Religions > Atheism > Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex
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"J. Young" |
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28 Oct 2006 08:37:50 AM |
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Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Anal Sex in Accordance with God's Will
The Vatican, September 29, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com, special report)
By Arlan-Henry Bodway
Are you saving yourself for your wedding night? The Devil wants you to fail,
that's why he puts stumbling blocks in your way. But God wants you to
succeed, and that's why he has given us an alternative to intercourse before
marriage: anal sex. Through anal sex, you can satisfy your body's needs,
while you avoid the risk of unwanted pregnancy and still keep yourself pure
for marriage.
You may be shocked at first by this idea. Isn't anal sex (sodomy) forbidden
by the Bible? Isn't anal sex dirty? What's the difference between having
anal sex before marriage and having regular intercourse? Let's address these
issues by debunking some myths about anal sex and God's will.
"I thought the Bible said anal sex was a sin."
This is a common misconception. Anal sex is confusing to many Christians
because of the attention paid to the Bible's condemnation of homosexual
acts. However, it's important to realize that these often quoted scriptures
refer only to sexual acts between two men. Nowhere does the Bible forbid
anal sex between a male and female.
In fact, many Biblical passages allude to the act of anal sex between men
and women. Lamentations 2:10 describes how "The virgins of Jerusalem have
bowed their heads to the ground," indicating how a virginal maidens should
position themselves to receive anal sex. Another suggestive scripture tells
of a woman's pride in her "valley" (referring to her buttocks and the cleft
between them) and entices her lover to ejaculate against her backside: "How
boastful you are about the valleys! O backsliding daughter who trusts in her
treasures, {saying,} ' Who will come against me?' (Jeremiah 49:4) And in the
Song of Songs, the lover urges his mate to allow him to enter her from
behind: "Draw me after you, let us make haste." (Song of Solomon, 1:4)
"Isn't anal sex dirty?"
The Bible says, "To the pure, all things are pure." (Titus 1:15) The Lord
created your body, and no part of it is imperfect or unclean. God also
created our bodies for pleasure, and anal sex is just one of the many ways,
including standard sexual intercourse, that we can enjoy this pleasure and
share it with a partner.
Although the ***** is used for elimination, in reality it is not as dirty as
you think, especially after a shower or bath. Elimination is also a natural
process of our God-given bodies, so our conception of the anal area as dirty
has more to do with our own psychological hang-ups. If the idea of direct
contact with this area is still distasteful to you, the male can wear a
condom as a barrier
"If you're going to have anal sex, why not just have regular sex?"
This is a good question: If you're going to have sexual contact before
marriage, why not just go the whole nine yards and have regular sex? There
are many good reasons for having anal sex instead. The first reason is
practical: having conventional vaginal intercourse can lead to unwanted
pregnancies. While it's true that the Lord bade us to "be fruitful and
multiply," (Gen 1:22) the Bible also counsels that "For everything there is
a season, and a time for every matter under heaven." (Ecl. 3:1) Pregnancy
outside of wedlock can have dire and life-altering consequences for all
those involved. Having anal sex allows you to greatly reduce this risk.
Second, for a young woman who has never engaged in sexual intercourse,
having anal sex allows her to preserve her virginity (i.e., maintain an
intact hymen) until marriage. There is no greater gift that a bride can give
than to offer her pure, unsullied maidenhead to her husband on their wedding
night.
Finally, anal sex allows both partners to save the most intimate and
powerful sexual act, that of face-to-face vaginal intercourse, for their
mates in marriage. This type of sexual relationship represents the most
powerful union between a man and a woman, and so it rightfully should be
reserved for one's life partner. Fortunately, you can engage in anal sex
prior to marriage and still be able to share the deeper, more meaningful act
of consecrated love through vaginal intercourse with your wedded spouse.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
29 Oct 2006 06:58:13 PM |
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In article <12kag60q948do6c@corp.supernews.com>, SaPeIsMa
<SaPeIsMa@hotmail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:281020062205270801%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <12k8cdha8kj7a7b@corp.supernews.com>, SaPeIsMa
<SaPeIsMa@hotmail.com> wrote:
Once again, I NEVER made ANY claim of following ANY religion
Right - you have gutlessly failed to say almost anything.
Why should I When
When there's a moron like you trying to put words in my mouth...
I just enjoy watching you flail about spouting absolute nonsense.
<SLAP> Because you jumped in and found yourself over your head. Now
run off. You are of no interest.
LOL
Fuckwit barnes is stumped with his own lies..
And feel free to try doing that in the real world, little boy
You are the coward that can't even tell us what you believe.
I can, but I chose NOT to since it was NOT germane tot the debate
A one sided conversation is far from a "debate."
That has nothing to do with cowardice
Apparently your conviction to your ideas is as shallow as you comments.
That you need to think so, shows a great deal about YOUR issues
No, it demonstrates that you are dishonest. Quit whining about how I
don't know this or that if you have such little confidence.
Bottom line is that you need to project all kinds of ***** on me to
justify your nonsense is not my problem.
The bottom line is that you are a coward. Big Deal.
I'll
<SLAP> BoredŠ
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| User: "SaPeIsMa" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
29 Oct 2006 09:18:30 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:291020061658134212%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <12kag60q948do6c@corp.supernews.com>, SaPeIsMa
<SaPeIsMa@hotmail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:281020062205270801%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <12k8cdha8kj7a7b@corp.supernews.com>, SaPeIsMa
<SaPeIsMa@hotmail.com> wrote:
Once again, I NEVER made ANY claim of following ANY religion
Right - you have gutlessly failed to say almost anything.
Why should I When
When there's a moron like you trying to put words in my mouth...
I just enjoy watching you flail about spouting absolute nonsense.
<SLAP> Because you jumped in and found yourself over your head.
Now
run off. You are of no interest.
LOL
Fuckwit barnes is stumped with his own lies..
And feel free to try doing that in the real world, little boy
You are the coward that can't even tell us what you believe.
I can, but I chose NOT to since it was NOT germane tot the debate
A one sided conversation is far from a "debate."
You are so right
You don't know how to debate
You believe that making unfounded claims based on your silly presumptinos
are "arguments'
That has nothing to do with cowardice
Apparently your conviction to your ideas is as shallow as you comments.
And apparently you think making stupid accusations is the height of wit...
In fact, it's more like pure twit.
That you need to think so, shows a great deal about YOUR issues
No, it demonstrates that you are dishonest. Quit whining about how I
don't know this or that if you have such little confidence.
Bottom line is that you need to project all kinds of ***** on me to
justify your nonsense is not my problem.
The bottom line is that you are a coward. Big Deal.
See
More projection on your part....
II'll leave you to your manure pile
One has a better chance of teaching a pig to sing that trying to debate
with
a moron like you
<SLAP> BoredS
Oh look
More virtual assault
But I must have hit a nerve, otherwise why cut it out...
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| User: "Sylvia R. Dickinson" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
30 Oct 2006 05:43:58 AM |
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SaPeIsMa wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:281020060804411564%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <MPG.1fad2eb0be4f3170989902@news.motzarella.org>, Jason
<jasonperry@aol.com> wrote:
Andrealphus said:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors,
and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
Why do you hate the words of God? Our entire legal system is based on
the
Holy Scripture.
You are dreaming. This country, and its laws, and not founding on such
fantasy or superstition. The real question is, "Why are the religious
so ignorant?"
Now there's another stupid generalisation
You project the behavior of an ignorant fanatic on everyone else.
There are many relgious people who are far more intelligent and educated
than you.
If that were the case, sir or madam, then the believer wouldn't need to
cling on to religion to live their life independently, intellectually,
and spiritually. Albeit, I have seen what you might consider "a
miracle" when an acquaintence of mine surrendered himself to religion
and became legitimately sober. I thought it was his faith (and inner
strength) which had "saved" him.
I realized that nothing had really changed, though he's no longer an
alcoholic--he fell into the trap of religion where he allowed his life
to be dictated by religion, he "preached" to others how they may live
attributing it to his "rebirth," thus repeating the same supression and
***** behavior which got him in trouble to begin with.
When one relies on one thing to get off another the circle of
dependency never breaks.
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| User: "Iain" |
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29 Oct 2006 12:27:57 PM |
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Jason wrote:
Andrealphus said:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
Why do you hate the words of God? Our entire legal system is based on the
Holy Scripture.
WHOSE legal system???
~Iain
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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28 Oct 2006 05:36:02 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:09:39 -0400 Jason <jasonperry@aol.com> said
the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of 1,000
Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...
Andrealphus said:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
Why do you hate the words of God? Our entire legal system is based on the
Holy Scripture.
Wrong. Our (US) legal system is based on the concepts first enshrined
in English common law.
But I'll give you a chance. Show me wherte in the Bible the concepts
of trial by jury, habeus corpus, innocent until proven guilty, etc,
are written down explicitly.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 08:49:51 PM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:09:39 -0400 Jason <jasonperry@aol.com> said
the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of 1,000
Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...
Andrealphus said:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
Why do you hate the words of God? Our entire legal system is based on the
Holy Scripture.
Wrong. Our (US) legal system is based on the concepts first enshrined
in English common law.
But I'll give you a chance. Show me where in the Bible the concepts
of trial by jury, habeus corpus, innocent until proven guilty, etc,
are written down explicitly.
NY Times Book of the Eons List:
The Hebrew Bible is the holy text of most abrahamic religions. It
records many events and laws that are endorsed or prescribed by Yahweh
or carried out by certain people. Judaism teaches that the Torah
contains 613 eternal commandments, many of which deal with law and
punishment, on the personal, national and global scales. Christianity
has also adapted and adopted many of these directives. To illustrate
Yahweh's power, the text openly records what befell nations or
individuals as lessons.
Examples of the death penalty
The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities
Violating the Sabbath (by working, for example, see Exodus 31:14).
Men having sex with men, animals, or someone else's wife (Leviticus 20)
Rape (Deuteronomy 22)
Worshipping other gods (Deuteronomy 13:6-13:10)
Voting against US aid to Israel (Bush/Cheney 1:20: 2001) Saturday
Sabbath.[Genesis] 2:1-3
Cannibalism OK
2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her,
'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him."
"Er frest vi a ferd "- He eats like a horse "es/essen" - eat
Getting stoned was OK
JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his head and cracked his skull.
Hurriedly he called to his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me,
so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his servant ran him
through, and he died."
Virgins OK for Jews to pork: Not for Muslims. They must die first.
NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty.
Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
No boys left for GOP Pedophiles:
Numbers 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept
with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept
with a man.
New International Version
"The terror of God was upon the cities that were round about them."
Genesis 35
Oy Vey ! God said, 'I will obliterate humanity that I have created from
the face of the earth - man, livestock, land animals, and birds of the
sky. I regret that I created them.'
GOP two favorite passages
Shalom:
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an
inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes."
U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact "a dank" -
thanks, thank you
http://www.wrmea.com/us_aid_to_israel/index.htm
JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand of Israel, ...utterly
destroying them; there was none left that breathed ...."
JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord, pulls down the pillars
of the Philistine house and causes his own death and that of 3000 other
men and women
(A Non Union 9-11 type job)
http://www.geocities.com/closetatheist/dmatrocities.htm
Cruelty and Violence in the Bible -- A "broch!" - Oh hell! Damn it!
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
Du bis a Yid? Gey gezunt! - Are you Jewish? Go in good health!
Genug iz genug! - Enough is enough! Farshtaist? - You understand?
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "ScottyFLL" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 05:38:02 PM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
But I'll give you a chance. Show me wherte in the Bible the concepts
of trial by jury, habeus corpus, innocent until proven guilty, etc,
are written down explicitly.
--
Don't forget "separation of church and state".
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| User: "IAAH" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 09:21:33 AM |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:09:39 -0400, Jason <jasonperry@aol.com> wrote
in message <MPG.1fad2eb0be4f3170989902@news.motzarella.org>:
Andrealphus said:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
Why do you hate the words of God? Our entire legal system is based on the
Holy Scripture.
No, it's not. Besides, the whole thread is now a reply to a forger.
Give it a rest.
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| User: "David Johnston" |
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28 Oct 2006 01:38:42 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:09:39 -0400, Jason <jasonperry@aol.com> wrote:
Andrealphus said:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
Why do you hate the words of God? Our entire legal system is based on the
Holy Scripture.
Mine isn't. It's based on English Common Law which was in no way
based on Holy Scripture, but simply evolved over centuries of
villagers and townsfolk making rules for how to get along and how to
deal with those who don't. If it was based on scripture then
prostitution would have been a death penalty offense, and it wasn't,
even when petty theft was.
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| User: "osprey" |
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28 Oct 2006 09:17:30 AM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more than
total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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28 Oct 2006 01:58:56 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more than
total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
That claim might win an award for the most inept attempt at trolling, Mister
Heishman.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 2, Hamilton 1 (October 27)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 28 vs. Peoria, 7:35
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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28 Oct 2006 09:19:08 AM |
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In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more
than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl. I've
also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced to stammering.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "osprey" |
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28 Oct 2006 09:56:49 AM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more
than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl. I've
also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced to stammering.
Doubtful. I have seen those debates and watched the atheist fume
because once they realized they can't understand scripture the greek
language as well as hebrew, and symbolism...they lose their
argument...EVERY SINGLE TIME..:o)
the atheist can't debate a scholarly theologist...period.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 11:26:19 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1162047409.755475.278230@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I have seen those debates and watched the atheist fume
because once they realized they can't understand scripture the greek
language as well as hebrew, and symbolism...they lose their
argument.
So the Bible is the inerrant literal truth of God, except when it
contradicts itself or posits an impossibility...then it's symbolism.
More logical contortions from Christians...you guys oughta be in the circus.
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| User: "SaPeIsMa" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 03:11:51 PM |
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"Geoff" <geoff@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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I have seen those debates and watched the atheist fume
because once they realized they can't understand scripture the greek
language as well as hebrew, and symbolism...they lose their
argument.
So the Bible is the inerrant literal truth of God, except when it
contradicts itself or posits an impossibility...then it's symbolism.
More logical contortions from Christians...you guys oughta be in the
circus.
Why ?
We have clowns like you to entertain us here.
It's always amusing to see the so-called atheists act like the most
intolerant religious fanatics and make the claim that the Bible should be
taken to the letter.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
29 Oct 2006 09:34:33 AM |
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"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:12k7eo3pfvcvcf3@corp.supernews.com...
"Geoff" <geoff@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:O4KdnW6Zkfo2Gd7YnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com...
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1162047409.755475.278230@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I have seen those debates and watched the atheist fume
because once they realized they can't understand scripture the greek
language as well as hebrew, and symbolism...they lose their
argument.
So the Bible is the inerrant literal truth of God, except when it
contradicts itself or posits an impossibility...then it's symbolism.
More logical contortions from Christians...you guys oughta be in the
circus.
Why ?
We have clowns like you to entertain us here.
Hahahaha...you debate like a 5-year-old.
It's always amusing to see the so-called atheists act like the most
intolerant religious fanatics and make the claim that the Bible should be
taken to the letter.
The Bible is literal, the Bible is not. When no one can agree, how can we
possibly take you seriously?
I'll tell you this though: all atheists agree that the stories in the Bible
are basically mythological.
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 11:27:10 AM |
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In News O4KdnW6Zkfo2Gd7YnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com,, Geoff at
geoff@nospam.com, typed this:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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I have seen those debates and watched the atheist fume
because once they realized they can't understand scripture the greek
language as well as hebrew, and symbolism...they lose their
argument.
So the Bible is the inerrant literal truth of God, except when it
contradicts itself or posits an impossibility...then it's symbolism.
More logical contortions from Christians...you guys oughta be in the
circus.
LOL! Agreed.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 10:42:47 AM |
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In News 1162047409.755475.278230@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young
at jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those
so called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing
more than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the
atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl.
I've also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced
to stammering.
Doubtful.
Well, when you're done doubting, come back and we'll discuss it.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 11:41:10 AM |
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In article <1162047409.755475.278230@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
the atheist can't debate a scholarly theologist...period.
"Your statement is to be considered a lie until you
can prove it to be true."
"osprey" in <1161104485.981302.246...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 01:10:54 PM |
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On 28 Oct 2006 07:56:49 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more
than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl. I've
also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced to stammering.
Doubtful. I have seen those debates and watched the atheist fume
because once they realized they can't understand scripture the greek
language as well as hebrew, and symbolism...they lose their
argument...EVERY SINGLE TIME..:o)
the atheist can't debate a scholarly theologist...period.
I'll be happy to take on *any* theologist on the topic of reconciling
the Gospel accounts of the Resurrection. Any takers?
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "ScottyFLL" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 01:29:59 PM |
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raven1 wrote:
I'll be happy to take on *any* theologist on the topic of reconciling
the Gospel accounts of the Resurrection. Any takers?
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(Oh I hope so! I wanna watch!)
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 03:46:44 PM |
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On 28 Oct 2006 11:29:59 -0700, "ScottyFLL" <ScottyFLL@gmail.com>
wrote:
raven1 wrote:
I'll be happy to take on *any* theologist on the topic of reconciling
the Gospel accounts of the Resurrection. Any takers?
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(Oh I hope so! I wanna watch!)
Oh, also, just in passing, the word Osprey is looking for is
"theologian", not "theologist" in the first place.
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 03:49:56 PM |
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raven1 wrote:
On 28 Oct 2006 11:29:59 -0700, "ScottyFLL" <ScottyFLL@gmail.com>
wrote:
raven1 wrote:
I'll be happy to take on *any* theologist on the topic of reconciling
the Gospel accounts of the Resurrection. Any takers?
--
(Oh I hope so! I wanna watch!)
Oh, also, just in passing, the word Osprey is looking for is
"theologian", not "theologist" in the first place.
No, I got it right.
http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/THEOLOGIST
Noun: theologist
Someone who is learned in theology or who speculates about theology
Both terms can apply though.
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| User: "ScottyFLL" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 03:59:51 PM |
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raven1 wrote:
Oh, also, just in passing, the word Osprey is looking for is
"theologian", not "theologist" in the first place.
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Yeah, I know. I posted something earlier and I used the word
"theologian" in response to osprey's "theologist". Was wondering if it
would be noticed...
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 10:46:23 AM |
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On 28 Oct 2006 07:56:49 -0700, in alt.atheism
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in
<1162047409.755475.278230@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more
than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl. I've
also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced to stammering.
Doubtful. I have seen those debates and watched the atheist fume
because once they realized they can't understand scripture the greek
language as well as hebrew, and symbolism...they lose their
argument...EVERY SINGLE TIME..:o)
the atheist can't debate a scholarly theologist...period.
More wishful thinking from you. Why have you chosen to remain ignorant?
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| User: "Jesus Hates Disbelievers" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 11:18:41 AM |
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Free Lunch said:
the atheist can't debate a scholarly theologist...period.
More wishful thinking from you. Why have you chosen to remain ignorant?
I always win theological debates because I have my invisible, imaginary
friend who lives in the sky on my side!
See you in Church!
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| User: "ScottyFLL" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 08:56:52 PM |
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osprey wrote:
Doubtful. I have seen those debates and watched the atheist fume
because once they realized they can't understand scripture the greek
language as well as hebrew, and symbolism...they lose their
argument...EVERY SINGLE TIME..:o)
I'd LOVE to see this, or at least read a transcript! Please provide us
with a link! Thanks!
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 09:12:39 PM |
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"ScottyFLL" <ScottyFLL@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162087012.282279.163050@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
osprey wrote:
Doubtful. I have seen those debates and watched the atheist fume
because once they realized they can't understand scripture the greek
language as well as hebrew, and symbolism...they lose their
argument...EVERY SINGLE TIME..:o)
I'd LOVE to see this, or at least read a transcript! Please provide us
with a link! Thanks!
Please provide me with evidence you are a mature adult. From previous
postings, the evidence is mounting you are nothing but a child.
Oh, by the way, I asked you three questions that you still haven't answered.
Do you consider yourself intelligent?
Do you think you base your observations and opinions from reasoning and
using logic?
Do you base your conclusions on facts?
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 09:13:36 PM |
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In News POKdnUy0xfSNk9nYnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"ScottyFLL" <ScottyFLL@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162087012.282279.163050@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
osprey wrote:
Doubtful. I have seen those debates and watched the atheist fume
because once they realized they can't understand scripture the greek
language as well as hebrew, and symbolism...they lose their
argument...EVERY SINGLE TIME..:o)
I'd LOVE to see this, or at least read a transcript! Please provide
us with a link! Thanks!
Please provide me with evidence you are a mature adult.
And there he goes again folks! Nothing but sputter, just like I predicted.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 09:25:12 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL13@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:k7U0h.777$LI4.759@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News POKdnUy0xfSNk9nYnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"ScottyFLL" <ScottyFLL@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162087012.282279.163050@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
osprey wrote:
Doubtful. I have seen those debates and watched the atheist fume
because once they realized they can't understand scripture the greek
language as well as hebrew, and symbolism...they lose their
argument...EVERY SINGLE TIME..:o)
I'd LOVE to see this, or at least read a transcript! Please provide
us with a link! Thanks!
Please provide me with evidence you are a mature adult.
And there he goes again folks! Nothing but sputter, just like I
predicted.
I think most already understand you are a child. But, let me ask you the
same three questions that you will most likely avoid answering.
Do you consider yourself intelligent?
Do you base your opinions on reasoning and logic?
Do you base your conclusions on facts?
You can answer the questions or you can "sputter", just like I am predicting
you will do.
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