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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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21 Jan 2007 07:13:20 AM |
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Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: HIS creation of the universe. |
brother Melchizedek wrote:
"Father Haskell" wrote:
WhewAustralopithicus wrote:
"Father Haskell" wrote:
brother Melchizedek wrote:
"St. Jackanapes" wrote:
<snip>
Whack-A-Fundy
Squash a Liver!
50 Yard Bible Toss!
Oh goodie, a picnic. I'll bring the potato salad.
Melchy says he'll bring the goat.
FA talking to him/her self, huh ... :-)
Divine Design
"Only a rookie who knows nothing about science would say science takes away from faith. If you really study science, it will bring
you closer to God."
-James Tour, Nanoscientist
The astronomical evidence for God must be strong when atheistic physicists admit that "the universe exploded out of nothingness,"
and agnostic astronomers claim that "supernatural forces" were so at work in the beginning that scientists are led back to "a band
of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries" (see chapter 3). But the scientific evidence for God does not end with the
Cosmological Argument. For many, the precision with which the universe exploded into being provides even more persuasive evidence
for the existence of God.
This evidence, technically known as the Teleological Argument, derives its name from the Greek word telos, which means "design." The
Teleological Argument goes like this:
1. Every design had a designer.
2. The universe has highly complex design.
3. Therefore, the universe had a Designer.
Isaac Newton (1642-1727) implicitly confirmed the validity of the Teleological Argument when he marveled at the design of our solar
system. He wrote, "This most beautiful system of the sun, planets and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an
intelligent and powerful Being."?1? Yet it was William Paley (1743-1805) who made the argument famous by his commonsense assertion
that every watch requires a watchmaker. Imagine you're walking along in the woods and you find a diamond-studded Rolex on the
ground. What do you conclude is the cause of that watch: The wind and the rain? Erosion? Some combination of natural forces? Of
course not! There's absolutely no question in your mind that some intelligent being made that watch, and that some unfortunate
individual must have accidentally dropped it there.
Scientists are now finding that the universe in which we live is like that diamond-studded Rolex, except the universe is even more
precisely designed than the watch. In fact, the universe is specifically tweaked to enable life on earth-a planet with scores of
improbable and interdependent life-supporting conditions that make it a tiny oasis in a vast and hostile universe.
These highly precise and interdependent environmental conditions (which are called "anthropic constants") make up what is known as
the "Anthropic Principle." "Anthropic" comes from a Greek word that means "human" or "man." The Anthropic Principle is just a fancy
title for the mounting evidence that has many scientists believing that the universe is extremely fine-tuned (designed) to support
human life here on earth.
In this vast and hostile universe, we earthlings are much like astronauts who can survive only in the small confines of their
spaceship. Like a spaceship, our earth supports life as it hurls through lifeless space. But also like a spaceship, a slight change
or malfunction in any one of a number of factors-in either the universe or the earth itself-could fatally alter the narrowly defined
environmental conditions we need to survive.
Apollo 13, one of the most challenging and famed missions in the history of NASA, will help drive this point home. We're going spend
the next few pages aboard Apollo 13. And as we do, we'll point out some of the anthropic constants that make our lives possible.
1 Isaac Newton, "General Scholium," in Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy (1687) in Great Books of the Western World,
Robert M. Hutchins, ed. (Chicago: Encyclopedia Britannica, n.d.), 369.
Geisler, N. L., & Turek, F. (2004). I don't have enough faith to be an atheist (95). Wheaton, Ill.: Crossway Books.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to post this.
Laus Deo ! ! !
Let us continue to prayer for our dear friends and neighbors who have
been convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
For they are in danger of unwisely choosing to blaspheme the Holy
Spirit thereby becoming demons:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6f0944c007976167?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear brother Melchizedek whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
28 Mar 2007 01:06:01 AM |
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On Mar 28, 2:01 am, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 28, 1:41 am, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 9:52 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 3:11 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 12:26 am, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 26, 10:14 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
Chuck Manson didn't kill the Tates or the LoBiancas.
Chuck Manson just gave the orders.
Chuck Manson is innocent.
Free Chuck Manson.
Look, I can play that game, too!
That's good.
How did you know I would go that way?
You threw all compassion into the trash when you
whored yourself out jesus?
Shame. You should have demanded per diem in the
contract.
Just kidding around, dear pastor.
Do you repent a lot, pastor?
To whom? My cat?
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's a cat. It only thinks it's god.
Sorry, God mainly works through losers.
No kidding.
Christians keep on forgetting that
for God losing is winning.
Inversion is Satanic.
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| User: "stumper" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
28 Mar 2007 01:11:17 AM |
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Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 28, 2:01 am, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 28, 1:41 am, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 9:52 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 3:11 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 12:26 am, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 26, 10:14 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
Chuck Manson didn't kill the Tates or the LoBiancas.
Chuck Manson just gave the orders.
Chuck Manson is innocent.
Free Chuck Manson.
Look, I can play that game, too!
That's good.
How did you know I would go that way?
You threw all compassion into the trash when you
whored yourself out jesus?
Shame. You should have demanded per diem in the
contract.
Just kidding around, dear pastor.
Do you repent a lot, pastor?
To whom? My cat?
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's a cat. It only thinks it's god.
Sorry, God mainly works through losers.
No kidding.
Christians keep on forgetting that
for God losing is winning.
Inversion is Satanic.
Wonderful.
At least you believe in angels!
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~Stumper
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| User: "Velvet Elvis" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
27 Mar 2007 08:28:08 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
--
Consider the ignorance of the average fundamentalist.
Then realize that by definition, fully half of them
must be even dumber than that.
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| User: "stumper" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
27 Mar 2007 01:31:42 PM |
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Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Does God even exist?
You cannot have it both ways.
--
~Stumper
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
27 Mar 2007 03:51:43 PM |
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On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
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| User: "stumper" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
27 Mar 2007 04:52:44 PM |
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Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
--
~Stumper
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| User: "BoliviaMan" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
27 Mar 2007 07:48:43 PM |
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"stumper" <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in message news:M4SdndzL8rmBD5TbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@ptd.net...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
PLONK!
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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30 Mar 2007 01:13:31 AM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, BoliviaMan said...
"stumper" <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in message news:M4SdndzL8rmBD5TbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@ptd.net...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
PLONK!
LOL! Loiodice has kill-filed a fellow Christian! Bwaaa-haaa-haaa! That
right there is a perfect example why Jesus is not god. If Jesus were
what Christians claim him to be, the world would be much more simpler.
Upon learning about Jesus and accepting him into their 'hearts" and upon
communing with his "voice" - a sort of radio broadcast that all
Christians claim that they can tune into - they would all be on the same
page.
The Christian church would still not be ripping itself to shreds after
2000 years of bitter acrimony, slaughter and death over Xian theology.
There would be no Christians saying, "Well, he's not a True Christian!"
when they speak of other sects, or just anyone they don't like at the
moment.
Why is this "radio broadcast" from Jesus so devisive? Why does he tell
Jerry Falwell one things and Louis Farrakhan's another?? Why do
Christians hate their fellow Jesus lovers to the point of massive
slaughter. What of the slaughter and plague from the 30 Years War in
Europe between the Catholics & Protestants? Oh, I already know the
answer! They weren't "TRUE CHRISTIANS"...
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
John "Melchizedek & Free Gift" Loiodice: SPNAKED! Wed, 28 Mar 2007
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"I'm one tough gazookas that hates all palookas
~ that ain't on the up and square.
I biffs 'em and buffs 'em and always out-roughs 'em
~ and none of 'em gets nowhere.
So keep good behavior, it's your one lifesaver,
~ with Popeye the Sailor Man." - Popeye - God of the 7 Seas
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| User: "BoliviaMan" |
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30 Mar 2007 01:28:50 PM |
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"St. Jackanapes" <larry_jackowski@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:qevbs.dd.19.15@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, BoliviaMan said...
"stumper" <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in message news:M4SdndzL8rmBD5TbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@ptd.net...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
PLONK!
LOL! Larry Jackowski has kill-filed a fellow Atheist! Bwaaa-haaa-haaa! That
right there is a perfect example why Jesus is not god. If Jesus were
what Christians claim him to be, the world would be much more simpler.
Upon learning about Jesus and accepting him into their 'hearts" and upon
communing with his "voice" - a sort of radio broadcast that all
Christians claim that they can tune into - they would all be on the same
page.
The Christian church would still not be ripping itself to shreds after
2000 years of bitter acrimony, slaughter and death over Xian theology.
There would be no Christians saying, "Well, he's not a True Christian!"
when they speak of other sects, or just anyone they don't like at the
moment.
Why is this "radio broadcast" from Jesus so devisive? Why does he tell
Jerry Falwell one things and Louis Farrakhan's another?? Why do
Christians hate their fellow Jesus lovers to the point of massive
slaughter. What of the slaughter and plague from the 30 Years War in
Europe between the Catholics & Protestants? Oh, I already know the
answer! They weren't "TRUE CHRISTIANS"...
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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30 Mar 2007 12:53:54 AM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, stumper said...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
Yeah, some stupid mumbo-jumbo ***** that Xians came up with to try and
explain why God's been AWOL since biblical times. It doesn't work.
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
John "Melchizedek & Free Gift" Loiodice: SPNAKED! Wed, 28 Mar 2007
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WEBSITE:http://www.jackanapes.ws FORUM:http://www.voy.com/20630/
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"I'm one tough gazookas that hates all palookas
~ that ain't on the up and square.
I biffs 'em and buffs 'em and always out-roughs 'em
~ and none of 'em gets nowhere.
So keep good behavior, it's your one lifesaver,
~ with Popeye the Sailor Man." - Popeye - God of the 7 Seas
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30 Mar 2007 01:06:17 AM |
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St. Jackanapes wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, stumper said...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
Yeah, some stupid mumbo-jumbo ***** that Xians came up with to try and
explain why God's been AWOL since biblical times. It doesn't work.
It just means God is never what we think it is.
--
~Stumper
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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| Title: Re: God is never what we think it is |
30 Mar 2007 11:44:55 AM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, stumper said...
St. Jackanapes wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, stumper said...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
Yeah, some stupid mumbo-jumbo ***** that Xians came up with to try and
explain why God's been AWOL since biblical times. It doesn't work.
It just means God is never what we think it is.
Yes, like thinking that he's real.
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
John "Melchizedek & Free Gift" Loiodice: SPNAKED! Wed, 28 Mar 2007
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WEBSITE:http://www.jackanapes.ws FORUM:http://www.voy.com/20630/
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"I'm one tough gazookas that hates all palookas
~ that ain't on the up and square.
I biffs 'em and buffs 'em and always out-roughs 'em
~ and none of 'em gets nowhere.
So keep good behavior, it's your one lifesaver,
~ with Popeye the Sailor Man." - Popeye - God of the 7 Seas
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: God is never what we think it is |
30 Mar 2007 02:56:02 AM |
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On Mar 30, 2:06 am, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
St. Jackanapes wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, stumper said...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
Yeah, some stupid mumbo-jumbo ***** that Xians came up with to try and
explain why God's been AWOL since biblical times. It doesn't work.
It just means God is never what we think it is.
You're the head gag writer for the Family Circus, aren't you?
You should have the family join Operation Rescue. Think of
the miles of possibilities.
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31 Mar 2007 09:54:00 PM |
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WRONG!
"God" is ALWAYS what a particular believer imagines he/she/it/they
is/are, every god being the creation of a particular believer. -- L.
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"God" is ALWAYS what a particular believer imagines he/she/it/they
is/are, every god being the creation of a particular believer. -- L.
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30 Mar 2007 06:17:36 AM |
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stumper tripped gaily down the garden path, and yelled:
St. Jackanapes wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, stumper said...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
Yeah, some stupid mumbo-jumbo ***** that Xians came up with to try and
explain why God's been AWOL since biblical times. It doesn't work.
It just means God is never what we think it is.
Your God: your problem. Your God is just a projection of your state of
mind, which is clearly not good, and requires professional intervention.
--
David Silverman AA#2208
Either religion goes, or civilisation will. It's that simple.
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27 Mar 2007 06:39:37 PM |
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On Mar 27, 5:52 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
Do you know what is an oxymoron?
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27 Mar 2007 09:35:48 PM |
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Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 5:52 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
Do you know what is an oxymoron?
Good for you.
That's exactly what I was shooting for.
God is too big to be confined to the way
people expect Him to exist.
God can exist and not-exist at will.
Possibly even at the same time.
So, in a way, atheism is correct.
God does not exist in the way
people usually expect it to be.
But God can also "exist" in the way
people have no idea what it means.
I don't believe in miracles or the supernatural.
So, I don't even try to find God that way.
But God definitely did something
through the historical Jesus.
I just don't know what it is yet.
So I look for the atheistic "God"
in the words and acts of Jesus.
Scientifically, of course.
--
~Stumper
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30 Mar 2007 12:54:54 AM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, stumper said...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 5:52 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
Do you know what is an oxymoron?
Good for you.
That's exactly what I was shooting for.
God is too big to be confined to the way
people expect Him to exist.
God can exist and not-exist at will.
Possibly even at the same time.
So, in a way, atheism is correct.
God does not exist in the way
people usually expect it to be.
But God can also "exist" in the way
people have no idea what it means.
I don't believe in miracles or the supernatural.
So, I don't even try to find God that way.
But God definitely did something
through the historical Jesus.
I just don't know what it is yet.
So I look for the atheistic "God"
in the words and acts of Jesus.
Scientifically, of course.
What a load of tripe.
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
John "Melchizedek & Free Gift" Loiodice: SPNAKED! Wed, 28 Mar 2007
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"I'm one tough gazookas that hates all palookas
~ that ain't on the up and square.
I biffs 'em and buffs 'em and always out-roughs 'em
~ and none of 'em gets nowhere.
So keep good behavior, it's your one lifesaver,
~ with Popeye the Sailor Man." - Popeye - God of the 7 Seas
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30 Mar 2007 01:08:44 AM |
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St. Jackanapes wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, stumper said...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 5:52 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
Do you know what is an oxymoron?
Good for you.
That's exactly what I was shooting for.
God is too big to be confined to the way
people expect Him to exist.
God can exist and not-exist at will.
Possibly even at the same time.
So, in a way, atheism is correct.
God does not exist in the way
people usually expect it to be.
But God can also "exist" in the way
people have no idea what it means.
I don't believe in miracles or the supernatural.
So, I don't even try to find God that way.
But God definitely did something
through the historical Jesus.
I just don't know what it is yet.
So I look for the atheistic "God"
in the words and acts of Jesus.
Scientifically, of course.
What a load of tripe.
Don't worry too much about it.
I don't know what it is either.
"The kingdom of God is within us."
What does that mean?
--
~Stumper
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| User: "Unsaved White Trash" |
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30 Mar 2007 11:49:55 AM |
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"stumper" <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in message
news:r9qdnXuuMrHDNJHbnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@ptd.net...
St. Jackanapes wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, stumper said...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 5:52 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com>
wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham
killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people
have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the
planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another
example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
Do you know what is an oxymoron?
Good for you.
That's exactly what I was shooting for.
God is too big to be confined to the way
people expect Him to exist.
God can exist and not-exist at will.
Possibly even at the same time.
So, in a way, atheism is correct.
God does not exist in the way
people usually expect it to be.
But God can also "exist" in the way
people have no idea what it means.
I don't believe in miracles or the supernatural.
So, I don't even try to find God that way.
But God definitely did something
through the historical Jesus.
I just don't know what it is yet.
So I look for the atheistic "God"
in the words and acts of Jesus.
Scientifically, of course.
What a load of tripe.
Don't worry too much about it.
I don't know what it is either.
"The kingdom of God is within us."
What does that mean?
*PLONK*
--
~Stumper
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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30 Mar 2007 11:47:26 AM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, stumper said...
St. Jackanapes wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, stumper said...
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 5:52 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Mar 27, 2:31 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:14:01 -0400, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have no
problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
As you were just told - your god purportedly killed everyone on the planet,
save for one family.
To accept that every living human deserved to die, is just another example of
the inanity of christianity.
What makes you think it was God?
Of course it wasn't. It might just as well have been arch fiend
Simon Bar Sinister (literally, "Simon the *****") with his
uber-death ray, since he didn't exist, either.
Does God even exist?
Careful. That mustard seed worth of doubt could well snowball
into an avalanche of godless heathenism.
Have you heard about the atheistic God?
It's this simple.
God is powerful enough to exist and not exist at will.
As atheists just cannot believe in the theistic God,
God is now appearing to them as the atheistic God.
Do you know what is the atheistic God?
Do you know what is an oxymoron?
Good for you.
That's exactly what I was shooting for.
God is too big to be confined to the way
people expect Him to exist.
God can exist and not-exist at will.
Possibly even at the same time.
So, in a way, atheism is correct.
God does not exist in the way
people usually expect it to be.
But God can also "exist" in the way
people have no idea what it means.
I don't believe in miracles or the supernatural.
So, I don't even try to find God that way.
But God definitely did something
through the historical Jesus.
I just don't know what it is yet.
So I look for the atheistic "God"
in the words and acts of Jesus.
Scientifically, of course.
What a load of tripe.
Don't worry too much about it.
I don't know what it is either.
"The kingdom of God is within us."
What does that mean?
It means that one day you're going to have to excrete it into your
toilet bowl.
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
John "Melchizedek & Free Gift" Loiodice: SPNAKED! Wed, 28 Mar 2007
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WEBSITE:http://www.jackanapes.ws FORUM:http://www.voy.com/20630/
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"I'm one tough gazookas that hates all palookas
~ that ain't on the up and square.
I biffs 'em and buffs 'em and always out-roughs 'em
~ and none of 'em gets nowhere.
So keep good behavior, it's your one lifesaver,
~ with Popeye the Sailor Man." - Popeye - God of the 7 Seas
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26 Mar 2007 10:58:35 PM |
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stumper wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have
no problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
I agree.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Yes.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments are made of people.
What are the evidences that proves
that your government exists?
It spend my taxes?
What evidence do you have that you exist?
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| User: "stumper" |
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26 Mar 2007 11:36:51 PM |
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John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have
no problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
I agree.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Yes.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments are made of people.
What are the evidences that proves
that your government exists?
It spend my taxes?
What evidence do you have that you exist?
I think.
My self is just a working hypothesis.
Before we get to the blame game,
let's finish up the modes of existence.
What would you call the mode of existence
of something like your government?
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~Stumper
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| User: "Velvet Elvis" |
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27 Mar 2007 08:29:46 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:36:51 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have
no problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
I agree.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Yes.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments are made of people.
What are the evidences that proves
that your government exists?
It spend my taxes?
What evidence do you have that you exist?
I think.
Not based on anything you've said so far.
--
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Nothing fails like prayer
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27 Mar 2007 01:32:51 PM |
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Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:36:51 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have
no problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
I agree.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Yes.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments are made of people.
What are the evidences that proves
that your government exists?
It spend my taxes?
What evidence do you have that you exist?
I think.
Not based on anything you've said so far.
What does that supposed to mean?
Are you running out of things to think?
--
~Stumper
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| User: "Marcus" |
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27 Mar 2007 08:03:38 PM |
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"stumper" <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in message news:kZudneZ6mMXf_pTbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@ptd.net...
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:36:51 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many
people have no problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
I agree.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Yes.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments are made of people.
What are the evidences that proves
that your government exists?
It spend my taxes?
What evidence do you have that you exist?
I think.
Not based on anything you've said so far.
What does that supposed to mean?
Are you running out of things to think?
jackanapes me bro
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27 Mar 2007 02:03:06 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:32:51 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:36:51 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have
no problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
I agree.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Yes.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments are made of people.
What are the evidences that proves
that your government exists?
It spend my taxes?
What evidence do you have that you exist?
I think.
Not based on anything you've said so far.
What does that supposed to mean?
You can't seem to keep up with the most basic of dialog, can you?
Better go back to just asking questions. You're no good at answering them.
Are you running out of things to think?
There we go. Simple, mindless, inconsequential questions are definitely your
forte.
--
"And lo, Jesus did say unto the soldiers 'Not the OTHER hand.
Ow *****, that hurts! You assholes!' "
[2 Kinison 3:45]
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27 Mar 2007 02:22:16 PM |
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Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:32:51 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
Velvet Elvis wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:36:51 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have
no problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
I agree.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Yes.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments are made of people.
What are the evidences that proves
that your government exists?
It spend my taxes?
What evidence do you have that you exist?
I think.
Not based on anything you've said so far.
What does that supposed to mean?
You can't seem to keep up with the most basic of dialog, can you?
Better go back to just asking questions. You're no good at answering them.
Are you running out of things to think?
There we go. Simple, mindless, inconsequential questions are definitely your
forte.
It would be a miracle
if you manage to do the paradigm shift.
But I don't believe in miracles.
How about you?
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~Stumper
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
26 Mar 2007 11:49:33 PM |
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stumper wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
John Popelish wrote:
stumper wrote:
Does God do genocide?
No. A nonexistent being can't do genocide or anything else.
But lots of people believe that the god imagined by Abraham killed
everyone on Earth, except for a single family. So, many people have
no problem imagining a hypothetical genocidal god.
Wonderful.
I agree.
God don't do genocide.
People do.
Yes.
Governments don't do genocide.
People do.
Governments are made of people.
What are the evidences that proves
that your government exists?
It spend my taxes?
What evidence do you have that you exist?
I think.
My self is just a working hypothesis.
My illusion of self, also.
Before we get to the blame game,
let's finish up the modes of existence.
I have not brought up any blame.
What would you call the mode of existence
of something like your government?
Obscure and tangled, but occasionally useful and often
dangerous. Supposedly defined and limited by the
constitution, but always straining to exceed those bounds.
Paved public roads are a joy when I am on my motorcycle.
Private citizens do not pave public roads. People employed
by governments do. There are state and national parks near
here that I enjoy visiting. The Blue Ridge Parkway is one
of the best things the federal government ever accomplished,
with very little but cheap labor in the form of the CCC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Conservation_Corps
But, of course, the county, state and federal governments
are always hungry. Especially for power over citizens.
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