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22 Mar 2006 02:16:20 PM |
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Proof that liberals are totally full of sh*t. |
Why does the liberal establishment object so vehemently to a "Conscience
Clause" for pharmacists. Why must these pharmacists be forced to sell wares
that will ultimately lead to killing a pre-born baby,( if their conscience
objects to such things ) Whatever became of the First Amendment? More info.
on the subject at this website:
http://www.pfli.org/main.php?pfli=conscienceclausefaq
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Proof that liberals are totally full of sh*t. |
23 Mar 2006 09:21:30 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:49:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<slk322dkp8iafrvqaq0pcun5bsldecop24@4ax.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> posting the following on Wed, 22 Mar 2006
15:16:20 -0500 iin alt.atheism?
Why does the liberal establishment object so vehemently to a "Conscience
Clause" for pharmacists. Why must these pharmacists be forced to sell wares
that will ultimately lead to killing a pre-born baby,( if their conscience
objects to such things ) Whatever became of the First Amendment? More info.
on the subject at this website:
OK, should a police officer be allowed to not investigate crimes
committed against Catholics if he is an Irish Protestant?
Shall a doctor be allowed to let people die if he's a Giants fan and
the patient is a star player for the Dodgers?
Pharmacists take an oath to dispense medications. Read their Code of
Ethics:
http://www.aphanet.org/pharmcare/ethics.html
III. A pharmacist respects the autonomy and dignity of each patient.
"A pharmacist promotes the right of self-determination and recognizes
individual self-worth by encouraging patients to participate in
decisions about their health. A pharmacist communicates with patients
in terms that are understandable. In all cases, a pharmacist respects
personal and cultural differences among patients."
Read that last sentence.
Oh, the First Amendment has never protected speech in the workplace.
If a telemarketer refused to lie could he be fired?
Never. Not in a single case that would apply. And this isn't a Free
Speech issue, nor is it Freedom of Religion. If your faith means you
cannot do your job, get another job.
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| User: "duke" |
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22 Mar 2006 05:10:38 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:49:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Why does the liberal establishment object so vehemently to a "Conscience
Clause" for pharmacists. Why must these pharmacists be forced to sell wares
that will ultimately lead to killing a pre-born baby,( if their conscience
objects to such things ) Whatever became of the First Amendment? More info.
on the subject at this website:
OK, should a police officer be allowed to not investigate crimes
committed against Catholics if he is an Irish Protestant?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Shall a doctor be allowed to let people die if he's a Giants fan and
the patient is a star player for the Dodgers?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Pharmacists take an oath to dispense medications. Read their Code of
Ethics:
But not to kill. In fact, their oath is dead set against injury to human life.
III. A pharmacist respects the autonomy and dignity of each patient.
And that includes unborn human life.
"A pharmacist promotes the right of self-determination and recognizes
individual self-worth by encouraging patients to participate in
decisions about their health. A pharmacist communicates with patients
in terms that are understandable. In all cases, a pharmacist respects
personal and cultural differences among patients."
Read that last sentence.
Oh, the First Amendment has never protected speech in the workplace.
Never. Not in a single case that would apply. And this isn't a Free
Speech issue, nor is it Freedom of Religion. If your faith means you
cannot do your job, get another job.
Or just refuse to dispense the killer pill.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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| Title: Re: Proof that liberals are totally full of sh*t. |
22 Mar 2006 09:31:01 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:o6m3229tc174jg8uaknb39rcil4lbijlq7@4ax.com...
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:49:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
If your faith means you cannot do your job, get another job.
Or just refuse to dispense the killer pill.
And relinquish your license.
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| User: "Attila" |
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23 Mar 2006 09:24:03 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:10:38 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<o6m3229tc174jg8uaknb39rcil4lbijlq7@4ax.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:49:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Why does the liberal establishment object so vehemently to a "Conscience
Clause" for pharmacists. Why must these pharmacists be forced to sell wares
that will ultimately lead to killing a pre-born baby,( if their conscience
objects to such things ) Whatever became of the First Amendment? More info.
on the subject at this website:
OK, should a police officer be allowed to not investigate crimes
committed against Catholics if he is an Irish Protestant?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Who decides what is 'wrong'?
Shall a doctor be allowed to let people die if he's a Giants fan and
the patient is a star player for the Dodgers?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Who decides what is 'wrong'?
Pharmacists take an oath to dispense medications. Read their Code of
Ethics:
But not to kill. In fact, their oath is dead set against injury to human life.
Yet most drugs will kill if used incorrectly.
III. A pharmacist respects the autonomy and dignity of each patient.
And that includes unborn human life.
No.
"A pharmacist promotes the right of self-determination and recognizes
individual self-worth by encouraging patients to participate in
decisions about their health. A pharmacist communicates with patients
in terms that are understandable. In all cases, a pharmacist respects
personal and cultural differences among patients."
Read that last sentence.
Irrelevant.
Oh, the First Amendment has never protected speech in the workplace.
Never. Not in a single case that would apply. And this isn't a Free
Speech issue, nor is it Freedom of Religion. If your faith means you
cannot do your job, get another job.
Or just refuse to dispense the killer pill.
And be fired on the spot for cause.
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23 Mar 2006 03:59:26 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:10:38 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:49:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Why does the liberal establishment object so vehemently to a "Conscience
Clause" for pharmacists. Why must these pharmacists be forced to sell wares
that will ultimately lead to killing a pre-born baby,( if their conscience
objects to such things ) Whatever became of the First Amendment? More info.
on the subject at this website:
OK, should a police officer be allowed to not investigate crimes
committed against Catholics if he is an Irish Protestant?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Shall a doctor be allowed to let people die if he's a Giants fan and
the patient is a star player for the Dodgers?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Pharmacists take an oath to dispense medications. Read their Code of
Ethics:
But not to kill. In fact, their oath is dead set against injury to human life.
III. A pharmacist respects the autonomy and dignity of each patient.
And that includes unborn human life.
"A pharmacist promotes the right of self-determination and recognizes
individual self-worth by encouraging patients to participate in
decisions about their health. A pharmacist communicates with patients
in terms that are understandable. In all cases, a pharmacist respects
personal and cultural differences among patients."
Read that last sentence.
Oh, the First Amendment has never protected speech in the workplace.
Never. Not in a single case that would apply. And this isn't a Free
Speech issue, nor is it Freedom of Religion. If your faith means you
cannot do your job, get another job.
Or just refuse to dispense the killer pill.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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Duke, I suppose you disapprove of appendectomy and tonsillectomy. And
how about circumcision? Isn't that removal and *destruction of living
tissue, therefore life? Oh, yes, how about cancer cells. They are
*alive, man! How about removal of diseased brain cells, which if done
on you would leave you with just air?
Have you ever sprayed insecticide? Have you ever set traps to kill
rodents? Have you ever swatted a fly? Hunted deer? Gone fishing? Do
you applaud Bush for killing massive amounts of people in Iraq? How
many did Slobodan Milosevic allegedly kill?
Your brain works like a well oiled machine. The gears are stripped,
engine blown and driveshaft bent. But it's well oiled.
Sunyata
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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22 Mar 2006 09:38:24 PM |
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duke wrote:
<snip to>
Or just refuse to dispense the killer pill.
What about the morning-after pill? You know, the one that _PREVENTS_
conception?
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| User: "Carl Kaufmann" |
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22 Mar 2006 11:05:17 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:49:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Why does the liberal establishment object so vehemently to a "Conscience
Clause" for pharmacists. Why must these pharmacists be forced to sell wares
that will ultimately lead to killing a pre-born baby,( if their conscience
objects to such things ) Whatever became of the First Amendment? More info.
on the subject at this website:
OK, should a police officer be allowed to not investigate crimes
committed against Catholics if he is an Irish Protestant?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Shall a doctor be allowed to let people die if he's a Giants fan and
the patient is a star player for the Dodgers?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Pharmacists take an oath to dispense medications. Read their Code of
Ethics:
But not to kill. In fact, their oath is dead set against injury to human life.
III. A pharmacist respects the autonomy and dignity of each patient.
And that includes unborn human life.
Only if the fetus brings in a prescription to be filled.
"A pharmacist promotes the right of self-determination and recognizes
individual self-worth by encouraging patients to participate in
decisions about their health. A pharmacist communicates with patients
in terms that are understandable. In all cases, a pharmacist respects
personal and cultural differences among patients."
Read that last sentence.
Oh, the First Amendment has never protected speech in the workplace.
Never. Not in a single case that would apply. And this isn't a Free
Speech issue, nor is it Freedom of Religion. If your faith means you
cannot do your job, get another job.
Or just refuse to dispense the killer pill.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "reality" |
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22 Mar 2006 05:24:14 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:49:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Why does the liberal establishment object so vehemently to a "Conscience
Clause" for pharmacists. Why must these pharmacists be forced to sell wares
that will ultimately lead to killing a pre-born baby,( if their conscience
objects to such things ) Whatever became of the First Amendment? More info.
on the subject at this website:
OK, should a police officer be allowed to not investigate crimes
committed against Catholics if he is an Irish Protestant?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Shall a doctor be allowed to let people die if he's a Giants fan and
the patient is a star player for the Dodgers?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Pharmacists take an oath to dispense medications. Read their Code of
Ethics:
But not to kill. In fact, their oath is dead set against injury to human life.
III. A pharmacist respects the autonomy and dignity of each patient.
And that includes unborn human life.
"A pharmacist promotes the right of self-determination and recognizes
individual self-worth by encouraging patients to participate in
decisions about their health. A pharmacist communicates with patients
in terms that are understandable. In all cases, a pharmacist respects
personal and cultural differences among patients."
Read that last sentence.
Oh, the First Amendment has never protected speech in the workplace.
Never. Not in a single case that would apply. And this isn't a Free
Speech issue, nor is it Freedom of Religion. If your faith means you
cannot do your job, get another job.
Or just refuse to dispense the killer pill.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
It's called doing your JOB as a chemist while on COMPANY TIME and being
PAID WELL to do it. Otherwise if they refuse to do their job, which is
dispensing pills, they should be FIRED.
Pharmacists are NOT doctors, and they should preach their "conscience"
***** on their OWN TIME.
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| User: "" |
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22 Mar 2006 11:45:47 PM |
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On 22 Mar 2006, "reality" <realitycheck@ausi.com> wrote:
It's called doing your JOB as a chemist while on COMPANY TIME and being
PAID WELL to do it. Otherwise if they refuse to do their job, which is
dispensing pills, they should be FIRED.
Pharmacists are NOT doctors, and they should preach their "conscience"
***** on their OWN TIME.
shut up, you effeminate little queerboy
hehe
you should be fired from your job as the official ***** sucker of your local
queer rights club
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| User: "John Baker" |
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23 Mar 2006 04:47:40 AM |
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On 23 Mar 2006 05:45:47 -0000, a@l.b wrote:
On 22 Mar 2006, "reality" <realitycheck@ausi.com> wrote:
It's called doing your JOB as a chemist while on COMPANY TIME and being
PAID WELL to do it. Otherwise if they refuse to do their job, which is
dispensing pills, they should be FIRED.
Pharmacists are NOT doctors, and they should preach their "conscience"
***** on their OWN TIME.
shut up, you effeminate little queerboy
hehe
you should be fired from your job as the official ***** sucker of your local
queer rights club
My, what an intelligent rebuttal.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Right at its finest.
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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24 Mar 2006 01:36:45 AM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:t1v422pk6vsa39q1agv4o6h8pureeb7608@4ax.com...
On 23 Mar 2006 05:45:47 -0000, a@l.b wrote:
On 22 Mar 2006, "reality" <realitycheck@ausi.com> wrote:
It's called doing your JOB as a chemist while on COMPANY TIME and being
PAID WELL to do it. Otherwise if they refuse to do their job, which is
dispensing pills, they should be FIRED.
Pharmacists are NOT doctors, and they should preach their "conscience"
***** on their OWN TIME.
shut up, you effeminate little queerboy
hehe
you should be fired from your job as the official ***** sucker of your
local
queer rights club
My, what an intelligent rebuttal.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Right at its finest.
No, you simply have one nut job.
Seems to be an awful lot of 'em in here, on both sides of the political
spectrum.
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| User: "reality" |
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23 Mar 2006 02:32:42 PM |
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John Baker wrote:
On 23 Mar 2006 05:45:47 -0000, a@l.b wrote:
On 22 Mar 2006, "reality" <realitycheck@ausi.com> wrote:
It's called doing your JOB as a chemist while on COMPANY TIME and being
PAID WELL to do it. Otherwise if they refuse to do their job, which is
dispensing pills, they should be FIRED.
Pharmacists are NOT doctors, and they should preach their "conscience"
***** on their OWN TIME.
shut up, you effeminate little queerboy
hehe
you should be fired from your job as the official ***** sucker of your local
queer rights club
My, what an intelligent rebuttal.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Right at its finest.
Gay lames are all that the ignorant right wing simpleton kooks such as
the one above have.
Their hero Bush is a perfect example.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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22 Mar 2006 05:44:10 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:49:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Why does the liberal establishment object so vehemently to a "Conscience
Clause" for pharmacists. Why must these pharmacists be forced to sell wares
that will ultimately lead to killing a pre-born baby,( if their conscience
objects to such things ) Whatever became of the First Amendment? More info.
on the subject at this website:
OK, should a police officer be allowed to not investigate crimes
committed against Catholics if he is an Irish Protestant?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Shall a doctor be allowed to let people die if he's a Giants fan and
the patient is a star player for the Dodgers?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Pharmacists take an oath to dispense medications. Read their Code of
Ethics:
But not to kill. In fact, their oath is dead set against injury to human life.
Which has nothing to do with the currently discussed case.
III. A pharmacist respects the autonomy and dignity of each patient.
And that includes unborn human life.
No, it does not, since the embryo/fetus is not the patient. The
pregnant woman is the patient.
"A pharmacist promotes the right of self-determination and recognizes
individual self-worth by encouraging patients to participate in
decisions about their health. A pharmacist communicates with patients
in terms that are understandable. In all cases, a pharmacist respects
personal and cultural differences among patients."
Read that last sentence.
Oh, the First Amendment has never protected speech in the workplace.
Never. Not in a single case that would apply. And this isn't a Free
Speech issue, nor is it Freedom of Religion. If your faith means you
cannot do your job, get another job.
Or just refuse to dispense the killer pill.
What "killer pill"? That can describe just about anything in the
pharmacy, including aspirin and vitamins. Any of them can kill you if
you are allergic to the medicine or the drug is misused.
RU486 is far safer than most of the things that the pharmacist
dispenses. Therefore, it is not a "killer pill", since the number of
patients killed by it are very low, both in absolute numbers and by any
rate measurement.
The phramacists should not refuse to fulfill a legal prescription
unless he or she can show that doing so is likely to cause an adverse
drug reaction or allegic reaction in the patient for whom the
prescription was prescribed. And such potential reactions can be
checked by other pharmacists. What's more, the pharmacists, on finding
such a potential drug interaction, should be calling the prescribing
physician to get an alternative medication.
That is not the case here. The pharmacists is trying to impose his or
her personal beliefs onto the patient to the patient's detriment, and
in contravention to the patient's freedom of religion. And if the
pharmacist refuses to do his or her job, he or she should be fired.
Mark Sebree
duke, American-American
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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22 Mar 2006 09:33:10 PM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:49:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Why does the liberal establishment object so vehemently to a
"Conscience
Clause" for pharmacists. Why must these pharmacists be forced to sell
wares
that will ultimately lead to killing a pre-born baby,( if their
conscience
objects to such things ) Whatever became of the First Amendment? More
info.
on the subject at this website:
OK, should a police officer be allowed to not investigate crimes
committed against Catholics if he is an Irish Protestant?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Shall a doctor be allowed to let people die if he's a Giants fan and
the patient is a star player for the Dodgers?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
Pharmacists take an oath to dispense medications. Read their Code of
Ethics:
But not to kill. In fact, their oath is dead set against injury to
human life.
Which has nothing to do with the currently discussed case.
III. A pharmacist respects the autonomy and dignity of each patient.
And that includes unborn human life.
No, it does not, since the embryo/fetus is not the patient. The
pregnant woman is the patient.
"A pharmacist promotes the right of self-determination and recognizes
individual self-worth by encouraging patients to participate in
decisions about their health. A pharmacist communicates with patients
in terms that are understandable. In all cases, a pharmacist respects
personal and cultural differences among patients."
Read that last sentence.
Oh, the First Amendment has never protected speech in the workplace.
Never. Not in a single case that would apply. And this isn't a Free
Speech issue, nor is it Freedom of Religion. If your faith means you
cannot do your job, get another job.
Or just refuse to dispense the killer pill.
What "killer pill"? That can describe just about anything in the
pharmacy, including aspirin and vitamins. Any of them can kill you if
you are allergic to the medicine or the drug is misused.
RU486 is far safer than most of the things that the pharmacist
dispenses. Therefore, it is not a "killer pill", since the number of
patients killed by it are very low, both in absolute numbers and by any
rate measurement.
The phramacists should not refuse to fulfill a legal prescription
unless he or she can show that doing so is likely to cause an adverse
drug reaction or allegic reaction in the patient for whom the
prescription was prescribed. And such potential reactions can be
checked by other pharmacists. What's more, the pharmacists, on finding
such a potential drug interaction, should be calling the prescribing
physician to get an alternative medication.
That is not the case here. The pharmacists is trying to impose his or
her personal beliefs onto the patient to the patient's detriment, and
in contravention to the patient's freedom of religion. And if the
pharmacist refuses to do his or her job, he or she should be fired.
Mark Sebree
Would you please STOP making sense to people allergic to common sense and
logic?
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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22 Mar 2006 08:37:44 PM |
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in article o6m3229tc174jg8uaknb39rcil4lbijlq7@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 3/22/06 6:10 PM:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:49:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Why does the liberal establishment object so vehemently to a "Conscience
Clause" for pharmacists. Why must these pharmacists be forced to sell wares
that will ultimately lead to killing a pre-born baby,( if their conscience
objects to such things ) Whatever became of the First Amendment? More info.
on the subject at this website:
OK, should a police officer be allowed to not investigate crimes
committed against Catholics if he is an Irish Protestant?
One is about not killing, the other is not letting wrong overcome right.
How many people who kept wrong overcome right now spend all eternity
digging in garbage piles for their meals?
Paul
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| User: "-Alan aa#1608 BAAWA" |
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22 Mar 2006 03:14:38 PM |
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Would you object to a conscience clause for soldiers in Iraq? They
would be allowed to opt out of firing on enemy combatants if it
conflicted with their beliefs.
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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22 Mar 2006 09:25:06 PM |
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"-Alan aa#1608 BAAWA" <alhob@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Would you object to a conscience clause for soldiers in Iraq? They
would be allowed to opt out of firing on enemy combatants if it
conflicted with their beliefs.
In simplest terms, a soldier's job is to kill more bad guys than bad kill of
ours guys.
Soldiers understand that they are not training to play tiddlywinks.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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22 Mar 2006 11:04:16 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:25:06 -0800, "The Pervert"
<pervert12@spambad.yahoo.com> wrote:
"-Alan aa#1608 BAAWA" <alhob@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1143062078.619726.177380@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Would you object to a conscience clause for soldiers in Iraq? They
would be allowed to opt out of firing on enemy combatants if it
conflicted with their beliefs.
In simplest terms, a soldier's job is to kill more bad guys than bad kill of
ours guys.
In simplest terms, a pharmacist's job is to fill prescriptions. That
means any and all legal prescriptions, not just the ones that don't
run counter to the pharmacist's religious beliefs. If the dispensing
of any type of legally prescribed medication conflicts with one's
personal moral code, then perhaps it's time to consider another line
of work.
Soldiers understand that they are not training to play tiddlywinks.
Pharmacists understand that they're not training to be ministers.
Or at least most of them do.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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22 Mar 2006 11:10:43 PM |
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In article <cla422dirakirum91nf48u00g0b0ms9j88@4ax.com>, John Baker
<nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:25:06 -0800, "The Pervert"
<pervert12@spambad.yahoo.com> wrote:
"-Alan aa#1608 BAAWA" <alhob@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1143062078.619726.177380@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Would you object to a conscience clause for soldiers in Iraq? They
would be allowed to opt out of firing on enemy combatants if it
conflicted with their beliefs.
In simplest terms, a soldier's job is to kill more bad guys than bad kill of
ours guys.
In simplest terms, a pharmacist's job is to fill prescriptions. That
means any and all legal prescriptions, not just the ones that don't
run counter to the pharmacist's religious beliefs. If the dispensing
of any type of legally prescribed medication conflicts with one's
personal moral code, then perhaps it's time to consider another line
of work.
Furthermore, suppose a pharmacist believed amphetamines should be legal
to all. Should he be allowed to prescribe them without the burden of
following the law?
Soldiers understand that they are not training to play tiddlywinks.
Pharmacists understand that they're not training to be ministers.
Or at least most of them do.
There are nut cases in all professions, I guess. Most are professional
and leave their "pro-life" mentality at home. J Young and others
applaud those who are irresponsible.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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22 Mar 2006 09:13:51 PM |
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-Alan aa#1608 BAAWA wrote:
Would you object to a conscience clause for soldiers in Iraq? They
would be allowed to opt out of firing on enemy combatants if it
conflicted with their beliefs.
Or if an anti-theist doctor chose to not treat Pat Robertson if Pat had
to undergo surgery?
Or if a racist doctor chose to not treat a black man?
It's called "doing your job." If something about "your job" breaks your
moral code, then I suggest finding a new job. Otherwise, you're
negligent in your duties.
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| User: "" |
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22 Mar 2006 04:03:45 PM |
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-Alan aa#1608 BAAWA wrote:
Would you object to a conscience clause for soldiers in Iraq? They
would be allowed to opt out of firing on enemy combatants if it
conflicted with their beliefs.
I think this would be a great idea. Are you learning Arabic yet? Get a
head start and make sure you convert to Islam or they will tax you to
death.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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22 Mar 2006 08:34:21 PM |
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in article 1143065025.537022.56370@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com,
at wrote on 3/22/06 5:03 PM:
-Alan aa#1608 BAAWA wrote:
Would you object to a conscience clause for soldiers in Iraq? They
would be allowed to opt out of firing on enemy combatants if it
conflicted with their beliefs.
I think this would be a great idea. Are you learning Arabic yet? Get a
head start and make sure you convert to Islam or they will tax you to
death.
How much of your taxes has your Christian God paid for you?
Paul
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| User: "" |
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23 Mar 2006 12:09:05 PM |
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Paul Duca wrote:
in article 1143065025.537022.56370@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com,
at wrote on 3/22/06 5:03 PM:
-Alan aa#1608 BAAWA wrote:
Would you object to a conscience clause for soldiers in Iraq? They
would be allowed to opt out of firing on enemy combatants if it
conflicted with their beliefs.
I think this would be a great idea. Are you learning Arabic yet? Get a
head start and make sure you convert to Islam or they will tax you to
death.
How much of your taxes has your Christian God paid for you?
The Truth has been responsible for all of my income and my taxes and
everything else that I have ever had and ever will have. Without the
Truth, I would never be even capable of ever gaining a single penny to
pay for anything. It is a good thing that the Truth exists. Without the
Truth, you wouldn't even have the ability to ask the question you just
did. Where would we be if we had no Truth? What would we have if there
was no Truth? What would we be if there was no Truth? You should know
the answer to the question you asked, but because you have no idea what
the "Christian God" really is, you ask the wrong question based on the
wrong perception of the "Christian God", without knowing it. You would
be better off keeping God out of your conversation, because one
shouldn't use words he doesn't know the meaning of...but then, you
didn't know you didn't know that you didn't know. That is called a
multiple layered ignorance.
Paul
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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23 Mar 2006 10:49:43 PM |
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<> wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
How much of your taxes has your Christian God paid for you?
The Truth has been responsible for all of my income and my taxes and
everything else that I have ever had and ever will have.
Because you say so?
Without the
Truth, I would never be even capable of ever gaining a single penny to
pay for anything.
Why not?
It is a good thing that the Truth exists. Without the
Truth, you wouldn't even have the ability to ask the question you just
did.
Why not?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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24 Mar 2006 01:00:21 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
yarrido@aol.com <yarrido@aol.com> wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
How much of your taxes has your Christian God paid for you?
The Truth has been responsible for all of my income and my taxes and
everything else that I have ever had and ever will have.
Because you say so?
Without the
Truth, I would never be even capable of ever gaining a single penny to
pay for anything.
Why not?
If there was no truth, we could discover nothing because nothing would
be so. How could you run a business if you knew nothing at all?
Impossible. It is only because Truth exists that you are able to ask me
the qeustion you just did.
It is a good thing that the Truth exists. Without the
Truth, you wouldn't even have the ability to ask the question you just
did.
Why not?
See above.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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25 Mar 2006 12:26:32 AM |
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<> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
<> wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
How much of your taxes has your Christian God paid for you?
The Truth has been responsible for all of my income and my taxes and
everything else that I have ever had and ever will have.
Because you say so?
Without the
Truth, I would never be even capable of ever gaining a single penny to
pay for anything.
Why not?
If there was no truth, we could discover nothing because nothing would
be so.
Fallacy of the false dichotimy and equivocation.
You pretend that facts are the same as Truth, without justification,
and you assume that an absense of what you understand as Truth means
chaos.
How could you run a business if you knew nothing at all?
How can you run a business if you're not omniscient?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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24 Mar 2006 01:00:34 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
yarrido@aol.com <yarrido@aol.com> wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
How much of your taxes has your Christian God paid for you?
The Truth has been responsible for all of my income and my taxes and
everything else that I have ever had and ever will have.
Because you say so?
Without the
Truth, I would never be even capable of ever gaining a single penny to
pay for anything.
Why not?
If there was no truth, we could discover nothing because nothing would
be so. How could you run a business if you knew nothing at all?
Impossible. It is only because Truth exists that you are able to ask me
the question you just did.
It is a good thing that the Truth exists. Without the
Truth, you wouldn't even have the ability to ask the question you just
did.
Why not?
See above.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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25 Mar 2006 12:27:08 AM |
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<> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
<> wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
How much of your taxes has your Christian God paid for you?
The Truth has been responsible for all of my income and my taxes and
everything else that I have ever had and ever will have.
Because you say so?
Without the
Truth, I would never be even capable of ever gaining a single penny to
pay for anything.
Why not?
If there was no truth,
Equivocation.
You're pretending that Truth is the same as everyday facts.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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25 Mar 2006 02:20:07 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
yarrido@aol.com <yarrido@aol.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
yarrido@aol.com <yarrido@aol.com> wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
How much of your taxes has your Christian God paid for you?
The Truth has been responsible for all of my income and my taxes and
everything else that I have ever had and ever will have.
Because you say so?
Without the
Truth, I would never be even capable of ever gaining a single penny to
pay for anything.
Why not?
If there was no truth,
Equivocation.
You're pretending that Truth is the same as everyday facts.
Not me. On the contrary. Without Truth, there would be no facts. Facts
owe their existence to the truth. Therefore, your accusation is
baseless.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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25 Mar 2006 02:45:00 PM |
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<> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
<> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
<> wrote:
Paul Duca wrote:
How much of your taxes has your Christian God paid for you?
The Truth has been responsible for all of my income and my taxes and
everything else that I have ever had and ever will have.
Because you say so?
Without the
Truth, I would never be even capable of ever gaining a single penny to
pay for anything.
Why not?
If there was no truth,
Equivocation.
You're pretending that Truth is the same as everyday facts.
Not me. On the contrary. Without Truth, there would be no facts.
Because...?
Facts
owe their existence to the truth.
Or not.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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