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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Norwood Holden"
Date: 08 Feb 2005 03:02:10 PM
Object: Proposed Israeli law would ban Christian missionaries
"CNN - Proposed Israeli law would ban Christian missionaries"

From Jerusalem Bureau Chief Walter Rodgers

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- The dwindling number of Christians in the Holy Land
are
facing yet another threat. Militant Jews and Israelis are trying to
force
members of the religion from seeking converts in the country.
Most alarming to Christians is a newly proposed law that would let
authorities
jail anyone who shares Christian literature.
{vxtreme}CNN's Walter Rodgers reports from Jerusalem
"It could even include the New Testament because, after all, that is
certainly a
document Jesus would say, 'go out into the world and make disciples,'"
Pastor
Ray Lockhart of Christ's Church in Jerusalem says.
The proposed legislation is aimed at those who possess, print,
reproduce,
distribute, import, track or publicize information meant as an
inducement to
religious conversion.
{Zilli}"We are a Jewish state," explains Israeli Knesset member and
bill
co-sponsor Niffim Zilli. "We want to remain a Jewish state."
Much of the literature in a small Christian bookstore in Jerusalem
would be
outlawed by the legislation in its present form. Orthodox Jews already
visit the
store to harass customers, and there are fears that if the proposed
anti-missionary law passes, militants might try to close the shop.
"I see this as being quite contrary to human rights, particularly to
the right
of religious freedom and choice of religion," Lockhart says.
Zilli's reply: "Stop your missionary activity in Israel. Stop it!"
Christian Evangelical missions give free food to poor Orthodox Jews in
Jerusalem, and indigents line up to accept it.
"Some of Israel's best friends around the world come from the
Bible-believing
Christian communities. And if it is seen as though Israel or the
government is
opposing the people who have been the best friends of Israel, then
perhaps
support for it could run cold," Clarence Wagner of Bridges for Peace
said.
The legislation has cleared its first parliamentary hurdle. Prime
Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu strongly opposes it, but some believe it could pass
over his
objections, especially if Orthodox Jews decide to engage in
muscle-flexing.
Rabbi David Rosen of the Anti-Defamation League opposes the bill, but
admits
that democracy does not have deep roots in Israel.
"We are dealing with a society that is very fragile in terms of its own
self-confidence and its ability to function within the modern
democratic world,
and therefore you have to take that into consideration," Rosen says.
What is being waged is a cultural clash that opens centuries of old
wounds
between Jews and Christians. It is a struggle for souls, and the
Christians do
not have the upper hand.
.

User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Proposed Israeli law would ban Christian missionaries 09 Feb 2005 02:08:46 AM
On 8 Feb 2005 13:02:10 -0800 in alt.atheism, Norwood Holden ("Norwood
Holden" <norwood_holden@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism

"CNN - Proposed Israeli law would ban Christian missionaries"

[snip]

The legislation has cleared its first parliamentary hurdle. Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly opposes it, but some believe it could pass
over his objections, especially if Orthodox Jews decide to engage in
muscle-flexing.

Benjamin Netanyahu was Prime Minister from 1996 - 1999. Presumably
then, this report, if true, is really old, and nothing has come of it.
[snip]
.

User: "U2 Fan"

Title: Re: Proposed Israeli law would ban Christian missionaries 08 Feb 2005 04:08:59 PM
70ad again ?
.

User: "sanguinevikings"

Title: Re: Proposed Israeli law would ban Christian missionaries 09 Feb 2005 01:57:04 AM
Norwood Holden wrote:


What is being waged is a cultural clash that opens centuries of old
wounds
between Jews and Christians. It is a struggle for souls, and the
Christians do
not have the upper hand.

If they can't take their own medicine....
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Proposed Israeli law would ban Christian missionaries 11 Feb 2005 12:54:19 PM
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 07:57:04 +0000, sanguinevikings <spam@spam.not>
wrote:

Norwood Holden wrote:


What is being waged is a cultural clash that opens centuries of old
wounds
between Jews and Christians. It is a struggle for souls, and the
Christians do
not have the upper hand.


If they can't take their own medicine....

They can't.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Proposed Israeli law would ban Christian missionaries 11 Feb 2005 12:53:57 PM
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:54:19 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 07:57:04 +0000, sanguinevikings <spam@spam.not>
wrote:

Norwood Holden wrote:


What is being waged is a cultural clash that opens centuries of old
wounds
between Jews and Christians. It is a struggle for souls, and the
Christians do
not have the upper hand.


If they can't take their own medicine....


They can't.

Any religionist who treats the world as a "struggle for souls" is
sociopathic, intolerant, bigoted and stupid.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Proposed Israeli law would ban Christian missionaries 13 Feb 2005 01:04:33 PM
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:53:57 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:54:19 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 07:57:04 +0000, sanguinevikings <spam@spam.not>
wrote:

Norwood Holden wrote:


What is being waged is a cultural clash that opens centuries of old
wounds
between Jews and Christians. It is a struggle for souls, and the
Christians do
not have the upper hand.


If they can't take their own medicine....


They can't.


Any religionist who treats the world as a "struggle for souls" is
sociopathic, intolerant, bigoted and stupid.

contemptable, inhuman, uncompassionate, unempathic, dishonest, and
those are their good points. It goes downhill from there.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.




User: "Chadwick Stone©"

Title: Re: Proposed Israeli law would ban Christian missionaries 09 Feb 2005 09:02:13 PM
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"Norwood Holden" <norwood_holden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"CNN - Proposed Israeli law would ban Christian missionaries"

Why do you care, Dagwood? You're not a Christian.
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