Religions > Atheism > Proof of GOD: The behavior of those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit.
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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30 Dec 2006 06:29:15 PM |
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Proof of GOD: The behavior of those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit. |
Convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
It's a shame this group's messages are constantly cluttered with one
inconsiderate person's off topic proselytizing. Truly a shame. I have
participated in the prostate cancer forum for some time now, and
fortunately it does not suffer from such behavior. Everyone agrees that
the prostate forum is a wonderful forum, but this (cardio) forum could
never achieve that status with the amount of off topic proselytizing
that takes place here. There ought to be a procedure whereby mentally
ill (and obsessive) persons' inapproprite behavior can be effectively
controlled. I say this because one would have to be truly (and
severely) imbalanced to think it is OK to shower a (what could be a
very important) forum such as this with incessant off topic
proselytizing.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little bit more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot
more, dear neighbor Tdub whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
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| User: "Ronald More-More Moshki" |
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| Title: Re: Proof of GOD: The behavior of those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit. |
31 Dec 2006 10:58:12 AM |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
It's a shame this group's messages are constantly cluttered with one
inconsiderate person's off topic proselytizing. Truly a shame. I have
participated in the prostate cancer forum for some time now, and
fortunately it does not suffer from such behavior. Everyone agrees that
the prostate forum is a wonderful forum, but this (cardio) forum could
never achieve that status with the amount of off topic proselytizing
that takes place here. There ought to be a procedure whereby mentally
ill (and obsessive) persons' inapproprite behavior can be effectively
controlled. I say this because one would have to be truly (and
severely) imbalanced to think it is OK to shower a (what could be a
very important) forum such as this with incessant off topic
proselytizing.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little bit more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot
more, dear neighbor Tdub whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Andrew, is it a homosexual love of JC? Which is fine.
Please admit it; most men do.
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| Title: Re: Proof of GOD: The behavior of those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit. |
30 Dec 2006 06:38:13 PM |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
It's a shame this group's messages are constantly cluttered with one
inconsiderate person's off topic proselytizing. Truly a shame. I have
participated in the prostate cancer forum for some time now, and
fortunately it does not suffer from such behavior. Everyone agrees that
the prostate forum is a wonderful forum, but this (cardio) forum could
never achieve that status with the amount of off topic proselytizing
that takes place here. There ought to be a procedure whereby mentally
ill (and obsessive) persons' inapproprite behavior can be effectively
controlled. I say this because one would have to be truly (and
severely) imbalanced to think it is OK to shower a (what could be a
very important) forum such as this with incessant off topic
proselytizing.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
You two-timing cheat! We gave you the best years of our lives! You're
not supposed to convict anyone that's not an alt.atheism regular,
Earthquack! We'll get you, my pretty. And your diet scam too. Look for
these guys in the driveway..
http://www.cheaters.com/
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
Numbers of people discarding religion on the rise in the US:
http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdate&BarnaUpdateID=163
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/3344680/detail.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/amer_intol.htm
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: Proof of GOD: The behavior of those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit. |
30 Dec 2006 07:15:49 PM |
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Convicted neighbor wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
It's a shame this group's messages are constantly cluttered with one
inconsiderate person's off topic proselytizing. Truly a shame. I have
participated in the prostate cancer forum for some time now, and
fortunately it does not suffer from such behavior. Everyone agrees that
the prostate forum is a wonderful forum, but this (cardio) forum could
never achieve that status with the amount of off topic proselytizing
that takes place here. There ought to be a procedure whereby mentally
ill (and obsessive) persons' inapproprite behavior can be effectively
controlled. I say this because one would have to be truly (and
severely) imbalanced to think it is OK to shower a (what could be a
very important) forum such as this with incessant off topic
proselytizing.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
You two-timing cheat!
Clearly you also remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more,
dear neighbor Floyd whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Proof of GOD: The behavior of those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit. |
30 Dec 2006 07:28:35 PM |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Convicted neighbor wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
It's a shame this group's messages are constantly cluttered with one
inconsiderate person's off topic proselytizing. Truly a shame. I have
participated in the prostate cancer forum for some time now, and
fortunately it does not suffer from such behavior. Everyone agrees that
the prostate forum is a wonderful forum, but this (cardio) forum could
never achieve that status with the amount of off topic proselytizing
that takes place here. There ought to be a procedure whereby mentally
ill (and obsessive) persons' inapproprite behavior can be effectively
controlled. I say this because one would have to be truly (and
severely) imbalanced to think it is OK to shower a (what could be a
very important) forum such as this with incessant off topic
proselytizing.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
You two-timing cheat!
Clearly you also remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
And clearly you also remain a neurotic, hopeless mess. Relive now those
glorious days of yesteryear...back when you actually had a JOB.
And pay that child support, deadbeat! Your ex-wife's new boyfriend
needs the money for his car payment.
(/waybackmachine on)
Subject: Your Website
From:
Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
To:
Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.
(**Reference to Central Florida Heart Center, Ocala Fl. Andy was fired
from here after 88 days for claiming that his collegues were doing
unnecessary angioplasties-Andy wanted the patients to go on his stupid
diet instead..)
After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that
you are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I
believe what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to
suit your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative
as possible. Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are
detractions and border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of
the important features of them is that the comments are published. Your
website fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that
you are the only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any
reasonable person seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it
is you that is out of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in
Ocala. As I have in the past, I am trying to get you to see the reality
of the situation from outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers more. Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building
mine. I can call on physicians from around the world and this community
to attest to it. I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to
do cardiac catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion
about my work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no
reputation except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You
are continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website.
How do you think what you have said would look to another
physician-perhaps an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or
anyone would conclude that you are a reputable physician, easy to work
with and a team player? Personally, if I find that you speak
disparagingly of me, or my work to any patient or physician, be assured
I will not take the matter lightly. Whatever you think of me
personally, or whatever you think of my professional activity, you do
not have the right to condemn either me or the work to another and
thereby compromise my reputation. You may disagree with me, or state we
have a difference of opinion, but you may not state that I am
practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once again, if I find that you
have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I will certainly take
the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a hearing. If the Florida
State Board finds cause, and renders a censure, that must be
transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all future
applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense should
tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive and
could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work
with your colleagues. Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past
go. Look to your future which could be bright. If you persist in these
efforts of hitting back and trying to justify your actions to a world
that looks upon such attempts as childish or immature and
unprofessional, you will continue to do yourself a disservice. You lost
your job because you talked yourself out of it.
Frank Hildner MD
xxxxxxx.org
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| User: "Art Deco" |
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| Title: Re: Proof of GOD: The behavior of those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit. |
30 Dec 2006 08:22:44 PM |
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<> wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Convicted neighbor wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
It's a shame this group's messages are constantly cluttered with one
inconsiderate person's off topic proselytizing. Truly a shame. I have
participated in the prostate cancer forum for some time now, and
fortunately it does not suffer from such behavior. Everyone agrees that
the prostate forum is a wonderful forum, but this (cardio) forum could
never achieve that status with the amount of off topic proselytizing
that takes place here. There ought to be a procedure whereby mentally
ill (and obsessive) persons' inapproprite behavior can be effectively
controlled. I say this because one would have to be truly (and
severely) imbalanced to think it is OK to shower a (what could be a
very important) forum such as this with incessant off topic
proselytizing.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
You two-timing cheat!
Clearly you also remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
And clearly you also remain a neurotic, hopeless mess. Relive now those
glorious days of yesteryear...back when you actually had a JOB.
And pay that child support, deadbeat! Your ex-wife's new boyfriend
needs the money for his car payment.
(/waybackmachine on)
Subject: Your Website
From:
Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
To:
Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.
(**Reference to Central Florida Heart Center, Ocala Fl. Andy was fired
from here after 88 days for claiming that his collegues were doing
unnecessary angioplasties-Andy wanted the patients to go on his stupid
diet instead..)
After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that
you are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I
believe what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to
suit your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative
as possible. Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are
detractions and border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of
the important features of them is that the comments are published. Your
website fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that
you are the only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any
reasonable person seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it
is you that is out of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in
Ocala. As I have in the past, I am trying to get you to see the reality
of the situation from outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers more. Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building
mine. I can call on physicians from around the world and this community
to attest to it. I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to
do cardiac catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion
about my work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no
reputation except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You
are continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website.
How do you think what you have said would look to another
physician-perhaps an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or
anyone would conclude that you are a reputable physician, easy to work
with and a team player? Personally, if I find that you speak
disparagingly of me, or my work to any patient or physician, be assured
I will not take the matter lightly. Whatever you think of me
personally, or whatever you think of my professional activity, you do
not have the right to condemn either me or the work to another and
thereby compromise my reputation. You may disagree with me, or state we
have a difference of opinion, but you may not state that I am
practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once again, if I find that you
have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I will certainly take
the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a hearing. If the Florida
State Board finds cause, and renders a censure, that must be
transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all future
applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense should
tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive and
could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work
with your colleagues. Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past
go. Look to your future which could be bright. If you persist in these
efforts of hitting back and trying to justify your actions to a world
that looks upon such attempts as childish or immature and
unprofessional, you will continue to do yourself a disservice. You lost
your job because you talked yourself out of it.
Frank Hildner MD
xxxxxxx.org
And Chung still doesn't understand.
--
Official "netcabal.com demon"
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| User: "ironjustice" |
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| Title: Re: Proof of GOD: The behavior of those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit. |
31 Dec 2006 12:55:00 PM |
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panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:.
Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured
I will not take the matter lightly. Whatever you think of me
personally, or whatever you think of my professional activity, you do
not have the right to condemn either me or the work to another and
thereby compromise my reputation. You may disagree with me, or state
we
have a difference of opinion, but you may not state that I am
practicing less that optimum cardiology. <<
????
He has as much right as .. anyone .. to speak his .. mind.
I can supply him with a few choice articles which show CLEARLY that YOU
..=2E that is 'the standard of care' .. have been killing .. people WITH
..=2E your 'standard of care' ..
FIVE .. times .. the rate of death .. BY .. 'standard of care' ..
And since it seems the researchers believe this has been going on for
..=2E decades .. I suppose YOUR ..
"thirty-five years" of medical cardiology practice would have given YOU
..=2E plenty of time to kill .. how many of the women .. personally .. ?
Take a wild .. ballpark .. guess ..
Sooo .. you 'say' you haven't been killing people with .. stupidity /
{acceptance of standard of care like some automoton] but BY accepting
TO 'treat' WITH this .. accepted standard of care .. you ALSO .. accept
the .. responsibility OF this .. standard of care ..
And NOW since it has been shown you / 'they' / standard of care .. HAVE
been killing people .. then NOW you cannot say .. "I take no
responsibility FOR being an automoton .." .. is kindacandyassed ..
Five times the rate of death ...
Let's hope somebodies son or brother or father or uncle doesn't find
out and take it upon themselves to .. personally give you some ..
hand's on .. boning up ..
Or maybe .. let's hope they .. do .. ?
Public release date: 19-Dec-2006
Contact: Kara Gavin
kega...@umich.edu
734-764-2220
University of Michigan Health System
Blood transfusions raise heart patients' infection and death risk --
especially women
New finding helps 'connect the dots' of a women-specific medical
mystery
ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- Blood transfusions save the lives of millions of
heart surgery patients and others each year. But a new study suggests
that patients who receive transfusions during heart bypass surgery have
a higher risk of developing potentially dangerous infections, and
dying, after their operation.
In fact, this increased risk may help explain a longstanding medical
mystery: why women bypass patients are more likely than men to die in
the first few months after surgery. Women are more likely to receive
blood during heart bypass operations, which are performed on more than
465,000 Americans each year.
The findings, from the Patient Safety Enhancement Program (PSEP) at the
University of Michigan Health System, are based on data from 9,218
Michigan bypass patients. After adjusting for factors such as the
urgency of the operation, those who received blood transfusions from
donors were five times more likely to die within 100 days of their
operation than those who did not.
The paper is published in the December issue of the American Heart
Journal. It builds on a previous U-M analysis that found that a
difference in infection rates accounted for the difference in death
risk between men and women bypass patients.
The U-M team, with the help of Neil Blumberg, M.D., of the University
of Rochester Medical Center, focused on blood transfusions as a
contributing factor. Prior research has shown that recipients of stored
donor blood have more post-surgical infections, and that women receive
more transfusions because they tend to have lower hemoglobin
concentrations.
This new study connects the dots. "To the best of our knowledge, this
is the first study to state that allogeneic transfusions may be the
reason why women have a greater post-bypass surgery mortality risk than
men," says author Mary A.M. Rogers, Ph.D., M.S., PSEP, research
director and research assistant professor of internal medicine.
Allogeneic is the term for blood from another person.
The authors strongly note that blood transfusions can be life-saving,
and that the infections observed in this study are not likely due to
contamination of the blood. Rather, they may be due to other factors,
including the patient's immune response to substances such as white
blood cells that are present in stored donor blood. These findings may
help guide hospitals and blood banks in deciding whether to filter
donated blood to reduce the levels of white blood cells. This practice
is increasingly common, but not yet universal, in the United States.
The study is based on analysis of data from all Medicare beneficiaries
ages 65 and older who had coronary artery bypass operations in Michigan
in a single year.
The researchers performed statistical analyses that took into account
the patients' blood transfusion status, their co-existing diseases,
age, race, sex, and whether the bypass operation was done on an
elective, urgent or emergency basis. They looked at infections and
deaths that were reported during the 100 days after surgery.
In all, about 88 percent of women received an allogeneic blood
transfusion during bypass surgery, compared with nearly 67 percent of
men. When the researchers adjusted for other factors, women were 3.4
times as likely as men to receive blood. This gender difference was
evident regardless of whether the operation was elective, urgent or
emergency.
The odds of having an infection of any kind were about three times
greater in patients who received allogeneic blood than in patients who
did not. The more blood they received, the higher their infection risk.
This "dose dependent" relationship strengthens the evidence that
transfusions may be related to infections.
No single type of infection stood out as more common among blood
recipients, which suggests a body-wide immune response issue rather
than a problem, for example, at the site of the incision.
The analyses revealed that women were more likely to experience an
infection than men after bypass surgery, which appeared to be due to
the increased number of transfusions in women. This resulted in an
increased mortality rate in women. Overall, 9 percent of women and 6
percent of the men died within 100 days of their operation.
For patients who had banked their own blood ahead of the operation and
who received only their own blood, the infection risk was similar to
that of patients who received no blood transfusions. Rogers notes that
patients should ask their doctors regarding banking their own blood if
possible, when scheduled for a bypass operation or other kind of
surgery.
In addition, physicians are increasing their use of transfusion
alternatives such as blood "expanders," blood substitutes and
blood-conserving procedures during bypass surgeries.
The results also highlight the importance of the proper use of
antibiotics and infection control practices in patients hospitalized
for a surgical procedure, says Rogers.
The U-M team is investigating the issue further, including a new study
funded by Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan Foundation to extend the
research into elderly patients who recently underwent bypass surgeries
in Michigan.
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In addition to Rogers and Blumberg, the study authors included PSEP
director Sanjay Saint, M.D., MPH; Catherine Kim, M.D., MPH; Brahmajee
Nallamothu, M.D., MPH; and Kenneth Langa, M.D., Ph.D. It was funded by
the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, the National Institutes
of Health, the Department of Veterans Affairs, the John A. Hartford
Foundation and a Paul B. Beeson Physician Faculty Scholars in Aging
Research award.
Reference: American Heart Journal, Volume 152, Issue 6, Pages 1028-1034
(December 2006).
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: Proof of GOD: The behavior of those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit. |
30 Dec 2006 08:27:36 PM |
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Convicted neighbor wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Convicted neighbor wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
It's a shame this group's messages are constantly cluttered with one
inconsiderate person's off topic proselytizing. Truly a shame. I have
participated in the prostate cancer forum for some time now, and
fortunately it does not suffer from such behavior. Everyone agrees that
the prostate forum is a wonderful forum, but this (cardio) forum could
never achieve that status with the amount of off topic proselytizing
that takes place here. There ought to be a procedure whereby mentally
ill (and obsessive) persons' inapproprite behavior can be effectively
controlled. I say this because one would have to be truly (and
severely) imbalanced to think it is OK to shower a (what could be a
very important) forum such as this with incessant off topic
proselytizing.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
You two-timing cheat!
Clearly you also remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
And clearly you also remain a neurotic, hopeless mess.
Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Relive now those
glorious days of yesteryear...back when you actually had a JOB.
Today is not yesteryear.
Not only am I gainfully employed today (Laus Deo !), my LORD has
entrusted me with employees and with millions:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
Since you are local, you are certainly welcome to come out and see for
yourself using your own GOD-given eyes:
http://TheHealthFair.com
As those of this world would say... "Seeing is believing."
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ have been blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
You can be too if you simply and wisely choose to surrender to HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more,
dear neighbor Floyd whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
And pay that child support, deadbeat! Your ex-wife's new boyfriend
needs the money for his car payment.
(/waybackmachine on)
Subject: Your Website
From:
Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
To:
Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.
(**Reference to Central Florida Heart Center, Ocala Fl. Andy was fired
from here after 88 days for claiming that his collegues were doing
unnecessary angioplasties-Andy wanted the patients to go on his stupid
diet instead..)
After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that
you are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I
believe what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to
suit your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative
as possible. Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are
detractions and border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of
the important features of them is that the comments are published. Your
website fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that
you are the only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any
reasonable person seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it
is you that is out of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in
Ocala. As I have in the past, I am trying to get you to see the reality
of the situation from outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers more. Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building
mine. I can call on physicians from around the world and this community
to attest to it. I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to
do cardiac catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion
about my work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no
reputation except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You
are continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website.
How do you think what you have said would look to another
physician-perhaps an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or
anyone would conclude that you are a reputable physician, easy to work
with and a team player? Personally, if I find that you speak
disparagingly of me, or my work to any patient or physician, be assured
I will not take the matter lightly. Whatever you think of me
personally, or whatever you think of my professional activity, you do
not have the right to condemn either me or the work to another and
thereby compromise my reputation. You may disagree with me, or state we
have a difference of opinion, but you may not state that I am
practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once again, if I find that you
have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I will certainly take
the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a hearing. If the Florida
State Board finds cause, and renders a censure, that must be
transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all future
applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense should
tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive and
could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work
with your colleagues. Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past
go. Look to your future which could be bright. If you persist in these
efforts of hitting back and trying to justify your actions to a world
that looks upon such attempts as childish or immature and
unprofessional, you will continue to do yourself a disservice. You lost
your job because you talked yourself out of it.
Frank Hildner MD
xxxxxxx.org
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30 Dec 2006 07:27:39 PM |
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Andy B. Chunk in the "holy sprit" stroked his own ego and wrote:
Convicted neighbor wrote:
Andy B. Chunk in the "holy sprit" stroked his own ego and wrote:
Convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
It's a shame this group's messages are constantly cluttered with one
inconsiderate person's off topic proselytizing. Truly a shame. I have
participated in the prostate cancer forum for some time now, and
fortunately it does not suffer from such behavior. Everyone agrees that
the prostate forum is a wonderful forum, but this (cardio) forum could
never achieve that status with the amount of off topic proselytizing
that takes place here. There ought to be a procedure whereby mentally
ill (and obsessive) persons' inapproprite behavior can be effectively
controlled. I say this because one would have to be truly (and
severely) imbalanced to think it is OK to shower a (what could be a
very important) forum such as this with incessant off topic
proselytizing.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
You two-timing cheat!
Clearly you also remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
Conned any new marks into sending you $30 today, fraud?
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Official "netcabal.com demon"
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| User: "Art Deco" |
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| Title: Re: Proof of GOD: The behavior of those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit. |
30 Dec 2006 07:26:27 PM |
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Andy B. Chunk in the "holy sprit" stroked his own ego and wrote:
Convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
It's a shame this group's messages are constantly cluttered with one
inconsiderate person's off topic proselytizing. Truly a shame. I have
participated in the prostate cancer forum for some time now, and
fortunately it does not suffer from such behavior. Everyone agrees that
the prostate forum is a wonderful forum, but this (cardio) forum could
never achieve that status with the amount of off topic proselytizing
that takes place here. There ought to be a procedure whereby mentally
ill (and obsessive) persons' inapproprite behavior can be effectively
controlled. I say this because one would have to be truly (and
severely) imbalanced to think it is OK to shower a (what could be a
very important) forum such as this with incessant off topic
proselytizing.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Hey weasel -- please specify exactly how your hate list constitutes
"proof" of God.
Space for your evasion here:
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Official "netcabal.com demon"
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| User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD...IT WAS EASY!" |
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30 Dec 2006 11:15:16 PM |
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"Art Deco" <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote in message
news:301220061826276415%erfc-1024@usa.net...
Andy B. Chunk in the "holy sprit" stroked his own ego and wrote:
Convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
It's a shame this group's messages are constantly cluttered with one
inconsiderate person's off topic proselytizing. Truly a shame. I have
participated in the prostate cancer forum for some time now, and
fortunately it does not suffer from such behavior. Everyone agrees that
the prostate forum is a wonderful forum, but this (cardio) forum could
never achieve that status with the amount of off topic proselytizing
that takes place here. There ought to be a procedure whereby mentally
ill (and obsessive) persons' inapproprite behavior can be effectively
controlled. I say this because one would have to be truly (and
severely) imbalanced to think it is OK to shower a (what could be a
very important) forum such as this with incessant off topic
proselytizing.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Hey weasel -- please specify exactly how your hate list constitutes
"proof" of God.
chunks has no proof-he is insane.
SUCK THE ***** OF CHRIST!---Holy Spirit.
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31 Dec 2006 10:48:44 AM |
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I KILLED YOUR GOD...IT WAS EASY! <NUNIADAMN@BIZZNISS.NET> wrote:
"Art Deco" <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote in message
news:301220061826276415%erfc-1024@usa.net...
Andy B. Chunk in the "holy sprit" stroked his own ego and wrote:
Convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
It's a shame this group's messages are constantly cluttered with one
inconsiderate person's off topic proselytizing. Truly a shame. I have
participated in the prostate cancer forum for some time now, and
fortunately it does not suffer from such behavior. Everyone agrees that
the prostate forum is a wonderful forum, but this (cardio) forum could
never achieve that status with the amount of off topic proselytizing
that takes place here. There ought to be a procedure whereby mentally
ill (and obsessive) persons' inapproprite behavior can be effectively
controlled. I say this because one would have to be truly (and
severely) imbalanced to think it is OK to shower a (what could be a
very important) forum such as this with incessant off topic
proselytizing.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Hey weasel -- please specify exactly how your hate list constitutes
"proof" of God.
chunks has no proof-he is insane.
SUCK THE ***** OF CHRIST!---Holy Spirit.
Note -- Chunk was too much of a coward to answer the question.
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Official "netcabal.com mascot demon"
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| User: "Martin Phipps" |
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| Title: Re: Proof of GOD: The behavior of those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit. |
30 Dec 2006 08:24:47 PM |
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I'll say it again: if spamming is proof of the existance of God then
doesn't that make God a spammer?
Martin
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