country to avoid opening mail from anonymous senders, letters

started

arriving with phony return addresses that included fictitious

medical

supply companies, the department of taxation, other clinics, law
enforcement agencies, and pro-choice organizations.

While investigation has proven that none of the letters have

actually

contained anthrax toxin, virtually every case has resulted in
frightening clinic staff and patients, disrupting services, and
wasting
valuable law enforcement resources. The 554 letters sent via U.S.
Mail
and FedEx in 2001 have been attributed to anti-abortion extremist
Clayton Waagner. Waagner was convicted in December 2003 of

various

charges including threatening the use of a weapon of mass

destruction

for sending the letters. He is in prison awaiting sentencing.

http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/anthrax.html

"Rudolph gets life for Birmingham clinic attack."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/

Abortion clinics, federal agents on alert:

<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7507549/>

Best of all:

"[t]here has been "over $13 million in damage caused by violent
anti-abortion groups since 1982 in over 150 arson attacks,

bombings,

and shootings."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm


All of the above actions are wrong and shouldn't be tollerated. But
that doesn't excuse you from ignoring the issue of the article.


The issue being what?


A pro-life student being beaten.


And what of the suffering and deaths that "pro-life" student wants to
inflict upon pregnant women?


What about the suffering and deaths you like to put on men who don't
have a


***** Heishman slings ***** and lies and runs away.

Business as usual.




What about the suffering that the pro-life student is enduring from
being beaten? Do you support that action taken against the pro-life
student?


I heard it was an Air Marshal who did it. Does that make a difference?


Actually I heard it was a lawyer. I am sure you approve.



Do you support men having no choice and having to pay for 18 years if
they don't want to be a father?


That isn't what normally happens. Maybe you are just bitter because it
happened to you.


You are more than welcome to try and find a court order.

If I cared.

Let me clue
you in, you will not find one because I took the road that a man would
take and I stood by my wife and children, and didn't runout like a
coward like you would have done. You would have preferred she killed
the unborn child.


While a woman can just pay someone to
kill the unborn and escape any financial responsibility what so ever?


³My wife had a abortion long before we met.² - Osprey, Mon, Mar 24 2003


Yea and?


³My wife had an abortion long before her and I met. She was young² -
Osprey, Thurs, Jan 20 2005


Yea and?


³The woman wants the fetus dead right? So she pays the hit man, the
abortion doctor.³ - Osprey, Thurs, May 1 2003


Yea and?


A mother can go and pay someone to abort, kind of like hiring a hit man
to do the dirty work. - Osprey, Fri, Apr 9 2004


Yea and?



So tell me, how can a person be charged with murdering the fetus and
the "hit" man isn't charged? - Osprey, Tues, Sep 27 2005


Still no point?


Now, give me a very logical reason why it is ok for a woman to pay a
hit man (abortionist) to kill the fetus, but if someone else does it
they go to jail. - Sun, Sep 14 2003


Yea and?

Yea and?




You, like Humphrey and the other leftist cowards in here, are ignoring
the fact that a human being was beaten.


Something you do daily.


Not at all, like most rational people I read the news and I have an
opinion on the issues.
You jump to conclusions and make up your own news.

You support the "war." You support Bush.




You seem to approve of this
action because you appear to think that it justifies the actions you
feel others take against women.


Actually, I have no doubt whatsoever that either Patrick or Ray think
this was justified. You are just too deep in the ***** to back out now.


I have no doubt that you, Patrick, and Ray do think it was justified.

But then, you live in denial. What is the point of asking if you are
just going to deny the answer? Is this how you get through life?





When the truth be known, you don't support women at all. In fact, you
are a bigot. A mindless, selfish, cowardly, bigot.


³And please, if you are going to act like a child and call me
names...come up with something better. - Osprey, Mon, Aug 23 2004

³The fact that you are not confident in your own argument and need to
use smokescreens because your not comfortable, and having to call
names again because your argument is weak is not my problem. You are
the one who is resorting to that, not I.² - Osprey, Tues, Apr 22 2003

³Do you see me calling you names? No you don't. I don't need to
curse or call you names.² - Osprey, Tues, Mar 4 2003

³Go figure. It is ok for libs to call names because libs think they
are always right.³ - Osprey, Mon, Mar 15 2004

³You are a idiot ... you are not interested in anything other than
trying to nit pick or call names.³ - Osprey, Fri, Jan 30 2004

³It is easy to call names, but do you actually have something to show
for it?³ - Osprey, Fri, Feb 28 2003

³What good does it do to call names?³ - Osprey, May 22 2003



What were you saying about people who save quotes and archives? Oh
yea, you claimed people like that were obsessed.

Hypocrite.




A person was beaten, and I have YET to see one of you say that it was
wrong.


It was wrong.


It's about time you admitted it. It only took you about a dozen times
to try.

Nothing makes you happy. Republican.




The only conclusion can be is that you support the violent
action taken against this person.


You don't say the beatings that take place in Iraq are wrong. "The only
conclusion can be is that you support the violent action taken against
[those] person[s]."


Actually, if you read some of my past postings you would see where I
have said some of the things done in Iraq are wrong.
But you don't read.

"Some?" Why only "some?"
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally 15 Feb 2006 09:26:39 AM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1140000730.832047.141640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1139897157.848227.179890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f10526$0$58063$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f0e549$0$58089$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <a7KdnbWrlteuB3PenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>=

, J

Young

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

The sad reality is that those who approve of killing the

pre-born,

easily
justify to themselves acts of violence directed at those=

who

hold

life
to be
sacred. Peaceful rallies outside abortion mills are rout=

inely

subjected to
nazi-like tactics, for doing no more than attempting to =

show

these

prospective mothers pictures and other information that =

may

sway

some
women
to spare their baby's life. Students brave brutal retrib=

ution

from

pro-abortionists while police turn a blind eye. If equal

protection

cannot
be applied to the pre-born, at least let it apply to tho=

se who

speak
in
their behalf.


Letters threatening anthrax poisoning were first used to

terrorize

and
disrupt reproductive health care clinics in October 1998, =

just

days

after the murder of abortion provider Dr. Barnett Slepian.=

At

that

time, about a dozen clinics across the country received le=

tters

that

claimed to contain anthrax toxin. They threatened that cli=

nic

personnel
exposed to the letters would die.

Since then, additional anthrax threat letters have been re=

ceived

by

clinics in February and June 1999, January 2000, October a=

nd

November

2001, and January 2002. As of January 2002, approximately =

654

letters

have been received by clinics across the United States. Le=

tters

were

postmarked from various places including Kentucky, Ohio,

Georgia, New

York, and Washington, DC. Early letters contained no return
addresses,
but after law enforcement agents advised clinic personnel =

around

the

country to avoid opening mail from anonymous senders, lett=

ers

started

arriving with phony return addresses that included fictiti=

ous

medical

supply companies, the department of taxation, other clinic=

s, law

enforcement agencies, and pro-choice organizations.

While investigation has proven that none of the letters ha=

ve

actually

contained anthrax toxin, virtually every case has resulted=

in

frightening clinic staff and patients, disrupting services=

, and

wasting
valuable law enforcement resources. The 554 letters sent v=

ia U.S.

Mail
and FedEx in 2001 have been attributed to anti-abortion ex=

tremist

Clayton Waagner. Waagner was convicted in December 2003 of

various

charges including threatening the use of a weapon of mass

destruction

for sending the letters. He is in prison awaiting sentenci=

ng.


http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/anthrax.h=

tml


"Rudolph gets life for Birmingham clinic attack."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/

Abortion clinics, federal agents on alert:

<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7507549/>

Best of all:

"[t]here has been "over $13 million in damage caused by vi=

olent

anti-abortion groups since 1982 in over 150 arson attacks,

bombings,

and shootings."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm


All of the above actions are wrong and shouldn't be tollerat=

ed. But

that doesn't excuse you from ignoring the issue of the artic=

le.


The issue being what?


A pro-life student being beaten.


And what of the suffering and deaths that "pro-life" student w=

ants to

inflict upon pregnant women?


What about the suffering and deaths you like to put on men who d=

on't

have a


***** Heishman slings ***** and lies and runs away.

Business as usual.




What about the suffering that the pro-life student is enduring from
being beaten? Do you support that action taken against the pro-life
student?


I heard it was an Air Marshal who did it. Does that make a differenc=

e?


Actually I heard it was a lawyer. I am sure you approve.



Do you support men having no choice and having to pay for 18 years =

if

they don't want to be a father?


That isn't what normally happens. Maybe you are just bitter because =

it

happened to you.


You are more than welcome to try and find a court order.


If I cared.

Barnes admits he made it up.


Let me clue
you in, you will not find one because I took the road that a man would
take and I stood by my wife and children, and didn't runout like a
coward like you would have done. You would have preferred she killed
the unborn child.


While a woman can just pay someone to
kill the unborn and escape any financial responsibility what so eve=

r?


=B3My wife had a abortion long before we met.=B2 - Osprey, Mon, Mar 2=

4 2003


Yea and?


=B3My wife had an abortion long before her and I met. She was young=

=B2 -

Osprey, Thurs, Jan 20 2005


Yea and?


=B3The woman wants the fetus dead right? So she pays the hit man, the
abortion doctor.=B3 - Osprey, Thurs, May 1 2003


Yea and?


A mother can go and pay someone to abort, kind of like hiring a hit m=

an

to do the dirty work. - Osprey, Fri, Apr 9 2004


Yea and?



So tell me, how can a person be charged with murdering the fetus and
the "hit" man isn't charged? - Osprey, Tues, Sep 27 2005


Still no point?


Now, give me a very logical reason why it is ok for a woman to pay a
hit man (abortionist) to kill the fetus, but if someone else does it
they go to jail. - Sun, Sep 14 2003


Yea and?


Yea and?




You, like Humphrey and the other leftist cowards in here, are ignor=

ing

the fact that a human being was beaten.


Something you do daily.


Not at all, like most rational people I read the news and I have an
opinion on the issues.
You jump to conclusions and make up your own news.


You support the "war." You support Bush.

I support the war against terrorism. You don't?





You seem to approve of this
action because you appear to think that it justifies the actions you
feel others take against women.


Actually, I have no doubt whatsoever that either Patrick or Ray think
this was justified. You are just too deep in the ***** to back out no=

w=2E


I have no doubt that you, Patrick, and Ray do think it was justified.


But then, you live in denial. What is the point of asking if you are
just going to deny the answer? Is this how you get through life?

It's like asking you..what is the point in asking you to back up one of
your claims when you are just going to avoid showing any back up. Is
that how you get through life?






When the truth be known, you don't support women at all. In fact, =

you

are a bigot. A mindless, selfish, cowardly, bigot.


=B3And please, if you are going to act like a child and call me
names...come up with something better. - Osprey, Mon, Aug 23 2004

=B3The fact that you are not confident in your own argument and need=

to

use smokescreens because your not comfortable, and having to call
names again because your argument is weak is not my problem. You are
the one who is resorting to that, not I.=B2 - Osprey, Tues, Apr 22 20=

03


=B3Do you see me calling you names? No you don't. I don't need to
curse or call you names.=B2 - Osprey, Tues, Mar 4 2003

=B3Go figure. It is ok for libs to call names because libs think th=

ey

are always right.=B3 - Osprey, Mon, Mar 15 2004

=B3You are a idiot ... you are not interested in anything other than
trying to nit pick or call names.=B3 - Osprey, Fri, Jan 30 2004

=B3It is easy to call names, but do you actually have something to sh=

ow

for it?=B3 - Osprey, Fri, Feb 28 2003

=B3What good does it do to call names?=B3 - Osprey, May 22 2003



What were you saying about people who save quotes and archives? Oh
yea, you claimed people like that were obsessed.


Hypocrite.

Yes, you are. Especially when nailed with your own statements.





A person was beaten, and I have YET to see one of you say that it w=

as

wrong.


It was wrong.


It's about time you admitted it. It only took you about a dozen times
to try.


Nothing makes you happy. Republican.

I am a very happy person, you are the one full of hate.





The only conclusion can be is that you support the violent
action taken against this person.


You don't say the beatings that take place in Iraq are wrong. "The on=

ly

conclusion can be is that you support the violent action taken against
[those] person[s]."


Actually, if you read some of my past postings you would see where I
have said some of the things done in Iraq are wrong.
But you don't read.


"Some?" Why only "some?"

Because that's my opinion. I am not like you who looks at a persons
party and bases my decisions on that. That is how you think. You are a
racist as well, who judges a person based on their skin color and then
makes your opinion, just like you base a person on their political
party.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally 15 Feb 2006 09:45:01 AM
In article <1140017199.701453.256670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1140000730.832047.141640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1139897157.848227.179890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f10526$0$58063$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f0e549$0$58089$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <a7KdnbWrlteuB3PenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, J

Young

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

The sad reality is that those who approve of killing the

pre-born,

easily
justify to themselves acts of violence directed at those

who

hold

life
to be
sacred. Peaceful rallies outside abortion mills are

routinely

subjected to
nazi-like tactics, for doing no more than attempting to

show

these

prospective mothers pictures and other information that may

sway

some
women
to spare their baby's life. Students brave brutal

retribution

from

pro-abortionists while police turn a blind eye. If equal

protection

cannot
be applied to the pre-born, at least let it apply to those

who

speak
in
their behalf.


Letters threatening anthrax poisoning were first used to

terrorize

and
disrupt reproductive health care clinics in October 1998,

just

days

after the murder of abortion provider Dr. Barnett Slepian. At

that

time, about a dozen clinics across the country received

letters

that

claimed to contain anthrax toxin. They threatened that clinic
personnel
exposed to the letters would die.

Since then, additional anthrax threat letters have been

received

by

clinics in February and June 1999, January 2000, October and

November

2001, and January 2002. As of January 2002, approximately 654

letters

have been received by clinics across the United States.

Letters

were

postmarked from various places including Kentucky, Ohio,

Georgia, New

York, and Washington, DC. Early letters contained no return
addresses,
but after law enforcement agents advised clinic personnel

around

the

country to avoid opening mail from anonymous senders, letters

started

arriving with phony return addresses that included fictitious

medical

supply companies, the department of taxation, other clinics,

law

enforcement agencies, and pro-choice organizations.

While investigation has proven that none of the letters have

actually

contained anthrax toxin, virtually every case has resulted in
frightening clinic staff and patients, disrupting services,

and

wasting
valuable law enforcement resources. The 554 letters sent via

U.S.

Mail
and FedEx in 2001 have been attributed to anti-abortion

extremist

Clayton Waagner. Waagner was convicted in December 2003 of

various

charges including threatening the use of a weapon of mass

destruction

for sending the letters. He is in prison awaiting sentencing.

http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/anthrax.html

"Rudolph gets life for Birmingham clinic attack."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/

Abortion clinics, federal agents on alert:

<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7507549/>

Best of all:

"[t]here has been "over $13 million in damage caused by

violent

anti-abortion groups since 1982 in over 150 arson attacks,

bombings,

and shootings."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm


All of the above actions are wrong and shouldn't be

tollerated. But

that doesn't excuse you from ignoring the issue of the article.


The issue being what?


A pro-life student being beaten.


And what of the suffering and deaths that "pro-life" student

wants to

inflict upon pregnant women?


What about the suffering and deaths you like to put on men who
don't
have a


***** Heishman slings ***** and lies and runs away.

Business as usual.




What about the suffering that the pro-life student is enduring from
being beaten? Do you support that action taken against the pro-life
student?


I heard it was an Air Marshal who did it. Does that make a difference?


Actually I heard it was a lawyer. I am sure you approve.



Do you support men having no choice and having to pay for 18 years if
they don't want to be a father?


That isn't what normally happens. Maybe you are just bitter because it
happened to you.


You are more than welcome to try and find a court order.


If I cared.


Barnes admits he made it up.

Idiot.




Let me clue
you in, you will not find one because I took the road that a man would
take and I stood by my wife and children, and didn't runout like a
coward like you would have done. You would have preferred she killed
the unborn child.


While a woman can just pay someone to
kill the unborn and escape any financial responsibility what so ever?


³My wife had a abortion long before we met.² - Osprey, Mon, Mar 24 2003


Yea and?


³My wife had an abortion long before her and I met. She was young² -
Osprey, Thurs, Jan 20 2005


Yea and?


³The woman wants the fetus dead right? So she pays the hit man, the
abortion doctor.³ - Osprey, Thurs, May 1 2003


Yea and?


A mother can go and pay someone to abort, kind of like hiring a hit man
to do the dirty work. - Osprey, Fri, Apr 9 2004


Yea and?



So tell me, how can a person be charged with murdering the fetus and
the "hit" man isn't charged? - Osprey, Tues, Sep 27 2005


Still no point?


Now, give me a very logical reason why it is ok for a woman to pay a
hit man (abortionist) to kill the fetus, but if someone else does it
they go to jail. - Sun, Sep 14 2003


Yea and?


Yea and?




You, like Humphrey and the other leftist cowards in here, are ignoring
the fact that a human being was beaten.


Something you do daily.


Not at all, like most rational people I read the news and I have an
opinion on the issues.
You jump to conclusions and make up your own news.


You support the "war." You support Bush.


I support the war against terrorism.

LIAR
€€ OSPREY ADMITS TO TURNING HIS BACK ON U.S.A. €€
Osprey inadvertently admits, on 2/3/2006:
³I was offered a position with Border Patrol about a year and a half
ago. My wife and I both like it here in Delaware though.³
As we all know, the Bush White House states that we are at ³war² and
terrorism needs to be curtailed at the borders. Part of his ³war on
terrorism² is to increase security at the borders by hiring more border
patrol.
The United State Government comes to Osprey and asks him if he will
serve his country and help protect our homeland from terrorism.
Osprey¹s answer, ³No. My comfort is more important than my country.²
So once again, others are taking over for Osprey as he avoids his duty
to his country.
³Ask not, what you can do for your country, ask what your country can
do for you!² - Osprey (Pictured at
http://chiefinstigator.us.tt/spud.php )







You seem to approve of this
action because you appear to think that it justifies the actions you
feel others take against women.


Actually, I have no doubt whatsoever that either Patrick or Ray think
this was justified. You are just too deep in the ***** to back out now.


I have no doubt that you, Patrick, and Ray do think it was justified.


But then, you live in denial. What is the point of asking if you are
just going to deny the answer? Is this how you get through life?


It's like asking you..what is the point in asking you to back up one of
your claims when you are just going to avoid showing any back up. Is
that how you get through life?

Your comment makes no sense - what a surprise.








When the truth be known, you don't support women at all. In fact, you
are a bigot. A mindless, selfish, cowardly, bigot.


³And please, if you are going to act like a child and call me
names...come up with something better. - Osprey, Mon, Aug 23 2004

³The fact that you are not confident in your own argument and need to
use smokescreens because your not comfortable, and having to call
names again because your argument is weak is not my problem. You are
the one who is resorting to that, not I.² - Osprey, Tues, Apr 22 2003

³Do you see me calling you names? No you don't. I don't need to
curse or call you names.² - Osprey, Tues, Mar 4 2003

³Go figure. It is ok for libs to call names because libs think they
are always right.³ - Osprey, Mon, Mar 15 2004

³You are a idiot ... you are not interested in anything other than
trying to nit pick or call names.³ - Osprey, Fri, Jan 30 2004

³It is easy to call names, but do you actually have something to show
for it?³ - Osprey, Fri, Feb 28 2003

³What good does it do to call names?³ - Osprey, May 22 2003



What were you saying about people who save quotes and archives? Oh
yea, you claimed people like that were obsessed.


Hypocrite.


Yes, you are. Especially when nailed with your own statements.

Except I don't "save quotes and archives." And you say you are married
to a murderer.






A person was beaten, and I have YET to see one of you say that it was
wrong.


It was wrong.


It's about time you admitted it. It only took you about a dozen times
to try.


Nothing makes you happy. Republican.


I am a very happy person, you are the one full of hate.

Yeah - You sound REAL happy.







The only conclusion can be is that you support the violent
action taken against this person.


You don't say the beatings that take place in Iraq are wrong. "The only
conclusion can be is that you support the violent action taken against
[those] person[s]."


Actually, if you read some of my past postings you would see where I
have said some of the things done in Iraq are wrong.
But you don't read.


"Some?" Why only "some?"


Because that's my opinion.

So beating up a "pro-life" student might be acceptable if, in my
opinion, that was needed.

I am not like you who looks at a persons
party and bases my decisions on that.

What do you think is happening in Iraq?

That is how you think. You are a
racist as well, who judges a person based on their skin color and then
makes your opinion, just like you base a person on their political
party.

Oh, brother. From the guy who posts hate mail on the gay newsgroups.
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally 15 Feb 2006 11:23:12 AM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1140017199.701453.256670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1140000730.832047.141640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1139897157.848227.179890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com=

,

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f10526$0$58063$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f0e549$0$58089$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <a7KdnbWrlteuB3PenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.=

com>, J

Young

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

The sad reality is that those who approve of killing=

the

pre-born,

easily
justify to themselves acts of violence directed at t=

hose

who

hold

life
to be
sacred. Peaceful rallies outside abortion mills are

routinely

subjected to
nazi-like tactics, for doing no more than attempting=

to

show

these

prospective mothers pictures and other information t=

hat may

sway

some
women
to spare their baby's life. Students brave brutal

retribution

from

pro-abortionists while police turn a blind eye. If e=

qual

protection

cannot
be applied to the pre-born, at least let it apply to=

those

who

speak
in
their behalf.


Letters threatening anthrax poisoning were first used =

to

terrorize

and
disrupt reproductive health care clinics in October 19=

98,

just

days

after the murder of abortion provider Dr. Barnett Slep=

ian. At

that

time, about a dozen clinics across the country received

letters

that

claimed to contain anthrax toxin. They threatened that=

clinic

personnel
exposed to the letters would die.

Since then, additional anthrax threat letters have been

received

by

clinics in February and June 1999, January 2000, Octob=

er and

November

2001, and January 2002. As of January 2002, approximat=

ely 654

letters

have been received by clinics across the United States.

Letters

were

postmarked from various places including Kentucky, Ohi=

o,

Georgia, New

York, and Washington, DC. Early letters contained no r=

eturn

addresses,
but after law enforcement agents advised clinic person=

nel

around

the

country to avoid opening mail from anonymous senders, =

letters

started

arriving with phony return addresses that included fic=

titious

medical

supply companies, the department of taxation, other cl=

inics,

law

enforcement agencies, and pro-choice organizations.

While investigation has proven that none of the letter=

s have

actually

contained anthrax toxin, virtually every case has resu=

lted in

frightening clinic staff and patients, disrupting serv=

ices,

and

wasting
valuable law enforcement resources. The 554 letters se=

nt via

U.S.

Mail
and FedEx in 2001 have been attributed to anti-abortion

extremist

Clayton Waagner. Waagner was convicted in December 200=

3 of

various

charges including threatening the use of a weapon of m=

*****

destruction

for sending the letters. He is in prison awaiting sent=

encing.


http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/anthr=

ax.html


"Rudolph gets life for Birmingham clinic attack."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/

Abortion clinics, federal agents on alert:

<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7507549/>

Best of all:

"[t]here has been "over $13 million in damage caused by

violent

anti-abortion groups since 1982 in over 150 arson atta=

cks,

bombings,

and shootings."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm


All of the above actions are wrong and shouldn't be

tollerated. But

that doesn't excuse you from ignoring the issue of the a=

rticle.


The issue being what?


A pro-life student being beaten.


And what of the suffering and deaths that "pro-life" stude=

nt

wants to

inflict upon pregnant women?


What about the suffering and deaths you like to put on men w=

ho

don't
have a


***** Heishman slings ***** and lies and runs away.

Business as usual.




What about the suffering that the pro-life student is enduring =

from

being beaten? Do you support that action taken against the pro=

-life

student?


I heard it was an Air Marshal who did it. Does that make a diffe=

rence?


Actually I heard it was a lawyer. I am sure you approve.



Do you support men having no choice and having to pay for 18 ye=

ars if

they don't want to be a father?


That isn't what normally happens. Maybe you are just bitter beca=

use it

happened to you.


You are more than welcome to try and find a court order.


If I cared.


Barnes admits he made it up.


Idiot.

You are the one that makes up this *****, and can't back it up when
questioned. That makes YOU the idiot.
Face it, you got busted in yet one of your many lies. You said
"because it happened to you".
Yet, you can't support what you said.





Let me clue
you in, you will not find one because I took the road that a man wo=

uld

take and I stood by my wife and children, and didn't runout like a
coward like you would have done. You would have preferred she killed
the unborn child.


While a woman can just pay someone to
kill the unborn and escape any financial responsibility what so=

ever?


=B3My wife had a abortion long before we met.=B2 - Osprey, Mon, M=

ar 24 2003


Yea and?


=B3My wife had an abortion long before her and I met. She was yo=

ung=B2 -

Osprey, Thurs, Jan 20 2005


Yea and?


=B3The woman wants the fetus dead right? So she pays the hit man=

, the

abortion doctor.=B3 - Osprey, Thurs, May 1 2003


Yea and?


A mother can go and pay someone to abort, kind of like hiring a h=

it man

to do the dirty work. - Osprey, Fri, Apr 9 2004


Yea and?



So tell me, how can a person be charged with murdering the fetus =

and

the "hit" man isn't charged? - Osprey, Tues, Sep 27 2005


Still no point?


Now, give me a very logical reason why it is ok for a woman to pa=

y a

hit man (abortionist) to kill the fetus, but if someone else doe=

s it

they go to jail. - Sun, Sep 14 2003


Yea and?


Yea and?




You, like Humphrey and the other leftist cowards in here, are i=

gnoring

the fact that a human being was beaten.


Something you do daily.


Not at all, like most rational people I read the news and I have an
opinion on the issues.
You jump to conclusions and make up your own news.


You support the "war." You support Bush.


I support the war against terrorism.


LIAR

ahh we see Barnes typical child like foot stamping when he gets
frustrated...read below and witness his nonsense.


=80=80 OSPREY ADMITS TO TURNING HIS BACK ON U.S.A. =80=80

Osprey inadvertently admits, on 2/3/2006:

=B3I was offered a position with Border Patrol about a year and a half
ago. My wife and I both like it here in Delaware though.=B3

As we all know, the Bush White House states that we are at =B3war=B2 and
terrorism needs to be curtailed at the borders. Part of his =B3war on
terrorism=B2 is to increase security at the borders by hiring more border
patrol.

The United State Government comes to Osprey and asks him if he will
serve his country and help protect our homeland from terrorism.
Osprey=B9s answer, =B3No. My comfort is more important than my country.=

=B2


So once again, others are taking over for Osprey as he avoids his duty
to his country.

=B3Ask not, what you can do for your country, ask what your country can
do for you!=B2 - Osprey (Pictured at
http://chiefinstigator.us.tt/spud.php )







You seem to approve of this
action because you appear to think that it justifies the action=

s you

feel others take against women.


Actually, I have no doubt whatsoever that either Patrick or Ray t=

hink

this was justified. You are just too deep in the ***** to back ou=

t now.


I have no doubt that you, Patrick, and Ray do think it was justifie=

d=2E


But then, you live in denial. What is the point of asking if you are
just going to deny the answer? Is this how you get through life?


It's like asking you..what is the point in asking you to back up one of
your claims when you are just going to avoid showing any back up. Is
that how you get through life?


Your comment makes no sense - what a surprise.








When the truth be known, you don't support women at all. In fa=

ct, you

are a bigot. A mindless, selfish, cowardly, bigot.


=B3And please, if you are going to act like a child and call me
names...come up with something better. - Osprey, Mon, Aug 23 2004

=B3The fact that you are not confident in your own argument and =

need to

use smokescreens because your not comfortable, and having to call
names again because your argument is weak is not my problem. You=

are

the one who is resorting to that, not I.=B2 - Osprey, Tues, Apr 2=

2 2003


=B3Do you see me calling you names? No you don't. I don't need=

to

curse or call you names.=B2 - Osprey, Tues, Mar 4 2003

=B3Go figure. It is ok for libs to call names because libs thin=

k they

are always right.=B3 - Osprey, Mon, Mar 15 2004

=B3You are a idiot ... you are not interested in anything other t=

han

trying to nit pick or call names.=B3 - Osprey, Fri, Jan 30 2004

=B3It is easy to call names, but do you actually have something t=

o show

for it?=B3 - Osprey, Fri, Feb 28 2003

=B3What good does it do to call names?=B3 - Osprey, May 22 2003



What were you saying about people who save quotes and archives? Oh
yea, you claimed people like that were obsessed.


Hypocrite.


Yes, you are. Especially when nailed with your own statements.


Except I don't "save quotes and archives." And you say you are married
to a murderer.






A person was beaten, and I have YET to see one of you say that =

it was

wrong.


It was wrong.


It's about time you admitted it. It only took you about a dozen tim=

es

to try.


Nothing makes you happy. Republican.


I am a very happy person, you are the one full of hate.


Yeah - You sound REAL happy.







The only conclusion can be is that you support the violent
action taken against this person.


You don't say the beatings that take place in Iraq are wrong. "Th=

e only

conclusion can be is that you support the violent action taken ag=

ainst

[those] person[s]."


Actually, if you read some of my past postings you would see where I
have said some of the things done in Iraq are wrong.
But you don't read.


"Some?" Why only "some?"


Because that's my opinion.


So beating up a "pro-life" student might be acceptable if, in my
opinion, that was needed.

I am not like you who looks at a persons
party and bases my decisions on that.


What do you think is happening in Iraq?

That is how you think. You are a
racist as well, who judges a person based on their skin color and then
makes your opinion, just like you base a person on their political
party.


Oh, brother. From the guy who posts hate mail on the gay newsgroups.

.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally 15 Feb 2006 08:37:54 PM
In article <1140024192.804493.10120@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1140017199.701453.256670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1140000730.832047.141640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1139897157.848227.179890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f10526$0$58063$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f0e549$0$58089$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


David W. Barnes wrote:

In article

<a7KdnbWrlteuB3PenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, J

Young

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

The sad reality is that those who approve of killing

the

pre-born,

easily
justify to themselves acts of violence directed at

those

who

hold

life
to be
sacred. Peaceful rallies outside abortion mills are

routinely

subjected to
nazi-like tactics, for doing no more than attempting to

show

these

prospective mothers pictures and other information

that may

sway

some
women
to spare their baby's life. Students brave brutal

retribution

from

pro-abortionists while police turn a blind eye. If

equal

protection

cannot
be applied to the pre-born, at least let it apply to

those

who

speak
in
their behalf.


Letters threatening anthrax poisoning were first used to

terrorize

and
disrupt reproductive health care clinics in October 1998,

just

days

after the murder of abortion provider Dr. Barnett

Slepian. At

that

time, about a dozen clinics across the country received

letters

that

claimed to contain anthrax toxin. They threatened that

clinic

personnel
exposed to the letters would die.

Since then, additional anthrax threat letters have been

received

by

clinics in February and June 1999, January 2000, October

and

November

2001, and January 2002. As of January 2002,

approximately 654

letters

have been received by clinics across the United States.

Letters

were

postmarked from various places including Kentucky, Ohio,

Georgia, New

York, and Washington, DC. Early letters contained no

return

addresses,
but after law enforcement agents advised clinic personnel

around

the

country to avoid opening mail from anonymous senders,

letters

started

arriving with phony return addresses that included

fictitious

medical

supply companies, the department of taxation, other

clinics,

law

enforcement agencies, and pro-choice organizations.

While investigation has proven that none of the letters

have

actually

contained anthrax toxin, virtually every case has

resulted in

frightening clinic staff and patients, disrupting

services,

and

wasting
valuable law enforcement resources. The 554 letters sent

via

U.S.

Mail
and FedEx in 2001 have been attributed to anti-abortion

extremist

Clayton Waagner. Waagner was convicted in December 2003

of

various

charges including threatening the use of a weapon of mass

destruction

for sending the letters. He is in prison awaiting

sentencing.



http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/anthrax.html


"Rudolph gets life for Birmingham clinic attack."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/

Abortion clinics, federal agents on alert:

<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7507549/>

Best of all:

"[t]here has been "over $13 million in damage caused by

violent

anti-abortion groups since 1982 in over 150 arson

attacks,

bombings,

and shootings."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm


All of the above actions are wrong and shouldn't be

tollerated. But

that doesn't excuse you from ignoring the issue of the

article.


The issue being what?


A pro-life student being beaten.


And what of the suffering and deaths that "pro-life" student

wants to

inflict upon pregnant women?


What about the suffering and deaths you like to put on men who
don't
have a


***** Heishman slings ***** and lies and runs away.

Business as usual.




What about the suffering that the pro-life student is enduring
from
being beaten? Do you support that action taken against the
pro-life
student?


I heard it was an Air Marshal who did it. Does that make a
difference?


Actually I heard it was a lawyer. I am sure you approve.



Do you support men having no choice and having to pay for 18
years if
they don't want to be a father?


That isn't what normally happens. Maybe you are just bitter
because it
happened to you.


You are more than welcome to try and find a court order.


If I cared.


Barnes admits he made it up.


Idiot.


You are the one that makes up this *****, and can't back it up when
questioned. That makes YOU the idiot.

Face it, you got busted in yet one of your many lies. You said
"because it happened to you".

Yet, you can't support what you said.

By getting you to admit to it.








Let me clue
you in, you will not find one because I took the road that a man would
take and I stood by my wife and children, and didn't runout like a
coward like you would have done. You would have preferred she killed
the unborn child.


While a woman can just pay someone to
kill the unborn and escape any financial responsibility what so
ever?


³My wife had a abortion long before we met.² - Osprey, Mon, Mar 24
2003


Yea and?


³My wife had an abortion long before her and I met. She was young²
-
Osprey, Thurs, Jan 20 2005


Yea and?


³The woman wants the fetus dead right? So she pays the hit man, the
abortion doctor.³ - Osprey, Thurs, May 1 2003


Yea and?


A mother can go and pay someone to abort, kind of like hiring a hit
man
to do the dirty work. - Osprey, Fri, Apr 9 2004


Yea and?



So tell me, how can a person be charged with murdering the fetus and
the "hit" man isn't charged? - Osprey, Tues, Sep 27 2005


Still no point?


Now, give me a very logical reason why it is ok for a woman to pay a
hit man (abortionist) to kill the fetus, but if someone else does
it
they go to jail. - Sun, Sep 14 2003


Yea and?


Yea and?




You, like Humphrey and the other leftist cowards in here, are
ignoring
the fact that a human being was beaten.


Something you do daily.


Not at all, like most rational people I read the news and I have an
opinion on the issues.
You jump to conclusions and make up your own news.


You support the "war." You support Bush.


I support the war against terrorism.


LIAR


ahh we see Barnes typical child like foot stamping when he gets
frustrated...read below and witness his nonsense.

Yeah - Read Below



€€ OSPREY ADMITS TO TURNING HIS BACK ON U.S.A. €€

Osprey inadvertently admits, on 2/3/2006:

³I was offered a position with Border Patrol about a year and a half
ago. My wife and I both like it here in Delaware though.³

As we all know, the Bush White House states that we are at ³war² and
terrorism needs to be curtailed at the borders. Part of his ³war on
terrorism² is to increase security at the borders by hiring more border
patrol.

The United State Government comes to Osprey and asks him if he will
serve his country and help protect our homeland from terrorism.
Osprey¹s answer, ³No. My comfort is more important than my country.²

So once again, others are taking over for Osprey as he avoids his duty
to his country.

³Ask not, what you can do for your country, ask what your country can
do for you!² - Osprey (Pictured at
http://chiefinstigator.us.tt/spud.php )

Others can make sacrifices, Osprey just sits on his big fat ***** and
condones the deaths of thousands.
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Pro-Life Student Assaulted at William and Mary College During Abortion Rally 16 Feb 2006 02:58:54 AM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1140024192.804493.10120@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1140017199.701453.256670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1140000730.832047.141640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com=

,

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1139897157.848227.179890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups=

..com>,

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43f10526$0$58063$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

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