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08 Nov 2006 08:55:49 PM |
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Proposition 85 did not pass |
http://www.ktvu.com/politics/5264134/detail.html
The good news is that Props 1-A, 1-B, 1-E & Props 83 & 90 all passed!
Also Props 86-89 all went down!
Prop 85 should also have passed, but it did not. But even it did pass,
its not like the state can stop the many irresponsible High School
girls from having kids and aborting on them. Many of the liberal
unsaved parents would support their decision to abort on the unborn
babies anyways. Heck I bet many of the "liberal Christians" thta are
all around this area would support abortion as well.
In the meantime you can help the fight against abortion by writing to
the unsaved people that run this organization.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/
225 San Antonio Rd
Mountain View, CA 94040
(650) 948-0807
Its not Biblical to bomb them, but its a good use of ones time and
resources to challenge these people with the facts.
Democrat Silencer
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
08 Nov 2006 09:22:44 PM |
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<caelection2006@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1163040949.920840.262560@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.ktvu.com/politics/5264134/detail.html
The good news is that Props 1-A, 1-B, 1-E & Props 83 & 90 all passed!
Also Props 86-89 all went down!
Prop 85 should also have passed, but it did not. But even it did pass,
its not like the state can stop the many irresponsible High School
girls from having kids and aborting on them. Many of the liberal
unsaved parents would support their decision to abort on the unborn
babies anyways. Heck I bet many of the "liberal Christians" thta are
all around this area would support abortion as well.
In the meantime you can help the fight against abortion by writing to
the unsaved people that run this organization.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/
225 San Antonio Rd
Mountain View, CA 94040
(650) 948-0807
Its not Biblical to bomb them, but its a good use of ones time and
resources to challenge these people with the facts.
Fight against abortion by writing the leaders of Planned Parenthood? LOL!
Don't hold your breath waiting for a decent response.
The people of Planned Parenthood are pure evil.
Democrat Silencer
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
10 Nov 2006 08:15:09 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:22:44 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The people of Planned Parenthood are pure evil.
Unlike the anti-choice people who want the girls to die when they get
abortions.
You're NEVER going to stop abortion - all you can stop is LEGAL
abortion.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"To assume the existence of an unperceivable being ... does not facilitate understanding
the orderliness we find in the perceivable world."
- Letter to an Iowa student who asked, What is God? July, 1953; Einstein Archive 59-085
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
10 Nov 2006 09:32:17 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:2fcal29ofbmpcgn4s5sslisd773lll8ds2@4ax.com...
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:22:44 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The people of Planned Parenthood are pure evil.
Unlike the anti-choice people who want the girls to die when they get
abortions.
You're NEVER going to stop abortion - all you can stop is LEGAL
abortion.
That's a huge step in the right direction.
We don't want girls to die when they get abortions. We also don't want
babies to die.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 04:36:03 AM |
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"Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com> wrote in message
news:5vb5h.8172$9v5.8025@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:2fcal29ofbmpcgn4s5sslisd773lll8ds2@4ax.com...
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:22:44 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The people of Planned Parenthood are pure evil.
Unlike the anti-choice people who want the girls to die when they get
abortions.
You're NEVER going to stop abortion - all you can stop is LEGAL
abortion.
That's a huge step in the right direction.
We don't want girls to die when they get abortions. We also don't want
babies to die.
No babies die during an abortion.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 03:03:11 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:2fcal29ofbmpcgn4s5sslisd773lll8ds2@4ax.com...
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:22:44 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The people of Planned Parenthood are pure evil.
Unlike the anti-choice people who want the girls to die when they get
abortions.
You're NEVER going to stop abortion - all you can stop is LEGAL
abortion.
That's a huge step in the right direction.
We don't want girls to die when they get abortions. We also don't want
babies to die.
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Fetuses aren't "babies", you insipid moron! Babies, as people think
of them, are Persons! And newborn don't even recall their existence
later till 2 to 4 months old, so even those aren't Persons for quite
a while, they stare right through you and don't even smile except
from gas!
Steve
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
10 Nov 2006 11:25:35 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:32:17 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:2fcal29ofbmpcgn4s5sslisd773lll8ds2@4ax.com...
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:22:44 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The people of Planned Parenthood are pure evil.
Unlike the anti-choice people who want the girls to die when they get
abortions.
You're NEVER going to stop abortion - all you can stop is LEGAL
abortion.
That's a huge step in the right direction.
Why don't you learn about all the illegal abortions that happened in the
US before Roe v Wade? Why don't you learn what the term "back-alley
abortion" really means.
All you being "pro-life" means is that you want women to die. You care
more about a blob of senseless flesh than about a living breathing person.
Oh, and you're a damned fool who believes the absurd propaganda fed you by
the religious Right.
We don't want girls to die when they get abortions. We also don't want
babies to die.
That reminds me, I need to resume my regular donations to Planned
Parenthood, now that I have a non-contract job. I like the thought that
in some small way I'm helping them fight fucking idiots like yourself.
Thanks for the reminder!
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 07:18:13 AM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:ff3g24-g9e1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:32:17 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:2fcal29ofbmpcgn4s5sslisd773lll8ds2@4ax.com...
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:22:44 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The people of Planned Parenthood are pure evil.
Unlike the anti-choice people who want the girls to die when they get
abortions.
You're NEVER going to stop abortion - all you can stop is LEGAL
abortion.
That's a huge step in the right direction.
Why don't you learn about all the illegal abortions that happened in the
US before Roe v Wade? Why don't you learn what the term "back-alley
abortion" really means.
Been there, done that.
All you being "pro-life" means is that you want women to die. You care
more about a blob of senseless flesh than about a living breathing person.
You were once a "blob of senseless flesh" based on your definition. It seems
you still are.
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not being
careful.
Oh, and you're a damned fool who believes the absurd propaganda fed you by
the religious Right.
We don't want girls to die when they get abortions. We also don't want
babies to die.
That reminds me, I need to resume my regular donations to Planned
Parenthood, now that I have a non-contract job. I like the thought that
in some small way I'm helping them fight fucking idiots like yourself.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 04:13:23 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
You were once a "blob of senseless flesh" based on your definition. It seems
you still are.
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You're the ***** who failed to grow a mind!
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not being
careful.
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No "child" is conceived. A "child" occurs a couple months after birth.
The zygote/embryo/fetus/newborn is NOT a PERSON, as it does NOT recall
BEING, then or later when a PERSON recalls the extent of THEIR LIFE!!
That reminds me, I need to resume my regular donations to Planned
Parenthood, now that I have a non-contract job. I like the thought that
in some small way I'm helping them fight fucking idiots like yourself.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
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You have NO FUCKING IDEA what any "Gawd" wants or might want except
for the superstitious garbage handed you by feudal barons who wished
to brainwash and control you! You've never been spoken to by any Gawd
either. If you had any couth you'd admit that so that you didn't look
like a lying posturing whackjob.
Steve
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 07:56:38 AM |
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"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message
news:4556F482.5399@armory.com...
Mike Dundee wrote:
You were once a "blob of senseless flesh" based on your definition. It
seems
you still are.
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You're the ***** who failed to grow a mind!
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not being
careful.
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No "child" is conceived. A "child" occurs a couple months after birth.
The zygote/embryo/fetus/newborn is NOT a PERSON, as it does NOT recall
BEING, then or later when a PERSON recalls the extent of THEIR LIFE!!
The vast majority of people don't remember much of anything before the age
of 18 months to two years. By your reasoning, they can be killed as well
because they can't remember?
Do you think about what you say before you say it?
That reminds me, I need to resume my regular donations to Planned
Parenthood, now that I have a non-contract job. I like the thought
that
in some small way I'm helping them fight fucking idiots like yourself.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
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You have NO FUCKING IDEA what any "Gawd" wants or might want except
for the superstitious garbage handed you by feudal barons who wished
to brainwash and control you! You've never been spoken to by any Gawd
either. If you had any couth you'd admit that so that you didn't look
like a lying posturing whackjob.
Steve
I have had so many prayers answered I have lost count. So, while God hasn't
"spoken" to me in a literal sense, He certainly lets me know He is there.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
13 Nov 2006 02:46:40 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message
news:4556F482.5399@armory.com...
Mike Dundee wrote:
You were once a "blob of senseless flesh" based on your definition. It
seems
you still are.
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You're the ***** who failed to grow a mind!
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not being
careful.
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No "child" is conceived. A "child" occurs a couple months after birth.
The zygote/embryo/fetus/newborn is NOT a PERSON, as it does NOT recall
BEING, then or later when a PERSON recalls the extent of THEIR LIFE!!
The vast majority of people don't remember much of anything before the age
of 18 months to two years. By your reasoning, they can be killed as well
because they can't remember?
Do you think about what you say before you say it?
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Actually the range of attainment of self-awareness is between 2 and 4
months! The memory is simply not indexed by serial date before later,
but with simple techniques it can be proved to them that they recall
their life back to 2-4 months.
That reminds me, I need to resume my regular donations to Planned
Parenthood, now that I have a non-contract job. I like the thought
that
in some small way I'm helping them fight fucking idiots like yourself.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
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You have NO FUCKING IDEA what any "Gawd" wants or might want except
for the superstitious garbage handed you by feudal barons who wished
to brainwash and control you! You've never been spoken to by any Gawd
either. If you had any couth you'd admit that so that you didn't look
like a lying posturing whackjob.
Steve
I have had so many prayers answered I have lost count.
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You're a fucking delusional! You're like the idiots who play the
Lottery and imagine the cards are "telling them the winners".
they continue to lose more and more, and SO DO YOU!
Steve
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 01:41:31 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:56:38 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
I have had so many prayers answered I have lost count. So, while God hasn't
"spoken" to me in a literal sense, He certainly lets me know He is there.
Did you know that "gullible" isn't in the dictionary?
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 12:31:54 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:ff3g24-g9e1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:32:17 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:2fcal29ofbmpcgn4s5sslisd773lll8ds2@4ax.com...
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:22:44 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The people of Planned Parenthood are pure evil.
Unlike the anti-choice people who want the girls to die when they get
abortions.
You're NEVER going to stop abortion - all you can stop is LEGAL
abortion.
That's a huge step in the right direction.
Why don't you learn about all the illegal abortions that happened in the
US before Roe v Wade? Why don't you learn what the term "back-alley
abortion" really means.
Been there, done that.
I simply do not believe you. Tell me who Gerri Santoro was. Who was the
person well-known for a pro-choice stance who died recently? Why did
women get illegal and dangerous abortions before Roe v Wade?
Or are you just talking out your *****?
All you being "pro-life" means is that you want women to die. You care
more about a blob of senseless flesh than about a living breathing person.
You were once a "blob of senseless flesh" based on your definition.
Yep. And if my Mom had gotten an abortion (btw, they were illegal then,
and more than a decade from becoming legal) I wouldn't be sitting here
now. I would have never known it, either, because I would have never
existed. So what?
Just because _you_ can't handle that idea doesn't many no one _else_ can.
It
seems you still are.
The vast majority of abortions are a result of people not wanting to be
"inconvenienced" by having to raise the child they conceived by not
being careful.
Where oh where have I heard _that_ stupid canard before? And I suppose in
your world contraception is always 100% effective?
Did you know that Sweden, where abortion is legal and easily available and
where contraception is also widely available, has the lowest teen
pregnancy rate in the world? And Holland, which also has legal abortion,
has the lowest abortion rate _in the world_?
Making abortion illegal will just hurt women and won't reduce abortion.
If you really want to reduce abortion, focus on education and contraception.
But you won't, because you really don't give a ***** about women. As I
told someone else recently, you would rather moan about "all the dead
baaabieees" while stepping over the corpses of the women you kill with
your indifference.
You want illegal abortion? Move to El Salvador or Nicaragua. You should
be very happy there.
That reminds me, I need to resume my regular donations to Planned
Parenthood, now that I have a non-contract job. I like the thought that
in some small way I'm helping them fight fucking idiots like yourself.
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
Did you know that your Bible actually _supports_ abortion? Only it gives
the choice to the man, since the woman is considered property. I _don't_
consider women property and am quite firmly of the opinion that they are
the only ones who should make that choice for themselves.
Color me unconcerned about your "god" threat. Why should _I_ worry about
_your_ fantasies?
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 06:32:55 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:31:54 -0800, Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:ff3g24-g9e1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:32:17 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:2fcal29ofbmpcgn4s5sslisd773lll8ds2@4ax.com...
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:22:44 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
The people of Planned Parenthood are pure evil.
Unlike the anti-choice people who want the girls to die when they get
abortions.
You're NEVER going to stop abortion - all you can stop is LEGAL
abortion.
That's a huge step in the right direction.
Why don't you learn about all the illegal abortions that happened in the
US before Roe v Wade? Why don't you learn what the term "back-alley
abortion" really means.
Been there, done that.
I simply do not believe you. Tell me who Gerri Santoro was. Who was the
person well-known for a pro-choice stance who died recently? Why did
women get illegal and dangerous abortions before Roe v Wade?
Or are you just talking out your *****?
I want to know how many times he held the hand of a girl who was
bleeding to death. Or one who wished to die, the pain was so bad. Or
how many times he went through red lights, trying to get a girl to the
ER in time to save her life.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been
witnessed. Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
- Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 11-28-2004
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 06:42:14 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
And you will answer to God
God who?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 07:25:22 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
The lying idiot is so stupid he threatens people with a figment of his
deluded imagination for using their minds. Nobody is "pro-abort" - and
the lying idiot knows that.
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 07:40:54 AM |
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<calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:umjbl2pfnqk0mg4n9vf17deqb961u4h3k8@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
The lying idiot is so stupid he threatens people with a figment of his
deluded imagination for using their minds. Nobody is "pro-abort" - and
the lying idiot knows that.
If you're in favor of abortion you are a pro-abort.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 07:47:16 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:40:54 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
<calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:umjbl2pfnqk0mg4n9vf17deqb961u4h3k8@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
The lying idiot is so stupid he threatens people with a figment of his
deluded imagination for using their minds. Nobody is "pro-abort" - and
the lying idiot knows that.
If you're in favor of abortion you are a pro-abort.
Nobody is "in favor of abortion", moron.
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 08:03:26 AM |
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<calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:d2lbl29g58qtrblj88eugfk6hd07lfg9hs@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:40:54 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
<calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:umjbl2pfnqk0mg4n9vf17deqb961u4h3k8@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
The lying idiot is so stupid he threatens people with a figment of his
deluded imagination for using their minds. Nobody is "pro-abort" - and
the lying idiot knows that.
If you're in favor of abortion you are a pro-abort.
Nobody is "in favor of abortion", moron.
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
Planned Parenthood wants to hand out birth control in every school knowing
this encourages sexual activity, also knowing that in the heat of the moment
birth control is often forgotten, which results in more pregnancies and more
business for them.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 04:18:55 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
<calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:d2lbl29g58qtrblj88eugfk6hd07lfg9hs@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:40:54 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
<calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:umjbl2pfnqk0mg4n9vf17deqb961u4h3k8@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
The lying idiot is so stupid he threatens people with a figment of his
deluded imagination for using their minds. Nobody is "pro-abort" - and
the lying idiot knows that.
If you're in favor of abortion you are a pro-abort.
Nobody is "in favor of abortion", moron.
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
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Sex is a sacrament, you oppose our sacrament. You want people to
abstain from the sacrament of their religious life! You are a
shitfucking heretic before the human species, people who oppose
sexuality should be taken out and killed immediately!!
Planned Parenthood wants to hand out birth control in every school knowing
this encourages sexual activity, also knowing that in the heat of the moment
birth control is often forgotten, which results in more pregnancies and more
business for them.
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Being non-profit it is NOT any kind of "business", you lying *****!!
And the more birth control is made available, the more it is used,
you *****!
Steve
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 06:42:44 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:03:26 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
<calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:d2lbl29g58qtrblj88eugfk6hd07lfg9hs@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:40:54 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
<calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:umjbl2pfnqk0mg4n9vf17deqb961u4h3k8@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:18:13 GMT, "Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com>
wrote:
And you will answer to God some day for your choices, as will every
pro-abort.
The lying idiot is so stupid he threatens people with a figment of his
deluded imagination for using their minds. Nobody is "pro-abort" - and
the lying idiot knows that.
If you're in favor of abortion you are a pro-abort.
Nobody is "in favor of abortion", moron.
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
Planned Parenthood wants to hand out birth control in every school knowing
this encourages sexual activity, also knowing that in the heat of the moment
birth control is often forgotten, which results in more pregnancies and more
business for them.
Oh, I see. You're insane.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 12:41:04 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:03:26 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
Well, I do have to say that this is true. But, of course, not for the
reason you think. "Teaching people to abstain" DOESN'T WORK! It just
leads to further problems in the long run.
Your stupid, vicious ignorance doesn't help the situation, it only harms.
Planned Parenthood wants to hand out birth control in every school knowing
this encourages sexual activity, also knowing that in the heat of the moment
birth control is often forgotten, which results in more pregnancies and more
business for them.
You're just a liar, that's all. You _know_ that Planned Parenthood does a
lot more than "hand out birth control." They actually _educate_ people.
You know that, far from resulting in "more pregnancies," education and
freely available birth control actually _reduces_ pregnancy rates (Sweden,
with one of the most liberal systems in the world, also has the lowest
rate of teen pregnancy in the world). I give to Planned Parenthood
because they are helping the situation, despite you unspeakable fools.
Repeating myself again, I become enraged when I see women being maimed
and killed when it could be so easily avoided. I become enraged when I see
you arrogant, smug, self-righteous pricks condoning the maiming and
killing. Of course you don't _call_ it that, you call it "saving the
babies," but it is vile, obscene and contemptible, no matter how you dress
it up.
You're just another flavor of bigot, no different than the rest of the
racists, homophobes and religious bigots that infest the human race.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 01:59:30 PM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:03ih24-6nk1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:03:26 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
Well, I do have to say that this is true. But, of course, not for the
reason you think. "Teaching people to abstain" DOESN'T WORK! It just
leads to further problems in the long run.
You pro-aborts don't want to give it a chance to see if it will. You can't
claim it will lead to firther problems in the long run when you fight
against it ever being tried. And you call us stupid?
What would be the harm in a long term test? Pro-aborts don't want long term
tests on that issue.
Your stupid, vicious ignorance doesn't help the situation, it only harms.
Planned Parenthood wants to hand out birth control in every school
knowing
this encourages sexual activity, also knowing that in the heat of the
moment
birth control is often forgotten, which results in more pregnancies and
more
business for them.
You're just a liar, that's all. You _know_ that Planned Parenthood does a
lot more than "hand out birth control." They actually _educate_ people.
You know that, far from resulting in "more pregnancies," education and
freely available birth control actually _reduces_ pregnancy rates (Sweden,
with one of the most liberal systems in the world, also has the lowest
rate of teen pregnancy in the world). I give to Planned Parenthood
because they are helping the situation, despite you unspeakable fools.
Repeating myself again, I become enraged when I see women being maimed
and killed when it could be so easily avoided. I become enraged when I
see
you arrogant, smug, self-righteous pricks condoning the maiming and
killing. Of course you don't _call_ it that, you call it "saving the
babies," but it is vile, obscene and contemptible, no matter how you dress
it up.
If women don't want to be maimed and killed, women can make a CHOICE to keep
their legs together. We have become so morally corrupt in this country that
we encourage people to be irresponsible by giving them an easy out.
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 04:27:54 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:03ih24-6nk1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:03:26 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
Well, I do have to say that this is true. But, of course, not for the
reason you think. "Teaching people to abstain" DOESN'T WORK! It just
leads to further problems in the long run.
You pro-aborts don't want to give it a chance to see if it will.
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It's had thousands of years, and it's never worked before!!!
If Communism had THAT kind of record NOBODY would ever have
tried it!
You can't
claim it will lead to firther problems in the long run when you fight
against it ever being tried. And you call us stupid?
What would be the harm in a long term test? Pro-aborts don't want long term
tests on that issue.
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Not unless they're ON YOU, you *****! YOU ***** try it for as LOOOONNNGG
as you like and when there are lots less of you get back to us and
we'll kill the rest of you off! And if they're more of you, well, we
TOLD YOU SO!!
If women don't want to be maimed and killed, women can make a CHOICE to keep
their legs together. We have become so morally corrupt in this country that
we encourage people to be irresponsible by giving them an easy out.
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There's nothing whatsoever "corrupt" about fucking. That's just a
reflection of your mental-emotional problem, you're sexuophobic!!
Steve
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 06:50:37 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:59:30 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:03ih24-6nk1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:03:26 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
Well, I do have to say that this is true. But, of course, not for the
reason you think. "Teaching people to abstain" DOESN'T WORK! It just
leads to further problems in the long run.
You pro-aborts don't want to give it a chance to see if it will. You
can't claim it will lead to firther problems in the long run when you
fight against it ever being tried. And you call us stupid? What would be
the harm in a long term test?
What part of "leads to further problems" are you having trouble with?
Studies show the programs are ineffective at *best. Such as:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6894568/
"The study showed about 23 percent of ninth-grade girls, typically 13 to
14 years old, had sex before receiving abstinence education. After taking
the course, 29 percent of the girls in the same group said they had had
sex.
"Boys in the tenth grade, about 14 to 15 years old, showed a more marked
increase, from 24 percent to 39 percent, after receiving abstinence
education."
Apparently you folks should rename it the "Go ***** More" program...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 05:58:47 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:59:30 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:03ih24-6nk1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:03:26 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
Well, I do have to say that this is true. But, of course, not for the
reason you think. "Teaching people to abstain" DOESN'T WORK! It just
leads to further problems in the long run.
You pro-aborts
You won't mind if I start calling your kind "pro-murder," then, will you?
It's murder when a woman dies as a result of abortion being illegal.
don't want to give it a chance to see if it will. You
can't claim it will lead to firther problems in the long run when you
fight against it ever being tried. And you call us stupid? What would be
the harm in a long term test? Pro-aborts don't want long term tests on
that issue.
You're really this stupid, aren't you?
"Abstinence education" has been tried and _is_ being tried. In case you
haven't noticed, you stupid fucks have been running the country for the
past few years. In every single case, teen pregnancy rates actually
_rose_.
On the other hand, education about contraception, traditional "sex
education" as practiced in the Netherlands and elsewhere, actually
_reduces_ the rate of teen pregnancy.
"Abstinence education" is just ignorance. Children are smarter than that,
even if _you_ aren't.
If women don't want to be maimed and killed, women can make a CHOICE to
Recently a blogger had a failure of birth control. The condom broke. She
is in a position where a child would be a disaster. She was _denied_
emergency contraception, since she happens to live in a part of the
country where you pig-ignorant fucks hold sway. She has been _forced_, by
the kind of benighted ignorance you espouse, to get an abortion.
So she chose to make love to her partner. You're saying that she should
have just "kept her legs together?" Sorry, dipshit, most of us don't live
in the 1800's.
keep their legs together. We have become so morally corrupt in this
country that we encourage people to be irresponsible by giving them an
easy out.
_You_ are condemning _others_ for being "morally corrupt?" There you sit
on your fat *****, pretending that if you outlaw abortion and contraception
then people will stop having sex, when if you actually took your head out
of your ***** long enough to look around, you would find that the _opposite_
is true.
Add to that the fact that you're male. It's certainly never an issue with
which _you_ will have to contend, is it?
You're an ignorant, bigoted liar.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
11 Nov 2006 07:40:18 PM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:nm4i24-evp.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:59:30 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:03ih24-6nk1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:03:26 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
Well, I do have to say that this is true. But, of course, not for the
reason you think. "Teaching people to abstain" DOESN'T WORK! It just
leads to further problems in the long run.
You pro-aborts
You won't mind if I start calling your kind "pro-murder," then, will you?
It's murder when a woman dies as a result of abortion being illegal.
No, it would be more like attempted suicide if she CHOSE to have an illegal
abortion after CHOOSING to not be responsible.
don't want to give it a chance to see if it will. You
can't claim it will lead to firther problems in the long run when you
fight against it ever being tried. And you call us stupid? What would be
the harm in a long term test? Pro-aborts don't want long term tests on
that issue.
You're really this stupid, aren't you?
"Abstinence education" has been tried and _is_ being tried. In case you
haven't noticed, you stupid fucks have been running the country for the
past few years. In every single case, teen pregnancy rates actually
_rose_.
On the other hand, education about contraception, traditional "sex
education" as practiced in the Netherlands and elsewhere, actually
_reduces_ the rate of teen pregnancy.
"Abstinence education" is just ignorance. Children are smarter than that,
even if _you_ aren't.
Children know what the attitude is out in the world. They know if they mess
up, someone will be there to help them. We have created a society of
irresponsible people.
If women don't want to be maimed and killed, women can make a CHOICE to
Recently a blogger had a failure of birth control. The condom broke. She
is in a position where a child would be a disaster. She was _denied_
emergency contraception, since she happens to live in a part of the
country where you pig-ignorant fucks hold sway. She has been _forced_, by
the kind of benighted ignorance you espouse, to get an abortion.
So she chose to make love to her partner. You're saying that she should
have just "kept her legs together?" Sorry, dipshit, most of us don't live
in the 1800's.
Sex is pleasurable. When you choose to have sex, you accept the
responsibility that comes with it. Everyone knows birth control isn't 100%.
That is the risk you take.
Drinking alcohol is pleasurable. If you CHOOSE to drink knowing there is a
chance it might make you do something stupid, say, sleep with someone you
wouldn't normally consider sleeping with, you take that chance.
If you drink and make a CHOICE to drive, you take a chance you might kill
yourself.
It's no different than a male who doesn't want to use protection. He CHOOSES
to risk getting an STD.
You pro-choicers are hypocritical anyway. When a man and woman sleep
together, they are equally responsible for their actions. When a woman
becomes pregnant and wants to abort, the man has no say, even if he wants to
raise the child by himself. Yet if the woman chooses to keep the child and
the man doesn't want to, he has to support it.
Why not give men the right to not have to support a child they don't want if
they so CHOOSE?
keep their legs together. We have become so morally corrupt in this
country that we encourage people to be irresponsible by giving them an
easy out.
_You_ are condemning _others_ for being "morally corrupt?" There you sit
on your fat *****, pretending that if you outlaw abortion and contraception
then people will stop having sex, when if you actually took your head out
of your ***** long enough to look around, you would find that the _opposite_
is true.
Choices can have consequences.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 04:02:51 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:nm4i24-evp.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:59:30 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:03ih24-6nk1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:03:26 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
Well, I do have to say that this is true. But, of course, not for the
reason you think. "Teaching people to abstain" DOESN'T WORK! It just
leads to further problems in the long run.
You pro-aborts
You won't mind if I start calling your kind "pro-murder," then, will you?
It's murder when a woman dies as a result of abortion being illegal.
No, it would be more like attempted suicide if she CHOSE to have an illegal
abortion after CHOOSING to not be responsible.
--------------------------------
We need to CHOOSE to KILL ALL YOUR KIND, that cures the problem
right there!
don't want to give it a chance to see if it will. You
can't claim it will lead to firther problems in the long run when you
fight against it ever being tried. And you call us stupid? What would be
the harm in a long term test? Pro-aborts don't want long term tests on
that issue.
You're really this stupid, aren't you?
"Abstinence education" has been tried and _is_ being tried. In case you
haven't noticed, you stupid fucks have been running the country for the
past few years. In every single case, teen pregnancy rates actually
_rose_.
On the other hand, education about contraception, traditional "sex
education" as practiced in the Netherlands and elsewhere, actually
_reduces_ the rate of teen pregnancy.
"Abstinence education" is just ignorance. Children are smarter than that,
even if _you_ aren't.
Children know what the attitude is out in the world. They know if they mess
up, someone will be there to help them. We have created a society of
irresponsible people.
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You've created a society of ignorant insane superstitious people. Your
notion of "responsibility" is Dark Age gobbledy-gook!
Sex is pleasurable. When you choose to have sex, you accept the
responsibility that comes with it.
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We do. Whenever we maka a fetus we won't want we KILL it, instead
of making it grow up hated and SUFFER that, like YOU ***** do!
Non-existence is better than a bad existence!
You pro-choicers are hypocritical anyway. When a man and woman sleep
together, they are equally responsible for their actions. When a woman
becomes pregnant and wants to abort, the man has no say, even if he wants to
raise the child by himself. Yet if the woman chooses to keep the child and
the man doesn't want to, he has to support it.
Why not give men the right to not have to support a child they don't want if
they so CHOOSE?
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If they don't want to ***** they don't have to, do they!
Or are you turning into a hypocrite?
If men and women want to ***** they must be responsible enough to kill
all the shitty little assholes in the world like YOU!!
Steve
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
12 Nov 2006 07:53:25 AM |
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"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message
news:4556F209.48DA@armory.com...
Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:nm4i24-evp.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:59:30 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:03ih24-6nk1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:03:26 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
Well, I do have to say that this is true. But, of course, not for
the
reason you think. "Teaching people to abstain" DOESN'T WORK! It
just
leads to further problems in the long run.
You pro-aborts
You won't mind if I start calling your kind "pro-murder," then, will
you?
It's murder when a woman dies as a result of abortion being illegal.
No, it would be more like attempted suicide if she CHOSE to have an
illegal
abortion after CHOOSING to not be responsible.
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We need to CHOOSE to KILL ALL YOUR KIND, that cures the problem
right there!
Thanks for the admission you condone murdering adults.
don't want to give it a chance to see if it will. You
can't claim it will lead to firther problems in the long run when you
fight against it ever being tried. And you call us stupid? What would
be
the harm in a long term test? Pro-aborts don't want long term tests on
that issue.
You're really this stupid, aren't you?
"Abstinence education" has been tried and _is_ being tried. In case
you
haven't noticed, you stupid fucks have been running the country for the
past few years. In every single case, teen pregnancy rates actually
_rose_.
On the other hand, education about contraception, traditional "sex
education" as practiced in the Netherlands and elsewhere, actually
_reduces_ the rate of teen pregnancy.
"Abstinence education" is just ignorance. Children are smarter than
that,
even if _you_ aren't.
Children know what the attitude is out in the world. They know if they
mess
up, someone will be there to help them. We have created a society of
irresponsible people.
-----------------------------
You've created a society of ignorant insane superstitious people. Your
notion of "responsibility" is Dark Age gobbledy-gook!
Sex is pleasurable. When you choose to have sex, you accept the
responsibility that comes with it.
-----------------
We do. Whenever we maka a fetus we won't want we KILL it, instead
of making it grow up hated and SUFFER that, like YOU ***** do!
Non-existence is better than a bad existence!
Thaks for the admission that abortion is indeed killing.
You pro-choicers are hypocritical anyway. When a man and woman sleep
together, they are equally responsible for their actions. When a woman
becomes pregnant and wants to abort, the man has no say, even if he wants
to
raise the child by himself. Yet if the woman chooses to keep the child
and
the man doesn't want to, he has to support it.
Why not give men the right to not have to support a child they don't want
if
they so CHOOSE?
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If they don't want to ***** they don't have to, do they!
Or are you turning into a hypocrite?
If men and women want to ***** they must be responsible enough to kill
all the shitty little assholes in the world like YOU!!
Steve
LOL you are a piece of work.
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| User: "R. Steve Walz" |
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| Title: Re: Proposition 85 did not pass |
13 Nov 2006 02:42:53 AM |
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Mike Dundee wrote:
"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message
news:4556F209.48DA@armory.com...
Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:nm4i24-evp.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:59:30 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:03ih24-6nk1.ln1@tinker.exit.com...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:03:26 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
Wrong. You favor abortion more than teaching people to abstain.
Well, I do have to say that this is true. But, of course, not for
the
reason you think. "Teaching people to abstain" DOESN'T WORK! It
just
leads to further problems in the long run.
You pro-aborts
You won't mind if I start calling your kind "pro-murder," then, will
you?
It's murder when a woman dies as a result of abortion being illegal.
No, it would be more like attempted suicide if she CHOSE to have an
illegal
abortion after CHOOSING to not be responsible.
--------------------------------
We need to CHOOSE to KILL ALL YOUR KIND, that cures the problem
right there!
Thanks for the admission you condone murdering adults.
------------------------
HELL yeah! The Taliban, Sharia Law Muslims, and when we're done with
them we must start on Baptists and Asswipe Catholics as well!
Sex is pleasurable. When you choose to have sex, you accept the
responsibility that comes with it.
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We do. Whenever we maka a fetus we won't want we KILL it, instead
of making it grow up hated and SUFFER that, like YOU ***** do!
Non-existence is better than a bad existence!
Thaks for the admission that abortion is indeed killing.
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Except it's killing unconscious animals, NOT PERSONS!
Why not give men the right to not have to support a child they don't want
if
they so CHOOSE?
---------------------------------
If they don't want to ***** they don't have to, do they!
Or are you turning into a hypocrite?
If men and women want to ***** they must be responsible enough to kill
all the shitty little assholes in the world like YOU!!
Steve
LOL you are a piece of work.
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BE terrified!
Steve
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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12 Nov 2006 06:52:07 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:40:18 +0000, Mike Dundee wrote:
You pro-choicers are hypocritical anyway. When a man and woman sleep
together, they are equally responsible for their actions. When a woman
becomes pregnant and wants to abort, the man has no say, even if he wants to
raise the child by himself.
Well, next time a man becomes pregnant, he can have "say" over what
happens in his body...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
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