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08 Nov 2006 08:55:49 PM |
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Proposition 85 did not pass |
http://www.ktvu.com/politics/5264134/detail.html
The good news is that Props 1-A, 1-B, 1-E & Props 83 & 90 all passed!
Also Props 86-89 all went down!
Prop 85 should also have passed, but it did not. But even it did pass,
its not like the state can stop the many irresponsible High School
girls from having kids and aborting on them. Many of the liberal
unsaved parents would support their decision to abort on the unborn
babies anyways. Heck I bet many of the "liberal Christians" thta are
all around this area would support abortion as well.
In the meantime you can help the fight against abortion by writing to
the unsaved people that run this organization.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/
225 San Antonio Rd
Mountain View, CA 94040
(650) 948-0807
Its not Biblical to bomb them, but its a good use of ones time and
resources to challenge these people with the facts.
Democrat Silencer
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 07:41:00 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptocl2l3ut475ibqforp58gk683rprff3s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not being
careful.
And they happen whether abortions are legal or not.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Watch where you stick that bacculum you're using to argue.
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 04:06:01 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
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Not if you don't have any, and you don't!!
Steve
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 10:36:23 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:41:00 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptocl2l3ut475ibqforp58gk683rprff3s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not being
careful.
And they happen whether abortions are legal or not.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Watch where you stick that bacculum you're using to argue.
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
"Argumentum ad baculum," moron. Look it up, if you can figure out how.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 11:28:16 PM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:7vki24-ct51.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:41:00 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptocl2l3ut475ibqforp58gk683rprff3s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not
being
careful.
And they happen whether abortions are legal or not.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Watch where you stick that bacculum you're using to argue.
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
"Argumentum ad baculum," moron. Look it up, if you can figure out how.
Wikipedia sums it up pretty good...
"One participates in this type of argument when one points out the dire
consequences of holding a contrary position."
I would say that fits you better than me with your constant babbling about
how all these women will die. If that's not a "dire consequence", I don't
know what is. Maybe you should have looked it up before you said that.
LOL
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 12:17:05 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:28:16 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:7vki24-ct51.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:41:00 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptocl2l3ut475ibqforp58gk683rprff3s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not
being
careful.
And they happen whether abortions are legal or not.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Watch where you stick that bacculum you're using to argue.
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
"Argumentum ad baculum," moron. Look it up, if you can figure out how.
Wikipedia sums it up pretty good...
"One participates in this type of argument when one points out the dire
consequences of holding a contrary position."
I would say that fits you better than me with your constant babbling about
how all these women will die. If that's not a "dire consequence", I don't
know what is. Maybe you should have looked it up before you said that.
LOL
"Dire consequence" to the holder of the opposite position, moron. Like
"answering to God," moron.
Apparently, in addition to your other faults, you have difficulty in
reading comprehension as well.
--
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Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 12:32:57 PM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:125k24-umj1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:28:16 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:7vki24-ct51.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:41:00 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptocl2l3ut475ibqforp58gk683rprff3s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to
be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not
being
careful.
And they happen whether abortions are legal or not.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Watch where you stick that bacculum you're using to argue.
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
"Argumentum ad baculum," moron. Look it up, if you can figure out how.
Wikipedia sums it up pretty good...
"One participates in this type of argument when one points out the dire
consequences of holding a contrary position."
I would say that fits you better than me with your constant babbling
about
how all these women will die. If that's not a "dire consequence", I don't
know what is. Maybe you should have looked it up before you said that.
LOL
"Dire consequence" to the holder of the opposite position, moron. Like
"answering to God," moron.
Apparently, in addition to your other faults, you have difficulty in
reading comprehension as well.
Since that's not how Wikipedia describes it, I'll stick with that.
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 02:29:46 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:32:57 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:125k24-umj1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:28:16 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:7vki24-ct51.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:41:00 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptocl2l3ut475ibqforp58gk683rprff3s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to
be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not
being
careful.
And they happen whether abortions are legal or not.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Watch where you stick that bacculum you're using to argue.
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
"Argumentum ad baculum," moron. Look it up, if you can figure out how.
Wikipedia sums it up pretty good...
"One participates in this type of argument when one points out the dire
consequences of holding a contrary position."
I would say that fits you better than me with your constant babbling
about
how all these women will die. If that's not a "dire consequence", I don't
know what is. Maybe you should have looked it up before you said that.
LOL
"Dire consequence" to the holder of the opposite position, moron. Like
"answering to God," moron.
Apparently, in addition to your other faults, you have difficulty in
reading comprehension as well.
Since that's not how Wikipedia describes it, I'll stick with that.
You'll believe anything as long as you think it'll support your position
and no matter whether or not it actually says what you think it does.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 02:38:21 PM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:qqck24-lqm1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:32:57 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:125k24-umj1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:28:16 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:7vki24-ct51.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:41:00 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptocl2l3ut475ibqforp58gk683rprff3s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to
be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not
being
careful.
And they happen whether abortions are legal or not.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Watch where you stick that bacculum you're using to argue.
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
"Argumentum ad baculum," moron. Look it up, if you can figure out
how.
Wikipedia sums it up pretty good...
"One participates in this type of argument when one points out the dire
consequences of holding a contrary position."
I would say that fits you better than me with your constant babbling
about
how all these women will die. If that's not a "dire consequence", I
don't
know what is. Maybe you should have looked it up before you said that.
LOL
"Dire consequence" to the holder of the opposite position, moron. Like
"answering to God," moron.
Apparently, in addition to your other faults, you have difficulty in
reading comprehension as well.
Since that's not how Wikipedia describes it, I'll stick with that.
You'll believe anything as long as you think it'll support your position
and no matter whether or not it actually says what you think it does.
Even more fitting since you don't believe God exists.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
13 Nov 2006 02:22:59 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
You'll believe anything as long as you think it'll support your position
and no matter whether or not it actually says what you think it does.
Even more fitting since you don't believe God exists.
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No, you little lying *****-monkey, we just don't believe that YOUR
Gawd exists!!
Steve
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 09:04:36 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:38:21 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
You'll believe anything as long as you think it'll support your position
and no matter whether or not it actually says what you think it does.
Even more fitting since you don't believe God exists.
Not accepting your assertion has nothing to do with belief.
--
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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12 Nov 2006 09:03:58 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:28:16 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:7vki24-ct51.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:41:00 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptocl2l3ut475ibqforp58gk683rprff3s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not
being
careful.
And they happen whether abortions are legal or not.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Watch where you stick that bacculum you're using to argue.
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
"Argumentum ad baculum," moron. Look it up, if you can figure out how.
Wikipedia sums it up pretty good...
No it doesn't. Where did I say "Argumentum ad bacculum"? You fell
for Frank's error.
I said to watch where you're sticking the bacculum. It's a logic
joke. It means, pretty much, "argument by stick", or "if you don't
agree with me I'll hit you with my stick".
"One participates in this type of argument when one points out the dire
consequences of holding a contrary position."
I would say that fits you better than me with your constant babbling about
how all these women will die. If that's not a "dire consequence", I don't
know what is. Maybe you should have looked it up before you said that.
You're claiming, indirectly, hell for abortion, so it fits Argumentum
ad bacculum perfectly. Hell is your bacculum.
--
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
13 Nov 2006 12:06:23 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:03:58 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
No it doesn't. Where did I say "Argumentum ad bacculum"? You fell
for Frank's error.
Okay, I don't get it. Where is my error? (Just went over it again, no
dice.)
You're claiming, indirectly, hell for abortion, so it fits Argumentum
ad bacculum perfectly. Hell is your bacculum.
That's pretty much as I had reasoned it, yes.
--
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Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
13 Nov 2006 10:17:08 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:06:23 -0800, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:03:58 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
No it doesn't. Where did I say "Argumentum ad bacculum"? You fell
for Frank's error.
Okay, I don't get it. Where is my error? (Just went over it again, no
dice.)
I told him to watch where he was sticking his bacculum - kind of a
pun, since a bacculum is a stick. The reference to the fallacy was
just a side-effect. You kind of understood it - he didn't have a
clue.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
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solve them."
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
13 Nov 2006 11:58:42 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:17:08 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:06:23 -0800, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:03:58 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
No it doesn't. Where did I say "Argumentum ad bacculum"? You fell
for Frank's error.
Okay, I don't get it. Where is my error? (Just went over it again, no
dice.)
I told him to watch where he was sticking his bacculum - kind of a
pun, since a bacculum is a stick. The reference to the fallacy was
just a side-effect. You kind of understood it - he didn't have a
clue.
Okay, thanks. Yeah, I got the reference but not the pun, since I didn't
know what "bacculum" meant. Us young'uns didn't learn Latin in high
school. :-/
As far as him not having a clue, that's pretty blindingly obvious, don't
you think? :-)
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
13 Nov 2006 01:51:18 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:58:42 -0800, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:
Okay, thanks. Yeah, I got the reference but not the pun, since I didn't
know what "bacculum" meant. Us young'uns didn't learn Latin in high
school. :-/
I'm not THAT old. (Only 2 digits in my age.)
As far as him not having a clue, that's pretty blindingly obvious, don't
you think? :-)
That wasn't meant for YOUR edification. :)
--
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to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave
mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 08:59:05 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:41:00 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptocl2l3ut475ibqforp58gk683rprff3s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not being
careful.
And they happen whether abortions are legal or not.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Watch where you stick that bacculum you're using to argue.
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
That I'm pro-abortion is counter to facts. Your God isn't a fact.
Killing a fetus being murder isn't a fact.
Se tell me again, which "facts" am I not accepting?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"A truly unselfish act would be a Christian volunteering to have his soul take your
soul's place in hell, so yours could go to Heaven. Don't hold your breath."
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 10:19:16 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:vpnfl21at136qk4tqj3jjdn6fa0n3ramv2@4ax.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:41:00 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptocl2l3ut475ibqforp58gk683rprff3s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not
being
careful.
And they happen whether abortions are legal or not.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Watch where you stick that bacculum you're using to argue.
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
That I'm pro-abortion is counter to facts. Your God isn't a fact.
Killing a fetus being murder isn't a fact.
Se tell me again, which "facts" am I not accepting?
You just listed them.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
13 Nov 2006 02:31:23 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:vpnfl21at136qk4tqj3jjdn6fa0n3ramv2@4ax.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:41:00 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptocl2l3ut475ibqforp58gk683rprff3s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not
being
careful.
And they happen whether abortions are legal or not.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Watch where you stick that bacculum you're using to argue.
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
That I'm pro-abortion is counter to facts. Your God isn't a fact.
Killing a fetus being murder isn't a fact.
Se tell me again, which "facts" am I not accepting?
You just listed them.
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Those are NON-facts, you *****-fucking moron!
Steve
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
13 Nov 2006 10:15:02 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:19:16 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:vpnfl21at136qk4tqj3jjdn6fa0n3ramv2@4ax.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:41:00 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
Your unwillingness to accept facts is your problem, not mine.
That I'm pro-abortion is counter to facts. Your God isn't a fact.
Killing a fetus being murder isn't a fact.
Se tell me again, which "facts" am I not accepting?
You just listed them.
Your god isn't a fact, so that's not "a fact I'm not accepting". I'm
anti-abortion, so saying I'm pro-abortion isn't "a fact I'm not
accepting". Murder is a legal term and abortion is legal, so killing
a fetus is murder isn't "a fact I'm not accepting".
Seems as if you either can't read, can't understand what you read or
need your connection to reality redone.
--
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as false, and by the rulers as useful."
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 05:58:34 PM |
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:25:35 -0800, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:
Why don't you learn about all the illegal abortions that happened in the
US before Roe v Wade? Why don't you learn what the term "back-alley
abortion" really means.
All you being "pro-life" means is that you want women to die. You care
more about a blob of senseless flesh than about a living breathing person.
Not even. The fetus *always* dies - the woman sometimes dies.
Oh, and you're a damned fool who believes the absurd propaganda fed you by
the religious Right.
You got that right, Frank. All it takes is about 10 seconds of
thought.
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long as I'm the dictator."
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 07:29:36 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:25:35 -0800, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:
Why don't you learn about all the illegal abortions that happened in the
US before Roe v Wade? Why don't you learn what the term "back-alley
abortion" really means.
All you being "pro-life" means is that you want women to die. You care
more about a blob of senseless flesh than about a living breathing person.
Not even. The fetus *always* dies - the woman sometimes dies.
Oh, and you're a damned fool who believes the absurd propaganda fed you by
the religious Right.
You got that right, Frank. All it takes is about 10 seconds of
thought.
Sad that you can choose to kill a child in 10 seconds. I can't. May God have
mercy on your soul.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 03:54:59 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:cqocl2llpnj8n4pqbfbeq2tuu76ahlmmff@4ax.com...
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:25:35 -0800, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:
Why don't you learn about all the illegal abortions that happened in the
US before Roe v Wade? Why don't you learn what the term "back-alley
abortion" really means.
All you being "pro-life" means is that you want women to die. You care
more about a blob of senseless flesh than about a living breathing person.
Not even. The fetus *always* dies - the woman sometimes dies.
Oh, and you're a damned fool who believes the absurd propaganda fed you by
the religious Right.
You got that right, Frank. All it takes is about 10 seconds of
thought.
Sad that you can choose to kill a child in 10 seconds. I can't. May God have
mercy on your soul.
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I can do it in one second, because IT ISN'T A PERSON!! You're the
kind of simpleton who must surely imagine that dolls have souls
because they look like us, which is exactly like pretending that
a fetus is a person, even though like the doll, nobody recalls ever
having been one!!
Steve
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 06:54:25 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:29:36 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:cqocl2llpnj8n4pqbfbeq2tuu76ahlmmff@4ax.com...
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:25:35 -0800, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:
Why don't you learn about all the illegal abortions that happened in the
US before Roe v Wade? Why don't you learn what the term "back-alley
abortion" really means.
All you being "pro-life" means is that you want women to die. You care
more about a blob of senseless flesh than about a living breathing person.
Not even. The fetus *always* dies - the woman sometimes dies.
Oh, and you're a damned fool who believes the absurd propaganda fed you by
the religious Right.
You got that right, Frank. All it takes is about 10 seconds of
thought.
Sad that you can choose to kill a child in 10 seconds. I can't. May God have
mercy on your soul.
Why don't you let this "god" guy deal with it? Why is it "god" can't do anything without government
intervention? What kind of impotent little twerp is this "god" anyway?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 08:57:57 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 06:54:25 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Why don't you let this "god" guy deal with it? Why is it "god" can't do anything without government
intervention? What kind of impotent little twerp is this "god" anyway?
"When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when
it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it
so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil
power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one."
- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 10:16:14 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:29:36 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Sad that you can choose to kill a child in 10 seconds. I can't. May God have
mercy on your soul.
Sad that you can choose to ignore reality and choose to kill a woman for a
brief indiscretion. Sad that you can't see the humanity of the women
you're condemning in favor of a bit of insensate flesh that isn't and
might never be a person. Sad that you have to resort to "god" to justify
a position that is unjustifiable.
Where was your sadness when real, living children were dying under
American bombs in Baghdad? Or do you reserve your concern solely for
clumps of cells and don't care about them after they're actually, you
know, _people_?
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 11:06:16 PM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:epji24-ct51.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:29:36 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Sad that you can choose to kill a child in 10 seconds. I can't. May God
have
mercy on your soul.
Sad that you can choose to ignore reality and choose to kill a woman for a
brief indiscretion. Sad that you can't see the humanity of the women
you're condemning in favor of a bit of insensate flesh that isn't and
might never be a person. Sad that you have to resort to "god" to justify
a position that is unjustifiable.
Where was your sadness when real, living children were dying under
American bombs in Baghdad? Or do you reserve your concern solely for
clumps of cells and don't care about them after they're actually, you
know, _people_?
Actually, I am 100% opposed to the war in Iraq. Bush and his cronies will
have much to answer to God for.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 03:56:34 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:epji24-ct51.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:29:36 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Sad that you can choose to kill a child in 10 seconds. I can't. May God
have
mercy on your soul.
Sad that you can choose to ignore reality and choose to kill a woman for a
brief indiscretion. Sad that you can't see the humanity of the women
you're condemning in favor of a bit of insensate flesh that isn't and
might never be a person. Sad that you have to resort to "god" to justify
a position that is unjustifiable.
Where was your sadness when real, living children were dying under
American bombs in Baghdad? Or do you reserve your concern solely for
clumps of cells and don't care about them after they're actually, you
know, _people_?
Actually, I am 100% opposed to the war in Iraq. Bush and his cronies will
have much to answer to God for.
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Muslims who enslave their women and children and are as cruel as the
Taliban and Sharia Law must be killed to wipe them from the earth to
make the earth safe for SANE human beings!
Steve
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 01:13:06 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:06:16 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:epji24-ct51.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:29:36 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Sad that you can choose to kill a child in 10 seconds. I can't. May God
have
mercy on your soul.
Sad that you can choose to ignore reality and choose to kill a woman for a
brief indiscretion. Sad that you can't see the humanity of the women
you're condemning in favor of a bit of insensate flesh that isn't and
might never be a person. Sad that you have to resort to "god" to justify
a position that is unjustifiable.
Where was your sadness when real, living children were dying under
American bombs in Baghdad? Or do you reserve your concern solely for
clumps of cells and don't care about them after they're actually, you
know, _people_?
Actually, I am 100% opposed to the war in Iraq. Bush and his cronies will
have much to answer to God for.
Uh, huh. Very nice. Too bad your "god" is a fiction. Your "opposition
to the war in Iraq" is worth nothing while you fight to impose your
benighted bigotry upon everyone here. Where was your sadness and anger
when the bombs were falling?
You reserve all your care for clumps of cells and have contempt for living
people.
The world would get along just fine without people like you.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 08:56:52 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:29:36 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:cqocl2llpnj8n4pqbfbeq2tuu76ahlmmff@4ax.com...
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:25:35 -0800, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:
Why don't you learn about all the illegal abortions that happened in the
US before Roe v Wade? Why don't you learn what the term "back-alley
abortion" really means.
All you being "pro-life" means is that you want women to die. You care
more about a blob of senseless flesh than about a living breathing person.
Not even. The fetus *always* dies - the woman sometimes dies.
Oh, and you're a damned fool who believes the absurd propaganda fed you by
the religious Right.
You got that right, Frank. All it takes is about 10 seconds of
thought.
Sad that you can choose to kill a child in 10 seconds.
I've never advocating a child. Sad that you can't see the difference.
I can't. May God have mercy on your soul.
For doing what he commands? Then nay he have mercy on your soul for
not worshipping other gods.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Does it ever amaze anyone else how little faith some heterosexuals have
in heterosexuality? It's supposed to be this god-given human instinct
that only the warped and perverted ever stray from; but, it seems, if we
once tell our straight children a message even as mild as "some people
are gay, and that's all right," that'll be enough to send lil' Suzy into
the arms of women forever. It's a wonder the race has survived this
long, really..."
- Charles M Seaton (21 Dec 1994)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 03:52:56 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:25:35 -0800, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:
Why don't you learn about all the illegal abortions that happened in the
US before Roe v Wade? Why don't you learn what the term "back-alley
abortion" really means.
All you being "pro-life" means is that you want women to die. You care
more about a blob of senseless flesh than about a living breathing person.
Not even. The fetus *always* dies - the woman sometimes dies.
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The fetus CANNOT "die" in any human sense, because it is NOT A BEING,
and does NOT consider its life as a story it can remember and review
and relate to new information. *IF* it did, THEN WE WOULD ALL RECALL
BEING FETUSES!! AND WE DO NOT!!!
Unless you want to propose something dumb and contrived, like, that
it somehow remembers back THEN but forgets before we arise in it, BUT
THEN THAT "fetal mind" is STILL NOT US, and IS EVEN INIMICAL TO US,
because if it does not die we cannot come to be!! But of course that's
idiotic garbage, like arguing angels and pinheads and imaginary things
we can never prove *OR* disprove, which is unworthy of consideration.
Steve
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