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"J Young" |
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26 Apr 2007 11:49:05 AM |
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PTC says TV ratings can't be trusted for program content |
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/04/ptc_says_tv_ratings_cant_be_tr.php
Inconsistency in age-appropriateness and content designators form the
basis for problems that The Parents Television Council (PTC) says have
persisted in the broadcast television industry's program ratings
system. And the Council says its recently-released study, one of seven
such studies on the ratings since they were implemented in the '90s,
found no improvement.
The current TV ratings system and its companion "V-chip" technology
have been called a "sham," based on the most recent study by Parents
Television Council of the accuracy and effectiveness of the two
measures together in protecting America's families and children at
home. The PTC analyzed 608 prime-time programs on six networks from
the November 2006 and February 2007 sweeps periods, and found the
majority of the programming lacked one or more of the needed content
descriptors warning viewers about sexual content, foul language, or
violence.
Senior program director Melissa Caldwell says the broadcast and cable
networks insist that the TV ratings and V-chip are sufficient to
protect children from inappropriate content and have launched a $550
million public service educational campaign for both. However, the
PTC's analysis suggests that the ratings and V-chip system are simply
not doing the job.
"What we've found with this study," Caldwell notes, "is that the
content descriptors, which are supposed to work in conjunction with
the V-chip to block offensive content, were missing on two-thirds of
the shows containing sex, foul language, violence or suggestive
dialogue. So parents who are relying on the V-chip to protect their
children from inappropriate content are going to be disappointed at
least two thirds of the time."
Also, the PTC spokeswoman points out, unlike the Motion Picture
Association of America, there is no television oversight body with an
independent standard for application of the ratings, leaving each
network free to vary in how it rates its own programs. She says that
means age and content descriptors for programs are not standardized
throughout television.
"There is no consistency, not only within the network, in how those
ratings are applied, but across networks -- it's all over the place,"
Caldwell says. "So content that on one network might warrant a V-
descriptor, on another network might not," she notes. "Or content that
might get a TV-14 on one network might only get a TV-PG on another."
Without that consistency, Caldwell insists, the networks' premise that
blocking technology has made decency laws outdated is false. According
to the PTC, its study proves that the "sham" TV ratings system is
"meant to keep Congress at bay" while the networks increase more
violence, profanity and sexual content on the airwaves.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: PTC says TV ratings can't be trusted for program content |
26 Apr 2007 05:08:25 PM |
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In News 1177606145.633486.28590@t38g2000prd.googlegroups.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
Change the channel, stupid.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: PTC says TV ratings can't be trusted for program content |
27 Apr 2007 12:12:50 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle
The fact that you're dishonest and a bigot discredits everything that
you post.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: PTC says TV ratings can't be trusted for program content |
26 Apr 2007 10:06:10 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
Have you lost your mind? What on earth is "indecent" about Will & Grace?
While I've only seen it a couple of times (or maybe a few excerpts),
there was noting "indecent" in it. They were all fully clothed, no
on-screen sex, and no foul language. At least not the times I saw
it.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/04/ptc_says_tv_ratings_cant_be_tr.php
Inconsistency in age-appropriateness and content designators form the
basis for problems that The Parents Television Council (PTC) says have
persisted in the broadcast television industry's program ratings
system. And the Council says its recently-released study, one of seven
such studies on the ratings since they were implemented in the '90s,
found no improvement.
The current TV ratings system and its companion "V-chip" technology
have been called a "sham," based on the most recent study by Parents
Television Council of the accuracy and effectiveness of the two
measures together in protecting America's families and children at
home. The PTC analyzed 608 prime-time programs on six networks from
the November 2006 and February 2007 sweeps periods, and found the
majority of the programming lacked one or more of the needed content
descriptors warning viewers about sexual content, foul language, or
violence.
Senior program director Melissa Caldwell says the broadcast and cable
networks insist that the TV ratings and V-chip are sufficient to
protect children from inappropriate content and have launched a $550
million public service educational campaign for both. However, the
PTC's analysis suggests that the ratings and V-chip system are simply
not doing the job.
"What we've found with this study," Caldwell notes, "is that the
content descriptors, which are supposed to work in conjunction with
the V-chip to block offensive content, were missing on two-thirds of
the shows containing sex, foul language, violence or suggestive
dialogue. So parents who are relying on the V-chip to protect their
children from inappropriate content are going to be disappointed at
least two thirds of the time."
You can't be serious. There is nothing wrong with the V chip. It's
function is to respond to the ratings imbedded in the signal, not
make any decision about what is "indecent or not". Blaming the
V chip is as silly as blaming a doorbell when someone you don't
like rings it.
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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| Title: Re: PTC says TV ratings can't be trusted for program content |
27 Apr 2007 11:37:48 AM |
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"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:87vefiikil.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
Have you lost your mind? What on earth is "indecent" about Will & Grace?
While I've only seen it a couple of times (or maybe a few excerpts),
there was noting "indecent" in it. They were all fully clothed, no
on-screen sex, and no foul language. At least not the times I saw
it.
But, but, there's a [gasp] _gay_ person in it!
[snip]
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: PTC says TV ratings can't be trusted for program content |
26 Apr 2007 10:47:30 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
I thought you were supposed to be a conservative and here you are
arguing for government regulation and censorship of national television?
Do you even know what a conservative is?
"What we've found with this study," Caldwell notes, "is that the
content descriptors, which are supposed to work in conjunction with
the V-chip to block offensive content, were missing on two-thirds of
the shows containing sex, foul language, violence or suggestive
dialogue. So parents who are relying on the V-chip to protect their
children from inappropriate content are going to be disappointed at
least two thirds of the time."
So let me guess: the only solution to this problem is government
censorship.
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| User: "Bill Allen" |
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| Title: Re: PTC says TV ratings can't be trusted for program content |
27 Apr 2007 08:42:44 AM |
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BTR1701 wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
I thought you were supposed to be a conservative and here you are
arguing for government regulation and censorship of national television?
Do you even know what a conservative is?
"J Young" is neither conservative, moderate, or liberal.
It's just a troll that will post anything to receive attention.
"What we've found with this study," Caldwell notes, "is that the
content descriptors, which are supposed to work in conjunction with
the V-chip to block offensive content, were missing on two-thirds of
the shows containing sex, foul language, violence or suggestive
dialogue. So parents who are relying on the V-chip to protect their
children from inappropriate content are going to be disappointed at
least two thirds of the time."
So let me guess: the only solution to this problem is government
censorship.
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: PTC says TV ratings can't be trusted for program content |
26 Apr 2007 11:22:36 PM |
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On Apr 26, 11:47?pm, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
I thought you were supposed to be a conservative and here you are
arguing for government regulation and censorship of national television?
Do you even know what a conservative is?
Who ever said I was conservative?
"What we've found with this study," Caldwell notes, "is that the
content descriptors, which are supposed to work in conjunction with
the V-chip to block offensive content, were missing on two-thirds of
the shows containing sex, foul language, violence or suggestive
dialogue. So parents who are relying on the V-chip to protect their
children from inappropriate content are going to be disappointed at
least two thirds of the time."
So let me guess: the only solution to this problem is government
censorship.
Not government per se`; perhaps a citizens oversight committee. This
could consist of members of the PTC and other non-partisan members of
the communities they serve. Their recommendations would carry weight
with the FCC, who would hold the ultimate power of enforcement. We owe
it to the children.
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: PTC says TV ratings can't be trusted for program content |
27 Apr 2007 05:29:28 AM |
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In article <1177647756.293046.179840@r3g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 11:47?pm, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
I thought you were supposed to be a conservative and here you are
arguing for government regulation and censorship of national television?
Do you even know what a conservative is?
Who ever said I was conservative?
Well, you sure pretend to be one. What would you call yourself? A
self-righteous moralistic religious control-freak?
"What we've found with this study," Caldwell notes, "is that the
content descriptors, which are supposed to work in conjunction with
the V-chip to block offensive content, were missing on two-thirds of
the shows containing sex, foul language, violence or suggestive
dialogue. So parents who are relying on the V-chip to protect their
children from inappropriate content are going to be disappointed at
least two thirds of the time."
So let me guess: the only solution to this problem is government
censorship.
Not government per se`; perhaps a citizens oversight committee.
So what happens if the TV industry ignores this committee? Fines? Loss
of license? Jail time? Any of that equals use of government power which
is government censorship.
This could consist of members of the PTC
No way in hell I want those nutbars deciding what I can and can't watch
on TV.
and other non-partisan members of
the communities they serve.
How about a few Satanists to balance things out? Or are you going to
engage in religious bias as well as censorship in this exciting little
plan of yours?
We owe it to the children.
Any time anyone mentions "The Cheeldrun", I reach for my wallet and my
gun because what they're really doing is trying to take either my money
or my freedom.
And, of course, anyone who is *really* concerned about "The Cheeldrun"
can always just block the channels they don't like, use their V-chip to
filter content they don't like, unplug the TV, or cancel their cable
service. Censorship is not required, unless, of course, "The Cheeldrun"
isn't their real concern. "The Cheeldrun" is only their excuse to
control what *adults* watch as well.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: PTC says TV ratings can't be trusted for program content |
27 Apr 2007 12:50:15 AM |
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On 27 avr, 06:22, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 11:47?pm, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
I thought you were supposed to be a conservative and here you are
arguing for government regulation and censorship of national television?
Do you even know what a conservative is?
Who ever said I was conservative?
You're right. You're a nazi.
"What we've found with this study," Caldwell notes, "is that the
content descriptors, which are supposed to work in conjunction with
the V-chip to block offensive content, were missing on two-thirds of
the shows containing sex, foul language, violence or suggestive
dialogue. So parents who are relying on the V-chip to protect their
children from inappropriate content are going to be disappointed at
least two thirds of the time."
So let me guess: the only solution to this problem is government
censorship.
Not government per se`; perhaps a citizens oversight committee. This
could consist of members of the PTC and other non-partisan members of
the communities they serve. Their recommendations would carry weight
with the FCC, who would hold the ultimate power of enforcement. We owe
it to the children.
Why don't you let that to the parents? Why do you want other persons
decide for you what's good or bad? Can't you decide by yourself?
Obviously not since all you do is copy and paste rubbish articles from
far-right and taliban websites adding "the pope in his infinite wisdom
said that...". You're incapable of one original thought, J Young, let
alone a decent one.
Judging from your postings, you're the last person on earth I'd wish
to see close to children. And I'd encourage my children to watch Will
and Grace which is about friendship and tolerance and open-mindedness.
Three things you've never heard of...
Besides, what do you know about children?
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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26 Apr 2007 12:31:11 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:1177606145.633486.28590@t38g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like
"Will & Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V
chip" is only further proof that some sort of oversight is needed
for the television industry.
That oversight already exists, You probably haven't heard about it,
but it's called "parent supervision". The idea behind it is that
people are responsible for their children, and that they should not
abdicate that responsibility to total strangers, AKA the television
industry.
Lisbeth.
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The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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26 Apr 2007 06:43:08 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in news:1177606145.633486.28590
@t38g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
Subject: PTC says TV ratings can't be trusted for program content
When I want their opinion I'll beat it out of them.
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Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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| User: "Bill Allen" |
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26 Apr 2007 11:57:42 AM |
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J Young wrote:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example)
LOL!
Is that show still on?
can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television industry.
So, your "opinion" is that free speech only applies when YOU (or Wild
Billy Donahue)want it to?
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| User: "IAAH" |
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26 Apr 2007 01:17:35 PM |
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J Young wrote:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
No, oversight is needed in the HOME, where it belongs.
If parents can't get their ***** together enough to know
what their kids are watching, then they should just get
rid of their televisions and admit they failed.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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26 Apr 2007 10:37:38 PM |
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On 26 Apr 2007 09:49:05 -0700 there was an Ancient J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
It's called "being a parent." My mom and dad had no problem saying
"no" to me and my siblings when they determined that something was not
for us. As we grew, they allowed us more discretion in our choices.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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26 Apr 2007 05:10:47 PM |
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On 26 Apr., 18:49, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
I know what you find indecent about Will and Grace: it's about friends
who care for each other. And since you have no friends, and no one who
cares for you, you're jealous.
Ever thought of becoming a better person?
Why are you such a pathetic fascist?
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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26 Apr 2007 05:09:17 PM |
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On 26 Apr., 18:49, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is only
further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the television
industry.
You're indecent. People like you are indecent. Nazis are indecent.
*****.
You don't like Will and Grace? Don't watch it...
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/04/ptc_says_tv_ratings_cant_be_tr.php
Ah, the usual reliable source...
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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26 Apr 2007 05:10:34 PM |
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In News 1177625357.165939.164770@t39g2000prd.googlegroups.com,, Parsifal at
jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com, typed this:
On 26 Apr., 18:49, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
The fact that shows that display an indecent lifestyle ( like "Will &
Grace", for example) can get past the technology of a "V chip" is
only further proof that some sort of oversight is needed for the
television industry.
You're indecent. People like you are indecent. Nazis are indecent.
*****.
You don't like Will and Grace? Don't watch it...
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/04/ptc_says_tv_ratings_cant_be_tr.php
Ah, the usual reliable source...
With the usual whiners.
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