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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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21 Jan 2007 07:13:20 AM |
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Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: HIS creation of the universe. |
brother Melchizedek wrote:
"Father Haskell" wrote:
WhewAustralopithicus wrote:
"Father Haskell" wrote:
brother Melchizedek wrote:
"St. Jackanapes" wrote:
<snip>
Whack-A-Fundy
Squash a Liver!
50 Yard Bible Toss!
Oh goodie, a picnic. I'll bring the potato salad.
Melchy says he'll bring the goat.
FA talking to him/her self, huh ... :-)
Divine Design
"Only a rookie who knows nothing about science would say science takes away from faith. If you really study science, it will bring
you closer to God."
-James Tour, Nanoscientist
The astronomical evidence for God must be strong when atheistic physicists admit that "the universe exploded out of nothingness,"
and agnostic astronomers claim that "supernatural forces" were so at work in the beginning that scientists are led back to "a band
of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries" (see chapter 3). But the scientific evidence for God does not end with the
Cosmological Argument. For many, the precision with which the universe exploded into being provides even more persuasive evidence
for the existence of God.
This evidence, technically known as the Teleological Argument, derives its name from the Greek word telos, which means "design." The
Teleological Argument goes like this:
1. Every design had a designer.
2. The universe has highly complex design.
3. Therefore, the universe had a Designer.
Isaac Newton (1642-1727) implicitly confirmed the validity of the Teleological Argument when he marveled at the design of our solar
system. He wrote, "This most beautiful system of the sun, planets and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an
intelligent and powerful Being."?1? Yet it was William Paley (1743-1805) who made the argument famous by his commonsense assertion
that every watch requires a watchmaker. Imagine you're walking along in the woods and you find a diamond-studded Rolex on the
ground. What do you conclude is the cause of that watch: The wind and the rain? Erosion? Some combination of natural forces? Of
course not! There's absolutely no question in your mind that some intelligent being made that watch, and that some unfortunate
individual must have accidentally dropped it there.
Scientists are now finding that the universe in which we live is like that diamond-studded Rolex, except the universe is even more
precisely designed than the watch. In fact, the universe is specifically tweaked to enable life on earth-a planet with scores of
improbable and interdependent life-supporting conditions that make it a tiny oasis in a vast and hostile universe.
These highly precise and interdependent environmental conditions (which are called "anthropic constants") make up what is known as
the "Anthropic Principle." "Anthropic" comes from a Greek word that means "human" or "man." The Anthropic Principle is just a fancy
title for the mounting evidence that has many scientists believing that the universe is extremely fine-tuned (designed) to support
human life here on earth.
In this vast and hostile universe, we earthlings are much like astronauts who can survive only in the small confines of their
spaceship. Like a spaceship, our earth supports life as it hurls through lifeless space. But also like a spaceship, a slight change
or malfunction in any one of a number of factors-in either the universe or the earth itself-could fatally alter the narrowly defined
environmental conditions we need to survive.
Apollo 13, one of the most challenging and famed missions in the history of NASA, will help drive this point home. We're going spend
the next few pages aboard Apollo 13. And as we do, we'll point out some of the anthropic constants that make our lives possible.
1 Isaac Newton, "General Scholium," in Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy (1687) in Great Books of the Western World,
Robert M. Hutchins, ed. (Chicago: Encyclopedia Britannica, n.d.), 369.
Geisler, N. L., & Turek, F. (2004). I don't have enough faith to be an atheist (95). Wheaton, Ill.: Crossway Books.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to post this.
Laus Deo ! ! !
Let us continue to prayer for our dear friends and neighbors who have
been convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
For they are in danger of unwisely choosing to blaspheme the Holy
Spirit thereby becoming demons:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6f0944c007976167?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear brother Melchizedek whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" |
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| Title: Re: Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: HIS creation of the universe. |
21 Jan 2007 07:26:59 AM |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
brother Melchizedek wrote:
"Father Haskell" wrote:
WhewAustralopithicus wrote:
"Father Haskell" wrote:
brother Melchizedek wrote:
"St. Jackanapes" wrote:
<snip>
Whack-A-Fundy
Squash a Liver!
50 Yard Bible Toss!
Oh goodie, a picnic. I'll bring the potato salad.
Melchy says he'll bring the goat.
FA talking to him/her self, huh ... :-)
Divine Design
"Only a rookie who knows nothing about science would say science takes away from faith. If you really study science, it will bring
you closer to God."
-James Tour, Nanoscientist
The astronomical evidence for God must be strong when atheistic physicists admit that "the universe exploded out of nothingness,"
and agnostic astronomers claim that "supernatural forces" were so at work in the beginning that scientists are led back to "a band
of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries" (see chapter 3). But the scientific evidence for God does not end with the
Cosmological Argument. For many, the precision with which the universe exploded into being provides even more persuasive evidence
for the existence of God.
This evidence, technically known as the Teleological Argument, derives its name from the Greek word telos, which means "design." The
Teleological Argument goes like this:
1. Every design had a designer.
2. The universe has highly complex design.
3. Therefore, the universe had a Designer.
Isaac Newton (1642-1727) implicitly confirmed the validity of the Teleological Argument when he marveled at the design of our solar
system. He wrote, "This most beautiful system of the sun, planets and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an
intelligent and powerful Being."?1? Yet it was William Paley (1743-1805) who made the argument famous by his commonsense assertion
that every watch requires a watchmaker. Imagine you're walking along in the woods and you find a diamond-studded Rolex on the
ground. What do you conclude is the cause of that watch: The wind and the rain? Erosion? Some combination of natural forces? Of
course not! There's absolutely no question in your mind that some intelligent being made that watch, and that some unfortunate
individual must have accidentally dropped it there.
Scientists are now finding that the universe in which we live is like that diamond-studded Rolex, except the universe is even more
precisely designed than the watch. In fact, the universe is specifically tweaked to enable life on earth-a planet with scores of
improbable and interdependent life-supporting conditions that make it a tiny oasis in a vast and hostile universe.
These highly precise and interdependent environmental conditions (which are called "anthropic constants") make up what is known as
the "Anthropic Principle." "Anthropic" comes from a Greek word that means "human" or "man." The Anthropic Principle is just a fancy
title for the mounting evidence that has many scientists believing that the universe is extremely fine-tuned (designed) to support
human life here on earth.
In this vast and hostile universe, we earthlings are much like astronauts who can survive only in the small confines of their
spaceship. Like a spaceship, our earth supports life as it hurls through lifeless space. But also like a spaceship, a slight change
or malfunction in any one of a number of factors-in either the universe or the earth itself-could fatally alter the narrowly defined
environmental conditions we need to survive.
Apollo 13, one of the most challenging and famed missions in the history of NASA, will help drive this point home. We're going spend
the next few pages aboard Apollo 13. And as we do, we'll point out some of the anthropic constants that make our lives possible.
1 Isaac Newton, "General Scholium," in Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy (1687) in Great Books of the Western World,
Robert M. Hutchins, ed. (Chicago: Encyclopedia Britannica, n.d.), 369.
Geisler, N. L., & Turek, F. (2004). I don't have enough faith to be an atheist (95). Wheaton, Ill.: Crossway Books.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to post this.
Why would a just, wise and merciful god compel a person to post such
tawdry lies and tendentious nonsense? Teleology is a busted flush, look
the word 'redundancy' up in the dictionary, then look at the genome of
any living thing.
Tell us why you god-botherers always aim your so-called science at an
audience that they hope doesn't know any better?
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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| Title: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
21 Jan 2007 08:54:40 AM |
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Melchizedek wrote:
No defense is given concerning the existence of God.
No defence is possible, since there is no evidence of your god or any
other gods, and neither is it even possible to offer evidence, since,
by definition there can be no valid evidence. That means that your
entire belief system rests on a logical fallacy of argument from
special pleading.
<clunk> <gurgle>
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| User: "Mike" |
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16 Mar 2007 12:11:17 PM |
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"Pastor Kutchie" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1169391280.832283.205980@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Melchizedek wrote:
No defense is given concerning the existence of God.
No defence is possible, since there is no evidence of your god or any
other gods, and neither is it even possible to offer evidence, since,
by definition there can be no valid evidence. That means that your
entire belief system rests on a logical fallacy of argument from
special pleading.
<clunk> <gurgle>
You've got it wrong. God is Logic itself. He is complete and absolute
righteousness. He exists always, everywhere, and He knows all things.
Everything He does is always reasonable and just. And everything that
happens is under His control. If anything else were God, you would ask how
that stands to reason. So if reason is the final word on the subject, then
Reason is God. And God is Logic. So you cannot argue that there is no God,
for the mere act of presenting your argument asserts the existence of Logic
which is God.
More at:
http://www.sirus.com/users/mjake/godis.html
You might try reading the whole book. It goes into many reasons on how logic
will be manifested in the world.
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| User: "Unsaved White Trash" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
16 Mar 2007 11:57:52 AM |
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"Mike" <mjake@sirus.removethis.andthis.com> wrote in message
news:45fac1ad$0$30085$6d2eeca5@news.sirus.com...
"Pastor Kutchie" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1169391280.832283.205980@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Melchizedek wrote:
No defense is given concerning the existence of God.
No defence is possible, since there is no evidence of your god or any
other gods, and neither is it even possible to offer evidence, since,
by definition there can be no valid evidence. That means that your
entire belief system rests on a logical fallacy of argument from
special pleading.
<clunk> <gurgle>
You've got it wrong. God is Logic itself. He is complete and absolute
righteousness. He exists always, everywhere, and He knows all things.
Everything He does is always reasonable and just. And everything that
happens is under His control. If anything else were God, you would ask how
that stands to reason. So if reason is the final word on the subject, then
Reason is God. And God is Logic. So you cannot argue that there is no God,
for the mere act of presenting your argument asserts the existence of
Logic which is God.
More at:
http://www.sirus.com/users/mjake/godis.html
You might try reading the whole book. It goes into many reasons on how
logic will be manifested in the world.
So you're a self proclaimed idiot?
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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17 Mar 2007 01:22:43 AM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
"Pastor Kutchie" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1169391280.832283.205980@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Melchizedek wrote:
No defense is given concerning the existence of God.
No defence is possible, since there is no evidence of your god or any
other gods, and neither is it even possible to offer evidence, since,
by definition there can be no valid evidence. That means that your
entire belief system rests on a logical fallacy of argument from
special pleading.
<clunk> <gurgle>
You've got it wrong. God is Logic itself. He is complete and absolute
righteousness. He exists always, everywhere, and He knows all things.
Everything He does is always reasonable and just. And everything that
happens is under His control. If anything else were God, you would ask how
that stands to reason. So if reason is the final word on the subject, then
Reason is God. And God is Logic. So you cannot argue that there is no God,
for the mere act of presenting your argument asserts the existence of Logic
which is God.
More at:
http://www.sirus.com/users/mjake/godis.html
You might try reading the whole book. It goes into many reasons on how logic
will be manifested in the world.
Why waste my time? The time of the gods is soon to end. One last one to
kill. Christians can be thanked for killing off thousands around the
world. Now all we have to do is put that last one in a bottle and shoot
it into the heart of the sun.
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
An Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
---------------------------------------------------------------
MY SHITTY WEBSITE: http://www.jackanapes.ws
MOCK JESUS FORUM: http://www.voy.com/20630/
"Well, how would you like to have someone come along and pick
something off of you?" - Apple Tree - The Wizard of Oz
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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17 Mar 2007 08:32:37 PM |
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On Mar 17, 2:22 am, St. Jackanapes <865kqjs...@e5f46djman.com> wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
"Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1169391280.832283.205980@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Melchizedek wrote:
No defense is given concerning the existence of God.
No defence is possible, since there is no evidence of your god or any
other gods, and neither is it even possible to offer evidence, since,
by definition there can be no valid evidence. That means that your
entire belief system rests on a logical fallacy of argument from
special pleading.
<clunk> <gurgle>
You've got it wrong. God is Logic itself. He is complete and absolute
righteousness. He exists always, everywhere, and He knows all things.
Everything He does is always reasonable and just. And everything that
happens is under His control. If anything else were God, you would ask how
that stands to reason. So if reason is the final word on the subject, then
Reason is God. And God is Logic. So you cannot argue that there is no God,
for the mere act of presenting your argument asserts the existence of Logic
which is God.
More at:
http://www.sirus.com/users/mjake/godis.html
You might try reading the whole book. It goes into many reasons on how logic
will be manifested in the world.
Why waste my time? The time of the gods is soon to end. One last one to
kill. Christians can be thanked for killing off thousands around the
world. Now all we have to do is put that last one in a bottle and shoot
it into the heart of the sun.
http://www.satellite-links.co.uk/directory/glavkosmos.html
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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18 Mar 2007 08:17:26 PM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Father Haskell was questioned
when they said...
On Mar 17, 2:22 am, St. Jackanapes <865kqjs...@e5f46djman.com> wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
"Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1169391280.832283.205980@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Melchizedek wrote:
No defense is given concerning the existence of God.
No defence is possible, since there is no evidence of your god or any
other gods, and neither is it even possible to offer evidence, since,
by definition there can be no valid evidence. That means that your
entire belief system rests on a logical fallacy of argument from
special pleading.
<clunk> <gurgle>
You've got it wrong. God is Logic itself. He is complete and absolute
righteousness. He exists always, everywhere, and He knows all things.
Everything He does is always reasonable and just. And everything that
happens is under His control. If anything else were God, you would ask how
that stands to reason. So if reason is the final word on the subject, then
Reason is God. And God is Logic. So you cannot argue that there is no God,
for the mere act of presenting your argument asserts the existence of Logic
which is God.
More at:
http://www.sirus.com/users/mjake/godis.html
You might try reading the whole book. It goes into many reasons on how logic
will be manifested in the world.
Why waste my time? The time of the gods is soon to end. One last one to
kill. Christians can be thanked for killing off thousands around the
world. Now all we have to do is put that last one in a bottle and shoot
it into the heart of the sun.
http://www.satellite-links.co.uk/directory/glavkosmos.html
Great! Now we just need to start passing the hat.
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
An Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
---------------------------------------------------------------
MY SHITTY WEBSITE: http://www.jackanapes.ws
MOCK JESUS FORUM: http://www.voy.com/20630/
"Well, how would you like to have someone come along and pick
something off of you?" - Apple Tree - The Wizard of Oz
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| User: "Hatter" |
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16 Mar 2007 12:53:58 PM |
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On Mar 16, 1:11 pm, "Mike" <m...@sirus.removethis.andthis.com> wrote:
"Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1169391280.832283.205980@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Melchizedek wrote:
No defense is given concerning the existence of God.
No defence is possible, since there is no evidence of your god or any
other gods, and neither is it even possible to offer evidence, since,
by definition there can be no valid evidence. That means that your
entire belief system rests on a logical fallacy of argument from
special pleading.
<clunk> <gurgle>
You've got it wrong. God is Logic itself.
So he was invented by some Greek Philosphers?
He is complete and absolute righteousness.
So it is rigteous to create a world with disease that kill children.
Got it.
He exists always, everywhere, and He knows all things.
I don't see him. If he knows all thing then he would know what it
would take for me to beleive you.
Everything He does is always reasonable and just.
Tsunamis that kill hundreds of thousands are reasonable and just. Got
it.
And everything that happens is under His control.
Auchwitz was under his control. Got it.
If anything else were God, you would ask how that stands to reason.
I am asking how you came up with this bewildering reasoning.
So if reason is the final word on the subject, then Reason is God.
All Knowing, All Powerful, All Good. There is evil. Nope doesn't
reason at all.
And God is Logic.
No, logic is a system of check the internal validity of an argument.
So you cannot argue that there is no God,
for the mere act of presenting your argument asserts the existence of Logic
which is God.
Congradulations on the biggest Circulus in Demenstrado...ever. You win
the Faulty Logic Award!
Hatter
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| User: "Mike" |
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16 Mar 2007 07:15:46 PM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174067638.036535.220170@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 16, 1:11 pm, "Mike" <m...@sirus.removethis.andthis.com> wrote:
"Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1169391280.832283.205980@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Melchizedek wrote:
No defense is given concerning the existence of God.
No defence is possible, since there is no evidence of your god or any
other gods, and neither is it even possible to offer evidence, since,
by definition there can be no valid evidence. That means that your
entire belief system rests on a logical fallacy of argument from
special pleading.
<clunk> <gurgle>
You've got it wrong. God is Logic itself.
So he was invented by some Greek Philosphers?
No, they discovered that some overall principle (God/Logic) seems to control
the world so that all facts remain consistent with each other.
He is complete and absolute righteousness.
So it is rigteous to create a world with disease that kill children.
Got it.
Death is not the end. There's a heaven for those who believe.
He exists always, everywhere, and He knows all things.
I don't see him. If he knows all thing then he would know what it
would take for me to beleive you.
God is Logic. And the only results that can come from Logic is either true
or false. So God will create a distinction between right and wrong. And
there will come a heaven and hell to make His judgment clear. Some are
destined for hell. Be thankful I'm not God.
Everything He does is always reasonable and just.
Tsunamis that kill hundreds of thousands are reasonable and just. Got
it.
I suppose that would be just and right as creating them in the first place.
And everything that happens is under His control.
Auchwitz was under his control. Got it.
The only example I know of an innocent person who suffered a tragic end was
Christ, and He rose from the dead.
If anything else were God, you would ask how that stands to reason.
I am asking how you came up with this bewildering reasoning.
Did you read the stuff at the link?
So if reason is the final word on the subject, then Reason is God.
All Knowing, All Powerful, All Good. There is evil. Nope doesn't
reason at all.
He's not finished creating yet. This is only a work in progress.
And God is Logic.
No, logic is a system of check the internal validity of an argument.
The only reason the system of logical is relevant is because something is
insuring that facts remain consistent.
So you cannot argue that there is no God,
for the mere act of presenting your argument asserts the existence of
Logic
which is God.
Congradulations on the biggest Circulus in Demenstrado...ever. You win
the Faulty Logic Award!
Hatter
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
16 Mar 2007 09:25:52 PM |
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"Mike" <mjake@sirus.removethis.andthis.com> wrote in message
news:45fb2527$0$30076$6d2eeca5@news.sirus.com...
"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174067638.036535.220170@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 16, 1:11 pm, "Mike" <m...@sirus.removethis.andthis.com> wrote:
"Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1169391280.832283.205980@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Melchizedek wrote:
No defense is given concerning the existence of God.
No defence is possible, since there is no evidence of your god or any
other gods, and neither is it even possible to offer evidence, since,
by definition there can be no valid evidence. That means that your
entire belief system rests on a logical fallacy of argument from
special pleading.
<clunk> <gurgle>
You've got it wrong. God is Logic itself.
So he was invented by some Greek Philosphers?
No, they discovered that some overall principle (God/Logic) seems to
control the world so that all facts remain consistent with each other.
He is complete and absolute righteousness.
So it is rigteous to create a world with disease that kill children.
Got it.
Death is not the end. There's a heaven for those who believe.
He exists always, everywhere, and He knows all things.
I don't see him. If he knows all thing then he would know what it
would take for me to beleive you.
God is Logic. And the only results that can come from Logic is either true
or false. So God will create a distinction between right and wrong. And
there will come a heaven and hell to make His judgment clear. Some are
destined for hell. Be thankful I'm not God.
Everything He does is always reasonable and just.
Tsunamis that kill hundreds of thousands are reasonable and just. Got
it.
I suppose that would be just and right as creating them in the first
place.
And everything that happens is under His control.
Auchwitz was under his control. Got it.
The only example I know of an innocent person who suffered a tragic end
was Christ, and He rose from the dead.
If anything else were God, you would ask how that stands to reason.
I am asking how you came up with this bewildering reasoning.
Did you read the stuff at the link?
So if reason is the final word on the subject, then Reason is God.
All Knowing, All Powerful, All Good. There is evil. Nope doesn't
reason at all.
He's not finished creating yet. This is only a work in progress.
And God is Logic.
No, logic is a system of check the internal validity of an argument.
So god can be reduced to a formula devised by Mr. Boole.
Let us see this formula.
The only reason the system of logical is relevant is because something is
insuring that facts remain consistent.
I hope someone's paying the premiums on that policy :-)
FACT = that which can be proven.
Prove your god exists.
Prove that all of the myriad of other gods (Ra, Zeus, Wodin, Zoroastra,
Allah, The Invisible Pink Unicorn, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, etc.) do
not exist.
So you cannot argue that there is no God,
I can and I do.
You cannot argue that your god exists without providing unassailable proof.
Until you can provide that proof STFU.
for the mere act of presenting your argument asserts the existence of
Logic
which is God.
Congradulations on the biggest Circulus in Demenstrado...ever. You win
the Faulty Logic Award!
Hatter
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Mike" |
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17 Mar 2007 11:01:13 AM |
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"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote
And God is Logic.
So god can be reduced to a formula devised by Mr. Boole.
Let us see this formula.
The various studies of logic are methods to understand in abstraction how
God determines the facts in reality.
The only reason the system of logical is relevant is because something is
insuring that facts remain consistent.
I hope someone's paying the premiums on that policy :-)
God is forever faithful and true.
So you cannot argue that there is no God,
I can and I do.
You cannot argue that your god exists without providing unassailable
proof.
Until you can provide that proof STFU.
All the proof I need that there is some Almighty Power forcing all the facts
to comply with His Will is that all the facts in reality are consistent with
each other. If God is not the One doing that, then what is? Or are you
asserting that there is something totally illogical that definately exists?
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18 Mar 2007 06:45:45 PM |
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"Mike" <mjake@sirus.removethis.andthis.com> wrote in
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"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote
And God is Logic.
So god can be reduced to a formula devised by Mr. Boole.
Let us see this formula.
The various studies of logic are methods to understand in abstraction
how God determines the facts in reality.
The only reason the system of logical is relevant is because
something is insuring that facts remain consistent.
I hope someone's paying the premiums on that policy :-)
God is forever faithful and true.
So you cannot argue that there is no God,
I can and I do.
You cannot argue that your god exists without providing unassailable
proof.
Until you can provide that proof STFU.
All the proof I need that there is some Almighty Power forcing all the
facts to comply with His Will is that all the facts in reality are
consistent with each other.
Of course, numerous examples are to follow, yes?
I won't hold my breath...
--
Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Plonked by Fred Stone 03/17/2006
Denizen of Darkness #44
'72 Telecaster Thinline...
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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17 Mar 2007 11:15:27 PM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
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| User: "Mike" |
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18 Mar 2007 10:08:54 AM |
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"St. Jackanapes" <865kqjs676@e5f46djman.com> wrote in message
news:pf3up.qcj.17.7@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
And what's so special about that?
If God were to start doing miracles for those in science, then they would
not be scientists as we presently accept the term. They would be prophets.
No, it would seem to me that most people insist on being subject to
statistical accidents since they would be so astonished otherwise.
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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18 Mar 2007 08:30:00 PM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
"St. Jackanapes" <865kqjs676@e5f46djman.com> wrote in message
news:pf3up.qcj.17.7@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
And what's so special about that?
Because he can.
If God were to start doing miracles for those in science, then they would
not be scientists as we presently accept the term. They would be prophets.
No, it would seem to me that most people insist on being subject to
statistical accidents since they would be so astonished otherwise.
Why didn't he save that family that died horrifically in a house fire
last night? They were just poor people, and had nothing to do with
science.
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
An Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
---------------------------------------------------------------
MY SHITTY WEBSITE: http://www.jackanapes.ws
MOCK JESUS FORUM: http://www.voy.com/20630/
"Well, how would you like to have someone come along and pick
something off of you?" - Apple Tree - The Wizard of Oz
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| User: "Free Gift" |
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28 Mar 2007 08:17:05 AM |
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"St. Jackanapes" <865kqjs676@e5f46djman.com> wrote in message news:phejq.qcj.17.24@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
"St. Jackanapes" <865kqjs676@e5f46djman.com> wrote in message
news:pf3up.qcj.17.7@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
And what's so special about that?
Because he can.
If God were to start doing miracles for those in science, then they would
not be scientists as we presently accept the term. They would be prophets.
No, it would seem to me that most people insist on being subject to
statistical accidents since they would be so astonished otherwise.
Why didn't he save that family that died horrifically in a house fire
last night? They were just poor people, and had nothing to do with
science.
--
St. Jackanapes
Larry Jackowski, aka St. Jackanapes, said, I was having the seizures so
often that when they sat me down for an EEG, the guy running the machine
said "COOL! You just had a seizure right after I turned my machine on -
that almost never happens!" They were occurring in my right frontal cortex,
and at that location, it kept me from noticing them happening. I thought the
world had gone nuts. They kept asking me why I kept shaking and talking
to invisible people.
From that testimony, I'd say that Larry is the one whose is stupid, and
completely incompetent to talk about anybody being sub par, huh. He has
also admitted to I'll cheating on his wife, he has been soaked in sexual sin,
adultery, divorce, drunkenness, and just about everything else corrupt. He
is a model for the insane ward, by his own words! Let's apply the "Baker
Act" on dis fucker!
At the very least, he has let his (what left of it) hair down for all of us to see
him as he really is. He puts a very good mask on but he is not useful in any
respect! That's probably why he is always on the attack. He really is a
weak sub-human, (probably ask his x wife), and tries to offset this by being
tough up front. I now know what he really is!
Larry Jackowski, you are in need of continual help from a professional,
and I now really feel sorry for you! I probably will not be able to
attack you or ridicule you as I may have in the past, knowing just who and
you've have become. In comparison to your life, I am really blessed, and
I have to remind myself just how much! When I hear about Deb's life and
now LJ's life, my life has been filled with almost no tragedy, very little
corruption, and no adultery. My schooling and employment career has
allowed me to retire early and has for the most part comforting to know
I have been able to support me and my family independently,
and successfully, without physical or mental stress, unlike yours.
You DO need Jesus in your lives, as He Is your only hope.
P.S.
Premarital sex always endangers future marital happiness.
It follows as night follows day. Surveys have shown that
those who were sexually pure when they went to the marriage
altar have the greatest opportunity to have a happy marriage.
You can understand why. Suppose a man says to a woman
"I love you so much I just can't wait." He talks her into giving
in to his desires. Now think about a man who loves and respects
a woman by keeping her pure. Do you see the trust that builds?
God has a wonderful plan for you. Sex is so bad outside marriage
because it's so good inside marriage.
When I NOW say "Don't be a jackanapes!", it places a much
deeper meaning to it, knowing just what a real screw-up you have
made of your life.
The only explanation for such a horrendous life is what
Dr. Andrew Chung has said, that you and many others here
are not really in control, but you do have the "Spirit of ERROR"
a demon, from the enemy, Satan, indwelling within you.
- chow!
-- Sig
Don't be a jackanapes!
Use alias: St. Jackanapes as a basis for counterfeit.
These numbers a.a.#'s 0-9999 have been revoked, and are no longer in service.
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"Do not give dogs what is holy; and do not throw your
pearls before swine, lest they trample them under foot and
turn to attack you. "(Matthew 7:6 RSV)
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's
clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves." (Matthew 7:15 RSV)
Overview the Bible
http://76.162.173.93/bible-study/=CD-R=ltb-24/
There's no hurry?
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not yield to texts of Scripture, is to jeer and
flout him, for he cannot bear scorn."
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The Gospel of Matthew
http://76.162.173.93/bible-study/=CD-R=matthew-rv/
A Primer on Prophecy
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The Way - http://john-14-6.com/john-14-6.pdf
A Tribute to THE KING
http://bibleweb.info/public-a-tribute-to-the-king.pdf
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be
false teachers among you. They will secretly bring in destructive heresies,
even denying the Master who bought them, and will bring swift destruction
on themselves (2 Peter 2:1).
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| User: "Smiler" |
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28 Mar 2007 08:25:12 PM |
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"Free Gift" <fg@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:1175089344_6927@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
"St. Jackanapes" <865kqjs676@e5f46djman.com> wrote in message
news:phejq.qcj.17.24@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
"St. Jackanapes" <865kqjs676@e5f46djman.com> wrote in message
news:pf3up.qcj.17.7@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when
they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
And what's so special about that?
Because he can.
If God were to start doing miracles for those in science, then they
would
not be scientists as we presently accept the term. They would be
prophets.
No, it would seem to me that most people insist on being subject to
statistical accidents since they would be so astonished otherwise.
Why didn't he save that family that died horrifically in a house fire
last night? They were just poor people, and had nothing to do with
science.
--
St. Jackanapes
Larry Jackowski, aka St. Jackanapes, said,
When you quote Dr. Andrew Chung (AKA Chunky) as an authority, we all *know*
that you're as mad as a hatter, Free Git.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
28 Mar 2007 12:10:33 PM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Uber-stooge John "Free Gift" Loiodice said...
Larry Jackowski, aka St. Jackanapes
Let me quote John Loiodice...
"This person insists on using my real name in his posts, which I
see is a violation of the TOS. We can argue, etc. but when
someone uses the other persons real name and other real and
personal identity, that's a violation."
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
An Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
---------------------------------------------------------------
MY SHITTY WEBSITE: http://www.jackanapes.ws
MOCK JESUS FORUM: http://www.voy.com/20630/
"Well, how would you like to have someone come along and pick
something off of you?" - Apple Tree - The Wizard of Oz
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| User: "Melchizedek" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
28 Mar 2007 08:23:19 PM |
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"St. Jackanapes" <larry_jackowski@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:qat3l.dsr.17.21@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Uber-stooge Larry Jackowski said...
Larry Jackowski, aka St. Jackanapes
Let me quote
Nope!
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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18 Mar 2007 05:14:32 PM |
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On Mar 18, 12:15 am, St. Jackanapes <865kqjs...@e5f46djman.com> wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
Or the WTC. Surely, at least one of those 3,000 was praying
not to die.
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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18 Mar 2007 08:38:52 PM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Father Haskell was questioned
when they said...
On Mar 18, 12:15 am, St. Jackanapes <865kqjs...@e5f46djman.com> wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
Or the WTC. Surely, at least one of those 3,000 was praying
not to die.
Yeah, but there was a handful of atheists among them, condemning them
all. And lets not forget all the Muslims, Buddhists Sikhs, Baha'ists,
Jews, Shintoists, Janists, Zoroastrians, and other religions that offend
the nostrils of Christian God. Those folk were doomed just by working
with those infidels. Tsk tsk. The should have paid closer attention to
the Ten Commandments. You know, those Ten Commandments that say that
they are to have no other gods before GOD - - except Jesus, of course.
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
An Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
---------------------------------------------------------------
MY SHITTY WEBSITE: http://www.jackanapes.ws
MOCK JESUS FORUM: http://www.voy.com/20630/
"Well, how would you like to have someone come along and pick
something off of you?" - Apple Tree - The Wizard of Oz
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| User: "Free Gift" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
28 Mar 2007 08:16:32 AM |
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"St. Jackanapes" <865kqjs676@e5f46djman.com> wrote in message news:phf4e.qcj.17.25@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Father Haskell was questioned
when they said...
On Mar 18, 12:15 am, St. Jackanapes <865kqjs...@e5f46djman.com> wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
Or the WTC. Surely, at least one of those 3,000 was praying
not to die.
Yeah, but there was a handful of atheists among them, condemning them
all. And lets not forget all the Muslims, Buddhists Sikhs, Baha'ists,
Jews, Shintoists, Janists, Zoroastrians, and other religions that offend
the nostrils of Christian God. Those folk were doomed just by working
with those infidels. Tsk tsk. The should have paid closer attention to
the Ten Commandments. You know, those Ten Commandments that say that
they are to have no other gods before GOD - - except Jesus, of course.
--
St. Jackanapes
Larry Jackowski, aka St. Jackanapes, said, I was having the seizures so
often that when they sat me down for an EEG, the guy running the machine
said "COOL! You just had a seizure right after I turned my machine on -
that almost never happens!" They were occurring in my right frontal cortex,
and at that location, it kept me from noticing them happening. I thought the
world had gone nuts. They kept asking me why I kept shaking and talking
to invisible people.
From that testimony, I'd say that Larry is the one whose is stupid, and
completely incompetent to talk about anybody being sub par, huh. He has
also admitted to I'll cheating on his wife, he has been soaked in sexual sin,
adultery, divorce, drunkenness, and just about everything else corrupt. He
is a model for the insane ward, by his own words! Let's apply the "Baker
Act" on dis fucker!
At the very least, he has let his (what left of it) hair down for all of us to see
him as he really is. He puts a very good mask on but he is not useful in any
respect! That's probably why he is always on the attack. He really is a
weak sub-human, (probably ask his x wife), and tries to offset this by being
tough up front. I now know what he really is!
Larry Jackowski, you are in need of continual help from a professional,
and I now really feel sorry for you! I probably will not be able to
attack you or ridicule you as I may have in the past, knowing just who and
you've have become. In comparison to your life, I am really blessed, and
I have to remind myself just how much! When I hear about Deb's life and
now LJ's life, my life has been filled with almost no tragedy, very little
corruption, and no adultery. My schooling and employment career has
allowed me to retire early and has for the most part comforting to know
I have been able to support me and my family independently,
and successfully, without physical or mental stress, unlike yours.
You DO need Jesus in your lives, as He Is your only hope.
P.S.
Premarital sex always endangers future marital happiness.
It follows as night follows day. Surveys have shown that
those who were sexually pure when they went to the marriage
altar have the greatest opportunity to have a happy marriage.
You can understand why. Suppose a man says to a woman
"I love you so much I just can't wait." He talks her into giving
in to his desires. Now think about a man who loves and respects
a woman by keeping her pure. Do you see the trust that builds?
God has a wonderful plan for you. Sex is so bad outside marriage
because it's so good inside marriage.
When I NOW say "Don't be a jackanapes!", it places a much
deeper meaning to it, knowing just what a real screw-up you have
made of your life.
The only explanation for such a horrendous life is what
Dr. Andrew Chung has said, that you and many others here
are not really in control, but you do have the "Spirit of ERROR"
a demon, from the enemy, Satan, indwelling within you.
- chow!
-- Sig
Don't be a jackanapes!
Use alias: St. Jackanapes as a basis for counterfeit.
These numbers a.a.#'s 0-9999 have been revoked, and are no longer in service.
How to Spot a Counterfeit
http://76.162.173.93/guest/ar-mp3/ar-how-to-spot-a-counterfeit.mp3
"Do not give dogs what is holy; and do not throw your
pearls before swine, lest they trample them under foot and
turn to attack you. "(Matthew 7:6 RSV)
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's
clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves." (Matthew 7:15 RSV)
Overview the Bible
http://76.162.173.93/bible-study/=CD-R=ltb-24/
There's no hurry?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrmDWn6awMA
"The best way to drive out the devil, if he will
not yield to texts of Scripture, is to jeer and
flout him, for he cannot bear scorn."
Heaven & Hell
http://76.162.173.93/prophecy/=CD-R=heaven-and-hell/
The Gospel of Matthew
http://76.162.173.93/bible-study/=CD-R=matthew-rv/
A Primer on Prophecy
http://76.162.173.93//prophecy/=CD-R=prophecy-101-small-wmv
Born once, die twice. Born twice, die once.
Wisdom of a Lifetime - Audio MP3 Collection -
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/ftp-members-0002.html
The Last (5th) Horseman
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/ftp-members-0003.html
The Facts About Jesus, the Bible & the Afterlife
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/ftp-members-0004.html
The Way - http://john-14-6.com/john-14-6.pdf
A Tribute to THE KING
http://bibleweb.info/public-a-tribute-to-the-king.pdf
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be
false teachers among you. They will secretly bring in destructive heresies,
even denying the Master who bought them, and will bring swift destruction
on themselves (2 Peter 2:1).
Scriptural Christianity
http://76.162.173.93/guest/=CD-R=scriptural-christianity/
My Main Collection - http://Bibleweb.Info/
Maranatha!
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
28 Mar 2007 12:10:43 PM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Uber-stooge John "Free Gift" Loiodice said...
Larry Jackowski, aka St. Jackanapes
Let me quote John Loiodice...
"This person insists on using my real name in his posts, which I
see is a violation of the TOS. We can argue, etc. but when
someone uses the other persons real name and other real and
personal identity, that's a violation."
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
An Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
---------------------------------------------------------------
MY SHITTY WEBSITE: http://www.jackanapes.ws
MOCK JESUS FORUM: http://www.voy.com/20630/
"Well, how would you like to have someone come along and pick
something off of you?" - Apple Tree - The Wizard of Oz
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| User: "Melchizedek" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
28 Mar 2007 08:22:57 PM |
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"St. Jackanapes" <larry_jackowski@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:qat40.dsr.17.22@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Uber-stooge Larry Jackowski said...
Larry Jackowski, aka St. Jackanapes
Let me quote
Nope!
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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28 Mar 2007 11:46:18 AM |
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In article <1175089342_6925@sp6iad.superfeed.net> "Free Gift" <fg@invalid.com> writes:
"St. Jackanapes" <865kqjs676@e5f46djman.com> wrote in message news:phf4e.qcj.17.25@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Father Haskell was questioned
when they said...
On Mar 18, 12:15 am, St. Jackanapes <865kqjs...@e5f46djman.com> wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
Or the WTC. Surely, at least one of those 3,000 was praying
not to die.
Yeah, but there was a handful of atheists among them, condemning them
all. And lets not forget all the Muslims, Buddhists Sikhs, Baha'ists,
Jews, Shintoists, Janists, Zoroastrians, and other religions that offend
the nostrils of Christian God. Those folk were doomed just by working
with those infidels. Tsk tsk. The should have paid closer attention to
the Ten Commandments. You know, those Ten Commandments that say that
they are to have no other gods before GOD - - except Jesus, of course.
--
St. Jackanapes
Larry Jackowski, aka St. Jackanapes, said, I was having the seizures so
often that when they sat me down for an EEG, the guy running the machine
said "COOL! You just had a seizure right after I turned my machine on -
that almost never happens!" They were occurring in my right frontal cortex,
and at that location, it kept me from noticing them happening. I thought the
world had gone nuts. They kept asking me why I kept shaking and talking
to invisible people.
From that testimony, I'd say that Larry is the one whose is stupid, and
completely incompetent to talk about anybody being sub par, huh.
And yet... and yet, with all these alleged shortcomings, he somehow
has managed to bind you with so pround an obsession that you
are compelled, helpelss, to post this screed over and over
and over and over; some three dozen times now, isn't it?
-- cary
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
28 Mar 2007 08:29:05 PM |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:eue64q$7v9$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article <1175089342_6925@sp6iad.superfeed.net> "Free Gift"
<fg@invalid.com> writes:
"St. Jackanapes" <865kqjs676@e5f46djman.com> wrote in message
news:phf4e.qcj.17.25@news.alt.net...
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Father Haskell was
questioned
when they said...
On Mar 18, 12:15 am, St. Jackanapes <865kqjs...@e5f46djman.com> wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when
they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
Or the WTC. Surely, at least one of those 3,000 was praying
not to die.
Yeah, but there was a handful of atheists among them, condemning them
all. And lets not forget all the Muslims, Buddhists Sikhs, Baha'ists,
Jews, Shintoists, Janists, Zoroastrians, and other religions that
offend
the nostrils of Christian God. Those folk were doomed just by working
with those infidels. Tsk tsk. The should have paid closer attention to
the Ten Commandments. You know, those Ten Commandments that say that
they are to have no other gods before GOD - - except Jesus, of course.
--
St. Jackanapes
Larry Jackowski, aka St. Jackanapes, said, I was having the seizures so
often that when they sat me down for an EEG, the guy running the machine
said "COOL! You just had a seizure right after I turned my machine on -
that almost never happens!" They were occurring in my right frontal
cortex,
and at that location, it kept me from noticing them happening. I thought
the
world had gone nuts. They kept asking me why I kept shaking and talking
to invisible people.
From that testimony, I'd say that Larry is the one whose is stupid, and
completely incompetent to talk about anybody being sub par, huh.
And yet... and yet, with all these alleged shortcomings, he somehow
has managed to bind you with so pround an obsession that you
are compelled, helpelss, to post this screed over and over
and over and over; some three dozen times now, isn't it?
-- cary
And Free Git quotes Chunky as an authority.
That proves he's a complete loony.
Smiler,
The godless one
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19 Mar 2007 02:37:21 AM |
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On Mar 18, 9:38 pm, St. Jackanapes <865kqjs...@e5f46djman.com> wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Father Haskell was questioned
when they said...
On Mar 18, 12:15 am, St. Jackanapes <865kqjs...@e5f46djman.com> wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
Or the WTC. Surely, at least one of those 3,000 was praying
not to die.
Yeah, but there was a handful of atheists among them, condemning them
all. And lets not forget all the Muslims, Buddhists Sikhs, Baha'ists,
Jews, Shintoists, Janists, Zoroastrians, and other religions that offend
the nostrils of Christian God. Those folk were doomed just by working
with those infidels. Tsk tsk. The should have paid closer attention to
the Ten Commandments. You know, those Ten Commandments that say that
they are to have no other gods before GOD - - except Jesus, of course.
But wait. Didn't Sam Clemens say you could *still* have other gods
march
behind god, or side-by-side abreast with him?
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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25 Mar 2007 01:48:06 AM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell said...
On Mar 18, 9:38 pm, St. Jackanapes <865kqjs...@e5f46djman.com> wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Father Haskell was questioned
when they said...
On Mar 18, 12:15 am, St. Jackanapes <865kqjs...@e5f46djman.com> wrote:
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, the sobriety of Mike was questioned when they
said...
God is forever faithful and true.
Then why didn't he save the Space Shuttles?
Or the WTC. Surely, at least one of those 3,000 was praying
not to die.
Yeah, but there was a handful of atheists among them, condemning them
all. And lets not forget all the Muslims, Buddhists Sikhs, Baha'ists,
Jews, Shintoists, Janists, Zoroastrians, and other religions that offend
the nostrils of Christian God. Those folk were doomed just by working
with those infidels. Tsk tsk. The should have paid closer attention to
the Ten Commandments. You know, those Ten Commandments that say that
they are to have no other gods before GOD - - except Jesus, of course.
But wait. Didn't Sam Clemens say you could *still* have other gods
march
behind god, or side-by-side abreast with him?
Don't tell a Christian that.
--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
An Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
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MY SHITTY WEBSITE: http://www.jackanapes.ws
MOCK JESUS FORUM: http://www.voy.com/20630/
"Well, how would you like to have someone come along and pick
something off of you?" - Apple Tree - The Wizard of Oz
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: God rests on a logical fallacy. |
17 Mar 2007 06:26:53 PM |
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On Mar 17, 12:01 pm, "Mike" <m...@sirus.removethis.andthis.com> wrote:
"Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote
And God is Logic.
So god can be reduced to a formula devised by Mr. Boole.
Let us see this formula.
The various studies of logic are methods to understand in abstraction how
God determines the facts in reality.
The only reason the system of logical is relevant is because something is
insuring that facts remain consistent.
I hope someone's paying the premiums on that policy :-)
God is forever faithful and true.
So you cannot argue that there is no God,
I can and I do.
You cannot argue that your god exists without providing unassailable
proof.
Until you can provide that proof STFU.
All the proof I need that there is some Almighty Power forcing all the facts
to comply with His Will is that all the facts in reality are consistent with
each other. If God is not the One doing that, then what is? Or are you
asserting that there is something totally illogical that definately exists?
If this is Logic, show that it is NOT Circular. Its called begging the
question, gumbah.
Your entire argment rests on the assumption that the desired result is
true. Before making pronouncements about logic, read a logic book
Hatter
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| User: "Mike" |
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17 Mar 2007 08:21:33 PM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote
All the proof I need that there is some Almighty Power forcing all the
facts
to comply with His Will is that all the facts in reality are consistent
with
each other. If God is not the One doing that, then what is? Or are you
asserting that there is something totally illogical that definately
exists?
If this is Logic, show that it is NOT Circular. Its called begging the
question, gumbah.
Your entire argment rests on the assumption that the desired result is
true. Before making pronouncements about logic, read a logic book
No, a careful observation of the facts to date proves that there is
something making sure that they are all consistent and none denies another.
The fact that logical deduction is useful in confirming facts not yet
observed proves that nature is controlled by Logic. I choose to define this
logical something as God for the simple reason that it exists everywhere, at
all times, and controls all facts. How more simple can it be? Now I suggest
that you repent of your atheism and start asking yourself what the existent
of this God/Logic means to your life.
More at:
http://www.sirus.com/users/mjake/
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