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User: "Opus-"
Date: 19 Jan 2008 01:04:43 AM
Object: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-)
As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))
;-)
1. TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT
(1) God exists.
(2) If God exists, then if reason exists then
God exists.
(3) Reason exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
2. COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) If I say something must have a cause,
it has a cause.
(2) I say the universe must have a cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has a cause.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
3. ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) I define God to be X.
(2) Since I can conceive of X, X must exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
4. ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) God exists.
(2) Since God exists, God must be perfect.
(3) That which is perfect must exist.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
5. MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) God exists.
(2) God, existing, is either necessary or
unnecessary.
(3) God is not unnecessary, therefore God
must be necessary.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
6. TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) Check out that tree. Isn't it pretty?
(2) Therefore, God exists.
7. ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES
(1) My aunt Helen was most likely to die from
cancer.
(2) She didn't.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
8. MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Person X, a well-known atheist, was morally
inferior to the rest of us.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
9. MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking,
smoking, gambling,child-molesting, thieving,
murdering, bed-wetting *****.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
10. ARGUMENT FROM CREATION
(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is
true, and therefore God exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the
mental capacity to understand it; moreover,
to accept its truth would cause me to be
uncomfortable
(3) Therefore, God exists.
11. ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
(1) If there is no God then we're all going to die.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
12. ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1) [arbitrary passage from OT]
(2) [arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
13. ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to
explain the whole thing to you stupid atheists
-- it's too complicated for you to understand.
God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
14. ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE
(1) Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent
as you guys -- you're obviously very well read.
But I read the Bible, and nothing you say can convince
me that God does not exist. I feel him in my heart,
and you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into
your life. "For God so loved the world that he sent
his only begotten son into the world,that whosoever
believes in him shall not perish from the earth" John
3:16.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
15. ARGUMENT FROM BELIEF
(1) If God exists, then I should believe in Him.
(2) I believe in God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
16. ARGUMENT FROM INTIMIDATION
(1) See this bonfire?
(2) Therefore, God exists.
17. PARENTAL ARGUMENT
(1) My mommy and daddy told me that God exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
18. ARGUMENT FROM NUMBERS
(1) Millions and millions of people believe in God.
(2) They can't all be wrong, can they?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
19. ARGUMENT FROM ABSURDITY
(1) Maranathra!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
20. ARGUMENT FROM ECONOMY
(1) God exists, you bastards!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
21. IDIOT'S ARGUMENT (1)
(1) Ha ha ha.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
22. IDIOT'S ARGUMENT (2)
(1) I forgot to take my meds.
(2) Therefore, I AM CHRIST!!
(3) Therefore, God exists.
23. ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY
(1) Eric Clapton is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
24. ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY
(1) There is a website that successfully argues
for the existence of God.
(2) Here is the URL.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
25. ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY
(1) Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba
snurgleschnortz ping!
(2) No one has ever refuted (1).
(3) Therefore, God exists.
26. ARGUMENT FROM AMERICAN EVANGELISM
(1) Telling people that God exists makes me
filthy rich.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
27. EVANGELST'S ARGUMENT
(1) The Christian God exists.
(2) Therefore, all worldviews which don't assume
the Christian God's existence are false and
incomprehensible.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
28. ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (I)
(1) Atheists are spiritually blind.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
29. ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (II)
(1) God is love.
(2) Love is blind.
(3) Ray Charles is blind.
(4) Therefore, Ray Charles is God.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
30. ARGUMENT FROM FALLIBILITY
(1) Human reasoning is inherently flawed.
(2) Therefore, there is no reasonable way to
challenge a proposition.
(3) I propose that God exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
31. ARGUMENT FROM SMUGNESS
(1) God exists.
(2) I don't give a damn whether you believe
it or not; I have better things to
do than to try to convince you morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
32 ARGUMENT FROM MANIFESTATIONS
(1) If you turn your head sideways and squint a
little, you can see an image of
a bearded face in that tortilla.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
33. DRUNK'S ARGUMENT
(1) My toaster is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
34. ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPLETE DEVASTATION
(1) A plane crashed killing 143 passengers
and crew.
(2) But one child survived with only third-degree
burns.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
35. ARGUMENT FROM POSSIBLE WORLDS
(1) If things had been different, then things
would be different.
(2) That would be bad.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
36. ARGUMENT FROM SHEER WILL
(1) I DO believe in God! I DO believe in God!
I do I do I do I DO believe in God!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
37. ARGUMENT FROM NONBELIEF
(1) The majority of the world's population are
nonbelievers in Christianity.
(2) This is just what Satan intended.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
38. ARGUMENT FROM POST-DEATH EXPERIENCE
(1) Person X died an atheist.
(2) He now realizes his mistake.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
39. ARGUMENT FROM EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL
(1) God loves you.
(2) How could you be so heartless to not
believe in him?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
40. ARGUMENT FROM INCOHERENT BABBLE
(1) See that person spazzing on the church floor
babbling incoherently?
(2) That's how infinite wisdom reveals itself.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
41. OPRAH'S ARGUMENT (I)
(1) The human spirit exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
42. OPRAH'S ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Check out this video segment.
(2) Now how can anyone watch that and NOT
believe in God?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
43. CALVINISTIC ARGUMENT
(1) If God exists, then he will let me watch
you be tortured forever.
(2) I rather like that idea.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
44. ARGUMENT FROM CROCKERY
(1) Pots don't go around giving orders to the
potter.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
45. ARGUMENT FROM MASS PRODUCTION
(1) Barbie dolls were created.
(2) If Barbie dolls were created, then so were
trees.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
46. ARGUMENT FROM PAROCHIALISM
(1) God is everywhere.
(2) We haven't been everywhere to prove he's
not there.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
47. ARGUMENT FROM UPPERCASE ASSERTION
(1) GOD EXISTS! GET USED TO IT!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
48. ARGUMENT FROM INFINITE REGRESS
(1) Ask atheists what caused the Big Bang.
(2) Regardless of their answer, ask how
they know this.
(3) Continue process until the atheist admits
he doesn't know the answer to one
of your questions.
(4) You win!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
49. ARGUMENT FROM INCREDULITY
(1) How could God NOT exist, you bozo?
(2) Therefore, God exists.
50. ARGUMENT FROM HISTORY
(1) The Bible is true.
(2) Therefore, the Bible is historical fact.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
51. ARGUMENT FROM RESURRECTION
(1) Proof of God's existence will be available
when you rise bodily from your grave.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
52. ARGUMENT FROM BIOGENESIS
(1) Where did Adam come from, dummy?
(2) Therefore, God exists.
53. ARGUMENT FROM STEADFAST FAITH
(1) A lot of really cool people believed in God
their entire lives.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
54. ARGUMENT FROM LONELINESS
(1) Christians say that Jesus is their best friend.
(2) I'm lonely, and I want a best friend.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
55. ARGUMENT FROM ARGUMENTATION
(1) God exists.
(2) [atheist's counterargument]
(3) Yes he does.
(4) [atheist's counterargument]
(5) Yes he does!
(6) [atheist's counterargument]
(7) YES HE DOES!!!
(8) [atheist gives up and goes home]
(9) Therefore, God exists.
56. ARGUMENT FROM CREATIVE INTERPRETATION
(1) God is:
(a) The feeling you have when you look at a
newborn baby.
(b) The love of a mother for her child.
(c) That little still voice in your heart.
(d) Humankind's potential to overcome their
difficulties.
(e) How I feel when I look at a sunset.
(f) The taste of ice cream on a hot day.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
57. ARGUMENT FROM INSECURITY
(1) We have gone to absolutely berserk lengths to
establish that atheists are laughable morons.
(1.5)Actually, we did so in the hopes of curing
our own insecurities about theism -- but there's
no chance in hell we'll ever admit that.
(2) Therefore, atheists are laughable morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
58. ARGUMENT FROM SUPERIORITY
(1) If God does not exist, then I am an inferior being,
since I am not "special" in a cosmic sense.
(2) But I am superior. Because I am a Christian.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
59. ARGUMENT FROM PERFECTION
(1) If there are absolute moral standards, then
God exists.
(2) Atheists say that there are no absolute moral
standards.
(3) But that's because they don't want to admit to
being sinners.
(4) Therefore, there are absolute moral standards.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
60. ARGUMENT FROM HUMAN NECESSITY
(1) Atheists say that they don't need God.
(2) Which just goes to show that they need God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
61. ARGUMENT FROM HIDDEN LOGIC (I)
(1) Intellectually, I know that the existence of God
is impossible, or vastly improbable.
(2) But I must put on the appearance of being cool and
intellectual in front of my Christian apologist peers.
(3) Therefore, I must pretend that (1) is false.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
62. ARGUMENT FROM INDULGENCE
(1) Atheists like to think that they can control
their emotional desires.
(2) But they're atheists, so they can't.
(3) Therefore, atheists feel the need to indulge in
whatever they feel like without worrying about
committing sin.
(4) This just goes to show how they need God in their
lives.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
63. ARGUMENT FROM HATE
(1) Some atheists hate Christians and Christianity.
(2) That's why they don't believe in God.
(3) Pathetic, aren't they?
(4) Therefore, God exists.
64. ARGUMENT FROM JOE BLOW
(1) JOE BLOW says that God does not exist.
(2) But God does exist.
(3) Therefore, JOE BLOW cannot be accepted as an expert
on the matter,because he is wrong.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
65. ARGUMENT FROM EVIL SPIRITS
(1) I've just had contact with evil spirits.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
66. ARGUMENT FROM HIDDEN LOGIC (II)
(1) Atheists say that God doesn't exist.
(2) But they only say that because they want
to look cool and intellectual in front of their
peers.
(3) They don't fool me!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
67. ARGUMENT FROM INSANITY
(1) No sane person could have thought up Christianity
(2) Therefore, it must be true
(3) Therefore, God exists
68. THEIST'S ARGUMENT FROM LIMITED VOCABULARY
1) You use lots of big words.
2) Therefore, I cannot possibly be expected to
understand your refutation of my position.
3) Therefore, God exists.
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User: ""

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 19 Jan 2008 05:52:44 AM
61. THE EVOLUTIONARY ARGUMENT
(1) Infidels have inferior genes.
(2) It is better to have designed genes.
(3) Therefore God exist.
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User: "Jenny6833A"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 19 Jan 2008 01:17:45 AM
On Jan 19, 12:04=A0am, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))

;-)

1. TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT

(1) God exists.
(2) If God exists, then if reason exists then
=A0 =A0 God exists.
(3) Reason exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

<snip>
Most are cute. It was fun reading. It would have greater impact if
you'd run a speller before posting it.
:-)
Jenny
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User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 19 Jan 2008 07:40:23 AM
On Jan 19, 1:04 am, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))

["Arguments" snipped for brevity]
If that's all that the theists have, they're a pretty pathetic bunch!
Budikka
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User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 19 Jan 2008 04:50:16 PM
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:40:23 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
<budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

On Jan 19, 1:04 am, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))

["Arguments" snipped for brevity]

If that's all that the theists have, they're a pretty pathetic bunch!

Yes, and yes.
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 20 Jan 2008 07:35:38 AM
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:40:23 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
<budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

On Jan 19, 1:04 am, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))

["Arguments" snipped for brevity]

If that's all that the theists have, they're a pretty pathetic bunch!


Yes, and yes.

They were nothing new. The same old arguments
that had been disproved over and over and over....
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 21 Jan 2008 12:03:54 AM
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:35:38 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:40:23 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
<budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

On Jan 19, 1:04 am, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))

["Arguments" snipped for brevity]

If that's all that the theists have, they're a pretty pathetic bunch!


Yes, and yes.


They were nothing new. The same old arguments
that had been disproved over and over and over....

*One* day, it might end, (says the optimist in me)
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 21 Jan 2008 03:11:22 AM
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:35:38 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:40:23 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
<budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

On Jan 19, 1:04 am, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))

["Arguments" snipped for brevity]

If that's all that the theists have, they're a pretty pathetic bunch!


Yes, and yes.


They were nothing new. The same old arguments
that had been disproved over and over and over....


*One* day, it might end, (says the optimist in me)

I've asked several theists to come up with a new
idea or argument, since all the old ones had been
disproved so many times. They never write back.
And, they definitely can't stand to have Pascal's
Bloody Wager turned back on them.
.
User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 21 Jan 2008 05:45:28 PM
Michelle Malkin wrote:
<snip>

I've asked several theists to come up with a new
idea or argument, since all the old ones had been
disproved so many times. They never write back.
And, they definitely can't stand to have Pascal's
Bloody Wager turned back on them.

They are parrots. If they were actually interested in learning they would
find out about the ones they offer much less come up with a new one.
The argument from cause says that everything *must* have a cause, except
that not everything can have a cause...
Aquinas decided between an infinite number of causes and an un-caused cause
based on what he wanted. He called that god and science calls it the big
bang.
Science allows for both with the big bang and an infinite number of big
bangs.
Both are equal at the end of Aquinas' "proof". He goes on and on and on (or
so it seems) to show the properties of this god, the fundies don't.
.
User: "Christopher A.Lee"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 21 Jan 2008 06:17:31 PM
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:45:28 -0800, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Michelle Malkin wrote:
<snip>

I've asked several theists to come up with a new
idea or argument, since all the old ones had been
disproved so many times. They never write back.
And, they definitely can't stand to have Pascal's
Bloody Wager turned back on them.


They are parrots. If they were actually interested in learning they would
find out about the ones they offer much less come up with a new one.

They're not here to learn but to tell us.
But if they had any intelligence they would use the single most
convincing argument/evidence/etc they had.
But for some reason they imagine quantity is more important than
quality.
Which is worthless.
Yet all it would take is one piece that convinces.
Which they obviously haven't got otherwise they would use it,

The argument from cause says that everything *must* have a cause, except
that not everything can have a cause...
Aquinas decided between an infinite number of causes and an un-caused cause
based on what he wanted. He called that god and science calls it the big
bang.
Science allows for both with the big bang and an infinite number of big
bangs.

Both are equal at the end of Aquinas' "proof". He goes on and on and on (or
so it seems) to show the properties of this god, the fundies don't.

.


User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 21 Jan 2008 05:16:44 PM
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:11:22 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:35:38 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:40:23 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
<budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

On Jan 19, 1:04 am, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))

["Arguments" snipped for brevity]

If that's all that the theists have, they're a pretty pathetic bunch!


Yes, and yes.


They were nothing new. The same old arguments
that had been disproved over and over and over....


*One* day, it might end, (says the optimist in me)


I've asked several theists to come up with a new
idea or argument, since all the old ones had been
disproved so many times.

As have I.

They never write back.

Some have "given it a go".
A few have responded with some cleverly disguised version of the same
old thing, but most are in denial that their pet argument has not been
heard of before.

And, they definitely can't stand to have Pascal's
Bloody Wager turned back on them.

I still cannot fathom why they even begin to think that it has any
worth whatsoever.
Less than 30 seconds thought reveals it's gaping holes.
Perhaps they have never given it any thought, and rely on the
rapturous reception that it gets from their fellow credubots?
.


User: "Don Martin"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 21 Jan 2008 08:42:52 AM
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:33:54 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:35:38 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:40:23 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
<budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

On Jan 19, 1:04 am, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))

["Arguments" snipped for brevity]

If that's all that the theists have, they're a pretty pathetic bunch!


Yes, and yes.


They were nothing new. The same old arguments
that had been disproved over and over and over....


*One* day, it might end, (says the optimist in me)

And just what, pray, has this rosy-eyed person been drinking?
aa #2278 If you can't be a dirty old man, what is the point of being an old man?
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 21 Jan 2008 05:13:30 PM
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:42:52 -0500, Don Martin
<drdonmartin@comcast.net> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:33:54 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:35:38 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:40:23 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
<budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

On Jan 19, 1:04 am, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))

["Arguments" snipped for brevity]

If that's all that the theists have, they're a pretty pathetic bunch!


Yes, and yes.


They were nothing new. The same old arguments
that had been disproved over and over and over....


*One* day, it might end, (says the optimist in me)


And just what, pray, has this rosy-eyed person been drinking?

South Australian Cabernet Sauvignon.
.
User: "Don Martin"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 22 Jan 2008 07:33:13 PM
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:43:30 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:42:52 -0500, Don Martin
<drdonmartin@comcast.net> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:33:54 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:35:38 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:40:23 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
<budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

On Jan 19, 1:04 am, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))

["Arguments" snipped for brevity]

If that's all that the theists have, they're a pretty pathetic bunch!


Yes, and yes.


They were nothing new. The same old arguments
that had been disproved over and over and over....


*One* day, it might end, (says the optimist in me)


And just what, pray, has this rosy-eyed person been drinking?


South Australian Cabernet Sauvignon.

Guaranteed to bring out the optimist in the most hardened skeptic?
aa #2278 If you can't be a dirty old man, what is the point of being an old man?
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: "Proofs" that have been used thru the ages. :-) 22 Jan 2008 10:52:09 PM
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:33:13 -0500, Don Martin
<drdonmartin@comcast.net> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:43:30 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:42:52 -0500, Don Martin
<drdonmartin@comcast.net> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:33:54 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:35:38 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:0lv4p3l8lnaueeh6cr4dhhbd9jf8l0mc3f@4ax.com...

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:40:23 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
<budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

On Jan 19, 1:04 am, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

As a public service,here are 60+ arguments/proofs for the
existence of God.(:-)))

["Arguments" snipped for brevity]

If that's all that the theists have, they're a pretty pathetic bunch!


Yes, and yes.


They were nothing new. The same old arguments
that had been disproved over and over and over....


*One* day, it might end, (says the optimist in me)


And just what, pray, has this rosy-eyed person been drinking?


South Australian Cabernet Sauvignon.


Guaranteed to bring out the optimist in the most hardened skeptic?

I would not go that far, but it "does something" for me, at least! ;)
You should try some.
Start with "Penfold's Grange Hermitage".
The older the better.
I, and others, consider it to be quite the best wine available in the
world.
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