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Topic:	Religions > Atheism
User:	"david ford"
Date:	19 Dec 2005 11:38:43 AM
Object:	proposal: kill all unfit human life

david ford wrote in "Re: Darwin was a racist.":

I "support infanticide," and support the killing of all unfit human life.

Fellow defenders of infanticide include the atheism-adherents James D.
Watson, Francis Crick, Peter Singer, Steven Pinker, Adolf Hitler, and
Ernst Haeckel.
Darwin
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135004225.246782.327080%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
In Sparta, also, a form of selection
was followed, for it was enacted that all children should
be examined shortly after birth; the well-formed and
vigorous being preserved, the others left to perish.
I propose the killing of disabled and all other unfit human lives, such
as Terri Schindler Schiavo.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125332830.051705.205450%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
not-PVS
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com
Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian a-moral climate
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
1868 Haeckel, 2003 Dawkins, 1997 George Williams, 1995 Dennett:
Darwinist atheists/ materialists downgrading the value of human life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-399aluF5uql89U1%40individual.net
Haeckel on killing the disabled
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3a8etdF65smnrU4%40individual.net
atheism-adherents Hitler & Haeckel parallels
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133410708.967895.276860%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132080322.482544.299440%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Taking a firm, godless stand for death
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0410291758.3dfffe4b%40posting.google.com
the secular religion of atheism has a bloody history
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121400956.627638.38960%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Reality supports the worldview philosophy of materialism/ atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net
.

User: "Augray"
Title: Re: "biomedical scientists" did 'science' in carrying out "Nazi racial programs"	21 Dec 2005 01:05:31 PM

On 21 Dec 2005 10:20:06 -0800, "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu>
wrote:

Augray wrote:

On 21 Dec 2005 09:32:11 -0800, "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu>
wrote:

Augray wrote in "Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life":

On 21 Dec 2005 07:28:52 -0800, "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu>
wrote:

Augray wrote:

On 20 Dec 2005 19:41:46 -0800, "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu>
wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

In <dford3-1135089066.992497.189410@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "david
ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

Geoff wrote:

"david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:dford3-1135030735.651666.326520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

John Baker wrote:

I propose we start with you.

Who else do you consider unfit human life?

Let's just go with that for now....thanks.

Do you consider the Irish unfit human life?

Do you consider Negroes unfit human life?

You still evade the question of what Darwin's personal opinions have to do
with the science.

What "science"?

Any "science".

Do you think the [Proctor]"biomedical scientists" referred to
here engaged in "science"?:

Is there reason to think that they did?

Definition: 'science' is what scientists do.

What's the source of this definition?

See below.

Therefore, the [Proctor]"biomedical scientists" referred to below
engaged in 'science.'

So, when a scientist takes a nap, that's 'science', is it? And when a
scientist does the dishes, or mows the lawn, that's 'science', right?
Or if a scientist beats his wife, that's 'science', correct? Can a
scientist ever *not* do science?

Do you want to stick with your ludicrous definition, or would you like
to try again?

"Do you [df] want to stick with your ludicrous definition"
Yes.

In other words, you think doing the dishes is science. This explains
much.

Elsberry, Wesley R. 1997. "Enterprising science needs naturalism"
This was written for the 1997 UT Austin conference on Naturalism,
Theism, and the Scientific Enterprise.
http://www.utexas.edu/cola/depts/philosophy/faculty/koons/ntse/papers/Elsberry.html
A paragraph:
Science is "what scientists do," or so opined Judge
Overton in his 1982 ruling in '_McLean vs. Arkansas_'
(Overton 1984, p.380). As a definition, it has the apparent
drawback of recursiveness. However, this formulation is
not necessarily recursive, if one avoids defining "scientist"
as "someone who does science". It still retains some of
the inscrutable character of fully recursive definitions, but
provides at least one important insight. That insight is that
science, as a method of study, is defined by its practice,
and not by edicts from on high.

In your case, the last sentence doesn't seem to have sunk in. However,
you might gain some insight from reading more of Overton's decision:
More precisely, the essential characteristics of science are:
(1) It is guided by natural law;
(2) It has to be explanatory by reference to nature law;
(3) It is testable against the empirical world;
(4) Its conclusions are tentative, i.e. are not necessarily the
final word; and
(5) Its is falsifiable. (Ruse and other science witnesses).
Now that this has been clarified for you, do you still think the
following is science? Or are you going to stick with your claim that
mowing the lawn is science?

Proctor, Robert N. 1988. _Racial Hygiene: Medicine under the Nazis_
(Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press), 414pp. On 6:
The published record of the German medical profession
makes it clear that many intellectuals cooperated fully in
Nazi racial programs, and that many of the social and
intellectual foundations for these programs were laid long
before the rise of Hitler to power. What I want to argue in
addition to this, however (and here I shall be drawing
upon a growing body of recent German scholarship on
this question) is that biomedical scientists played an
active, even leading role in the initiation, administration,
and execution of Nazi racial programs.

2004 Richard Weikart: "physicians... were committed to a racist
eugenics ideology that the Nazis favored"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407120310.7d3f3929%40posting.google.com

User: "John Baker"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life	20 Dec 2005 11:47:41 PM

On 20 Dec 2005 06:31:07 -0800, "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu>
wrote:

Geoff wrote:

"david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:dford3-1135030735.651666.326520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

John Baker wrote:

I propose we start with you.

Who else do you consider unfit human life?

Let's just go with that for now....thanks.

Do you consider the Irish unfit human life?

Do you consider Negroes unfit human life?

Answer the fucking question, Ford. What do Darwin's personal opinions
(which you don't know) have to do with the validity of his theories?
Provide a logical, coherent answer backed up by documented facts or
hie your idiotic ***** out of alt.atheism forever.
And if you don't leave of your own free will, I'll damn well see that
you do at the insistence of your ISP.
Fucking moron.
.

User: "david ford"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life	21 Dec 2005 09:56:33 AM

John Baker wrote:

On 20 Dec 2005 06:31:07 -0800, "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu>
wrote:

Geoff wrote:

"david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:dford3-1135030735.651666.326520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

John Baker wrote:

I propose we start with you.

Who else do you consider unfit human life?

Let's just go with that for now....thanks.

Do you consider the Irish unfit human life?

Do you consider Negroes unfit human life?

Answer the fucking question, Ford. What do Darwin's personal opinions
(which you don't know) have to do with the validity of his theories?

Darwin's racist "personal opinions" have absolutely _nothing_ "to do
with the validity [or invalidity] of his" racist theorizing.
Darwin on certain "distinct races" of humans being "distinct species"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134742746.958656.6900%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Darwin on correlation between human skin colour and odour
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135051524.767332.265230%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Darwin: [Greg]"the careless, squalid, unaspiring Irishman multiplies
like rabbits"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135088486.532238.194930%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
1871 Darwin: [CD]"the civilised races of man"-- e.g. [CD]"the
Caucasian"-- [CD]"will almost certainly exterminate and replace
throughout the world the savage races"-- e.g. [CD]"the negro or
Australian," as in Australian aborigine-- with the end result being
[CD]"man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, than the Caucasian"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407060404.711490be%40posting.google.com
Darwin: "the New Zealander... compares his future fate with that of the
native rat now almost exterminated by the European rat"
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/cd2dc1d948c6a3de

Provide a logical, coherent answer backed up by documented facts or
hie your idiotic ***** out of alt.atheism forever.

And if you don't leave of your own free will, I'll damn well see that
you do at the insistence of your ISP.

Fucking moron.

John, are you aware of any experimental evidence for these claims?:
Sagan, Carl. 1980. _Cosmos_ (NY: Random House), 365pp. Chapter
1's first line:
THE COSMOS IS ALL THAT IS OR EVER WAS OR EVER WILL BE.
Simpson, George Gaylord. 1949. _The Meaning of
Evolution: A Study of the History of Life and of Its
Significance for Man_ (New Haven: Yale University Press),
364pp., from the chapter "Epilogue and Summary" on 344:
Man is the result of a purposeless materialistic process
that did not have him in mind. He was not planned. He
is a state of matter, a form of life, a sort of animal, and a
species of the Order Primates, akin nearly or remotely to
all of life and indeed to all that is material.
On 343:
Although many details remain to be worked out, it is
already evident that all the objective phenomena of the
history of life can be explained by purely materialistic
factors.
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life	19 Dec 2005 12:49:00 PM

In <dford3-1135013923.429932.87740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "david
ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

I propose the killing of disabled and all other unfit human lives, such as
Terri Schindler Schiavo.

Still beating that dishonest drum are you now?
You know even the religious reich has run from that topic since the
autopsy found she had no brain to speak of. The woman had the right to a
peaceful end in the case that no recovery was possible. The courts were
right, you were wrong.
Deal.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
.

User: "Alan Morgan"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life	19 Dec 2005 08:24:57 PM

In article <dford3-1135013923.429932.87740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
david ford <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

david ford wrote in "Re: Darwin was a racist.":

I "support infanticide," and support the killing of all unfit human life.

Fellow defenders of infanticide include the atheism-adherents James D.
Watson, Francis Crick, Peter Singer, Steven Pinker, Adolf Hitler, and
Ernst Haeckel.

This would be the Stephen Pinker who said "Killing a baby is an
immoral act"? That one? Yes, I can see how that might be read
as an endorsement of infanticide. He was probably being ironic.
Yeah, that's it.
Alan
--
Defendit numerus
.

User: "bob"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life	19 Dec 2005 08:03:21 PM

On 19 Dec 2005 09:38:43 -0800, "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu>
wrote:

david ford wrote in "Re: Darwin was a racist.":

I "support infanticide," and support the killing of all unfit human life.

Fellow defenders of infanticide include the atheism-adherents James D.
Watson, Francis Crick, Peter Singer, Steven Pinker, Adolf Hitler, and
Ernst Haeckel.

Darwin

ford kinda forgets that, for 1900 years, xtians practiced slavery and
believed it to be god's will. the bloodiest war in american history
was an inter-christian war over slavery.
don't think pinker has that kind of influence.\\
and hitler was hardly an atheist
.

User: "Matthew Isleb"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life	19 Dec 2005 12:49:06 PM

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:38:43 -0800, david ford wrote:

david ford wrote in "Re: Darwin was a racist.":

I "support infanticide," and support the killing of all unfit human
life.

Fellow defenders of infanticide include the atheism-adherents James D.
Watson, Francis Crick, Peter Singer, Steven Pinker, Adolf Hitler, and
Ernst Haeckel.

<snip>
I love how half the links are to your own posts. It is like you know that
people didn't read them the first time but for some reason you think they
are going to read them when linked to from a similarly pointless post.
Is this how you turned in papers in school? Just one long bibliography,
half of which just references your other bibliographies?
-matthew
.

User: "jacob navia"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life	19 Dec 2005 05:34:28 PM

Proposal accepted.
Very GOOD idea: kill all unfit humans.
We could start right away with you.
.

User: "david ford"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life	19 Dec 2005 10:11:21 PM

jacob navia wrote:

Proposal accepted.

Very GOOD idea: kill all unfit humans.

We could start right away with you.

Who else do you consider unfit human life?
.

User: "david ford"
Title: ID in Japan	20 Dec 2005 02:20:02 PM

Someone A:
Recently I was talking to a research Doctor from Japan. I showed
him a few minutes of an ID film, explaining what ID was. He said that
in med school that his biology professor had read about ID, but didn't
believe it, but as he studied genetics he started to believe.
My friend from Japan said that when his biology professor told him, at
first he did not believe, but as he too studied genetics, he came to
the
conviction that there was some kind of intelligent intervention. He
also said that neither he nor his biology prof were religious.
Someone B:
You know, this is true for most of the medical students at == (and I
assume elsewhere). Even though most are not religious, they still
don't believe evolution can explain it all. They just don't go around
saying so. They know the emperor has no clothes, but have nothing to
gain by saying so.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"Japan"
Japanese authors of a paper quoted in
the panda's "thumb" argument
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0405181220.3a30b3b5%40posting.google.com
"They know the emperor has no clothes, but have nothing to gain by
saying so."
about Hsu
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96.980422000741.15045A-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
abstract of Hsu's "Darwin's three mistakes"; Hsu quoting Ernst Chain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96.980426214908.24131A-100000%40umbc10.umbc.edu
Hsu "almost tempted to join my colleague, Paul Feyerabend"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-35lfj3F4ojm7rU1%40individual.net
1999 Leigh: "creationists and antidarwinians are multiplying"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0406141942.49257583%40posting.google.com
godlessness in trouble: science, 'frauds' trigger decline in atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-38r8v3F5qkkv1U1%40individual.net
ID as a metaphysical research program
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129317540.779352.231140%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Reality vs. worldview philosophy of materialism/ atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net
.

User: "david ford"
Title: Re: ID in Japan	27 Dec 2005 12:45:11 PM

"A Japanese take on 'intelligent design'"
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/geted.pl5?eo20051226hs.htm
Extracts:
He then defined I.D. as "a theory that proposes to give up
explaining the making of this universe and the natural
world in terms of aimless, plan-less mechanical forces
alone," and to "recognize as science -- other than natural
factors like 'inevitability' (natural law) and 'coincidence' --
a 'design' factor."
==
Two of the day's foremost scientists, Thomas Huxley and
Joseph Hooker, vigorously defended Charles Darwin ==
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Darwin praise for Rolle, T.H. Huxley, Buchner, & Haeckel
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134766736.390460.205460%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
concept of "blindwatchmaking"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0401101006.38dc8f17%40posting.google.com
Reality vs. worldview philosophy of materialism/ atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net
.

User: "RetroProphet"
Title: Re: ID in Japan	27 Dec 2005 01:42:33 PM

On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net

Why are you proud of this?
.

User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
Title: Good babble dumbford.	21 Dec 2005 01:11:52 AM

Now give us any reason to believe that, purely by chance, this time you
_aren't_ lying for jebus.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
.

User: "Steamboat"
Title: Re: ID in Japan	20 Dec 2005 03:54:25 PM

On 20 Dec 2005 12:20:02 -0800, "david ford"
<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:
Someone A:
Recently I was talking to a research Doctor from
Japan. I showed
him a few minutes of an ID film, explaining what
ID was. He said that
in med school that his biology professor had read
about ID, but didn't
believe it, but as he studied genetics he started
to believe.
My friend from Japan said that when his biology
professor told him, at
first he did not believe, but as he too studied
genetics, he came to
the
conviction that there was some kind of intelligent
intervention. He
also said that neither he nor his biology prof
were religious.
Someone B:
You know, this is true for most of the medical
students at == (and I
assume elsewhere). Even though most are not
religious, they still
don't believe evolution can explain it all. They
just don't go around
saying so. They know the emperor has no clothes,
but have nothing to
gain by saying so.
Most medical students believe that ID is true? How
did you come about this remarkable conclusion.
Wouldn't be trying to lie as fanatics are so
inclined to do. Would you? Besides, ID died
today. Maybe you should read the obituaries.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"Japan"
Japanese authors of a paper quoted in
the panda's "thumb" argument
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0405181220.3a30b3b5%40posting.google.com
"They know the emperor has no clothes, but have
nothing to gain by
saying so."
about Hsu
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96.980422000741.15045A-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
abstract of Hsu's "Darwin's three mistakes"; Hsu
quoting Ernst Chain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96.980426214908.24131A-100000%40umbc10.umbc.edu
Hsu "almost tempted to join my colleague, Paul
Feyerabend"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-35lfj3F4ojm7rU1%40individual.net
1999 Leigh: "creationists and antidarwinians are
multiplying"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0406141942.49257583%40posting.google.com
godlessness in trouble: science, 'frauds' trigger
decline in atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-38r8v3F5qkkv1U1%40individual.net
ID as a metaphysical research program
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129317540.779352.231140%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Reality vs. worldview philosophy of materialism/
atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net
#
Anatole France: "The average man, who does
not know what to do with his life, wants
another one which will last forever."
#
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"
Title: Re: ID in Japan	20 Dec 2005 09:23:29 PM

In <59vgq1dn8p4t0djglod7r9nfvkotl2oiio@4ax.com>, Steamboat
<tulley@msn.com> wrote:

Somebody once said something to someone of course!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
.

User: "josephus"
Title: Re: ID in Japan	21 Dec 2005 01:58:34 AM

david ford wrote:

Someone A:
Recently I was talking to a research Doctor from Japan. I showed
him a few minutes of an ID film, explaining what ID was.

<snip>
David this is as BOGUS as your history. THERE IS NO ID to present.
Maybe did, maybe used, maybe result. That is ID. It does not even rise
up to a hypothesis or conjecture or THEORY. It is is a NIL result.
josephus
.

User: "Ken Shackleton"
Title: Re: ID in Japan	20 Dec 2005 06:18:31 PM

david ford wrote:

I call BS on that one! How can someone who is not religious accept the
ID position that some unseen, supernatural "creator" is responsible.
btw.....their names probably aren't Steve....so who cares!

Someone B:
You know, this is true for most of the medical students at == (and I
assume elsewhere). Even though most are not religious, they still
don't believe evolution can explain it all. They just don't go around
saying so. They know the emperor has no clothes, but have nothing to
gain by saying so.

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"Japan"
Japanese authors of a paper quoted in
the panda's "thumb" argument
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0405181220.3a30b3b5%40posting.google.com

"They know the emperor has no clothes, but have nothing to gain by
saying so."

about Hsu
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96.980422000741.15045A-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
abstract of Hsu's "Darwin's three mistakes"; Hsu quoting Ernst Chain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96.980426214908.24131A-100000%40umbc10.umbc.edu
Hsu "almost tempted to join my colleague, Paul Feyerabend"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-35lfj3F4ojm7rU1%40individual.net

1999 Leigh: "creationists and antidarwinians are multiplying"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0406141942.49257583%40posting.google.com

godlessness in trouble: science, 'frauds' trigger decline in atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-38r8v3F5qkkv1U1%40individual.net

ID as a metaphysical research program
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129317540.779352.231140%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

Reality vs. worldview philosophy of materialism/ atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net

User: "Ian H Spedding"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life	19 Dec 2005 12:11:22 PM

david ford wrote:

david ford wrote in "Re: Darwin was a racist.":

I "support infanticide," and support the killing of all unfit human life.

Of course, as a Christian you must follow the example and will of God:
Exodus
11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die,
from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even
unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill;
and all the firstborn of beasts.
12:29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote
all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh
that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in
the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.
Deuteromony
21:18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not
obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that,
when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
21:19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and
bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his
place;
21:20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son
is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a
glutton,
and a drunkard.
21:21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones,
that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and
all Israel shall hear, and fear.
[...]

Darwin
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135004225.246782.327080%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
In Sparta, also, a form of selection
was followed, for it was enacted that all children should
be examined shortly after birth; the well-formed and
vigorous being preserved, the others left to perish.

....which shows that "Social Darwinism" pre-dated Darwin by quite a few
centuries.
Ian
--
Ian H Spedding
.

User: "Thurisaz the Einherjer"
Title: dumbford: "must... lie... for... jebus..."	20 Dec 2005 12:45:20 AM

david ford wrote:

Fellow defenders of infanticide include the atheism-adherents James D.
Watson, Francis Crick, Peter Singer, Steven Pinker, Adolf Hitler, and
Ernst Haeckel.

Fellow liars for their death cult include ..., ..., dumbford, dorky,
laggy, ..., ...
Gee dumbford, if you had more than three working brain cells you'd realize
that we all know since a loooong time ago that you always babble lies. You
won't impress anyone. To use a comparison you can understand, it's like
talking to empty air (what you call "praying").
--
Romans 2:24 revised:
"For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you
cretinists, as it is written on aig."
.

User: "John Burton"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life (He forgot the Bible)	21 Dec 2005 09:03:53 PM

david ford wrote:

david ford wrote in "Re: Darwin was a racist.":

I "support infanticide," and support the killing of all unfit human life.

Fellow defenders of infanticide include the atheism-adherents James D.
Watson, Francis Crick, Peter Singer, Steven Pinker, Adolf Hitler, and
Ernst Haeckel.

Darwin
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135004225.246782.327080%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
In Sparta, also, a form of selection
was followed, for it was enacted that all children should
be examined shortly after birth; the well-formed and
vigorous being preserved, the others left to perish.

I propose the killing of disabled and all other unfit human lives, such
as Terri Schindler Schiavo.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125332830.051705.205450%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
not-PVS
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com

Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian a-moral climate
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

1868 Haeckel, 2003 Dawkins, 1997 George Williams, 1995 Dennett:
Darwinist atheists/ materialists downgrading the value of human life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-399aluF5uql89U1%40individual.net

Haeckel on killing the disabled
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3a8etdF65smnrU4%40individual.net

atheism-adherents Hitler & Haeckel parallels
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133410708.967895.276860%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132080322.482544.299440%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Taking a firm, godless stand for death
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0410291758.3dfffe4b%40posting.google.com

the secular religion of atheism has a bloody history
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121400956.627638.38960%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Reality supports the worldview philosophy of materialism/ atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net

Does religious genocide count? There's a lot of that in the Bible, along
with death penalties for things like wearing polyester. Why isn't that
stuff in your list? Do such things sanctify human life? How so?
John
.

User: "david ford"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life (He forgot the Bible)	21 Dec 2005 09:52:22 PM

John Burton wrote:

david ford wrote:

david ford wrote in "Re: Darwin was a racist.":

I "support infanticide," and support the killing of all unfit human life.

Fellow defenders of infanticide include the atheism-adherents James D.
Watson, Francis Crick, Peter Singer, Steven Pinker, Adolf Hitler, and
Ernst Haeckel.

Darwin
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135004225.246782.327080%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
In Sparta, also, a form of selection
was followed, for it was enacted that all children should
be examined shortly after birth; the well-formed and
vigorous being preserved, the others left to perish.

I propose the killing of disabled and all other unfit human lives, such
as Terri Schindler Schiavo.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125332830.051705.205450%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
not-PVS
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com

Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian a-moral climate
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

1868 Haeckel, 2003 Dawkins, 1997 George Williams, 1995 Dennett:
Darwinist atheists/ materialists downgrading the value of human life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-399aluF5uql89U1%40individual.net

Haeckel on killing the disabled
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3a8etdF65smnrU4%40individual.net

atheism-adherents Hitler & Haeckel parallels
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133410708.967895.276860%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132080322.482544.299440%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Taking a firm, godless stand for death
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0410291758.3dfffe4b%40posting.google.com

the secular religion of atheism has a bloody history
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121400956.627638.38960%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Reality supports the worldview philosophy of materialism/ atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net

Does religious genocide count?

What exactly is "religious genocide"?
Do you agree with me that there's such a thing as a 'secular religion'?
the courts on the secular religion of secular humanism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127528146.999596.314660%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
the secular religion of atheism has a bloody history
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121400956.627638.38960%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

There's a lot of that in the Bible, along
with death penalties for things like wearing polyester.

Supporting quotations?

Why isn't that
stuff in your list? Do such things sanctify human life? How so?

I'd need some details before I could attempt an answer.
.

User: "Deadrat"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life (He forgot the Bible)	22 Dec 2005 12:42:27 PM

"david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:dford3-1135223542.740227.297670@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

John Burton wrote:

david ford wrote:

david ford wrote in "Re: Darwin was a racist.":

I "support infanticide," and support the killing of all unfit human life.

Fellow defenders of infanticide include the atheism-adherents James D.
Watson, Francis Crick, Peter Singer, Steven Pinker, Adolf Hitler, and
Ernst Haeckel.

Darwin

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135004225.246782.327080%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

In Sparta, also, a form of selection
was followed, for it was enacted that all children should
be examined shortly after birth; the well-formed and
vigorous being preserved, the others left to perish.

I propose the killing of disabled and all other unfit human lives, such
as Terri Schindler Schiavo.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125332830.051705.205450%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

not-PVS

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com

Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian a-moral climate

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

1868 Haeckel, 2003 Dawkins, 1997 George Williams, 1995 Dennett:
Darwinist atheists/ materialists downgrading the value of human life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-399aluF5uql89U1%40individual.net

Haeckel on killing the disabled
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3a8etdF65smnrU4%40individual.net

atheism-adherents Hitler & Haeckel parallels

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133410708.967895.276860%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision

http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132080322.482544.299440%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Taking a firm, godless stand for death

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0410291758.3dfffe4b%40posting.google.com

the secular religion of atheism has a bloody history

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121400956.627638.38960%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Reality supports the worldview philosophy of materialism/ atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
On the Origin of Life
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39oh33F63riraU1%40individual.net

Does religious genocide count?

What exactly is "religious genocide"?

Killing off heretics (i.e., people whose religion is different from yours).
But you knew that.

Do you agree with me that there's such a thing as a 'secular religion'?

Is there such a thing as dry water? soft diamonds?

the courts on the secular religion of secular humanism

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127528146.999596.314660%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

the secular religion of atheism has a bloody history

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121400956.627638.38960%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

There's a lot of that in the Bible, along
with death penalties for things like wearing polyester.

Supporting quotations?

I think he's talking about the rule in Leviticus against wearing
clothing of mixed threads. So only cotton-poly blends would be
a problem.

Why isn't that
stuff in your list? Do such things sanctify human life? How so?

I'd need some details before I could attempt an answer.

User: "david ford"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life (He forgot the Bible)	22 Dec 2005 01:40:15 PM

Deadrat wrote:

"david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:dford3-1135223542.740227.297670@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

John Burton wrote:

david ford wrote:

david ford wrote in "Re: Darwin was a racist.":

I "support infanticide," and support the killing of all unfit human life.

Fellow defenders of infanticide include the atheism-adherents James D.
Watson, Francis Crick, Peter Singer, Steven Pinker, Adolf Hitler, and
Ernst Haeckel.

Darwin

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135004225.246782.327080%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125332830.051705.205450%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

not-PVS

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com

Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian a-moral climate

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133410708.967895.276860%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision

http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132080322.482544.299440%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Taking a firm, godless stand for death

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0410291758.3dfffe4b%40posting.google.com

the secular religion of atheism has a bloody history

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121400956.627638.38960%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Does religious genocide count?

What exactly is "religious genocide"?

Killing off heretics (i.e., people whose religion is different from yours).
But you knew that.

If an atheism-adherent goes around [D]"killing off heretics," would
that be [JB]"religious genocide"?
Vitz, Paul C. 1999. _Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of
Atheism_ (Dallas: Spence Publishing Company), 174pp., 105:
As a political leader, Stalin persecuted the
Orthodox Church in particular with great vigor; the
Communists murdered thousands of Orthodox
priests, often in gruesome ways.
the secular religion of atheism has a bloody history
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121400956.627638.38960%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
No true atheism-adherent would be a racist.
No true atheism-adherent would be an antisemite.
No true atheism-adherent would be an aggressive, unabashed pursuer of
sexual activity with animals.
No true atheism-adherent would be an aggressive, unabashed pursuer of
homosexual activity.
No true atheism-adherent would be a mass-murderer.
No true atheism-adherent would commit infanticide.
No true atheism-adherent would go around killing disabled persons.
No true atheism-adherent would be intolerant of adherents of
non-secular religions.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Alan Wolfe in _The New Republic_: "We ought never to forget that the
twentieth century's greatest American skeptic, H.L. Mencken, was an
ugly anti-Semite."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-39rvm4F63q0jrU1%40individual.net
H.L. Mencken in the 1910 _Men versus the Man: A Correspondence between
Robert Rives La Monte, Socialist, and H.L. Mencken, Individualist_,
29-30, cited in
http://www.thedarwinpapers.com/oldsite/number13/number13.html
I admit freely enough that, by careful breeding,
supervision of environment and education, extending
over many generations, it might be possible to make an
appreciable improvement in the stock of the American
negro, for example, but I must maintain that this
enterprise would be a ridiculous waste of energy, for
there is a high-caste white stock ready at hand, and it is
inconceivable that the negro stock, however carefully it
might be nurtured, could ever even remotely approach it.
The educated negro of today is a failure, not because he
meets insuperable difficulties in life, but because he is a
negro. He is, in brief, a low-caste man, to the manner
born, and he will remain inert and inefficient until fifty
generations of him have lived in civilization. And even
then, the superior white race will be fifty generations
ahead of him.
atheism-adherents Hitler & Haeckel parallels
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133410708.967895.276860%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler, Marx, and O'Hair in:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133186735.613068.108090%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin on selection of Spartan children
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135004225.246782.327080%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Terri Schindler Schiavo
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125332830.051705.205450%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
not-PVS
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
convert to secular humanism to enjoy guiltless sexual activity of many
varieties
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0409241109.17e2611d%40posting.google.com
Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian a-moral climate
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com

Do you agree with me that there's such a thing as a 'secular religion'?

Is there such a thing as dry water? soft diamonds?

"Is there such a thing as dry water?"
I'm aware of dry ice and liquid air.
"Is there such a thing as.... soft diamonds?"
Maybe in Little League baseball.

the courts on the secular religion of secular humanism

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127528146.999596.314660%40g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

the secular religion of atheism has a bloody history

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1121400956.627638.38960%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

There's a lot of that in the Bible, along
with death penalties for things like wearing polyester.

Supporting quotations?

I think he's talking about the rule in Leviticus against wearing
clothing of mixed threads. So only cotton-poly blends would be
a problem.

Supporting quotations?

Why isn't that
stuff in your list? Do such things sanctify human life? How so?

I'd need some details before I could attempt an answer.

User: "Cary Kittrell"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life (He forgot the Bible)	22 Dec 2005 01:52:33 PM

In article <dford3-1135280415.395844.43390@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> writes:

No true atheism-adherent would be a racist.
No true atheism-adherent would be an antisemite.
No true atheism-adherent would be an aggressive, unabashed pursuer of
sexual activity with animals.
No true atheism-adherent would be an aggressive, unabashed pursuer of
homosexual activity.
No true atheism-adherent would be a mass-murderer.
No true atheism-adherent would commit infanticide.
No true atheism-adherent would go around killing disabled persons.

Why should the devout have all the fun?
-- cary
.

User: "david ford"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life (He forgot the Bible)	22 Dec 2005 04:40:49 PM

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <dford3-1135280415.395844.43390@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> writes:

Why should the devout have all the fun?

I dunno. "The devout" adherents of Darwinianity can "have" lots and
lots of "fun":
convert to secular humanism to enjoy guiltless sexual activity of many
varieties
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0409241109.17e2611d%40posting.google.com
Taking a firm, godless stand for death
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0410291758.3dfffe4b%40posting.google.com
Hitler was an adherent of atheism and engaged in homosexual activity
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1129143372.689763.127020%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1128308336.450775.177530%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
2002 Allen Barra review of Machtan's _The Hidden Hitler_
http://www.salon.com/books/review/2002/01/14/machtan/
the atheism-adherent Hitler's actions are quite understandable
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1127506418.014874.230840%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
motivations for being a devout adherent of materialism and
Darwinianity;
1999 Paul Vitz on personal convenience; 2002 Benjamin Wiker
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-35qe6lF4orjsoU1%40individual.net
.

User: "Cary Kittrell"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life (He forgot the Bible)	22 Dec 2005 05:03:23 PM

In article <dford3-1135291249.548023.176350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <dford3-1135280415.395844.43390@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> writes:

Why should the devout have all the fun?

I dunno. "The devout" adherents of Darwinianity can "have" lots and
lots of "fun":

convert to secular humanism to enjoy guiltless sexual activity of many
varieties

I would certainly hope so. In fact, I'd extend that hope to
the devout as well, that they enjoy guiltless sexual activity
of many varieties.
Although if you find your fixation on Hitler creeping
into your own sex life, you might want to reflect
on this fascination.
-- cary
.

User: "david ford"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life (He forgot the Bible)	22 Dec 2005 07:44:17 PM

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <dford3-1135291249.548023.176350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <dford3-1135280415.395844.43390@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> writes:

Why should the devout have all the fun?

I dunno. "The devout" adherents of Darwinianity can "have" lots and
lots of "fun":

convert to secular humanism to enjoy guiltless sexual activity of many
varieties

I would certainly hope so. In fact, I'd extend that hope to
the devout as well, that they enjoy guiltless sexual activity
of many varieties.

Although if you find your fixation on Hitler creeping
into your own sex life, you might want to reflect
on this fascination.

Convert to atheism to enjoy guiltless medical activities and [T.H.
Huxley]"scientific" experimentation using other human life.
BTW, I've been taking another look at
Lifton, Robert Jay. 1986. _The Nazi Doctors: Medical Killing and the
Psychology of Genocide_ (NY: Basic Books, Inc., Publishers), 561pp.
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1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com
convert to secular humanism to enjoy guiltless sexual activity of many
varieties
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0409241109.17e2611d%40posting.google.com
Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Darwin on selection of Spartan children
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135004225.246782.327080%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin, T.H. Huxley, Haeckel, Trotha, Goebbels, Hitler, Marx, O'Hair
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133186735.613068.108090%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin praise for Rolle, T.H. Huxley, Buchner, & Haeckel
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134766736.390460.205460%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Haeckel on killing the disabled
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3a8etdF65smnrU4%40individual.net
Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian a-moral climate
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
1997 Wesley Smith on Germany's slide from devaluing some human life to
a little killing to mass killings
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3abe1cF6ac7t2U1%40individual.net
Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132080322.482544.299440%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Terri Schindler Schiavo
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125332830.051705.205450%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
not-PVS
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
any more atheism-adherents for Terri Schindler Schiavo's being starved
to death?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3adrlvF69l60hU1%40individual.net
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User: "Deadrat"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life (He forgot the Bible)	22 Dec 2005 09:57:19 PM

"david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:dford3-1135302256.982089.299600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <dford3-1135291249.548023.176350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "david ford"

<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <dford3-1135280415.395844.43390@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "david ford"

<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> writes:

<snip>

Terri Schindler Schiavo

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125332830.051705.205450%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

not-PVS

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Please update your medical posts to include the autopsy.

<snip>
Deadrat
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User: "Cary Kittrell"
Title: Re: proposal: kill all unfit human life (He forgot the Bible)	23 Dec 2005 11:15:10 AM

In article <zAKqf.208$UF3.75@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> "Deadrat" <ephemera1@sbcglobal.net> writes:

"david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:dford3-1135302256.982089.299600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <dford3-1135291249.548023.176350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "david ford"

<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <dford3-1135280415.395844.43390@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "david ford"

<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> writes:

<snip>

Terri Schindler Schiavo

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1125332830.051705.205450%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

not-PVS

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

Please update your medical posts to include the autopsy.

What? You weren't satisfied with Bill Frist's diagnosis via
remote viewing?
-- cary
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