Religions > Atheism > Proof by LORD Almighty GOD: all the rebuking has caused satan tobecome more demented.
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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31 Dec 2007 11:50:06 AM |
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Proof by LORD Almighty GOD: all the rebuking has caused satan tobecome more demented. |
Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/993d2e94de65ecd2?
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| User: "J A" |
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| Title: Re: Proof by LORD Almighty GOD: all the rebuking has caused satan tobecome more demented. |
31 Dec 2007 01:14:54 PM |
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On Dec 31, 10:50=A0am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amaz <snip>
The Old Testament has Commandments which condemn worshipping gods
other than yahweh, and idol worship (crosses etc.) - you do both.
According to the Ten Commandments, YOU are condemned.
There is no Commandment against atheism.
As to jesus being the messiah, why don't you refute what this rabbi
has to say?
Jesus as the Messiah? by Rabbi Shraga Simmons
Question:
Why did the majority of the Jewish world reject Jesus as the Messiah,
and why did the first Christians accept Jesus as the Messiah?
Answer
It is important to understand why Jews don't believe in Jesus.
Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:
1) Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
2) Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
3) Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
4) Jewish belief is based on national revelation.
At the end of this article, we will examine these additional topics:
5) Christianity contradicts Jewish theology
6) Jews and Gentiles
7) Bringing the Messiah
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1) JESUS DID NOT FULFILL THE MESSIANIC PROPHECIES
What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he
will:
A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression,
suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword
against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite
humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world --
on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah
14:9).
The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic
prophecies.
Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming,
but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies
outright, and no concept of a second coming exists.
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2) JESUS DID NOT EMBODY THE PERSONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF MESSIAH
A. MESSIAH AS PROPHET
Jesus was not a prophet. Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the
land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry. During the time of
Ezra (circa 300 BCE), when the majority of Jews refused to move from
Babylon to Israel, prophecy ended upon the death of the last prophets
-- Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.
Jesus appeared on the scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had
ended.
B. DESCENDENT OF DAVID
The Messiah must be descended on his father's side from King David
(see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). According to the Christian claim
that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father -- and
thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of
being descended on his father's side from King David!
C. TORAH OBSERVANCE
The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The
Torah states that all mitzvot remain binding forever, and anyone
coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false
prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)
Throughout the New Testament, Jesus contradicts the Torah and states
that its commandments are no longer applicable. (see John 1:45 and
9:16, Acts 3:22 and 7:37)
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3) MISTRANSLATED VERSES "REFERRING" TO JESUS
Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew
text -- which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation.
A. VIRGIN BIRTH
The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in
Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has
always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries
later and translated it as "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth with
the first century pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods.
B. CRUCIFIXION
The verse in Psalms 22:17 reads: "Like a lion, they are at my hands
and feet." The Hebrew word ki-ari (like a lion) is grammatically
similar to the word "gouged." Thus Christianity reads the verse as a
reference to crucifixion: "They pierced my hands and feet."
C. SUFFERING SERVANT
Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the
"suffering servant."
In actuality, Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52,
describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people. The
prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews
("Israel") are regarded as one unit. The Torah is filled with examples
of the Jewish nation referred to with a singular pronoun.
Ironically, Isaiah's prophecies of persecution refer in part to the
11th century when Jews were tortured and killed by Crusaders who acted
in the name of Jesus.
=46rom where did these mistranslations stem? St. Gregory, 4th century
Bishop of Nanianzus, wrote: "A little jargon is all that is necessary
to impose on the people. The less they comprehend, the more they
admire."
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4) JEWISH BELIEF IS BASED SOLELY ON NATIONAL REVELATION
Of the 15,000 religions in human history, only Judaism bases its
belief on national revelation -- i.e. God speaking to the entire
nation. If God is going to start a religion, it makes sense He'll tell
everyone, not just one person.
Judaism, unique among all of the world's major religions, does not
rely on "claims of miracles" as the basis for its religion. In fact,
the Bible says that God sometimes grants the power of "miracles" to
charlatans, in order to test Jewish loyalty to the Torah (Deut. 13:4).
Maimonides states (Foundations of Torah, ch. 8):
The Jews did not believe in Moses, our teacher, because of the
miracles he performed. Whenever anyone's belief is based on seeing
miracles, he has lingering doubts, because it is possible the miracles
were performed through magic or sorcery. All of the miracles performed
by Moses in the desert were because they were necessary, and not as
proof of his prophecy.
What then was the basis of [Jewish] belief? The Revelation at Mount
Sinai, which we saw with our own eyes and heard with our own ears, not
dependent on the testimony of others... as it says, "Face to face, God
spoke with you..." The Torah also states: "God did not make this
covenant with our fathers, but with us -- who are all here alive
today." (Deut. 5:3)
Judaism is not miracles. It is the personal eyewitness experience of
every man, woman and child, standing at Mount Sinai 3,300 years ago.
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5) CHRISTIANITY CONTRADICTS JEWISH THEOLOGY
The following theological points apply primarily to the Roman Catholic
Church, the largest Christian denomination, and the one most familiar
to the Western world.
A. GOD AS THREE?
The Catholic idea of Trinity breaks God into three separate beings:
The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19).
Contrast this to the Shema, the basis of Jewish belief: "Hear O
Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE" (Deut. 6:4). Jews declare
the Shema every day, while writing it on doorposts (Mezuzah), and
binding it to the hand and head (Tefillin). This statement of God's
One-ness is the first words a Jewish child is taught to say, and the
last words uttered before a Jew dies.
In Jewish law, worship of a three-part god is considered idolatry --
one of the three cardinal sins that a Jew should rather give up his
life than transgress. This explains why during the Inquisitions and
throughout history, Jews gave up their lives rather than convert.
B. MAN AS GOD?
Christians believe that God came down to earth in human form, as Jesus
said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).
Maimonides devotes most of the "Guide for the Perplexed" to the
fundamental idea that God is incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no
physical form. God is Eternal, above time. He is Infinite, beyond
space. He cannot be born, and cannot die. Saying that God assumes
human form makes God small, diminishing both His unity and His
divinity. As the Torah says: "God is not a mortal" (Numbers 23:19).
Judaism says that the Messiah will be born of human parents, and
possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a
demi-god, and will not possess supernatural qualities. In fact, an
individual is alive in every generation with the capacity to step into
the role of the Messiah. (see Maimonides - Laws of Kings 11:3)
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| User: "Mike Mordant" |
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| Title: The irony of Chung calling an imaginary entity demented. |
31 Dec 2007 01:04:30 PM |
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On Dec 31, 11:50=A0am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/993d2e94de65ecd2?
<><
http://TruthRUS.org/BeRight
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Rebuke satan again and enjoy a blessedly wonderful New Years :-))) |
31 Dec 2007 04:16:10 PM |
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http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
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May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
New Years ...
.... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
.... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-)))
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| User: "J666" |
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| Title: "Chungy want a quacker," said the parrot Chungy |
31 Dec 2007 04:23:26 PM |
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On Dec 31, 4:16 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
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May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
New Years ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-)))
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo Quote |
01 Jan 2008 10:13:05 AM |
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with
sense, reason, and intellect had intended for us to forgo their use.
Galileo
It is your lies, satan, that robs us of our ability to use our GOD-
given senses, reason, and intellect to know and do what GOD wants us
to do so that we end up perishing trapped in sin as predicted by the
prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11.
May we, who are no longer perishing because we have stopped sinning
though we remain sinners, continue to rebuke you at every GOD-given
opportunity:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
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May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
New Years Day ...
.... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
.... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-)))
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