Religions > Atheism > Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex
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"J. Young" |
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28 Oct 2006 08:37:50 AM |
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Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Anal Sex in Accordance with God's Will
The Vatican, September 29, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com, special report)
By Arlan-Henry Bodway
Are you saving yourself for your wedding night? The Devil wants you to fail,
that's why he puts stumbling blocks in your way. But God wants you to
succeed, and that's why he has given us an alternative to intercourse before
marriage: anal sex. Through anal sex, you can satisfy your body's needs,
while you avoid the risk of unwanted pregnancy and still keep yourself pure
for marriage.
You may be shocked at first by this idea. Isn't anal sex (sodomy) forbidden
by the Bible? Isn't anal sex dirty? What's the difference between having
anal sex before marriage and having regular intercourse? Let's address these
issues by debunking some myths about anal sex and God's will.
"I thought the Bible said anal sex was a sin."
This is a common misconception. Anal sex is confusing to many Christians
because of the attention paid to the Bible's condemnation of homosexual
acts. However, it's important to realize that these often quoted scriptures
refer only to sexual acts between two men. Nowhere does the Bible forbid
anal sex between a male and female.
In fact, many Biblical passages allude to the act of anal sex between men
and women. Lamentations 2:10 describes how "The virgins of Jerusalem have
bowed their heads to the ground," indicating how a virginal maidens should
position themselves to receive anal sex. Another suggestive scripture tells
of a woman's pride in her "valley" (referring to her buttocks and the cleft
between them) and entices her lover to ejaculate against her backside: "How
boastful you are about the valleys! O backsliding daughter who trusts in her
treasures, {saying,} ' Who will come against me?' (Jeremiah 49:4) And in the
Song of Songs, the lover urges his mate to allow him to enter her from
behind: "Draw me after you, let us make haste." (Song of Solomon, 1:4)
"Isn't anal sex dirty?"
The Bible says, "To the pure, all things are pure." (Titus 1:15) The Lord
created your body, and no part of it is imperfect or unclean. God also
created our bodies for pleasure, and anal sex is just one of the many ways,
including standard sexual intercourse, that we can enjoy this pleasure and
share it with a partner.
Although the ***** is used for elimination, in reality it is not as dirty as
you think, especially after a shower or bath. Elimination is also a natural
process of our God-given bodies, so our conception of the anal area as dirty
has more to do with our own psychological hang-ups. If the idea of direct
contact with this area is still distasteful to you, the male can wear a
condom as a barrier
"If you're going to have anal sex, why not just have regular sex?"
This is a good question: If you're going to have sexual contact before
marriage, why not just go the whole nine yards and have regular sex? There
are many good reasons for having anal sex instead. The first reason is
practical: having conventional vaginal intercourse can lead to unwanted
pregnancies. While it's true that the Lord bade us to "be fruitful and
multiply," (Gen 1:22) the Bible also counsels that "For everything there is
a season, and a time for every matter under heaven." (Ecl. 3:1) Pregnancy
outside of wedlock can have dire and life-altering consequences for all
those involved. Having anal sex allows you to greatly reduce this risk.
Second, for a young woman who has never engaged in sexual intercourse,
having anal sex allows her to preserve her virginity (i.e., maintain an
intact hymen) until marriage. There is no greater gift that a bride can give
than to offer her pure, unsullied maidenhead to her husband on their wedding
night.
Finally, anal sex allows both partners to save the most intimate and
powerful sexual act, that of face-to-face vaginal intercourse, for their
mates in marriage. This type of sexual relationship represents the most
powerful union between a man and a woman, and so it rightfully should be
reserved for one's life partner. Fortunately, you can engage in anal sex
prior to marriage and still be able to share the deeper, more meaningful act
of consecrated love through vaginal intercourse with your wedded spouse.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 05:54:13 PM |
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In News 1162074965.040347.273430@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com,, ScottyFLL at
ScottyFLL@gmail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
The Bat is not a fowl.
Oh. Then I guess I WON'T be whipping up a bat-egg omelet after all.
Damn.
Perhaps I can instead chew some cud with some local bunny rabbits.
Umm... probably not. Perhaps you can get some at Denny's from their Grand
Slam Bunny Cud Menu though, as long as you're not black.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 02:35:43 PM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
osprey at
Andrealphus wrote:
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
at jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those
so called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing
more than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the
atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl.
I've also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced
to stammering.
ESSAY WITH ENDNOTES:
THE HYRAX
Yawn...
And that's how the atheist reacted when they got their asses handed to
them on the issues.
How often do you go to church, *****?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 10:45:46 AM |
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In News 1162047529.594909.283740@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young
at jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those
so called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing
more than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the
atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl.
I've also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced
to stammering.
ESSAY WITH ENDNOTES:
THE HYRAX CHEWS THE CUD!
"The hyrax is so unlike other animals that it is placed in a separate order
(Hyracoidea) by itself. It is said to be the elephant's nearest living
relative. This is true to a certain extent, but misleading since the
relationship stems from a remote ancestor common to hyraxes, sea cows
(dugongs and manatees) and elephants. These three are unlike other mammals,
but they share various if disproportionate physiological similarities in
teeth, leg and foot bones, testes (that do not descend into a scrotum) and
other more obscure details. "
The Hyrax, in other words, is not really a rabbit.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 01:31:53 PM |
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In News 1162047529.594909.283740@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young
at jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those
so called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing
more than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the
atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl.
I've also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced
to stammering.
ESSAY WITH ENDNOTES:
THE HYRAX CHEWS THE CUD! THE BIBLE'S CRITICS HAVE BEEN OVERTURNED
AGAIN! DOES THE HARE CHEW THE CUD ALSO? THERE IS EVIDENCE POINTING TO
HARE CUD CHEWING ALSO!
It would appear that your article in in error as well. Neither the Hyrax,
nor the Rabbit chews its cud.
http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1995/2/2chew95.html
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 01:43:13 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162047529.594909.283740@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young
at jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those
so called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing
more than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the
atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl.
I've also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced
to stammering.
ESSAY WITH ENDNOTES:
THE HYRAX CHEWS THE CUD! THE BIBLE'S CRITICS HAVE BEEN OVERTURNED
AGAIN! DOES THE HARE CHEW THE CUD ALSO? THERE IS EVIDENCE POINTING TO
HARE CUD CHEWING ALSO!
It would appear that your article in in error as well. Neither the Hyrax,
nor the Rabbit chews its cud.
http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1995/2/2chew95.html
You have been provided the rebuttal as to why your argument is flawed,
you can't really come up with any other answer.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 01:49:44 PM |
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In News 1162060993.385441.45930@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162047529.594909.283740@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young
at jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these
so called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and
those so called contradictions and errors were found out to be
nothing more than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on
the atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl.
I've also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced
to stammering.
ESSAY WITH ENDNOTES:
THE HYRAX CHEWS THE CUD! THE BIBLE'S CRITICS HAVE BEEN OVERTURNED
AGAIN! DOES THE HARE CHEW THE CUD ALSO? THERE IS EVIDENCE POINTING
TO HARE CUD CHEWING ALSO!
It would appear that your article in in error as well. Neither the
Hyrax, nor the Rabbit chews its cud.
http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1995/2/2chew95.html
You have been provided the rebuttal as to why your argument is flawed,
you can't really come up with any other answer.
And you have been shown the proof of how the Bible is in error. Your
rebuttal is flawed and erroneous.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 02:35:24 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162060993.385441.45930@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162047529.594909.283740@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young
at jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these
so called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and
those so called contradictions and errors were found out to be
nothing more than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on
the atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl.
I've also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced
to stammering.
ESSAY WITH ENDNOTES:
THE HYRAX CHEWS THE CUD! THE BIBLE'S CRITICS HAVE BEEN OVERTURNED
AGAIN! DOES THE HARE CHEW THE CUD ALSO? THERE IS EVIDENCE POINTING
TO HARE CUD CHEWING ALSO!
It would appear that your article in in error as well. Neither the
Hyrax, nor the Rabbit chews its cud.
http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1995/2/2chew95.html
You have been provided the rebuttal as to why your argument is flawed,
you can't really come up with any other answer.
And you have been shown the proof of how the Bible is in error. Your
rebuttal is flawed and erroneous.
Nope, you are simply acting like all atheist do. DENIAL.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 02:39:40 PM |
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In News 1162064124.670220.212290@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162060993.385441.45930@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162047529.594909.283740@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J.
Young at jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions
and errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of
these so called contradictions and errors with educated
theologist and those so called contradictions and errors were
found out to be nothing more than total misunderstanding or
lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as
fowl. I've also seen these debates and have seen the theologists
reduced to stammering.
ESSAY WITH ENDNOTES:
THE HYRAX CHEWS THE CUD! THE BIBLE'S CRITICS HAVE BEEN OVERTURNED
AGAIN! DOES THE HARE CHEW THE CUD ALSO? THERE IS EVIDENCE POINTING
TO HARE CUD CHEWING ALSO!
It would appear that your article in in error as well. Neither the
Hyrax, nor the Rabbit chews its cud.
http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1995/2/2chew95.html
You have been provided the rebuttal as to why your argument is
flawed, you can't really come up with any other answer.
And you have been shown the proof of how the Bible is in error. Your
rebuttal is flawed and erroneous.
Nope,
Yep.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 03:46:22 PM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Nope, you are simply acting like all atheist do. DENIAL.
You are acting like most religious bigots: arrogant, self-righteous,
stupid, and dishonest.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 01:54:57 PM |
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In article <1162060993.385441.45930@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162047529.594909.283740@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,, osprey at
noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
osprey at noneedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young
at jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and
errors, and is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those
so called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing
more than total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the
atheist part.
Yeah, like rabbits chewing their cuds, and bats identified as fowl.
I've also seen these debates and have seen the theologists reduced
to stammering.
ESSAY WITH ENDNOTES:
THE HYRAX CHEWS THE CUD! THE BIBLE'S CRITICS HAVE BEEN OVERTURNED
AGAIN! DOES THE HARE CHEW THE CUD ALSO? THERE IS EVIDENCE POINTING TO
HARE CUD CHEWING ALSO!
It would appear that your article in in error as well. Neither the Hyrax,
nor the Rabbit chews its cud.
http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1995/2/2chew95.html
You have been provided the rebuttal as to why your argument is flawed
you are blatantly lying again.
proof of your "error" is still included above.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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28 Oct 2006 11:40:08 AM |
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In article <1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more than
total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
"Your statement is to be considered a lie until you
can prove it to be true."
"osprey" in <1161104485.981302.246...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 10:04:40 AM |
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In article <1162045049.961342.160880@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more than
total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
Total *****.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 01:09:35 PM |
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On 28 Oct 2006 07:17:30 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more than
total cognitive dissonance or Orwellian Doublethink on the theologist's part.
Spelling corrected.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 01:42:23 PM |
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raven1 wrote:
On 28 Oct 2006 07:17:30 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more than
total cognitive dissonance or Orwellian Doublethink on the theologist's part.
Spelling corrected.
Forgery noted
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 10:17:57 PM |
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On 28 Oct 2006 11:42:23 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
raven1 wrote:
On 28 Oct 2006 07:17:30 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more than
total cognitive dissonance or Orwellian Doublethink on the theologist's part.
Spelling corrected.
Forgery noted
Point whizzing over your head noted.
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Ozzy Murphy" |
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| Title: Re: Proof In The Holy Scripture: The Bible Permits and Encourages Anal Sex |
28 Oct 2006 10:04:45 AM |
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osprey is another stupid God hating Lefty Athiest who will one day burn in
Hell for his hatred of The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost.
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| User: "ScottyFLL" |
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28 Oct 2006 03:44:42 PM |
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osprey wrote:
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more than
total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
That "total misunderstanding" is that we (not just atheists, mind you
-- a person can believe in a higher power and even a creative force
without subscribing to the dogma of any particular monotheistic
religion) don't "understand" how fantasy can be used in logic to arrive
at a valid conclusion.
That which you call "lack of knowledge" is again our inability to
"know" that fantasy is a better indicator of truth than fact is.
You've defined "total misunderstanding" and "lack of knowledge" in some
very interesting ways.
They don't fly. Go back to school, learn some logic, get back to us if
and when you pass the course.
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| User: "osprey" |
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28 Oct 2006 03:47:13 PM |
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ScottyFLL wrote:
osprey wrote:
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more than
total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
That "total misunderstanding" is that we (not just atheists, mind you
-- a person can believe in a higher power and even a creative force
without subscribing to the dogma of any particular monotheistic
religion)
I absolutely agree with you, that a person can indeed believe in a
higher power without subscribing to any particular religion or the
bible.
don't "understand" how fantasy can be used in logic to arrive
at a valid conclusion.
That which you call "lack of knowledge" is again our inability to
"know" that fantasy is a better indicator of truth than fact is.
You've defined "total misunderstanding" and "lack of knowledge" in some
very interesting ways.
They don't fly. Go back to school, learn some logic, get back to us if
and when you pass the course.
I guess it makes you feel better about yourself to act that way. Oh
well..life will go on..:o)
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| User: "Ash" |
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28 Oct 2006 02:53:00 PM |
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osprey wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org,, J. Young at
jayyoung@bible.org, typed this:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
Everyone also knows that the Bible is full of contradictions and errors, and
is irrelevant to the civil issues in any case.
And I have seen some of the toughest atheist debate some of these so
called contradictions and errors with educated theologist and those so
called contradictions and errors were found out to be nothing more than
total misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on the atheist part.
Which usually involve the theist arguing along the lines of "That's not
a contradiction because there aren't any"
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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28 Oct 2006 01:27:09 PM |
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J. Young <jayyoung@bible.org> wrote:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
It's proven that the Bible DOES lie, just like you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "J Young" |
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28 Oct 2006 02:58:49 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4543a0fd$0$34543$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J. Young <jayyoung@bible.org> wrote:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
It's proven that the Bible DOES lie, just like you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
Responding to forgeries now?
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| User: "Elkestra" |
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28 Oct 2006 04:44:38 PM |
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At the risk of embroiling myself on this chaos (too late I hear the
omens cry), this and other threads have come down to a few simple
things...
a) 'Faith' ignores reason, however much it is backed up.
b) An unproven, non-physical, undetectable, ethereal entity acts as a
better security blanket for some people than any proven fact.
c) That some people insist certain literature (i.e. Religious) has to
be the 100% truth - even when there are those of religious stature who
accept that because of the way the religious text were written, much of
it might be allegorical, not a diary of actual events.
d) We'll never agree.
e) I'm going back to my Tarot cards *grins*
Yours,
Ann-Marie
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| User: "Elkestra" |
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28 Oct 2006 04:58:18 PM |
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At the risk of embroiling myself on this chaos (too late I hear the
omens cry), this and other threads have come down to a few simple
things...
a) 'Faith' ignores reason, however much it is backed up.
b) An unproven, non-physical, undetectable, ethereal entity acts as a
better security blanket for some people than any proven fact.
c) That some people insist certain literature (i.e. Religious) has to
be the 100% truth - even when there are those of religious stature who
accept that because of the way the religious text were written, much of
it might be allegorical, not a diary of actual events.
d) We'll never agree.
e) I'm going back to my Tarot cards *grins*
Yours,
Ann-Marie
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| User: "George Gabba" |
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28 Oct 2006 04:38:10 PM |
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J Young said:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4543a0fd$0$34543$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J. Young <jayyoung@bible.org> wrote:
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
It's proven that the Bible DOES lie, just like you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
Responding to forgeries now?
Proving again that you're a lying Chirstofascist *****, I see!
Poster: J. Young isn't even using an identical name, yet
an identical email address to you.
Doesn't your phantom God torture liars like you in that imaginary place
called Hell?
Here's a list of your religio-pedophile brethren who are like you, obsessed
with a non-existent God, homosexuals and have a taste for fucking children.
Lifesite News Silent As Even More Pedophile Clergy Exposed -
Why Do
They Condone The Rape Of Children?
Marty A. Hynes, 33, is charged with eight counts of criminal sexual
contact of a
minor, three counts of criminal sexual penetration of a minor and one
count of
attempted criminal sexual contact of a minor. Hynes was a youth pastor
at the
First Assembly of God church when the alleged incidents occurred,
between July
and December 2001. (Las Cruces Sun-News, March 24, 2003)
Trial of former youth pastor begins
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Dayton, OH. A Trotwood minister, whose lawyer said he has been a "sex
addict"
since age 10, sought treatment rather than face trial in a Brookville
police-run
Internet sting that presented a virtual 14-year-old boy in a chat room.
But a
Montgomery County judge denied his plea for treatment Tuesday. Turner's
attorney, Dwight Brannon, wrote "He had his first sexual experience
with another
male at the age of 19 while in college. Shortly after he began surfing
the Web .
. his addiction slowly began to grow." Turner had been pastor of
Anchor
Community Church, 38 S. Fairgreen Drive, for seven years when he was
arrested
last summer. (Dayton Daily News, 01.29.2003)
Minister arrested in police-run Internet sting
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Riviera Beach, FL. A prominent minister, his church and deacon have
reached a
$600,000 settlement with a mentally disabled man who accused the
minister of
rape. The Rev. Thomas Masters, pastor of the New Macedonia Church of
Riviera
Beach, and Church Mutual, insurer for the church, negotiated the
settlement with
the man, according to his attorneys and court papers filed Monday. The
man, who
has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old, attended New Macedonia and
accused
Masters of coercing him to smoke crack cocaine and then raping him
twice on
church property over Thanksgiving weekend in 1991. (The Palm Beach
Post, January
14, 2003)
West Palm Beach minister, church pay $600,000
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Anaheim, CA. Anaheim pastor admitted Monday he fondled two teen-age
girls 18
years ago while working as a part-time counselor at a Colorado church a
decade
before he was assigned to an Orange County church. "I was acting like an
irresponsible teen-ager. There's no excuse for what I did," the Rev.
Greg Tucker
of Anaheim First Church of the Nazarene told The Orange County
Register. The
church settled lawsuits by two women, who said Tucker, then 22,
molested them
when they were 16. A Colorado jury sided with the women in a civil
trial,
ordering Tucker to pay the two $70,000. Tucker said he never told
church leaders
about the indiscretions before his ordination in Southern California
seven years
ago. In Colorado, sexual relations with a teen-ager were not considered
criminal
then, which led the women to sue for civil damages. The former youth
pastor is
now a senior pastor in a Nazarene Church in Anaheim, CA. The Nazarene
General
Superintendent's remarks about the case were very telling, i.e. "This
happened a
long time ago. . .the man has 'grown' since then. . . isn't the
Christian faith
all about forgiveness. . ."(North County Times, April 17, 2002)
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A Christian pastor in Indonesia was sentenced to four years
imprisonment for
sexually abusing seven refugee children under his care, officials said
Tuesday.
Saderah Sudiro, a Protestant clergyman with the Foundation For the
Village Bible
Society, was found guilty Monday of molesting refugee children ages 14
and 15 in
his house in Solo in Central Java, said prosecutor Ika Ria Wati. "For
more than
a year he abused the minors who sought refuge in his foundation," said
Wati.
(Associated Press, April 30, 2002)
pastor gets four years for molesting refugee children
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CHELSEA, VT. Pastor faces trial or stiffer sentence for child
molestation. A
judge on Tuesday denied a plea agreement for a former Newbury pastor
accused of
child molestation. The decision means Rev. Joseph A. Rinaldi may go to
trial or
receive a stiffer sentence on charges of molesting children while he
was pastor
of the Newbury Bible Church and principal of the Newbury Christian
School
between 1993 and 1998. ``The crimes you committed are heinous crimes,''
said
Vermont District Court Judge Amy Davenport. ``They are crimes that have
left
long lasting scars on their victims. And it is because of that, in the
court's
view, the court cannot accept the plea agreement.'' Rinaldi had pleaded
guilty
to five counts of lewd and lascivious conduct with a child in exchange
for a
prison sentence of two years. He admitted fondling three boys in his
care. (The
Associated Press, December 03, 2002)
http://www.caledonianrecord.com/pages/top_news/story/beec6c67c
Newbury Pastor Pleads Innocent To Molestation
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| User: "MyName" |
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28 Oct 2006 09:54:23 AM |
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J. Young <jayyoung@bible.org> wrote in
news:MPG.1fad273db8200b8f9898fe@news.motzarella.org:
This know...in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves...lovers of
pleasures more than lovers of God...For of this sort are they
which...lead captive silly women...led away with diverse lusts,
ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Everyone knows that The Bible Never Lies.
But evil men & seducers will wax worse & worse
Anal Sex in Accordance with God's Will
deceiving & being deceived.
--
"Audacity, always, audacity"
"Useless eaters"
A government, of freemasons, by freemasons, and for freemasons.
You can fool most of the people, most of the time.
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| User: "Max Warren" |
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28 Oct 2006 10:07:55 AM |
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MyName no@e-mail.com.invalid said:
This know...in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves...lovers of
pleasures more than lovers of God.
Which is why the only way to salvation is for the government to bring back
the death penalty for the sin of Masturbation.
Jesus never masturbated, nor did he take a wife or have sex.
Why should anyone else?
Do you hate the ways of Jesus Christ?
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| User: "MyName" |
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28 Oct 2006 10:22:23 AM |
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Max Warren <maxwarren@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:MPG.1fad3c4cb1bf4b12989914@news.motzarella.org:
MyName no@e-mail.com.invalid said:
This know...in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves...lovers of
pleasures more than lovers of God.
Which is why the only way to salvation is for the
government to bring back the death penalty for the sin of
Masturbation.
Non-sequiter.
Jesus never masturbated, nor did he take a wife or have
sex.
Unsubstantiated assertions.
Why should anyone else?
Obviously, when the preceeding is Unsubstantiated, the
forgoing is moot.
Do you hate the ways of Jesus Christ?
Well, do ya?
--
"Audacity, always, audacity"
"Useless eaters"
A government, of freemasons, by freemasons, and for
freemasons.
You can fool most of the people, most of the time.
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| User: "ScottyFLL" |
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28 Oct 2006 10:41:17 AM |
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Max Warren wrote:
Jesus never masturbated, nor did he take a wife or have sex.
Where does it say that he never masturbated? Where does it say that he
never had sex. Cite, please.
If we don't get a cite, we can just as well assume that Jesus was a big
'mo -- there's more evidence for THAT than there is for his having
never having had an orgasm in his 30-odd years on earth.
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| User: "Zardoz" |
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28 Oct 2006 11:16:30 AM |
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ScottyFLL said:
Where does it say that he never masturbated? Where does it say that he
never had sex. Cite, please.
Where does the Bible say that Jesus had a wife or ever had sex?
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| User: "Animal" |
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28 Oct 2006 11:21:33 AM |
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"Zardoz" <zardoz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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ScottyFLL said:
Where does it say that he never masturbated? Where does it say that he
never had sex. Cite, please.
Where does the Bible say that Jesus had a wife or ever had sex?
It's a well known fact that Jesus preferred and kept the company of men.
Where I'm from, we have a name for people like that; and they have a parade
downtown every July.
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