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27 Jul 2006 01:40:39 PM |
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Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 02:35:44 PM |
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<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
paranoid delusions... the christian persecution complex
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 02:32:24 PM |
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<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
Oh brother.
Careful! They're coming to get you, Mr. Paranoia! Booga, booga!
Sheesh, what an idiot.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "David Iain Greig" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 03:22:30 PM |
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Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
Oh brother.
Careful! They're coming to get you, Mr. Paranoia! Booga, booga!
Sheesh, what an idiot.
Someone get the pliers, we need to get the hook out before
she flops around too much and hurts herself.
--D. 'it's a large-mouthed bass!'
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 03:48:02 PM |
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"David Iain Greig" <dgreig@ediacara.org> wrote in message
news:cabal-slrneci846.c3l.dgreig@darwin.ediacara.org...
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
Oh brother.
Careful! They're coming to get you, Mr. Paranoia! Booga, booga!
Sheesh, what an idiot.
Someone get the pliers, we need to get the hook out before
she flops around too much and hurts herself.
--D. 'it's a large-mouthed bass!'
Yeah, yeah, yeah! I get it! <Bronx Cheer!> :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 04:38:37 PM |
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David Iain Greig wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
Oh brother.
Careful! They're coming to get you, Mr. Paranoia! Booga, booga!
Sheesh, what an idiot.
Someone get the pliers, we need to get the hook out before
she flops around too much and hurts herself.
Well, "no pain, no gain" I guess. But, as a newcomer here,
I wonder whether these Loki visitations have done any good?
I've done some searching of the Google archive and have found
much interesting stuff, including history, justifications,
counter-arguments, etc. But it seems to me that this kind of
post just feeds (and feeds off of) a stereotype of creationist
ignorance and dishonesty. Has a Loki ever posed as a misguided
defender of evolution? Would it be considered impolite for one
to try?
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 09:35:29 PM |
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wrote in
news:1154036316.955464.90370@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
Well, "no pain, no gain" I guess. But, as a newcomer here,
I wonder whether these Loki visitations have done any good?
I've done some searching of the Google archive and have found
much interesting stuff, including history, justifications,
counter-arguments, etc. But it seems to me that this kind of
post just feeds (and feeds off of) a stereotype of creationist
ignorance and dishonesty. Has a Loki ever posed as a misguided
defender of evolution? Would it be considered impolite for one
to try?
A few years ago a loki post was nominated for a POTM before it was
recognized for what it was.
--
Gary Bohn
Science rationally modifies a theory to fit evidence, creationism
emotionally modifies evidence to fit a specific interpretation of the
bible.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 05:45:59 PM |
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On 27 Jul 2006 14:38:37 -0700, wrote:
David Iain Greig wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
Oh brother.
Careful! They're coming to get you, Mr. Paranoia! Booga, booga!
Sheesh, what an idiot.
Someone get the pliers, we need to get the hook out before
she flops around too much and hurts herself.
Well, "no pain, no gain" I guess. But, as a newcomer here,
I wonder whether these Loki visitations have done any good?
I've done some searching of the Google archive and have found
much interesting stuff, including history, justifications,
counter-arguments, etc. But it seems to me that this kind of
post just feeds (and feeds off of) a stereotype of creationist
ignorance and dishonesty. Has a Loki ever posed as a misguided
defender of evolution? Would it be considered impolite for one
to try?
Yes, it's been done, and most often the motive is to expose the
ignorance and gullibility of creationists. Sad thing is, it usually
works. I've seen quite a few obvious Lokis cited on some creationist
web site or other as an accurate representation of what
"evolutionists" actually believe.
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| User: "Gospel Bretts" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 07:39:10 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:45:59 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On 27 Jul 2006 14:38:37 -0700, wrote:
David Iain Greig wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
Oh brother.
Careful! They're coming to get you, Mr. Paranoia! Booga, booga!
Sheesh, what an idiot.
Someone get the pliers, we need to get the hook out before
she flops around too much and hurts herself.
Well, "no pain, no gain" I guess. But, as a newcomer here,
I wonder whether these Loki visitations have done any good?
I've done some searching of the Google archive and have found
much interesting stuff, including history, justifications,
counter-arguments, etc. But it seems to me that this kind of
post just feeds (and feeds off of) a stereotype of creationist
ignorance and dishonesty. Has a Loki ever posed as a misguided
defender of evolution? Would it be considered impolite for one
to try?
Yes, it's been done, and most often the motive is to expose the
ignorance and gullibility of creationists. Sad thing is, it usually
works. I've seen quite a few obvious Lokis cited on some creationist
web site or other as an accurate representation of what
"evolutionists" actually believe.
I'd rather not give creationists even the false satisfaction of
thinking they won an argument against a real "evolutionist", unless I
were able to follow it up by smacking them in the face with the truth.
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Gospel Bretts
a.a. Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 07:51:29 PM |
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Gospel Bretts wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:45:59 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On 27 Jul 2006 14:38:37 -0700, wrote:
David Iain Greig wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
Oh brother.
Careful! They're coming to get you, Mr. Paranoia! Booga, booga!
Sheesh, what an idiot.
Someone get the pliers, we need to get the hook out before
she flops around too much and hurts herself.
Well, "no pain, no gain" I guess. But, as a newcomer here,
I wonder whether these Loki visitations have done any good?
I've done some searching of the Google archive and have found
much interesting stuff, including history, justifications,
counter-arguments, etc. But it seems to me that this kind of
post just feeds (and feeds off of) a stereotype of creationist
ignorance and dishonesty. Has a Loki ever posed as a misguided
defender of evolution? Would it be considered impolite for one
to try?
Yes, it's been done, and most often the motive is to expose the
ignorance and gullibility of creationists. Sad thing is, it usually
works. I've seen quite a few obvious Lokis cited on some creationist
web site or other as an accurate representation of what
"evolutionists" actually believe.
I'd rather not give creationists even the false satisfaction of
thinking they won an argument against a real "evolutionist", unless I
were able to follow it up by smacking them in the face with the truth.
I have to agree with the rev'rend. As has been amply demonstrated
here, there is no way on usenet to smack everyone in the face.
And, it also seems to be true in some cases that the smacking
does no good. Several people are still feeling good here about how
they unmasked another "creationist lie", I'll bet.
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| User: "Dana Tweedy" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 03:01:36 PM |
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<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I smell Loki. Hints:
The ACLU wasn't founded until 1920.
Google on the name "Bill Suttendorf" brings up no hits.
Likewise for the legal citation Kansas vs Suttendorf.
Kansas was not a State until 1861.
Kansas entered the Union as a Free state.
Also, for the name Stanley Beverec Gathinston III , note this little bit
here:
http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2006/05/poor_orac.php
"dr stanley b(everec) gathinston iii is a fake name submitted by me. i made
the entire submission up, and they didnt even bother to check it. the name
is also an anagram; 50 points if you can figure it out."
Posted by: snex | May 8, 2006 08:24 PM
Case closed, it's a loki.
DJT
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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27 Jul 2006 03:31:41 PM |
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After the aliens invaded, flibble Dana Tweedy bleemed snorg
<AY8yg.3836$gF6.2745@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> gnorff Thu, 27 Jul
2006 20:01:36 +0000:
<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I smell Loki. Hints:
The ACLU wasn't founded until 1920.
Google on the name "Bill Suttendorf" brings up no hits. Likewise for the
legal citation Kansas vs Suttendorf. Kansas was not a State until 1861.
Kansas entered the Union as a Free state.
Also, for the name Stanley Beverec Gathinston III , note this little bit
here:
http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2006/05/poor_orac.php "dr stanley
b(everec) gathinston iii is a fake name submitted by me. i made the entire
submission up, and they didnt even bother to check it. the name is also an
anagram; 50 points if you can figure it out."
Posted by: snex | May 8, 2006 08:24 PM
Case closed, it's a loki.
I'm convinced...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Tiny Bulcher" |
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27 Jul 2006 03:39:58 PM |
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Dana Tweedy wrote:
<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I smell Loki. Hints:
The ACLU wasn't founded until 1920.
Google on the name "Bill Suttendorf" brings up no hits.
Likewise for the legal citation Kansas vs Suttendorf.
Kansas was not a State until 1861.
Kansas entered the Union as a Free state.
Also, for the name Stanley Beverec Gathinston III , note this little
bit here:
http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2006/05/poor_orac.php
"dr stanley b(everec) gathinston iii is a fake name submitted by me.
i made the entire submission up, and they didnt even bother to check
it. the name is also an anagram; 50 points if you can figure it out."
Posted by: snex | May 8, 2006 08:24 PM
Case closed, it's a loki.
Hey, snex! I still want to know what the anagram is!
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Inyt
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| User: "John Baker" |
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27 Jul 2006 05:15:09 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:39:58 +0100, "Tiny Bulcher" <RSGD9000@aol.com>
wrote:
Dana Tweedy wrote:
<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I smell Loki. Hints:
The ACLU wasn't founded until 1920.
Google on the name "Bill Suttendorf" brings up no hits.
Likewise for the legal citation Kansas vs Suttendorf.
Kansas was not a State until 1861.
Kansas entered the Union as a Free state.
Also, for the name Stanley Beverec Gathinston III , note this little
bit here:
http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2006/05/poor_orac.php
"dr stanley b(everec) gathinston iii is a fake name submitted by me.
i made the entire submission up, and they didnt even bother to check
it. the name is also an anagram; 50 points if you can figure it out."
Posted by: snex | May 8, 2006 08:24 PM
Case closed, it's a loki.
Hey, snex! I still want to know what the anagram is!
You and me both. I absolutely suck at those things. <G>
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| User: "Gospel Bretts" |
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27 Jul 2006 03:46:07 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:01:36 GMT, "Dana Tweedy"
<reddfrogg@earthlink.net> wrote:
<hiya_snex@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154025639.682499.70620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I smell Loki. Hints:
The ACLU wasn't founded until 1920.
Google on the name "Bill Suttendorf" brings up no hits.
Likewise for the legal citation Kansas vs Suttendorf.
Kansas was not a State until 1861.
Kansas entered the Union as a Free state.
Also, for the name Stanley Beverec Gathinston III , note this little bit
here:
http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2006/05/poor_orac.php
"dr stanley b(everec) gathinston iii is a fake name submitted by me. i made
the entire submission up, and they didnt even bother to check it. the name
is also an anagram; 50 points if you can figure it out."
Posted by: snex | May 8, 2006 08:24 PM
Case closed, it's a loki.
DJT
Cool. :)
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Gospel Bretts
a.a. Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist
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| User: "Cheezits" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 02:07:06 PM |
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trolled:
[fiction deleted]
Snex, is that you?
Sue
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"It's not smart or correct, but it's one of the things that
make us what we are." - Red Green
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| User: "Deadrat" |
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27 Jul 2006 11:33:52 PM |
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wrote in news:1154025639.682499.70620
@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas.
I figured that this was a "joke" at this point. And I hereby modestly
claim the prize for earliest recognition. The OoS was published in 1859,
and Kansas was admitted to the Union in 1861.
A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
And by this point, I was sure. In the first place, Kansas was admitted
as a free state, and in the second, there were cases in slave states in
which slave owners were tried for (and convicted of) murder for killing
their own slaves. This isn't to say that slave owners were usually held
accountable for killing slaves; just that such cases wouldn't have been
treated as Destruction of Property.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
There are a number of different responses from those who "got it," all of
them similar, however, in their spirit of gratuitous condescension toward
those who "missed it." Nothing in this troll is any more ridiculous than
most posts by creationists. In fact, its (facetious) argument equating
evolution with racism is posted continuously here and in all seriousness
by creationists. Its sixty-year mistake in the existence of the ACLU is
hardly the worst mistaken chronology by a creationist.
I wouldn't be surprised to see creationists soon quoting Kansas v
Suttonhof.
Deadrat
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| User: "David Iain Greig" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
28 Jul 2006 12:27:00 AM |
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Deadrat <a@b.com> wrote:
hiya_snex@yahoo.com wrote in news:1154025639.682499.70620
@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas.
I figured that this was a "joke" at this point. And I hereby modestly
claim the prize for earliest recognition. The OoS was published in 1859,
and Kansas was admitted to the Union in 1861.
Nah, I had it the From: line.
--D.
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| User: "Deadrat" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
28 Jul 2006 07:46:13 AM |
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David Iain Greig <dgreig@ediacara.org> wrote in
news:cabal-slrnecj814.ses.dgreig@darwin.ediacara.org:
Deadrat <a@b.com> wrote:
hiya_snex@yahoo.com wrote in news:1154025639.682499.70620
@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was
a little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas.
I figured that this was a "joke" at this point. And I hereby
modestly claim the prize for earliest recognition. The OoS was
published in 1859, and Kansas was admitted to the Union in 1861.
Nah, I had it the From: line.
OK. I was the earliest without using clairvoyance.
Deadrat
--D.
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| User: "David Iain Greig" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
28 Jul 2006 09:46:09 AM |
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Deadrat <a@b.com> wrote:
David Iain Greig <dgreig@ediacara.org> wrote in
news:cabal-slrnecj814.ses.dgreig@darwin.ediacara.org:
Deadrat <a@b.com> wrote:
hiya_snex@yahoo.com wrote in news:1154025639.682499.70620
@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was
a little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas.
I figured that this was a "joke" at this point. And I hereby
modestly claim the prize for earliest recognition. The OoS was
published in 1859, and Kansas was admitted to the Union in 1861.
Nah, I had it the From: line.
OK. I was the earliest without using clairvoyance.
'hiya_snex' was kind of an obvious name to use
--D.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
28 Jul 2006 12:23:12 AM |
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Deadrat wrote:
There are a number of different responses from those who "got it," all of
them similar, however, in their spirit of gratuitous condescension toward
those who "missed it." Nothing in this troll is any more ridiculous than
most posts by creationists. In fact, its (facetious) argument equating
evolution with racism is posted continuously here and in all seriousness
by creationists. Its sixty-year mistake in the existence of the ACLU is
hardly the worst mistaken chronology by a creationist.
Hmmm. Where is Stephen Colbert when we need him.
A word for this argument is needed. "Truthiness" just doesn't
quite fit. Hmmm.
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| User: "John Harshman" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
28 Jul 2006 09:51:15 AM |
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Deadrat wrote:
hiya_snex@yahoo.com wrote in news:1154025639.682499.70620
@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas.
I figured that this was a "joke" at this point. And I hereby modestly
claim the prize for earliest recognition. The OoS was published in 1859,
and Kansas was admitted to the Union in 1861.
A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
And by this point, I was sure. In the first place, Kansas was admitted
as a free state, and in the second, there were cases in slave states in
which slave owners were tried for (and convicted of) murder for killing
their own slaves. This isn't to say that slave owners were usually held
accountable for killing slaves; just that such cases wouldn't have been
treated as Destruction of Property.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
There are a number of different responses from those who "got it," all of
them similar, however, in their spirit of gratuitous condescension toward
those who "missed it." Nothing in this troll is any more ridiculous than
most posts by creationists. In fact, its (facetious) argument equating
evolution with racism is posted continuously here and in all seriousness
by creationists. Its sixty-year mistake in the existence of the ACLU is
hardly the worst mistaken chronology by a creationist.
So what you're saying here is that you are much smarter than everyone
else for figuring it out sooner than anyone else, and that other people
who figured it out later are wrong for criticizing those who didn't
figure it out at all, because it's so hard to figure out that only a
genius like you should be expected to.
Congratulations. You have performed a triple lutz of condescension.
I wouldn't be surprised to see creationists soon quoting Kansas v
Suttonhof.
Nor would I, because creationists have a stupidity level vastly
increased by the desire to be fooled.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 01:59:31 PM |
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wrote:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species,
there was a little-known and little-discussed trial in the
state of Kansas.
Pretending we all accept this as fact, so what?
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a
murder case. Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec
Gathinston III of the ACLU,
The ACLU didn't exist then.
Get it? We know your story is bunk because the ACLU did
not exist at that time.
| The ACLU was founded by Roger Baldwin, Crystal Eastman,
| Albert DeSilver and others in 1920.
http://www.aclu.org/about/index.html
Not that it would matter anyway, because your fairytale
has NOTHING to do with evolution. Nothing. It's not
describing evolution and it's not presenting us with any
argument based on evolution.
In fact, it's a classic example of a MISREPRESENTATION
of evolution.
Idiot. Troll. Loser.
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 02:14:26 PM |
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wrote:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas.
Tick....
A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Tick....
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
TICK!!!....
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species.
TICK!!!!!!...
Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges.
BOOOM!!!!!!!
State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
Nearly got me. I always read everything twice for that very reason.
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| User: "Josh Miles" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 04:03:01 PM |
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wrote:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU
The ACLU? How is that possible? Was he a time traveler?
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| User: "John Harshman" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 06:20:57 PM |
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wrote:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
As usual, I am appalled and dismayed at the inability of so many TO
readers to recognize a joke when they see one. There is no such case.
The writer did not intend you to believe there was any such case. A
joke. Understand?
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| User: "David Iain Greig" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
28 Jul 2006 12:25:44 AM |
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John Harshman <jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote:
hiya_snex@yahoo.com wrote:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
As usual, I am appalled and dismayed at the inability of so many TO
readers to recognize a joke when they see one. There is no such case.
The writer did not intend you to believe there was any such case. A
joke. Understand?
From the biting posters, and the fact it's crossposted to a.a, I
think most of the trolled are a.a. regulars, not t.o
--D.
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| User: "Josh Miles" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
28 Jul 2006 06:32:50 AM |
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David Iain Greig wrote:
John Harshman <jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote:
hiya_snex@yahoo.com wrote:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
As usual, I am appalled and dismayed at the inability of so many TO
readers to recognize a joke when they see one. There is no such case.
The writer did not intend you to believe there was any such case. A
joke. Understand?
From the biting posters, and the fact it's crossposted to a.a, I
think most of the trolled are a.a. regulars, not t.o
--D.
Maybe his being a Google Groups user has something to do with it. It's
the new WebTV.
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| User: "John Harshman" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
28 Jul 2006 09:42:15 AM |
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Josh Miles wrote:
David Iain Greig wrote:
John Harshman <jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote:
hiya_snex@yahoo.com wrote:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
As usual, I am appalled and dismayed at the inability of so many TO
readers to recognize a joke when they see one. There is no such case.
The writer did not intend you to believe there was any such case. A
joke. Understand?
From the biting posters, and the fact it's crossposted to a.a, I
think most of the trolled are a.a. regulars, not t.o
--D.
Maybe his being a Google Groups user has something to do with it. It's
the new WebTV.
This is why you should read the actual post, not just the address of the
sender, before responding.
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| User: "Dr. Creationist, Ph.D." |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 06:46:27 PM |
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wrote:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
And then Daddy Bear said "This porrage is too cold!"
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| User: "Iain" |
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| Title: Re: Proof Linking Evolution to Racism |
27 Jul 2006 02:09:53 PM |
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wrote:
Just 5 months after the release of the Origin of Species, there was a
little-known and little-discussed trial in the state of Kansas. A man
named Bill Suttonhof was accused of murdering three African slave
girls. Since slavery was still legal at the time, however, it was
treated as a Destruction of Property case, rather than a murder case.
Suttonhof's attorney, Stanley Beverec Gathinston III of the ACLU,
applied a novel approach to defending his client. His only piece of
evidence was Darwin's Origin of Species. Gathinston claimed that since
evolution had been proven, Suttonhof could not be held responsible for
helping further it along. Suttonhof was acquitted of all charges. State
of Kansas vs. Suttonhof is almost unheard-of, and it is kept hidden
with good reason by the evolutionists. It reveals their true intentions
about how they want society run.
False story, false trial, false dates.
Lies.
~Iain
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