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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "quibbler"
Date: 09 Jun 2004 07:18:27 PM
Object: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First let me say that any complaints or accusations of "hate",
"intolerance", "denigration", etc will be completely ignored, so don't
even bother. I don't apologize for hating Hitler and I don't apologize
for hating his political analog Ronald Reagan. Also, all invocations of
Godwin's law will automatically mark you as a moron and will be
discarded.
Now down to business. I'm tired of all the lying praise and
motherfucking honors being heaped on that crooked, criminal, turn-coat,
rapist, ***** sucker Reagan. Organizations like the stock market are
talking about shutting down on Friday to honor that terrorist-loving war
criminal Ronzo al Reagan. Appropriately, shutting down the stock
exchange and other institutions will waste a lot of money, which is
exactly what Ronnie did the whole time he was president. Many other
presidents have not been afforded similar honors and it's unacceptable
that a piece of human garbage like Reagan should be elevated to such a
high stature.
I say that we organize a protest all day Friday when that sick *****
Reagan is being planted in the ground like the load of toxic sludge he
is. Take the day off, if necessary, and let the world know that Reagan
was a vile son-of-a-***** who should have been impeached, convicted and
imprisoned for funding death squads in South America. Burn the son of
***** in effigy. Tell the truth about his evil legacy and his gross
stupidity. Don't allow the conservatard media to deity that b-movie,
brain-dead, chicken hawk ***** Reagan. The right-wingers are trying
to stampede people into reflexively honoring a man who deserves only
scorn. They are trying to play on the fact that most people will be
docile and polite, even to a despicable, decaying, vampiric ***** like
Reagan.
P.S. If they put Reagan on the Ten dollar bill then put a big "X"
through his face. It's perfectly legal and it will show that Reagan is
not worthy of any respect in this country.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.

User: "Robert Miller"

Title: Re: Fascist regime counterfeiting 24 Aug 2004 11:11:37 AM
"George Washington Hayduke" <Hayduke@AWOLBush.com> wrote in message
news:10ik3grf5b2nbe1@corp.supernews.com...

"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Vendicar Decarian" <VD@Pyro.net> wrote in message
news:ZgzVc.7284$%m4.1252809@read2.cgocable.net...

"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ebidnfSq3Pd0tL3cRVn-tw@hemc.net...

The primary cause of inflation is the printing of unbacked money.

That is one cause among many.


Historicly speaking printing unbacked money is the primary cause of
inflation. There are many examples in Ameican history as early as the
early 1700's, and during the Ameican Revolution. George Washington
is recorded as lamenting to Congress that a wagon load of goods cost
a wagan load of money.


We also saw that this fascist regime has been and continues to counterfeit
Iraqi money as a weapon against the people of Iraq. It was covered in a
series of complaints the brave people of Iraq managed to voice before

being

brutally put down by the Bush fascists.

It's not uncommon for a nation to print unbacked currency and then blame
another nation for printing counterfeit currency as the reason the economy
is
in the tank.
Case in point: The Continental Congress of the United States had $20
Million
in gold and silver to back a paper currency. Which was fine except they
didn't
print $20 million of currency. They printed $160 million of currency.
The economy was so bad laws had to be passed forcing merchants to accept
the Contientals or in some cases tried for treason and lose their homes and
business. The result was that if you went into a market there would be
little of value on the store shelves. Go into a butcher shop and there
would
be no meat for sale. Look in the butcher's field and see a nice fat Bull he
would tell you "It's not for sale", but I have silver! Oh! why didn't you
say
so? I have just decided to sell my Bull. Will you take it live? or would
you
like me to butcher it for you?
If there counterfeit money in Iraq the first place to look is Iraq. You
might
check to see if the printing plates and printing machines are still at the
treasury department.
I can't think of a single reason the United States would spend Billions to
jump start the Iraqi economy with the one hand and then sabotage the Iraqi
economy with the other hand.
Do you have any idea's?
If I were in charge of the economy in Iraq I would pass a law that new
money would be printed as soon as possible and that new money would
be exchangeable at face value for Silver coins.
Silver does not suffer inflation like paper does!
Robert Miller
member of www.norfed.org
Bringing Ameica back to value $1 at a time.
.

User: "Animal buddy"

Title: Re: Fascist regime counterfeiting 23 Aug 2004 09:18:53 PM
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:30:01 GMT,
(George
Washington Hayduke) wrote:

"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Vendicar Decarian" <VD@Pyro.net> wrote in message
news:ZgzVc.7284$%m4.1252809@read2.cgocable.net...

"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ebidnfSq3Pd0tL3cRVn-tw@hemc.net...

The primary cause of inflation is the printing of unbacked money.

That is one cause among many.


Historicly speaking printing unbacked money is the primary cause of
inflation. There are many examples in Ameican history as early as the
early 1700's, and during the Ameican Revolution. George Washington
is recorded as lamenting to Congress that a wagon load of goods cost
a wagan load of money.


We also saw that this fascist regime has been and continues to counterfeit
Iraqi money as a weapon against the people of Iraq. It was covered in a
series of complaints the brave people of Iraq managed to voice before being
brutally put down by the Bush fascists.

Were you born this stupid, or did you work at it for several years
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User: "biasbros"

Title: Re: Fascist regime counterfeiting 23 Aug 2004 09:32:44 PM
"Animal buddy" <libnow@defendanimals.org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:30:01 GMT,

(George
Washington Hayduke) wrote:

"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Vendicar Decarian" <VD@Pyro.net> wrote in message
news:ZgzVc.7284$%m4.1252809@read2.cgocable.net...

"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ebidnfSq3Pd0tL3cRVn-tw@hemc.net...

The primary cause of inflation is the printing of unbacked money.

That is one cause among many.


Historicly speaking printing unbacked money is the primary cause of
inflation. There are many examples in Ameican history as early as the
early 1700's, and during the Ameican Revolution. George Washington
is recorded as lamenting to Congress that a wagon load of goods cost
a wagan load of money.


We also saw that this fascist regime has been and continues to

counterfeit

Iraqi money as a weapon against the people of Iraq. It was covered in a
series of complaints the brave people of Iraq managed to voice before

being

brutally put down by the Bush fascists.


Were you born this stupid, or did you work at it for several years

????? Do you have some proof that what is being said is false? Your slam is
baseless without proof.
.
User: "Animal buddy"

Title: Re: Fascist regime counterfeiting 24 Aug 2004 07:46:11 AM
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 02:32:44 GMT, "biasbros" <biasbros@prodigy.net>
wrote:


"Animal buddy" <libnow@defendanimals.org> wrote in message
news:1c9li0d176sbtfdquvbbes2nkuipbgsrjr@4ax.com...

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:30:01 GMT,

(George
Washington Hayduke) wrote:

"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Vendicar Decarian" <VD@Pyro.net> wrote in message
news:ZgzVc.7284$%m4.1252809@read2.cgocable.net...

"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ebidnfSq3Pd0tL3cRVn-tw@hemc.net...

The primary cause of inflation is the printing of unbacked money.

That is one cause among many.


Historicly speaking printing unbacked money is the primary cause of
inflation. There are many examples in Ameican history as early as the
early 1700's, and during the Ameican Revolution. George Washington
is recorded as lamenting to Congress that a wagon load of goods cost
a wagan load of money.


We also saw that this fascist regime has been and continues to

counterfeit

Iraqi money as a weapon against the people of Iraq. It was covered in a
series of complaints the brave people of Iraq managed to voice before

being

brutally put down by the Bush fascists.


Were you born this stupid, or did you work at it for several years


????? Do you have some proof that what is being said is false? Your slam is
baseless without proof.

When the other side does more than post baseless claims I will be
happy to respond quid-pro-quo
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User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10 Jun 2004 08:20:45 AM
In article <jhachm-458479.23303709062004@news-60.giganews.com>,
jhachm@ixpresremove.com says...

In article <MPG.1b3156bf709e0339989842@news.individual.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

First let me say that any complaints or accusations of "hate",
"intolerance", "denigration", etc will be completely ignored, so don't
even bother. I don't apologize for hating Hitler and I don't apologize
for hating his political analog Ronald Reagan. Also, all invocations of
Godwin's law will automatically mark you as a moron and will be
discarded.

Now down to business. I'm tired of all the lying praise and
motherfucking honors being heaped on that crooked, criminal, turn-coat,
rapist, ***** sucker Reagan. Organizations like the stock market are
talking about shutting down on Friday to honor that terrorist-loving war
criminal Ronzo al Reagan. Appropriately, shutting down the stock
exchange and other institutions will waste a lot of money, which is
exactly what Ronnie did the whole time he was president. Many other
presidents have not been afforded similar honors and it's unacceptable
that a piece of human garbage like Reagan should be elevated to such a
high stature.


Ronnie's friend Arnie is shutting down the State of California. All
state offices will be closed and there will be no delivery. I say:
Enough, already!

I teach at a community college and the regents apparently decided
yesterday that they would shut down the school on Friday in Reagan's
honor. I quipped to my colleagues that there could not be a more
appropriate way to honor Reagan than to shut down a school and not allow
students to learn anything for a day. It's not that I mind getting the
day off, of course, since I plan to use it to protest the policies of
the Reagan administration. I guess from a positive perspective I get to
commemorate Reagan by forgetting to come to work for a day :).
But as an aside, financial aid disbursement is still going on and a lot
of students were going to be really fucking pissed if they didn't get
their beer money, erm I mean student grants and loans. So apparently
the regents have now decided that everything on campus will close
*except* the financial aid office.



These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for kings
or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a democracy.

Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.

Dump the rotting carcass in a hole

Why waste a perfectly good hole, when the dogs and vultures will happily
help dispose of the body. At least Reagan's might might end up being
good for something in the end.

and be done with it. There is
absolutely no point in worshipping the dead.

No, there isn't any *rational* point in doing it. But what we're seeing
from the right is an irrational cult of personality that seeks to invent
a hero which bears little resemblance to the true Reagan.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.
User: "Robert Miller"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 28 Jul 2004 12:20:54 PM
"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b320e1455bb782a989849@news.individual.net...

In article <jhachm-458479.23303709062004@news-60.giganews.com>,
jhachm@ixpresremove.com says...

In article <MPG.1b3156bf709e0339989842@news.individual.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

First let me say that any complaints or accusations of "hate",
"intolerance", "denigration", etc will be completely ignored, so don't
even bother. I don't apologize for hating Hitler and I don't

apologize

for hating his political analog Ronald Reagan. Also, all invocations

of

Godwin's law will automatically mark you as a moron and will be
discarded.

Now down to business. I'm tired of all the lying praise and
motherfucking honors being heaped on that crooked, criminal,

turn-coat,

rapist, ***** sucker Reagan. Organizations like the stock market are
talking about shutting down on Friday to honor that terrorist-loving

war

criminal Ronzo al Reagan. Appropriately, shutting down the stock
exchange and other institutions will waste a lot of money, which is
exactly what Ronnie did the whole time he was president. Many other
presidents have not been afforded similar honors and it's unacceptable
that a piece of human garbage like Reagan should be elevated to such a
high stature.


Ronnie's friend Arnie is shutting down the State of California. All
state offices will be closed and there will be no delivery. I say:
Enough, already!


I teach at a community college and the regents apparently decided
yesterday that they would shut down the school on Friday in Reagan's
honor. I quipped to my colleagues that there could not be a more
appropriate way to honor Reagan than to shut down a school and not allow
students to learn anything for a day. It's not that I mind getting the
day off, of course, since I plan to use it to protest the policies of
the Reagan administration. I guess from a positive perspective I get to
commemorate Reagan by forgetting to come to work for a day :).
But as an aside, financial aid disbursement is still going on and a lot
of students were going to be really fucking pissed if they didn't get
their beer money, erm I mean student grants and loans. So apparently
the regents have now decided that everything on campus will close
*except* the financial aid office.

My Grandfather in-law feels the same way you do. He is a dyed in the
wool Communist. He lived under Stalin, and believes that Stalin was a
great leader. Now he is old, bitter, and free to say as he pleases without
having to worry about the local police taking him for weeks of questioning.
Isn't life just wonderful? :-)



These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for kings
or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a democracy.


Stalin had a Grand funeral! And he was a Communist! Many were crushed
to death in an effort to view his body.


Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.

What do you know about being an American? I rather think you have not
one simple quality of what it took to Create the nation of Ameica, except
perhaps the quality to take from those that have, and give it to those that
have not. For example from the American Indians, or the Creation of a
Welfare State.
Where the average High School dropout is much more likely to join the
Democrat Party! To me that says something. If they were so smart why
didn't they finish school. The Average Collage Grad is more likely to join
the Republican Party. Why? I think it's because an educated population
has never choosen Socialism, or Communism over Capitalism. The
Democrats being largely Socialists, Communists, and Anarchists.


Dump the rotting carcass in a hole


Why waste a perfectly good hole, when the dogs and vultures will happily
help dispose of the body. At least Reagan's might might end up being
good for something in the end.


and be done with it. There is
absolutely no point in worshipping the dead.


No, there isn't any *rational* point in doing it. But what we're seeing
from the right is an irrational cult of personality that seeks to invent
a hero which bears little resemblance to the true Reagan.


--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins

Robert Miller
The most common form of child abuse today is sending your childern to
Public School.
Neil Boortz
:-)
.
User: "Alric Knebel"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 29 Jul 2004 11:33:15 AM
"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote:


My Grandfather in-law feels the same way you do. He is a dyed in the
wool Communist. He lived under Stalin, and believes that Stalin was a
great leader. Now he is old, bitter, and free to say as he pleases

without

having to worry about the local police taking him for weeks of

questioning.


Isn't life just wonderful? :-)

So, you drag communism into every thread? I guess to an idiot like you,
life really is wonderful all the time. :-)

These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for

kings

or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a

democracy.


Stalin had a Grand funeral! And he was a Communist! Many were crushed
to death in an effort to view his body.


Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.


What do you know about being an American? I rather think you have not
one simple quality of what it took to Create the nation of Ameica, except
perhaps the quality to take from those that have, and give it to those

that

have not. For example from the American Indians, or the Creation of a
Welfare State.

You do know that republic states have existed for a couple of thousand
years, right? Rome? Greece? A couple of Indian nations were outright
democratic. The creation of America was just the same sort of government as
that left behind, minus a king. A king, however, was by that time almost a
figurehead. But there were parliamentary bodies and so on. They had them
in France, too. Those are the ones I'm aware of. Goofy undereducated
citizens of our country (the United States) like to promote this government
we have as some sort of historical milestone, but it really isn't. It was
popular political theory, and it had been practiced before Christ.

Where the average High School dropout is much more likely to join the
Democrat Party! To me that says something. If they were so smart why
didn't they finish school. The Average Collage Grad is more likely to

join

the Republican Party. Why? I think it's because an educated population
has never choosen Socialism, or Communism over Capitalism. The
Democrats being largely Socialists, Communists, and Anarchists.


Dump the rotting carcass in a hole


Why waste a perfectly good hole, when the dogs and vultures will happily
help dispose of the body. At least Reagan's might might end up being
good for something in the end.


and be done with it. There is
absolutely no point in worshipping the dead.


No, there isn't any *rational* point in doing it. But what we're seeing
from the right is an irrational cult of personality that seeks to invent
a hero which bears little resemblance to the true Reagan.


--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins


Robert Miller

The most common form of child abuse today is sending your childern to
Public School.

Neil Boortz
:-)


.
User: "Robert Miller"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10 Aug 2004 11:03:47 PM
"Alric Knebel" <alric@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:8F9Oc.2665$N_6.472@bignews1.bellsouth.net...


"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote:


My Grandfather in-law feels the same way you do. He is a dyed in the
wool Communist. He lived under Stalin, and believes that Stalin was a
great leader. Now he is old, bitter, and free to say as he pleases

without

having to worry about the local police taking him for weeks of

questioning.


Isn't life just wonderful? :-)


So, you drag communism into every thread? I guess to an idiot like you,
life really is wonderful all the time. :-)

These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for

kings

or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a

democracy.


Stalin had a Grand funeral! And he was a Communist! Many were crushed
to death in an effort to view his body.


Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.


What do you know about being an American? I rather think you have not
one simple quality of what it took to Create the nation of Ameica,

except

perhaps the quality to take from those that have, and give it to those

that

have not. For example from the American Indians, or the Creation of a
Welfare State.


You do know that republic states have existed for a couple of thousand
years, right? Rome? Greece? A couple of Indian nations were outright
democratic. The creation of America was just the same sort of government

as

that left behind, minus a king. A king, however, was by that time almost

a

figurehead. But there were parliamentary bodies and so on. They had them
in France, too. Those are the ones I'm aware of. Goofy undereducated
citizens of our country (the United States) like to promote this

government

we have as some sort of historical milestone, but it really isn't. It was
popular political theory, and it had been practiced before Christ.

I even know the difference between a Republic and a Democracy. That the
Constitution garantees a Republican form of government, but the State
That a democracy can not protect the rights of the minority and can easily
be
manipulated by the media. A republic is governed by the rule of law and can
protect the rights of the minority because it is not governed by the rule of
the
majority.
I also know that Republics typically have a lifespan of about 200 years.
Our
Republic had a much shorter lifespan.

Where the average High School dropout is much more likely to join the
Democrat Party! To me that says something. If they were so smart why
didn't they finish school. The Average Collage Grad is more likely to

join

the Republican Party. Why? I think it's because an educated population
has never choosen Socialism, or Communism over Capitalism. The
Democrats being largely Socialists, Communists, and Anarchists.


Dump the rotting carcass in a hole


Why waste a perfectly good hole, when the dogs and vultures will

happily

help dispose of the body. At least Reagan's might might end up being
good for something in the end.


and be done with it. There is
absolutely no point in worshipping the dead.


No, there isn't any *rational* point in doing it. But what we're

seeing

from the right is an irrational cult of personality that seeks to

invent

a hero which bears little resemblance to the true Reagan.


--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins


Everyone puts their faith in something! Some put it in their Creator,
others in government. Still others put their faith in their money. I even
know people who put their faith in their political leaders of all places!

Robert Miller

The most common form of child abuse today is sending your childern to
Public School.

Neil Boortz
:-)




Robert Miller
member of www.norfed.org
Bringing Ameica back to value $1 at a time!
.

User: "Robert Miller"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 30 Jul 2004 01:16:29 AM
"Alric Knebel" <alric@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:8F9Oc.2665$N_6.472@bignews1.bellsouth.net...


"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote:


My Grandfather in-law feels the same way you do. He is a dyed in the
wool Communist. He lived under Stalin, and believes that Stalin was a
great leader. Now he is old, bitter, and free to say as he pleases

without

having to worry about the local police taking him for weeks of

questioning.


Isn't life just wonderful? :-)


So, you drag communism into every thread? I guess to an idiot like you,
life really is wonderful all the time. :-)

If you do a google search on my posts you'll see I seldom ever mention
communinisum. Contrary to what most believe communisum is a system of
economics, just as socialism, and capitalism are. Anyone who knows
anything about Ronald Reagan, knows that he hated Communism. Did you
notice that Gorbachev didn't hold a grudge? He was present at Ronald
Reagans memorial service.

These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for

kings

or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a

democracy.


Fortunately the United States was not set up to be a Democracy. Which is
one of the worst forms of government ever devised by man.

Stalin had a Grand funeral! And he was a Communist! Many were crushed
to death in an effort to view his body.


Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.


What do you know about being an American? I rather think you have not
one simple quality of what it took to Create the nation of Ameica,

except

perhaps the quality to take from those that have, and give it to those

that

have not. For example from the American Indians, or the Creation of a
Welfare State.


You do know that republic states have existed for a couple of thousand
years, right? Rome? Greece? A couple of Indian nations were outright
democratic. The creation of America was just the same sort of government

as

that left behind, minus a king. A king, however, was by that time almost

a

figurehead. But there were parliamentary bodies and so on. They had them
in France, too. Those are the ones I'm aware of. Goofy undereducated
citizens of our country (the United States) like to promote this

government

we have as some sort of historical milestone, but it really isn't. It was
popular political theory, and it had been practiced before Christ.

Where the average High School dropout is much more likely to join the
Democrat Party! To me that says something. If they were so smart why
didn't they finish school. The Average Collage Grad is more likely to

join

the Republican Party. Why? I think it's because an educated population
has never choosen Socialism, or Communism over Capitalism. The
Democrats being largely Socialists, Communists, and Anarchists.


Dump the rotting carcass in a hole


Why waste a perfectly good hole, when the dogs and vultures will

happily

help dispose of the body. At least Reagan's might might end up being
good for something in the end.


and be done with it. There is
absolutely no point in worshipping the dead.


No, there isn't any *rational* point in doing it. But what we're

seeing

from the right is an irrational cult of personality that seeks to

invent

a hero which bears little resemblance to the true Reagan.


--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins


Robert Miller

The most common form of child abuse today is sending your childern to
Public School.

Neil Boortz
:-)



Robert Miller
Member of www.norfed.org
Bringing America back to value $1 at a time!
.



User: "johac"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 Jun 2004 12:41:24 AM
In article <MPG.1b320e1455bb782a989849@news.individual.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

In article <jhachm-458479.23303709062004@news-60.giganews.com>,
jhachm@ixpresremove.com says...

In article <MPG.1b3156bf709e0339989842@news.individual.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

First let me say that any complaints or accusations of "hate",
"intolerance", "denigration", etc will be completely ignored, so don't
even bother. I don't apologize for hating Hitler and I don't apologize
for hating his political analog Ronald Reagan. Also, all invocations of
Godwin's law will automatically mark you as a moron and will be
discarded.

Now down to business. I'm tired of all the lying praise and
motherfucking honors being heaped on that crooked, criminal, turn-coat,
rapist, ***** sucker Reagan. Organizations like the stock market are
talking about shutting down on Friday to honor that terrorist-loving war
criminal Ronzo al Reagan. Appropriately, shutting down the stock
exchange and other institutions will waste a lot of money, which is
exactly what Ronnie did the whole time he was president. Many other
presidents have not been afforded similar honors and it's unacceptable
that a piece of human garbage like Reagan should be elevated to such a
high stature.


Ronnie's friend Arnie is shutting down the State of California. All
state offices will be closed and there will be no delivery. I say:
Enough, already!


I teach at a community college and the regents apparently decided
yesterday that they would shut down the school on Friday in Reagan's
honor. I quipped to my colleagues that there could not be a more
appropriate way to honor Reagan than to shut down a school and not allow
students to learn anything for a day. It's not that I mind getting the
day off, of course, since I plan to use it to protest the policies of
the Reagan administration. I guess from a positive perspective I get to
commemorate Reagan by forgetting to come to work for a day :).
But as an aside, financial aid disbursement is still going on and a lot
of students were going to be really fucking pissed if they didn't get
their beer money, erm I mean student grants and loans. So apparently
the regents have now decided that everything on campus will close
*except* the financial aid office.

I read this morning that Orange County will keep it's offices open.
According to one official the reason was that "Reagan would have wanted
it that way." More likely its due to local government offices being
understaffed thanks to Dubya's and Arnie's cuts.




These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for kings
or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a democracy.



Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.

I wonder how much this is costing the taxpayers for security in
Washington alone. A hell of a lot, I would imagine.



Dump the rotting carcass in a hole


Why waste a perfectly good hole, when the dogs and vultures will happily
help dispose of the body. At least Reagan's might might end up being
good for something in the end.

Puppy chow!



and be done with it. There is
absolutely no point in worshipping the dead.


No, there isn't any *rational* point in doing it. But what we're seeing
from the right is an irrational cult of personality that seeks to invent
a hero which bears little resemblance to the true Reagan.

I know. I'm tired of hearing about how 'beloved' he was. Much of the
same criticism leveled at the current occupant of the White House was
first brought to bear on Ronnie.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
.
User: "az-willie"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 Jun 2004 09:18:31 AM
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:41:24 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <MPG.1b320e1455bb782a989849@news.individual.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

In article <jhachm-458479.23303709062004@news-60.giganews.com>,
jhachm@ixpresremove.com says...

In article <MPG.1b3156bf709e0339989842@news.individual.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

First let me say that any complaints or accusations of "hate",
"intolerance", "denigration", etc will be completely ignored, so
don't even bother. I don't apologize for hating Hitler and I don't
apologize for hating his political analog Ronald Reagan. Also, all
invocations of Godwin's law will automatically mark you as a moron
and will be discarded.

Now down to business. I'm tired of all the lying praise and
motherfucking honors being heaped on that crooked, criminal,
turn-coat, rapist, ***** sucker Reagan. Organizations like the stock
market are talking about shutting down on Friday to honor that
terrorist-loving war criminal Ronzo al Reagan. Appropriately,
shutting down the stock exchange and other institutions will waste a
lot of money, which is exactly what Ronnie did the whole time he was
president. Many other presidents have not been afforded similar
honors and it's unacceptable that a piece of human garbage like
Reagan should be elevated to such a high stature.


Ronnie's friend Arnie is shutting down the State of California. All
state offices will be closed and there will be no delivery. I say:
Enough, already!


I teach at a community college and the regents apparently decided
yesterday that they would shut down the school on Friday in Reagan's
honor. I quipped to my colleagues that there could not be a more
appropriate way to honor Reagan than to shut down a school and not allow
students to learn anything for a day. It's not that I mind getting the
day off, of course, since I plan to use it to protest the policies of
the Reagan administration. I guess from a positive perspective I get to
commemorate Reagan by forgetting to come to work for a day :). But as an
aside, financial aid disbursement is still going on and a lot of
students were going to be really fucking pissed if they didn't get their
beer money, erm I mean student grants and loans. So apparently the
regents have now decided that everything on campus will close *except*
the financial aid office.


I read this morning that Orange County will keep it's offices open.
According to one official the reason was that "Reagan would have wanted it
that way." More likely its due to local government offices being
understaffed thanks to Dubya's and Arnie's cuts.




These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for
kings or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a
democracy.



Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.


I wonder how much this is costing the taxpayers for security in Washington
alone. A hell of a lot, I would imagine.



Dump the rotting carcass in a hole


Why waste a perfectly good hole, when the dogs and vultures will happily
help dispose of the body. At least Reagan's might might end up being
good for something in the end.


Puppy chow!



and be done with it. There is
absolutely no point in worshipping the dead.


No, there isn't any *rational* point in doing it. But what we're seeing
from the right is an irrational cult of personality that seeks to invent
a hero which bears little resemblance to the true Reagan.


I know. I'm tired of hearing about how 'beloved' he was. Much of the same
criticism leveled at the current occupant of the White House was first
brought to bear on Ronnie.

=========
Conservatives, and the media they own, are making a new Lincoln, and facts
be damned.
They own the media and no one can get any disapproval published in
mainstream media.
Liberal media my *****.
We've all known what a lie that has been and now they prove it. If there
was any liberal media left they would be publishing the true history of
the Reagan administration ... how he quadrupled the national debt, how he
began the " greed is good " movement, how he traded arms for hostages,
etc. etc. etc. etc.
--
I don't hate Bush ... I hate what he DOES ... you're damned right I do.

No .. No .. I < do > hate Bush. I hate him BECAUSE of what he does.

So call me a proud Bush Hater.
.
User: "Robert Miller"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10 Aug 2004 10:42:32 PM
"az-willie" <sclause@npole.com> wrote in message
news:Xajyc.31556$%T.24296@okepread05...

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:41:24 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <MPG.1b320e1455bb782a989849@news.individual.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

In article <jhachm-458479.23303709062004@news-60.giganews.com>,
jhachm@ixpresremove.com says...

In article <MPG.1b3156bf709e0339989842@news.individual.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

First let me say that any complaints or accusations of "hate",
"intolerance", "denigration", etc will be completely ignored, so
don't even bother. I don't apologize for hating Hitler and I don't
apologize for hating his political analog Ronald Reagan. Also, all
invocations of Godwin's law will automatically mark you as a moron
and will be discarded.

Now down to business. I'm tired of all the lying praise and
motherfucking honors being heaped on that crooked, criminal,
turn-coat, rapist, ***** sucker Reagan. Organizations like the

stock

market are talking about shutting down on Friday to honor that
terrorist-loving war criminal Ronzo al Reagan. Appropriately,
shutting down the stock exchange and other institutions will waste

a

lot of money, which is exactly what Ronnie did the whole time he

was

president. Many other presidents have not been afforded similar
honors and it's unacceptable that a piece of human garbage like
Reagan should be elevated to such a high stature.


Ronnie's friend Arnie is shutting down the State of California. All
state offices will be closed and there will be no delivery. I say:
Enough, already!


I teach at a community college and the regents apparently decided
yesterday that they would shut down the school on Friday in Reagan's
honor. I quipped to my colleagues that there could not be a more
appropriate way to honor Reagan than to shut down a school and not

allow

students to learn anything for a day. It's not that I mind getting the
day off, of course, since I plan to use it to protest the policies of
the Reagan administration. I guess from a positive perspective I get

to

commemorate Reagan by forgetting to come to work for a day :). But as

an

aside, financial aid disbursement is still going on and a lot of
students were going to be really fucking pissed if they didn't get

their

beer money, erm I mean student grants and loans. So apparently the
regents have now decided that everything on campus will close *except*
the financial aid office.


I read this morning that Orange County will keep it's offices open.
According to one official the reason was that "Reagan would have wanted

it

that way." More likely its due to local government offices being
understaffed thanks to Dubya's and Arnie's cuts.




These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for
kings or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a
democracy.



Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.


I wonder how much this is costing the taxpayers for security in

Washington

alone. A hell of a lot, I would imagine.



Dump the rotting carcass in a hole


Why waste a perfectly good hole, when the dogs and vultures will

happily

help dispose of the body. At least Reagan's might might end up being
good for something in the end.


Puppy chow!



and be done with it. There is
absolutely no point in worshipping the dead.


No, there isn't any *rational* point in doing it. But what we're

seeing

from the right is an irrational cult of personality that seeks to

invent

a hero which bears little resemblance to the true Reagan.


I know. I'm tired of hearing about how 'beloved' he was. Much of the

same

criticism leveled at the current occupant of the White House was first
brought to bear on Ronnie.

=========
Conservatives, and the media they own, are making a new Lincoln, and facts
be damned.

They own the media and no one can get any disapproval published in
mainstream media.

Liberal media my *****.

Liberal media or Conservative media all depends on your frame of refference.
For me there is very little Conservative media and for you there is very
little
Liberal media.
Sounds like I would have to describe you as very liberal to extremely
liberal.
Perhaps even so far as being a socialist, or even a communist.

We've all known what a lie that has been and now they prove it. If there
was any liberal media left they would be publishing the true history of
the Reagan administration ... how he quadrupled the national debt, how he
began the " greed is good " movement, how he traded arms for hostages,
etc. etc. etc. etc.

It's not the President who spends the money! It's the Congress. Did not
the Democrats control the Congress during the Regean Presidency? All a
President can do is propose a budget. It's up to the Congress to pass the
budget or write a different budget.

--
I don't hate Bush ... I hate what he DOES ... you're damned right I do.

No .. No .. I < do > hate Bush. I hate him BECAUSE of what he does.

So call me a proud Bush Hater.

To hate someone is one step short of murder.
Robert Miller
member of www.norfed.org
Bringing Ameica back to value $1 at a time!
.
User: "Alric Knebel"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 Aug 2004 09:33:18 AM
"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote:


Liberal media or Conservative media all depends on your frame of

refference.

For me there is very little Conservative media and for you there is very
little
Liberal media.
Sounds like I would have to describe you as very liberal to extremely
liberal.
Perhaps even so far as being a socialist, or even a communist.

And if you don't see conservative media, I'd have to classify you as
extremely conservative. Perhaps fascist or Nazi.

To hate someone is one step short of murder.

Another pretentious and phony statement by you. If you were just half as
smart as you thought, you'd have something worthwhile to say.
Alric
.
User: "Robert Miller"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 Aug 2004 01:34:03 PM
"Alric Knebel" <alric@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:i6qSc.479$912.242@bignews1.bellsouth.net...


"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote:


Liberal media or Conservative media all depends on your frame of

refference.

For me there is very little Conservative media and for you there is very
little
Liberal media.
Sounds like I would have to describe you as very liberal to extremely
liberal.
Perhaps even so far as being a socialist, or even a communist.


And if you don't see conservative media, I'd have to classify you as
extremely conservative. Perhaps fascist or Nazi.

Now we have to define Conservative and Liberal not to mention Nazi and
facist if we are to know what each other are talking about, Right?
First I strive for intellectual honesty, and try very hard cut cut through
all the
propoganda on the left and the right.
Then I would have to say that I am a hardline Constitutional conservative,
Thomas Jeffersonian Libertarian, and I believe that for every dollar in
circulation
there should be a dollars worth of silver or gold in a warehouse backing
that
dollar
Since we won the 2nd World War and the victor always writes the history, I
can
be sure that the Allies made some exagerations and embellishments of the
facts.
It's been over a hundred years since the Cival War and many people still
believe
it was about slavery and that Lincoln freed the Slaves. Both of which are
fiction.
Facism: Simply means Authoritaian Rule. Since I believe that a person
should
be allowed to do pretty much as they please so long as they do not interfer
with
another persons natural rights. I am probably not a facist.
So how do you define these terms and well start a dialog with a common frame
of refference.


To hate someone is one step short of murder.


Another pretentious and phony statement by you. If you were just half as
smart as you thought, you'd have something worthwhile to say.

Either that or I'd wait until you said something worthwhile to respond too.

Alric

Robert Miller
member of www.norfed.org
Bringing Ameica back to value $1 at a time!
.
User: "Robert Miller"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 13 Aug 2004 02:39:10 PM
"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-t-dnVBjVt_r-4fcRVn-tg@hemc.net...

"Alric Knebel" <alric@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:i6qSc.479$912.242@bignews1.bellsouth.net...


"Robert Miller" <stargazzr@hotmail.com> wrote:


Liberal media or Conservative media all depends on your frame of

refference.

For me there is very little Conservative media and for you there is

very

little
Liberal media.
Sounds like I would have to describe you as very liberal to extremely
liberal.
Perhaps even so far as being a socialist, or even a communist.


And if you don't see conservative media, I'd have to classify you as
extremely conservative. Perhaps fascist or Nazi.


Now we have to define Conservative and Liberal not to mention Nazi and
facist if we are to know what each other are talking about, Right?

It's interesting why you wont or can't define these terms. Afraid to expose
the many chinks in your armor?

First I strive for intellectual honesty, and try very hard cut cut through
all the
propoganda on the left and the right.

Then I would have to say that I am a hardline Constitutional conservative,
Thomas Jeffersonian Libertarian, and I believe that for every dollar in
circulation
there should be a dollars worth of silver or gold in a warehouse backing
that
dollar

Since we won the 2nd World War and the victor always writes the history, I
can
be sure that the Allies made some exagerations and embellishments of the
facts.
It's been over a hundred years since the Cival War and many people still
believe
it was about slavery and that Lincoln freed the Slaves. Both of which are
fiction.

Facism: Simply means Authoritaian Rule. Since I believe that a person
should
be allowed to do pretty much as they please so long as they do not

interfer

with
another persons natural rights. I am probably not a facist.

So how do you define these terms and well start a dialog with a common

frame

of refference.


To hate someone is one step short of murder.


Another pretentious and phony statement by you. If you were just half

as

smart as you thought, you'd have something worthwhile to say.

Preentious and phony? a simple statement of fact. The ultimate in
disrespect is
hate. Or would you propose someting else?
Since you never offer anything of substance, I can assume you are and empty
hearted liberal as you are empty headed and bitter.
Take away you insults and what do you have to express your thoughts?


Either that or I'd wait until you said something worthwhile to respond

too.


Alric


Robert Miller
member of www.norfed.org
Bringing Ameica back to value $1 at a time!


We should all stand in the breech when we see an injustice commited.
Robert Miller
member of www.norfed.org
Bringing Ameica back to value $1 at a time!
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traffic citation whenever I presented this writ to an officer when I was
pulled
over. Even though my automobile should have been impounded and I
should have at least been on foot if not in jail. In fact the olnly
responce
I did get on two different occasions was. "Have a nice evening sir!"
Not bad for a moron! eh?
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User: "Beowulf"

Title: Re: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 Jun 2004 10:37:56 AM
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:18:31 -0700, az-willie <sclause@npole.com>
ejaculated:


Liberal media my *****.

We've all known what a lie that has been and now they prove it. If there
was any liberal media left they would be publishing the true history of
the Reagan administration ... how he quadrupled the national debt, how he
began the " greed is good " movement, how he traded arms for hostages,
etc. etc. etc. etc.

Let's not forget that Ronnie was funding the mujahadeen in
Afghanistan, in other words, many of the same people we ended up
fighting against in 2002.
Or that Saddam Hussein was an ally during Reagan's administration.
Or that Noriega was one of our friends during Reagan's administration.
--
"Swaying to the rhythm of the new world order and
Count the bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums"
-- A Perfect Circle, "Pet"
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 12 Jun 2004 01:31:23 AM
In article <9ekjc0htsko1eh7el9apcqfpvvq7hhqv82@4ax.com>,
Beowulf <beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:18:31 -0700, az-willie <sclause@npole.com>
ejaculated:


Liberal media my *****.

We've all known what a lie that has been and now they prove it. If there
was any liberal media left they would be publishing the true history of
the Reagan administration ... how he quadrupled the national debt, how he
began the " greed is good " movement, how he traded arms for hostages,
etc. etc. etc. etc.


Let's not forget that Ronnie was funding the mujahadeen in
Afghanistan, in other words, many of the same people we ended up
fighting against in 2002.

Or that Saddam Hussein was an ally during Reagan's administration.

Or that Noriega was one of our friends during Reagan's administration.


Or that he sponsored terrorism in Nicaragua with funds from illegally
selling arms to Iran, another state sponsoring terrorism. After
Hizbullah, a terrorist organization sponsored by Iran, killed over 200
of our marines in Lebanon, he took it out on Grenada by invading the
tiny island to save some American students from bloodthirsty Communist
mobs that didn't exist.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
.



User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 Jun 2004 08:21:57 AM
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-53C084.22412410062004@news-60.giganews.com:

In article <MPG.1b320e1455bb782a989849@news.individual.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

In article <jhachm-458479.23303709062004@news-60.giganews.com>,
jhachm@ixpresremove.com says...

In article <MPG.1b3156bf709e0339989842@news.individual.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

First let me say that any complaints or accusations of "hate",
"intolerance", "denigration", etc will be completely ignored, so
don't even bother. I don't apologize for hating Hitler and I
don't apologize for hating his political analog Ronald Reagan.
Also, all invocations of Godwin's law will automatically mark you
as a moron and will be discarded.

Now down to business. I'm tired of all the lying praise and
motherfucking honors being heaped on that crooked, criminal,
turn-coat, rapist, ***** sucker Reagan. Organizations like the
stock market are talking about shutting down on Friday to honor
that terrorist-loving war criminal Ronzo al Reagan.
Appropriately, shutting down the stock exchange and other
institutions will waste a lot of money, which is exactly what
Ronnie did the whole time he was president. Many other
presidents have not been afforded similar honors and it's
unacceptable that a piece of human garbage like Reagan should be
elevated to such a high stature.


Ronnie's friend Arnie is shutting down the State of California. All
state offices will be closed and there will be no delivery. I say:
Enough, already!


I teach at a community college and the regents apparently decided
yesterday that they would shut down the school on Friday in Reagan's
honor. I quipped to my colleagues that there could not be a more
appropriate way to honor Reagan than to shut down a school and not
allow students to learn anything for a day. It's not that I mind
getting the day off, of course, since I plan to use it to protest the
policies of the Reagan administration. I guess from a positive
perspective I get to commemorate Reagan by forgetting to come to work
for a day :). But as an aside, financial aid disbursement is still
going on and a lot of students were going to be really fucking pissed
if they didn't get their beer money, erm I mean student grants and
loans. So apparently the regents have now decided that everything on
campus will close *except* the financial aid office.


I read this morning that Orange County will keep it's offices open.
According to one official the reason was that "Reagan would have
wanted it that way." More likely its due to local government offices
being understaffed thanks to Dubya's and Arnie's cuts.




These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for
kings or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a
democracy.



Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.


I wonder how much this is costing the taxpayers for security in
Washington alone. A hell of a lot, I would imagine.



Dump the rotting carcass in a hole


Why waste a perfectly good hole, when the dogs and vultures will
happily help dispose of the body. At least Reagan's might might end
up being good for something in the end.


Puppy chow!



and be done with it. There is
absolutely no point in worshipping the dead.


No, there isn't any *rational* point in doing it. But what we're
seeing from the right is an irrational cult of personality that seeks
to invent a hero which bears little resemblance to the true Reagan.


I know. I'm tired of hearing about how 'beloved' he was. Much of the
same criticism leveled at the current occupant of the White House was
first brought to bear on Ronnie.

And we all know from your recent posts how much it must gall you to see
it all repudiated, in public, by practically the entire news media.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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User: "MrPepper11"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10 Jun 2004 07:16:21 PM
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1b320e1455bb782a989849@news.individual.net>...


These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for kings
or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a democracy.



Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.

Notice how Democrats have been completely shut out of the Reagan
festivities. Kinda hateful, ain't it?
.
User: "George"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 Jun 2004 01:17:53 AM
"MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> wrote in message
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quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:<MPG.1b320e1455bb782a989849@news.individual.net>...


These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for

kings

or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a

democracy.



Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.


Notice how Democrats have been completely shut out of the Reagan
festivities. Kinda hateful, ain't it?

***** them.
.

User: "BILL"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10 Jun 2004 09:22:13 PM
"MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> wrote in message
news:57cfd534.0406101616.4522eabd@posting.google.com...

quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:<MPG.1b320e1455bb782a989849@news.individual.net>...


These elaborate, costly 'state funerals' seem more appropriate for

kings

or third world dictators but I don't think we need them in a

democracy.



Absolutely. Republicans right now are prancing around like little
divine right monarchists. It's completely unamerican and disgusting.


Notice how Democrats have been completely shut out of the Reagan
festivities. Kinda hateful, ain't it?

Not really, he was a pretty partisan President and a pretty staunch
conservative. I'm not surprised at all his funeral is full of conservatives
like Bush I and Mulroney who helped kill the American and Canadian economies
and who's spending and deficits made Reagan look like a cheap ***** in
comparison.
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User: "Beowulf"

Title: Re: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 Jun 2004 10:35:01 AM
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:22:13 -0400, "BILL"
<kickbushout@NOSPAMhotmail.com> ejaculated:


"MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> wrote in message


Notice how Democrats have been completely shut out of the Reagan
festivities. Kinda hateful, ain't it?


Not really, he was a pretty partisan President and a pretty staunch
conservative.

I'm not sure how you figure he was "pretty partisan". He was a fairly
popular president. The phenomenon of "Reagan Democrats" suggests that
he had a wider appeal than you suggest.
I wouldn't argue that he was quite conservative, though.
--
"Swaying to the rhythm of the new world order and
Count the bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums"
-- A Perfect Circle, "Pet"
.




User: "Sean C"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 Jun 2004 02:35:16 AM
In article <MPG.1b3156bf709e0339989842@news.individual.net>, quibbler
<quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

First let me say that any complaints or accusations of "hate",
"intolerance", "denigration", etc will be completely ignored, so don't
even bother. I don't apologize for hating Hitler and I don't apologize
for hating his political analog Ronald Reagan. Also, all invocations of
Godwin's law will automatically mark you as a moron and will be
discarded.

Now down to business. I'm tired of all the lying praise and
motherfucking honors being heaped on that crooked, criminal, turn-coat,
rapist, ***** sucker Reagan. Organizations like the stock market are
talking about shutting down on Friday to honor that terrorist-loving war
criminal Ronzo al Reagan. Appropriately, shutting down the stock
exchange and other institutions will waste a lot of money, which is
exactly what Ronnie did the whole time he was president. Many other
presidents have not been afforded similar honors and it's unacceptable
that a piece of human garbage like Reagan should be elevated to such a
high stature.

I hear you. I've about had it with the international wankfest going on
over this ignorant *****. If I hear someone else saying how this
"great leader" gave us "hope in the midst of despair" or other such
horsehit, I'm gonna retch. I'm especially fed up with all this "you
have to honor the dead" crap, as if saying bad things about him is
somehow going to hurt his feelings. He's dead. He's a fucking corpse.
And I don't give a ***** about it, or feel sorry for him. I'm tired of
this corporate media-conditioned crap that says I'm a heartless *****
if I dare speak ill of him. I hated the *****, and I make no apology
for it. I didn't care for Caligula, Vlad the Impaler, or the Son of
Sam, either, but nobody will call me a monster for saying anything
about them.
This fascist thug was responsible for the deaths of over 150,000 people
in Central America alone. He betrayed his country, selling deadly
anti-tank weapons to a hostile, totalitarian nation to fund the death
squads responsible for that slaughter. He was a fanatical
anti-communist who shamelessly took credit for the Soviet Union's
internal collapse, while supporting a plan to make the genocidal and
very communist Khmer Rouge the legitimate leaders of Cambodia. Seems he
never met a homicidal maniac he didn't like. At home, he demonized the
poor and the working class of this country, as if they too were the
enemy. He totally ignored the AIDS crisis for years, and he cut
education benefits for our kids, calling ketchup a "vegetable" for
purposes of school nutrition.
Reagan was not a great American. He was a murdering piece of *****, and
It's high time we scraped this piece of ***** and his legacy off the
Great American shoe.
When Bill Clinton left office, I watched a show on CNN talking about
his legacy. It went something like this:
"Monica, monica, MONICA!, Moooooonica, MONica, Monica ,Monica, MONICA."
Yet all I'm hearing now is a litany of Reagan's alleged acomplishments:
all vague, feel-good stuff, and nothing concrete, because there is
nothing concrete to point to. So much for the "liberal" media.
It's all *****.
Sean C
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User: "Beowulf"

Title: Re: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 Jun 2004 10:40:10 AM
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 03:35:16 -0400, Sean C <redhawk@hvc.rr.com>
ejaculated:


"Monica, monica, MONICA!, Moooooonica, MONica, Monica ,Monica, MONICA."

Yet all I'm hearing now is a litany of Reagan's alleged acomplishments:
all vague, feel-good stuff, and nothing concrete, because there is
nothing concrete to point to. So much for the "liberal" media.

Just wait until Clinton dies...especially if it's in a tragic manner,
like in a plane crash or something. He will suddenly become the
greatest, most moral president in history.
At least until the next president dies.
--
"Swaying to the rhythm of the new world order and
Count the bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums"
-- A Perfect Circle, "Pet"
.
User: "Sean C"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 12 Jun 2004 01:39:33 AM
In article <sgkjc09r0phk4gq5i1c7c2l7jglt4lvl2a@4ax.com>, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 03:35:16 -0400, Sean C <redhawk@hvc.rr.com>
ejaculated:


"Monica, monica, MONICA!, Moooooonica, MONica, Monica ,Monica, MONICA."

Yet all I'm hearing now is a litany of Reagan's alleged acomplishments:
all vague, feel-good stuff, and nothing concrete, because there is
nothing concrete to point to. So much for the "liberal" media.


Just wait until Clinton dies...especially if it's in a tragic manner,
like in a plane crash or something. He will suddenly become the
greatest, most moral president in history.

At least until the next president dies.

I highly doubt it. I imagine he will get as much respect from the likes
of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell as they gave the 3,000 Americans
brutally murdered on 9/11. I suspect the same low-crawlers who
slithered out from under their rocks to exploit 9/11 will do the same
for Clinton.
And we will hear about little else but Monica.
Sean C
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User: "Apostate"

Title: Re: PROTEST REAGAN DAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 Jun 2004 04:03:15 PM
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:40:10 -0400, Beowulf <beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote in
alt.atheism:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 03:35:16 -0400, Sean C <redhawk@hvc.rr.com>
ejaculated:


"Monica, monica, MONICA!, Moooooonica, MONica, Monica ,Monica, MONICA."

Yet all I'm hearing now is a litany of Reagan's alleged acomplishments:
all vague, feel-good stuff, and nothing concrete, because there is
nothing concrete to point to. So much for the "liberal" media.


Just wait until Clinton dies...especially if it's in a tragic manner,
like in a plane crash or something. He will suddenly become the
greatest, most moral president in history.

*****!
The Republicans in the House won't miss a beat: they'll promptly
re-impeach him posthumously, lest they be cheated out of the full measure
of expression of their fanatical and irrational demon-hatred of the man.
65


At least until the next president dies.

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