| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Andrew W" |
| Date: |
26 Mar 2005 03:36:35 AM |
| Object: |
Proof christians are full of crap |
Proof christians are full of crap.
Christians say that "God is love".
But if you ask them another time why God made humans then their standard
answer is - "to have someone to love him" (obviously because all his angels
have left him. No surprise there).
But if God is love then why does he need someone to love him?
Why does 'Love' need 'love'?
Lol.
It would be like the ocean asking for glasses of water.
Then christians say - "He did it not because 'He' needs our love but because
'we' needed to love him".
But the thing is, before we existed we had no needs for anything at all.
He obviously created us to fill his own needs, even though a god that is
everything is not supposed to have any needs because he has whatever he
wants the very instant he desires it, and being 'Love' itself, he needs no
love from anyone.
Heh. Christianity is a big cuckoo factory.
--
Andrew W.
History books that contain no lies are extremely dull. The christian bible
is a very interesting book indeed.
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
.
|
|
| User: "Dan Listermann" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
01 Apr 2005 07:28:09 AM |
|
|
"Charles & Mambo Duckman" <duckman@gfy.slf> wrote in message
news:Jv6dnQzGbsbDctHfRVn-vw@comcast.com...
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB) wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:25:29 -0500, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:
Move to Communist China if you don't like America.
I walk to work. Does that make me a Communist?
Do you like Commies more than Americans?
Keep up with the times. The current boogeyman is the Liberals.
Excellent point but you need to pronounce it differently. " LIB er RULS" or
"Traitor" works as well.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
01 Apr 2005 10:03:24 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:28:09 -0500, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:
Do you like Commies more than Americans?
Keep up with the times. The current boogeyman is the Liberals.
Excellent point but you need to pronounce it differently. " LIB er RULS" or
"Traitor" works as well.
If you keep up with the times you know that the term "commies" (lower
case 'c') is used extensively among Conservatives to denote "Liberals"
on the extreme FarLeft.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
| User: "Dan Listermann" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
01 Apr 2005 10:12:44 AM |
|
|
"Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)" <sob@sob.com> wrote in message
news:424d708d.5860837@news-server.houston.rr.com...
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:28:09 -0500, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:
Do you like Commies more than Americans?
Keep up with the times. The current boogeyman is the Liberals.
Excellent point but you need to pronounce it differently. " LIB er RULS"
or
"Traitor" works as well.
If you keep up with the times you know that the term "commies" (lower
case 'c') is used extensively among Conservatives to denote "Liberals"
on the extreme FarLeft.
Sure, the neo-cons have to make these connections for their demonizations to
work. Would you expect something else?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
01 Apr 2005 10:51:35 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:12:44 -0500, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:
Sure, the neo-cons have to make these connections for their demonizations to
work. Would you expect something else?
Not in politics I wouldn't.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Fred Stone" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
01 Apr 2005 10:01:25 AM |
|
|
Charles & Mambo Duckman <duckman@gfy.slf> wrote in
news:Jv6dnQzGbsbDctHfRVn-vw@comcast.com:
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB) wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:25:29 -0500, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:
Move to Communist China if you don't like America.
I walk to work. Does that make me a Communist?
Do you like Commies more than Americans?
Keep up with the times. The current boogeyman is the Liberals.
I thought it was the Neocons.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
01 Apr 2005 10:50:51 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:01:25 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
I thought it was the Neocons.
There are so few Neocons that the term is not meaningful. It is not
used by Conservatives.
Possibly there are some leftovers from the heyday of the FarRight -
people like Buchanan and others from the Religious Right. But they are
irrelevant in today's politics.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
| User: "Fred Stone" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
01 Apr 2005 11:25:34 AM |
|
|
(Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)) wrote in news:424d7b72.8650068@news-
server.houston.rr.com:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:01:25 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
I thought it was the Neocons.
There are so few Neocons that the term is not meaningful. It is not
used by Conservatives.
Well, duh.
Possibly there are some leftovers from the heyday of the FarRight -
people like Buchanan and others from the Religious Right. But they are
irrelevant in today's politics.
All the better to create a strawman.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
01 Apr 2005 11:58:58 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:25:34 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
All the better to create a strawman.
If that's your thing, be my guest. Maybe you can form a cult of people
who like to use irrelevant words.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
01 Apr 2005 05:15:17 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:51:09 -0800, Charles & Mambo Duckman
<duckman@gfy.slf> wrote:
Do you like Commies more than Americans?
Keep up with the times. The current boogeyman is the Liberals.
Follow the entire thread and find out why Commies even came up.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Elroy Willis" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
30 Mar 2005 08:25:30 PM |
|
|
(Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)) wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
If the world's largest neo-theocracy wasn't armed to the teeth with
nuclear weapons, we wouldnt be discussing any of this nonsense.
Is that all you see when you look at the US - a bunch of nukes?
Pretty much.
Don't forget all the oil grubbers!
You would rather live in a country where people aren't free and have
to walk instead of drive a car?
More people riding bicycles and driving electric cars would be nice.
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
30 Mar 2005 08:48:52 PM |
|
|
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:25:30 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
You would rather live in a country where people aren't free and have
to walk instead of drive a car?
More people riding bicycles and driving electric cars would be nice.
Then you would just love Communist China. Why don't you go live there
since you find America so disgusting.
While you are at it, take all the rest of the leftist queers with you.
We are really getting tired of all their whining.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
| User: "Elroy Willis" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 08:57:56 AM |
|
|
(Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)) wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
You would rather live in a country where people aren't free and have
to walk instead of drive a car?
More people riding bicycles and driving electric cars would be nice.
Then you would just love Communist China. Why don't you go live there
since you find America so disgusting.
I'm a capitalistic atheist, not a communist.
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 11:34:16 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:57:56 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Then you would just love Communist China. Why don't you go live there
since you find America so disgusting.
I'm a capitalistic atheist, not a communist.
Then it's going to be a bit difficult getting along when you move to
China.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "yõwïe" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 02:06:31 AM |
|
|
In <424b649f.22893589@news-server.houston.rr.com>
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB) trolled to
[alt.atheism.satire]:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:25:30 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
You would rather live in a country where people aren't free and have
to walk instead of drive a car?
More people riding bicycles and driving electric cars would be nice.
Then you would just love Communist China. Why don't you go live there
since you find America so disgusting.
The last thing China wants is more people. <sigh>
While you are at it, take all the rest of the leftist queers with you.
We are really getting tired of all their whining.
We?
--
"...brainlessness is no hindrance to
finding love and grace in Jesus Christ."
-Pastor Frank
.
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 07:52:13 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:36:31 +0930, yõwïe <hweh-says@aifind.info>
wrote:
The last thing China wants is more people. <sigh>
Then they need to do something to make it less attractive to leftist
queers.
While you are at it, take all the rest of the leftist queers with you.
We are really getting tired of all their whining.
We?
The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy:
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
| User: "Elroy Willis" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 10:23:29 AM |
|
|
(Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)) wrote in alt.atheism
yõwïe <hweh-says@aifind.info> wrote:
The last thing China wants is more people. <sigh>
Then they need to do something to make it less attractive to leftist
queers.
While you are at it, take all the rest of the leftist queers with you.
We are really getting tired of all their whining.
We?
The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy:
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html
Interesting that the Bush counties are pictured in Commie Red, don't
you think? It's the "True Blue" Americans who support liberty and
freedom that seem to be in the minority.
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.
|
|
|
| User: "Bob" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 02:10:37 PM |
|
|
Elroy Willis wrote:
sob@sob.com (Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)) wrote in alt.atheism
yõwïe <hweh-says@aifind.info> wrote:
The last thing China wants is more people. <sigh>
Then they need to do something to make it less attractive to leftist
queers.
While you are at it, take all the rest of the leftist queers with you.
We are really getting tired of all their whining.
We?
The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy:
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html
Interesting that the Bush counties are pictured in Commie Red, don't
you think? It's the "True Blue" Americans who support liberty and
freedom that seem to be in the minority.
Better dead than red.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 11:32:24 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:23:29 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Interesting that the Bush counties are pictured in Commie Red, don't
you think?
It's not Commie Red anymore. It's Conservative red.
Since it was Conservatives who triumphed over the Commies in the Cold
War, we adopted their color as a sign of victory.
Anyway it's not the same color - Commie Red has more pink in it.
It's the "True Blue" Americans who support liberty and
freedom that seem to be in the minority.
How much "liberty and freedom" do you experience when the Demoncraps
put a gun to your head and steal your money to buy votes?
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "yõwïe" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 03:44:22 PM |
|
|
In <424c0012.1498594@news-server.houston.rr.com>
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB) posted to
[alt.atheism.satire]:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:36:31 +0930, yõwïe <hweh-says@aifind.info>
wrote:
The last thing China wants is more people. <sigh>
Then they need to do something to make it less attractive to leftist
queers.
Why not go the other way? Make Texas accept any and every imigrant - on
the sole condition that they bring their own weapon.
While you are at it, take all the rest of the leftist queers with you.
We are really getting tired of all their whining.
We?
The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy:
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/...
Looks like a half-arsed pisstake thrown together in a couple of hours on
MS Word.
--
"...brainlessness is no hindrance to
finding love and grace in Jesus Christ."
-Pastor Frank
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "DanielSan" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 08:05:40 AM |
|
|
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB) wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:36:31 +0930, yõwïe <hweh-says@aifind.info>
wrote:
The last thing China wants is more people. <sigh>
Then they need to do something to make it less attractive to leftist
queers.
While you are at it, take all the rest of the leftist queers with you.
We are really getting tired of all their whining.
We?
The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy:
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html
That map is created by children for children.
Here is America:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/statecartcollege.png
Or, for even MORE accurate results:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/countycartlinear.png
You can't count Wyoming's less than 1M people as more than Maryland that
has more than 6M people, just because Wyoming is larger. Those above
maps show what America would look like if all the states were resized
approximately according their populations. The second map I gave is the
counties resized according to populations. Wyoming is nearly nonexistant.
Please don't use land-area maps when discussing voting blocs. It's
inaccurate and deceptive.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Elroy Willis" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 10:25:23 AM |
|
|
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Or, for even MORE accurate results:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/countycartlinear.png
It's a fish!
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 12:57:41 PM |
|
|
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:05:40 -0800, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
That map is created by children for children.
It's accruate.
Here is America:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/statecartcollege.png
How Gothic!
Or, for even MORE accurate results:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/countycartlinear.png
Psychadelic!
Please don't use land-area maps when discussing voting blocs. It's
inaccurate and deceptive.
And those freak maps of yours are not. LOL
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
30 Mar 2005 06:38:51 AM |
|
|
Sweet Ol' Bob SOB wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:39:38 +0930, y=F5w=EFe <hweh-says@aifind.info>
wrote:
That is absurd. God cannot do anything that results in a
contradiction.
Ah. So you have a special definition for "omnipotent" then.
Can he make a god that can?
You can answer that yourself.
If the world's largest neo-theocracy wasn't armed to the teeth with
nuclear weapons, we wouldnt be discussing any of this nonsense.
Is that all you see when you look at the US - a bunch of nukes?
Is that all you see when you skim his sentence?
Even if the US Military did not have nukes, the need for ARPA Net
would have still been there. Whether it would have been invented in
the US is a moot point - it would have been invented somewhere.
Just be glad it was the US, or we may not be discussing what your
dull
mind considers "this nonsense".
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
"
.
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
30 Mar 2005 08:22:16 AM |
|
|
On 30 Mar 2005 04:38:51 -0800, wrote:
That is absurd. God cannot do anything that results in a
contradiction.
Ah. So you have a special definition for "omnipotent" then.
No, I do not have any special definition. I define "omnipotent" as the
ability to act in every possible manner. However, any act must be
within the framework of objective reality if it involves objective
reality. IOW, God cannot be expected to act in a way that is
inconsistent with objective reality. What is "Objective Reality"? It
is Being, the Act of Existing.
Existence viewed in an objective manner cannot support contradictions.
You cannot have "A" and "Not-A" at the same time in objective reality.
Therefore God's omnipotence is a manifestation of all the acts that
can be done consistent with objective reality.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
| User: "Jos Flachs" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 03:22:44 AM |
|
|
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:22:16 GMT, (Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB))
wrote:
On 30 Mar 2005 04:38:51 -0800, wrote:
That is absurd. God cannot do anything that results in a
contradiction.
Ah. So you have a special definition for "omnipotent" then.
No, I do not have any special definition. I define "omnipotent" as the
ability to act in every possible manner. However, any act must be
within the framework of objective reality if it involves objective
reality. IOW, God cannot be expected to act in a way that is
inconsistent with objective reality. What is "Objective Reality"? It
is Being, the Act of Existing.
For example:
- Walking on water
- Feeding multitudes with 2 small loaves and a can of tuna
- Sending bears to kill children on orders of a bald man
- Speaking through non-burning burning bushes.
You were saying?
Existence viewed in an objective manner cannot support contradictions.
You cannot have "A" and "Not-A" at the same time in objective reality.
You certainly can, if you have the right faith.
Therefore God's omnipotence is a manifestation of all the acts that
can be done consistent with objective reality.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 07:59:43 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:22:44 +0700, Jos Flachs
<"wcruise"@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
Ah. So you have a special definition for "omnipotent" then.
No, I do not have any special definition. I define "omnipotent" as the
ability to act in every possible manner. However, any act must be
within the framework of objective reality if it involves objective
reality. IOW, God cannot be expected to act in a way that is
inconsistent with objective reality. What is "Objective Reality"? It
is Being, the Act of Existing.
For example:
- Walking on water
- Feeding multitudes with 2 small loaves and a can of tuna
- Sending bears to kill children on orders of a bald man
- Speaking through non-burning burning bushes.
You were saying?
You are too dull to understand what you just said.
None of those things exist in objective reality.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
| User: "DanielSan" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 08:20:09 AM |
|
|
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB) wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:22:44 +0700, Jos Flachs
<"wcruise"@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
Ah. So you have a special definition for "omnipotent" then.
No, I do not have any special definition. I define "omnipotent" as the
ability to act in every possible manner. However, any act must be
within the framework of objective reality if it involves objective
reality. IOW, God cannot be expected to act in a way that is
inconsistent with objective reality. What is "Objective Reality"? It
is Being, the Act of Existing.
For example:
- Walking on water
- Feeding multitudes with 2 small loaves and a can of tuna
- Sending bears to kill children on orders of a bald man
- Speaking through non-burning burning bushes.
You were saying?
You are too dull to understand what you just said.
Ad hominem, again.
None of those things exist in objective reality.
So, according to your previous post, all those things are in the
"subjective world of fantasy"? I agree.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 01:01:36 PM |
|
|
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:20:09 -0800, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
You were saying?
You are too dull to understand what you just said.
Ad hominem, again.
None of those things exist in objective reality.
So, according to your previous post, all those things are in the
"subjective world of fantasy"? I agree.
You are too dull to understand any of this.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 02:22:46 PM |
|
|
Sweet Ol' Bob SOB wrote:
On 30 Mar 2005 04:38:51 -0800, wrote:
That is absurd. God cannot do anything that results in a
contradiction.
Ah. So you have a special definition for "omnipotent" then.
No, I do not have any special definition. I define "omnipotent" as
the
ability to act in every possible manner.
Which is circular. Consider that the problem resides
in the proposed attribute "omnipotent" rather than
in the question about the rock.
However, any act must be
within the framework of objective reality if it involves objective
reality. IOW, God cannot be expected to act in a wa y that is
inconsistent with objective reality.
Really! Well objective reality says that donkeys and
serpents don't talk and the attributes omnipotence
and omniscience are mutually exclusive; that a world
wide flood never happened, that evolution is a fact
(and a theory), that the universe wasn't poofed into
existence by some "god." So I'm a little surprised
that you would invoke such a thing as objective
reality.
What is "Objective Reality"? It
is Being, the Act of Existing.
Oh well that clears that up.
Existence viewed in an objective manner cannot support
contradictions.
Like both knowing the future and being able
to change it?
You cannot have "A" and "Not-A" at the same time in objective
reality.
But your symbols here are not about objective
reality. They are symbols.
Therefore God's omnipotence is a manifestation of all the acts that
can be done consistent with objective reality.
In other words you DO have your own special definition of
omnipotent.
omnipotent (=C3=B2m-n=C3=AEp=CB=9De-tent) adjective
Having unlimited or universal power, authority,
or force; all-powerful. See Usage Note at infinite.
noun
1=2E One having unlimited power or authority:
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
Usage Note: Infinite is sometimes grouped
with absolute terms such as unique, absolute,
and omnipotent, since in its strict mathematical
sense it allows no degree modification or
comparison; one quantity cannot be more infinite
than another (though technically one infinite set
can be larger than another). Unlike other absolute
terms, however, infinite also does not permit
modification by adverbs such as nearly and almost;
mathematically, infinity is not approached by
degrees. In nontechnical usage, of course, infinite
is often used metaphorically to refer simply to an
unimaginably large degree or amount, and here
the comparison of the word is unexceptionable:
Listening to the late quartets on that little
gramophone, I experienced the most infinite
musical joy that I have ever known.
a
.
|
|
|
| User: "Sweet Ol Bob SOB" |
|
| Title: Re: Proof christians are full of crap |
31 Mar 2005 03:17:54 PM |
|
|
On 31 Mar 2005 12:22:46 -0800, wrote:
That is absurd. God cannot do anything that results in a
contradiction.
Ah. So you have a special definition for "omnipotent" then.
No, I do not have any special definition. I define "omnipotent" as
the
ability to act in every possible manner.
Which is circular.
You are circular.
And you are too dull to understand Existential Metaphysics.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

|
Related Articles |
|
|