In our last episode, <6N%ig.70762$QU3.37964@bignews8.bellsouth.net>, the
lovely and talented Johnny broadcast on alt.politics.homosexuality:

Yon don't understand the 14th Amendment very well.
You are lobbying for unequal protection.

Nonsense.

You currently think that homosexuals are not protected equally to married
persons, yet your lobby for only awarding same-sex persons the right to
marry is doing nothing for any single person who is not currently
married.

Yes. Yes, it is.

You see, the freedom of speech does not actually require
you to speak. And the freedom to marry does not actually require you to
marry.

Removing sex discrimination from marriage would increase everyone's
rights, because everyone would gain the right to marry regardless of sex.

The right to marry is moot to the 14th Amendment as it pertains to
unmarried
persons who do not want to marry.

It is moot only if you choose to make it so.

A person who chooses not to
speak, has the freedom of speech even if he does not exercise it.

And he is in a different situation from a person who remains silent
because the state
requires him to be silent.

Johnny wrote:

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1149989748.704213.148150@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

youngopinions@aol.com wrote:

The following link will direct you to the appropriate site. Below the
link
is a copy of the petition.

https://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=PT06C01&f=PG03I03&track=0

Dear Senator,

As a citizen concerned about the protection of marriage and the future
strength of families, I ask for your strong stand in defending
marriage
as
the union of one man and one woman. Right now activist judges seek to
undo
the will expressed by an overwhelming majority of Americans committed
to
traditional marriage. Whether by state courts in Massachusetts or
federal
courts in Nebraska, marriage as an institution is under assault and
poised
to be redefined. I ask that you would allow my voice, and the voice of
millions, to be heard on this crucial issue by sending to the states
for
ratification an amendment to the U.S. Constitution reserving marriage
as
only the union between one man and one woman. Our children deserve
both a
mother and a father and public policy should promote this noble
institution.
Please support the Marriage Protection Amendment when considered by
the
U.S.
Senate this June. Thank you and God bless.

Sincerely your constituent,

Sorry, but I shall never sign a petition that asks our representatives
to violate people's equal rights and write bigotry into the
Constitution.

Marriage is NOT under assault. The only people that think that are
bigots like you that do not want homosexuals to have the same rights as
you do. Nobody is trying to get rid of marriage or change it in any
substantial way. The Marriage Protection Amendment is one of the worst
named amendments or bills that I have ever heard of since it does
nothing to protect marriage, but rather seeks to DENY marriage to a
segment of the population, and thus weaken marriage as an institution.
If it was really for protecting marriage, it would be expanding the
laws concerning marriage to allow marriage between homosexual couples,
as is actually required by the 14th Amendment.

Yon don't understand the 14th Amendment very well.

I understand it far, far better than you do.

You are lobbying for unequal protection.

Nope.

I am lobbying for equal rights and equal protection.

You currently think that homosexuals are not protected equally to married
persons,

Nope.

They are not treated equally to heterosexual people because they
cannot get married in the same manner and for the same reasons as
heterosexual people.

yet your lobby for only awarding same-sex persons the right to
marry

Because homosexual persons are currently denied that right.

Heterosexuals have that right, and thus there is no reason for anyone
to try to get them that right.

is doing nothing for any single person who is not currently married.

That is because any single, heterosexual person can get married if he
or she so chooses.

The right to marry is moot to the 14th Amendment as it pertains to
unmarried
persons who do not want to marry.

That is their choice.

Nobody is forcing anyone to get married,

yet homosexuals are prevented from getting married.

Besides, single people
DO have the same rights as married people.

Just because you cannot use
a right does not mean that you do not have it.

For example, men have the right to get a legal abortion for any pregnancy
that they
experience that they do not want to continue.

The fact that they
cannot get pregnant does not take away that right.

But then, you are too blind to see your own hatred and intolerance, or
else you actually revel in it.

What hatred?

Your hatred of homosexuals.

You have made that hatred clear on a
number of occasions.

I see that you hate that homosexuals are not allowed to marry.

Now you are making no sense.

I do not hate homosexuals at all.

That is why I am trying to get them the same rights that heterosexuals
take
for granted. Whether or not they choose to exercise that right is
their business.

site for you to look thinks up on.

http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/rightsof/equal.htm
"- C H A P T E R 11 -
Equal Protection of the Law
Nor shall any State . . . deny to any person within its jurisdiction
the equal protection of the laws.
- Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution"

"When Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence that
"all men are created equal," he did not mean social or economic
egalitarianism. Rather he and others of the Founding generation
believed that society by its nature could never be socially or
economically homogeneous because men differ in their abilities and
virtues. They did not want to level society, but rather give to each
individual the opportunity to make the most of his abilities. In order
for this opportunity to exist, all men (and at the time they were only
concerned with men) had to stand before the law on an equal footing.
There could not be one law for the rich and another for the poor,
although the Founders ignored the fact that there was clearly one law
for white people and another for slaves. A generation later, when
Andrew Jackson's Democrats talked about equality, they meant the same
thing - equality of opportunity based on equal treatment by the law."

Very simply, the fact that you cannot seem to understand is that equal
rights means equal opportunity under the law, and equal footing with
respect to the law.

Johnny wrote:

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1149989748.704213.148150@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

youngopinions@aol.com wrote:

The following link will direct you to the appropriate site. Below the
link
is a copy of the petition.

https://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=PT06C01&f=PG03I03&track=0

Dear Senator,

As a citizen concerned about the protection of marriage and the future
strength of families, I ask for your strong stand in defending
marriage
as
the union of one man and one woman. Right now activist judges seek to
undo
the will expressed by an overwhelming majority of Americans committed
to
traditional marriage. Whether by state courts in Massachusetts or
federal
courts in Nebraska, marriage as an institution is under assault and
poised
to be redefined. I ask that you would allow my voice, and the voice of
millions, to be heard on this crucial issue by sending to the states
for
ratification an amendment to the U.S. Constitution reserving marriage
as
only the union between one man and one woman. Our children deserve
both a
mother and a father and public policy should promote this noble
institution.
Please support the Marriage Protection Amendment when considered by
the
U.S.
Senate this June. Thank you and God bless.

Sincerely your constituent,

Sorry, but I shall never sign a petition that asks our representatives
to violate people's equal rights and write bigotry into the
Constitution.

Marriage is NOT under assault. The only people that think that are
bigots like you that do not want homosexuals to have the same rights as
you do. Nobody is trying to get rid of marriage or change it in any
substantial way. The Marriage Protection Amendment is one of the worst
named amendments or bills that I have ever heard of since it does
nothing to protect marriage, but rather seeks to DENY marriage to a
segment of the population, and thus weaken marriage as an institution.
If it was really for protecting marriage, it would be expanding the
laws concerning marriage to allow marriage between homosexual couples,
as is actually required by the 14th Amendment.

Yon don't understand the 14th Amendment very well.
You are lobbying for unequal protection.
You currently think that homosexuals are not protected equally to married
persons, yet your lobby for only awarding same-sex persons the right to
marry is doing nothing for any single person who is not currently
married.
The right to marry is moot to the 14th Amendment as it pertains to
unmarried
persons who do not want to marry.

If you feel so strongly about it, why don't you lobby the government to
ban all marriage completely? It's your cause, *you* fight for it.