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"Andrew W" |
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26 Mar 2005 03:36:35 AM |
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Proof christians are full of crap |
Proof christians are full of crap.
Christians say that "God is love".
But if you ask them another time why God made humans then their standard
answer is - "to have someone to love him" (obviously because all his angels
have left him. No surprise there).
But if God is love then why does he need someone to love him?
Why does 'Love' need 'love'?
Lol.
It would be like the ocean asking for glasses of water.
Then christians say - "He did it not because 'He' needs our love but because
'we' needed to love him".
But the thing is, before we existed we had no needs for anything at all.
He obviously created us to fill his own needs, even though a god that is
everything is not supposed to have any needs because he has whatever he
wants the very instant he desires it, and being 'Love' itself, he needs no
love from anyone.
Heh. Christianity is a big cuckoo factory.
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Andrew W.
History books that contain no lies are extremely dull. The christian bible
is a very interesting book indeed.
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
03 Apr 2005 02:39:46 PM |
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"Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)" <sob@sob.com> wrote in message
news:424f4e80.71572315@news-server.houston.rr.com...
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:59:38 -0500, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
No one has to, after you attempted to tilt the discussion by definition,
you
were tuned out by everyone. Get a real life, SOB, it appears that you need
it.
So, now you admit that you did not read my arguments.
You are a liar.
Gee, you must be a fundie, you can't read for comprehension. Now *****,
please listen carefully, I said no one 'had' to, that said nothing about
whether they were read or not. Can your simple mind understand that much? I
do hope so because I'm getting tired of having to spoon feed you. Next I
mentioned your discussion by definition, now tell me *****, how would I
know this if I hadn't read the posts??? See how simple it is if you only
fired off a few of your neurons.
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| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
03 Apr 2005 05:55:10 PM |
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Tom wrote:
"Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)" <sob@sob.com> wrote in message
news:424f4e80.71572315@news-server.houston.rr.com...
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:59:38 -0500, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com>
wrote:
No one has to, after you attempted to tilt the discussion by
definition,
you
were tuned out by everyone. Get a real life, SOB, it appears that
you need
it.
So, now you admit that you did not read my arguments.
You are a liar.
Gee, you must be a fundie, you can't read for comprehension.
Has he also sliced and diced your text as well?
Now *****,
please listen carefully, I said no one 'had' to, that said nothing
about
whether they were read or not. Can your simple mind understand that
much?
Methinks he is a troll. Trolls live for reaction. There
is little they won't say or do to get it. Thus for him
to call you a liar is like the village idiot calling
you a liar, and even less meaningful.
I
do hope so because I'm getting tired of having to spoon feed you.
Margaritas ante porcos.
Next I
mentioned your discussion by definition, now tell me *****, how
would I
know this if I hadn't read the posts??? See how simple it is if you
only
fired off a few of your neurons.
I think we both have wasted too much time on this minor
league miscreant.
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| User: "Tom" |
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| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
03 Apr 2005 06:35:01 PM |
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<jfacts@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1112568910.226594.127410@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Tom wrote:
"Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)" <sob@sob.com> wrote in message
news:424f4e80.71572315@news-server.houston.rr.com...
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:59:38 -0500, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com>
wrote:
No one has to, after you attempted to tilt the discussion by
definition,
you
were tuned out by everyone. Get a real life, SOB, it appears that
you need
it.
So, now you admit that you did not read my arguments.
You are a liar.
Gee, you must be a fundie, you can't read for comprehension.
Has he also sliced and diced your text as well?
Now *****,
please listen carefully, I said no one 'had' to, that said nothing
about
whether they were read or not. Can your simple mind understand that
much?
Methinks he is a troll. Trolls live for reaction. There
is little they won't say or do to get it. Thus for him
to call you a liar is like the village idiot calling
you a liar, and even less meaningful.
I
do hope so because I'm getting tired of having to spoon feed you.
Margaritas ante porcos.
Next I
mentioned your discussion by definition, now tell me *****, how
would I
know this if I hadn't read the posts??? See how simple it is if you
only
fired off a few of your neurons.
I think we both have wasted too much time on this minor
league miscreant.
I tend to agree, the fun has gone out of it. I'll killfile this
philosophical giant :-).
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
03 Apr 2005 09:01:46 PM |
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:35:01 -0400, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
I tend to agree, the fun has gone out of it. I'll killfile this
philosophical giant :-).
How juvenile.
Good riddance.
Just make sure you stay that way.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start
using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very
nervous that these people have these weapons at all!"
--Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.)
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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03 Apr 2005 09:01:06 PM |
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On 3 Apr 2005 15:55:10 -0700, wrote:
Methinks he is a troll.
I am a troll, *****.
Pay attention, willya.
And don't smoke so much dope while reading posts on Usenet.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start
using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very
nervous that these people have these weapons at all!"
--Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.)
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| User: "" |
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05 Apr 2005 09:55:03 AM |
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Sweet Ol' Bob SOB wrote:
On 3 Apr 2005 15:55:10 -0700, wrote:
Methinks he is a troll.
I am a troll, *****.
Ok, you're a troll *****. My mistake.
Pay attention, willya.
One of us should.
And don't smoke so much dope while reading posts on Usenet.
Shouldn't it be "troll ***** psychic" then?
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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05 Apr 2005 11:21:09 AM |
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On 5 Apr 2005 07:55:03 -0700, wrote:
Methinks he is a troll.
I am a troll, *****.
Ok, you're a troll *****. My mistake.
Pay attention, willya.
One of us should.
And don't smoke so much dope while reading posts on Usenet.
Shouldn't it be "troll ***** psychic" then?
<yawn>
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start
using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very
nervous that these people have these weapons at all!"
--Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.)
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| User: "Hector Plasmic" |
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06 Apr 2005 01:36:36 PM |
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And apparently you can't read posts on Usenet.
Ah, but I can, and have, read your posts.
You have obviously not read all of them.
It is not obvious. Why not put me in my place by showing us the posts
wherein you actually make an argument in support of my claims? Are you
-- *gasp* -- unable to actually back up anything you say? Say it Ain't
so, Silly Bobby!
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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06 Apr 2005 01:52:17 PM |
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On 6 Apr 2005 11:36:36 -0700, "Hector Plasmic" <hec@hectorplasmic.com>
wrote:
Why not put me in my place by showing us the posts
wherein you actually make an argument in support of my claims?
Why would I want to post an argument that supports your claims?
You shouldn't be smoking dope this early in the day.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
An atheist visited Isaac Newton and noticed his new toy,
a mechanical model of the Solar System.
"Who made this?", asked the atheist.
"No one", replied Newton.
"But somebody MUST have made it - it couldn't make itself",
said the atheist.
"Why do you believe that about the model, but not about the
real thing?", asked Newton.
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| User: "Hector Plasmic" |
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07 Apr 2005 10:28:56 AM |
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Why not put me in my place by showing us the posts
wherein you actually make an argument in support of
my claims?
Why would I want to post an argument that supports your
claims?
Well, you can't seem to support your own, so I thought you might find
this easier. :-)
Obviously, you just find the whole logical argumentation thing way over
your head.
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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07 Apr 2005 03:47:24 PM |
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On 7 Apr 2005 08:28:56 -0700, "Hector Plasmic" <hec@hectorplasmic.com>
wrote:
Why not put me in my place by showing us the posts
wherein you actually make an argument in support of
my claims?
Why would I want to post an argument that supports your
claims?
Well, you can't seem to support your own, so I thought you might find
this easier. :-)
Obviously, you just find the whole logical argumentation thing way over
your head.
<yawn>
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
An atheist visited Isaac Newton and noticed his new toy,
a mechanical model of the Solar System.
"Who made this?", asked the atheist.
"No one", replied Newton.
"But somebody MUST have made it - it couldn't make itself",
said the atheist.
"Why do you believe that about the model, but not about the
real thing?", asked Newton.
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| User: "Hector Plasmic" |
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08 Apr 2005 09:21:05 AM |
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Obviously, you just find the whole logical argumentation thing way
over your head.
<yawn>
Okay, you find contemplating the whole logical argumentation thing robs
your tiny brain of sufficient oxygen and makes you yawn, if you prefer.
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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08 Apr 2005 12:50:01 PM |
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On 8 Apr 2005 07:21:05 -0700, "Hector Plasmic" <hec@hectorplasmic.com>
wrote:
Okay, you find contemplating the whole logical argumentation thing robs
your tiny brain of sufficient oxygen and makes you yawn, if you prefer.
No, I merely ignore it because as I said, my purpose here is to prove
the existence of the Supreme Being using rational arguments based on
the system called Existential Metaphysics.
If there is something you do not understand,I will attempt to explain
it. But I am not going to argue with people who drag in all sorts of
extraneous issues simply because I am not able to do so.
A Physicist proves a theorem but does not waste his time defending it
against astrologers.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
An atheist visited Isaac Newton and noticed his new toy,
a mechanical model of the Solar System.
"Who made this?", asked the atheist.
"No one", replied Newton.
"But somebody MUST have made it - it couldn't make itself",
said the atheist.
"Why do you believe that about the model, but not about the
real thing?", asked Newton.
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| User: "Hector Plasmic" |
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08 Apr 2005 01:36:32 PM |
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Okay, you find contemplating the whole logical argumentation
thing robs your tiny brain of sufficient oxygen and makes you
yawn, if you prefer.
No, I merely ignore it
So you ignore logical argumentation because it makes you fall asleep?
Why, how special for you, Silly Bobby!
my purpose here is to prove the existence of the
Supreme Being using rational arguments
Silly Bobby, if you ignore logical argumentation and fall asleep in its
presence, how do you expect to prove anything but what a garden variety
moron you are?
If there is something you do not understand,I will attempt
to explain it.
You have yet to present an argument to be understood or explained,
Silly Bobby.
A Physicist proves a theorem
But you don't even bother presenting one.
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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08 Apr 2005 05:02:11 PM |
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On 8 Apr 2005 11:36:32 -0700, "Hector Plasmic" <hec@hectorplasmic.com>
wrote:
You have yet to present an argument
Posted to: alt.atheism,alt.agnosticism,talk.atheism,alt.religion
Subject: Supreme Being of Existential Metaphysics
Date: Friday April 8, 2005, 5:00 pm CT
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
An atheist visited Isaac Newton and noticed his new toy,
a mechanical model of the Solar System.
"Who made this?", asked the atheist.
"No one", replied Newton.
"But somebody MUST have made it - it couldn't make itself",
said the atheist.
"Why do you believe that about the model, but not about the
real thing?", asked Newton.
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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08 Apr 2005 11:45:22 AM |
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On 8 Apr 2005 07:21:05 -0700, "Hector Plasmic" <hec@hectorplasmic.com>
wrote:
Obviously, you just find the whole logical argumentation thing way
over your head.
<yawn>
Okay, you find contemplating the whole logical argumentation thing robs
your tiny brain of sufficient oxygen and makes you yawn, if you prefer.
<YAWN>
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
An atheist visited Isaac Newton and noticed his new toy,
a mechanical model of the Solar System.
"Who made this?", asked the atheist.
"No one", replied Newton.
"But somebody MUST have made it - it couldn't make itself",
said the atheist.
"Why do you believe that about the model, but not about the
real thing?", asked Newton.
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| User: "Hector Plasmic" |
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08 Apr 2005 11:55:55 AM |
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Obviously, you just find the whole logical argumentation thing way
over your head.
<yawn>
Okay, you find contemplating the whole logical argumentation
thing robs your tiny brain of sufficient oxygen and makes you
yawn, if you prefer.
<YAWN>
Hey, don't blame me for your problems, little guy.
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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01 Apr 2005 06:34:38 PM |
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On 1 Apr 2005 13:41:30 -0800, "Hector Plasmic" <hec@hectorplasmic.com>
wrote:
And apparently you can't read posts on Usenet.
Ah, but I can, and have, read your posts. It's just that you aren't
making any arguments in them.
You don't know what a rational argument is.
ROTF! Where are they destroyed?
In this very thread, and in others in alt.atheism.holysmoke, of course.
No one has destroyed anything around here.
Your claim to have posted arguments to support your position is itself
an unsupported claim -- those posts are not to be found in the Google
archives.
Dismissed.
I have posted my arguments on one of the forums I participate in.
Since I do not participate in the loony forums you participate in, its
is not surprising that you did not read them.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
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| User: "Tom" |
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02 Apr 2005 12:41:15 PM |
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"Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)" <sob@sob.com> wrote in message
news:424de820.36471893@news-server.houston.rr.com...
On 1 Apr 2005 13:41:30 -0800, "Hector Plasmic" <hec@hectorplasmic.com>
wrote:
And apparently you can't read posts on Usenet.
Ah, but I can, and have, read your posts. It's just that you aren't
making any arguments in them.
You don't know what a rational argument is.
And you have clue?
ROTF! Where are they destroyed?
In this very thread, and in others in alt.atheism.holysmoke, of course.
No one has destroyed anything around here.
Certainly not you.
Your claim to have posted arguments to support your position is itself
an unsupported claim -- those posts are not to be found in the Google
archives.
Dismissed.
I have posted my arguments on one of the forums I participate in.
Since I do not participate in the loony forums you participate in, its
is not surprising that you did not read them.
I don't know how to break the news to you SOB, but that doesn't help your
cause in this forum.
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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02 Apr 2005 02:13:05 PM |
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On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:41:15 -0500, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have posted my arguments on one of the forums I participate in.
Since I do not participate in the loony forums you participate in, its
is not surprising that you did not read them.
I don't know how to break the news to you SOB, but that doesn't help your
cause in this forum.
I have no cause.
I do it for sport.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
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| User: "Tom" |
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02 Apr 2005 03:08:28 PM |
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"Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)" <sob@sob.com> wrote in message
news:424efcbb.50639966@news-server.houston.rr.com...
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:41:15 -0500, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have posted my arguments on one of the forums I participate in.
Since I do not participate in the loony forums you participate in, its
is not surprising that you did not read them.
I don't know how to break the news to you SOB, but that doesn't help your
cause in this forum.
I have no cause.
I do it for sport.
Good for you SOB, from the methods which you use to debate with people I'm
surprised that you are still around. It will be jolly good fun, however.
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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02 Apr 2005 06:16:05 PM |
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On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 16:08:28 -0500, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
Good for you SOB, from the methods which you use to debate with people I'm
surprised that you are still around.
What debate?
It will be jolly good fun, however.
Have you read my arguments for the existence of the Supreme Being?
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
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| User: "Tom" |
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02 Apr 2005 06:58:07 PM |
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"Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)" <sob@sob.com> wrote in message
news:424f3595.65193883@news-server.houston.rr.com...
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 16:08:28 -0500, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
Good for you SOB, from the methods which you use to debate with people I'm
surprised that you are still around.
What debate?
Glad you recognize that.
It will be jolly good fun, however.
Have you read my arguments for the existence of the Supreme Being?
Yes, and they aren't anymore convincing than the arguments put forth by the
rabid fundamentalist.
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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02 Apr 2005 08:01:18 PM |
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On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:58:07 -0500, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yes, and they aren't anymore convincing than the arguments put forth by the
rabid fundamentalist.
What specifically are you referring to?
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
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| User: "Hector Plasmic" |
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05 Apr 2005 11:40:02 AM |
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And apparently you can't read posts on Usenet.
Ah, but I can, and have, read your posts. It's just that you
aren't making any arguments in them.
You don't know what a rational argument is.
Why not present one and see? After all, you can't very well accuse me
of not recognizing what you have not presented, can you? :-)
Your claim to have posted arguments to support your position is
itself
an unsupported claim -- those posts are not to be found in the
Google
archives. Dismissed.
I have posted my arguments on one of the forums I participate in.
Ah, nameless arguments in nameless forums! No doubt they have been
scrutinized and approved by nameless scientists!
Try again, goober.
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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05 Apr 2005 01:32:37 PM |
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On 5 Apr 2005 09:40:02 -0700, "Hector Plasmic" <hec@hectorplasmic.com>
wrote:
I have posted my arguments on one of the forums I participate in.
Ah, nameless arguments in nameless forums! No doubt they have been
scrutinized and approved by nameless scientists!
Try again, goober.
<yawn>
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start
using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very
nervous that these people have these weapons at all!"
--Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.)
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| User: "Hector Plasmic" |
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06 Apr 2005 10:20:31 AM |
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I have posted my arguments on one of the forums I participate in.
Ah, nameless arguments in nameless forums! No doubt they have
been scrutinized and approved by nameless scientists!
Try again, goober.
<yawn>
Oh, yeah, that convinced me. Oh, wait, you were conceding defeat.
Never mind.
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| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
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06 Apr 2005 11:02:53 AM |
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On 6 Apr 2005 08:20:31 -0700, "Hector Plasmic" <hec@hectorplasmic.com>
wrote:
I have posted my arguments on one of the forums I participate in.
Ah, nameless arguments in nameless forums! No doubt they have
been scrutinized and approved by nameless scientists!
Try again, goober.
<yawn>
Oh, yeah, that convinced me. Oh, wait, you were conceding defeat.
Never mind.
<YAWN>
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
An atheist visited Isaac Newton and noticed his new toy,
a mechanical model of the Solar System.
"Who made this?", asked the atheist.
"No one", replied Newton.
"But somebody MUST have made it - it couldn't make itself",
said the atheist.
"Why do you believe that about the model, but not about the
real thing?", asked Newton.
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| User: "Hector Plasmic" |
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06 Apr 2005 01:35:06 PM |
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I have posted my arguments on one of the forums I participate in.
Ah, nameless arguments in nameless forums! No doubt they
have been scrutinized and approved by nameless scientists!
Try again, goober.
<yawn>
Oh, yeah, that convinced me. Oh, wait, you were conceding
defeat. Never mind.
<YAWN>
You concede, you lost, we got it already.
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| User: "" |
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03 Apr 2005 05:59:32 AM |
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Sweet Ol' Bob SOB wrote:
On 31 Mar 2005 12:37:05 -0800, wrote:
God can do whatever he wants, so who cares?
That is absurd. God cannot do anything that results in a
contradiction.
How do you know this?
If you allow inconsistency, then there can be no Order.
Basing assertions on other unsupported assertions is
a problematic technique.
It is not an unsupported assertion.
Yes it is. You offered no support for the claim. And
you continue to offer no support for it.
In fact it is intuitively obvious
upon casual inspection.
Then walk us through the syllogisms that makes it
"intuitively obvious." You continue to offer blatant
assertions in "support" of other blatant assertions.
However, you do have to understand Existential
Metaphysics. You are too dull to be able to do that.
Your inability to back up your claims is really my fault.
I see. Your reliance on logical fallacy is just more
evidence that you really are in over your head when it
comes to defending claims.
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