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Date: 07 Nov 2004 03:09:06 PM
Object: Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time
Fiction Isn't Just Fiction Anymore
Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time.
by Carl E. Olson
It's just fiction!"
I've heard this remark quite often over the past few years, referring
to the Left Behind series and the Harry Potter novels, and now to the
latest fiction sensation, The Da Vinci Code. "Those books are just
fiction," readers remarked, "Why be concerned about them?"
When such comments are made about the Left Behind books, they don't
usually come from Rapture-believers or fundamentalist Protestants, but
from Catholics. I regularly hear from readers explaining how
entertaining the books are and how they've "opened up the Bible" for
them, helping them to understand the Book of Revelation and current
events. Many state that the Left Behind series changed their lives and
inspired them spiritually. But most of them also emphasize that the
best-selling end times novels are "just fiction."
It seems that fiction, for many people, is simply entertainment and
escapism that can have only a positive effect. So, the Left Behind
books explain Scripture, but never misinterpret it. The Harry Potter
books inspire children to read, but never to explore the occult. The
Da Vinci Code explains the true history of Christianity, but never
misrepresents it.
Yet the enormous success of the Left Behind series and of The Da Vinci
Code in particular indicates that novels promoting esoteric beliefs,
presented in a fast-paced fashion, and loaded with attacks on the
Catholic Church make for best-sellers. It also suggests that
best-selling fiction--despite being "just fiction"--is a source of
theology, philosophy, and history for a growing number of readers.
The Illinois Conference of Catholic Bishops recognized this fact and
recently issued a statement describing the Left Behind series and its
creator, fundamentalist Tim LaHaye, as anti-Catholic. LaHaye denies
the charge, saying the bishops are "reading into these books something
that's not there." However, those familiar with the novels and with
LaHaye's books on "Bible prophecy" know the San Diego-based pastor is
a throwback to the nativist anti-Catholicism of the
nineteenth-century.
In several non-fiction books, LaHaye claims Catholicism is "pagan" and
is a "Babylonian idolatrous religion," marked by corruption, murder,
and numerous false doctrines. The anti-Catholicism is more subtle in
the Left Behind books, but obvious to the alert reader. LaHaye is
adamant that "true Christianity" was nearly destroyed by the Emperor
Constantine, who allowed pagan practices and "Babylonian mysticism" to
infiltrate the Church. In his commentary Revelation Unveiled, he
admits that the Catholic Church today does hold to truths such as the
Trinity and "the personal deity of Christ, but errs in adding
Babylonian mysticism in many forms and salvation by works."
Armageddon, the latest installment in the Left Behind series, was
published in April (2003) and quickly topped the best-seller list. The
Da Vinci Code, a whodunit with a theological agenda, appeared around
the same time. The author, Dan Brown, states he is a Christian,
"although perhaps not in the most traditional sense of the word."
That's a mild understatement considering his novel is based on the
beliefs that Jesus was not divine, was married to Mary Magdalene and
had children, and that the Catholic Church has kept all of this hidden
through intimidation, deception, and even murder.
Just as many readers believe the Left Behind novels are God-given
guides to understanding the "end times," readers and critics are
fawning over The Da Vinci Code and its explanation of the real history
of Christianity and the Catholic Church. This despite Brown's stiff,
disjointed thriller being packed full of historical errors, feminist
propaganda, and neo-Gnostic sermonizing.
Ironically, characters in the novel (who clearly mouth Brown's views)
condemn Constantine for abandoning paganism and endorsing Christianity
despite never becoming a Christian himself. The absurd assertion is
made that Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea to deify Christ.
As one character, a historian, soberly explains, "until that moment in
history, Jesus was viewed by His followers as a mortal prophet. . . .
Jesus' establishment as ‘the Son of God' was officially proposed and
voted on by the Council of Nicaea."
Sadly, these distorted views of history and Catholicism--views that
really are fictional--are the closest thing to theology and catechesis
that some people will ever read. Bad fiction distorts truth by
pretending to be more than just fiction, while good fiction should
reveal truth, not misrepresent it.
http://www.carl-olson.com/articles/la_envoy73_tdvc.html
.

User: "The Apostle"

Title: Re: Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time 07 Nov 2004 03:52:12 PM
<weiler214@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Fiction Isn't Just Fiction Anymore
Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time.

by Carl E. Olson

Is it just me, or are people getting tired of this guy crying all the time.
Again he, and the Olson guy he quotes make no argument at all.
My suggestion to Whiner (ooops, I mean Weiler) is this.
You say Jesus was not married.
Show us something that says that. Quote some biblical source!
Nothing?? How about something written, say the first 300 years after Jesus
lived!! Still nothing??
Then I guess we are left with the Gospel of Philip. It clearly states that
Mary Magdalene was the companion (mate) of Jesus.
Give us just one early source that says he wasn't married!!
Then just keep on crying.
How about this statement!!
condemn Constantine for abandoning paganism and endorsing Christianity
despite never becoming a Christian himself.
What is wrong with that statement?? I know there was a fake catholic
document circulating ealry on that Sylvester, the Bishop of Rome baptised
Constantine, but that was proved to be a fake.
Turns out Constantine was baptised, but by an Arian Bishop. And what did
Arians believe. That Jesus was not divine. Thus Arius was branded a heretic,
and exiled eventually. It became known as the Arian heresy. So Constantine
was baptised by a heretic. And lets face it, heretics were pagans in the
view of the church.
So, nothing untrue in Brown's book there.
Notice that is Whiner's (Weiler) method. The same with the people he quotes.
No sources, just cry baby stuff.
And in the mean time, Catholics are publishing books, saying we encourage
sex, trying to get Italians to have more kids.
Italians know that sex is just fine, and that birth control is just fine
also. But the church frowns on birth control.
Just another joke from Rome.
.

User: "Ghod"

Title: Re: Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time 08 Nov 2004 01:03:02 PM
<weiler214@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8ac4498e.0411071309.487f18e7@posting.google.com...
: Sadly, these distorted views of history and Catholicism--views that
: really are fictional--are the closest thing to theology and
catechesis
: that some people will ever read. Bad fiction distorts truth by
: pretending to be more than just fiction, while good fiction should
: reveal truth, not misrepresent it.
Right. Sure. As if Catholicism isn't all about distortion...of bad
fiction. Religion is truly pathetic. Must be why I chose to be Rev.
Ghod?
.

User: "Jeff Thomas"

Title: Re: Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time 07 Nov 2004 06:09:02 PM
<weiler214@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8ac4498e.0411071309.487f18e7@posting.google.com...

Fiction Isn't Just Fiction Anymore
Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time.

by Carl E. Olson



It's just fiction!"

I've heard this remark quite often over the past few years, referring
to the Left Behind series and the Harry Potter novels, and now to the
latest fiction sensation, The Da Vinci Code. "Those books are just
fiction," readers remarked, "Why be concerned about them?"

When such comments are made about the Left Behind books, they don't
usually come from Rapture-believers or fundamentalist Protestants, but
from Catholics. I regularly hear from readers explaining how
entertaining the books are and how they've "opened up the Bible" for
them, helping them to understand the Book of Revelation and current
events. Many state that the Left Behind series changed their lives and
inspired them spiritually. But most of them also emphasize that the
best-selling end times novels are "just fiction."

It seems that fiction, for many people, is simply entertainment and
escapism that can have only a positive effect. So, the Left Behind
books explain Scripture, but never misinterpret it. The Harry Potter
books inspire children to read, but never to explore the occult. The
Da Vinci Code explains the true history of Christianity, but never
misrepresents it.

Yet the enormous success of the Left Behind series and of The Da Vinci
Code in particular indicates that novels promoting esoteric beliefs,
presented in a fast-paced fashion, and loaded with attacks on the
Catholic Church make for best-sellers. It also suggests that
best-selling fiction--despite being "just fiction"--is a source of
theology, philosophy, and history for a growing number of readers.

The Illinois Conference of Catholic Bishops recognized this fact and
recently issued a statement describing the Left Behind series and its
creator, fundamentalist Tim LaHaye, as anti-Catholic. LaHaye denies
the charge, saying the bishops are "reading into these books something
that's not there." However, those familiar with the novels and with
LaHaye's books on "Bible prophecy" know the San Diego-based pastor is
a throwback to the nativist anti-Catholicism of the
nineteenth-century.

In several non-fiction books, LaHaye claims Catholicism is "pagan" and
is a "Babylonian idolatrous religion," marked by corruption, murder,
and numerous false doctrines. The anti-Catholicism is more subtle in
the Left Behind books, but obvious to the alert reader. LaHaye is
adamant that "true Christianity" was nearly destroyed by the Emperor
Constantine, who allowed pagan practices and "Babylonian mysticism" to
infiltrate the Church. In his commentary Revelation Unveiled, he
admits that the Catholic Church today does hold to truths such as the
Trinity and "the personal deity of Christ, but errs in adding
Babylonian mysticism in many forms and salvation by works."

Armageddon, the latest installment in the Left Behind series, was
published in April (2003) and quickly topped the best-seller list. The
Da Vinci Code, a whodunit with a theological agenda, appeared around
the same time. The author, Dan Brown, states he is a Christian,
"although perhaps not in the most traditional sense of the word."
That's a mild understatement considering his novel is based on the
beliefs that Jesus was not divine, was married to Mary Magdalene and
had children, and that the Catholic Church has kept all of this hidden
through intimidation, deception, and even murder.

Just as many readers believe the Left Behind novels are God-given
guides to understanding the "end times," readers and critics are
fawning over The Da Vinci Code and its explanation of the real history
of Christianity and the Catholic Church. This despite Brown's stiff,
disjointed thriller being packed full of historical errors, feminist
propaganda, and neo-Gnostic sermonizing.

Ironically, characters in the novel (who clearly mouth Brown's views)
condemn Constantine for abandoning paganism and endorsing Christianity
despite never becoming a Christian himself. The absurd assertion is
made that Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea to deify Christ.
As one character, a historian, soberly explains, "until that moment in
history, Jesus was viewed by His followers as a mortal prophet. . . .
Jesus' establishment as 'the Son of God' was officially proposed and
voted on by the Council of Nicaea."

Sadly, these distorted views of history and Catholicism--views that
really are fictional--are the closest thing to theology and catechesis
that some people will ever read. Bad fiction distorts truth by
pretending to be more than just fiction, while good fiction should
reveal truth, not misrepresent it.



http://www.carl-olson.com/articles/la_envoy73_tdvc.html

You should read the nonfictional books.
"The Jesus Puzzle" Doherty
or "The Jesus Mysteries"
You will see where the fiction writers are coming from. Good scholarship.
Jeff
.

User: "Dale"

Title: Re: Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time 07 Nov 2004 06:47:09 PM
<weiler214@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8ac4498e.0411071309.487f18e7@posting.google.com...

Fiction Isn't Just Fiction Anymore
Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time.

by Carl E. Olson

[...]

The author, Dan Brown, states he is a Christian,
"although perhaps not in the most traditional sense of the word."
That's a mild understatement considering his novel is based on the
beliefs that Jesus was not divine, was married to Mary Magdalene and
had children, and that the Catholic Church has kept all of this hidden
through intimidation, deception, and even murder.

Oh dear, a fiction about a real organization conspiring to withhold
ficitonal information about a fictional historical character? Someone must
have left the inmates in control of the asylum.
.
User: "Crowfoot"

Title: Re: Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time 13 Nov 2004 01:04:11 AM
In article <hmzjd.11306$fC4.282@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, "Dale"
<dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote:

<weiler214@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8ac4498e.0411071309.487f18e7@posting.google.com...

Fiction Isn't Just Fiction Anymore
Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time.

by Carl E. Olson

[...]

The author, Dan Brown, states he is a Christian,
"although perhaps not in the most traditional sense of the word."
That's a mild understatement considering his novel is based on the
beliefs that Jesus was not divine, was married to Mary Magdalene and
had children, and that the Catholic Church has kept all of this hidden
through intimidation, deception, and even murder.


Oh dear, a fiction about a real organization conspiring to withhold
ficitonal information about a fictional historical character? Someone must
have left the inmates in control of the asylum.

More like First Grade running the entire school system, up to and
including Grad school.
--
Crow
.

User: "John Ings"

Title: Re: Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time 07 Nov 2004 07:07:23 PM
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 00:47:09 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:

Oh dear, a fiction about a real organization conspiring to withhold
ficitonal information about a fictional historical character? Someone must
have left the inmates in control of the asylum.

## The whole religious complexion of the modern world
## is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum
Havlock Ellis
.


User: "Woden wodencharternet"

Title: Re: Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time 07 Nov 2004 03:36:59 PM
wrote in news:8ac4498e.0411071309.487f18e7
@posting.google.com:

Fiction Isn't Just Fiction Anymore
Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time.

(snip)
Perhaps you would do better if you realized the bible was just as
ficticious as the "Left Behind" or "Harry Potter" stories.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.

User: "Amanda"

Title: Re: Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time 14 Nov 2004 08:38:21 AM


The Illinois Conference of Catholic Bishops recognized this fact and
recently issued a statement describing the Left Behind series and its
creator, fundamentalist Tim LaHaye, as anti-Catholic. LaHaye denies
the charge, saying the bishops are "reading into these books something
that's not there." However, those familiar with the novels and with
LaHaye's books on "Bible prophecy" know the San Diego-based pastor is
a throwback to the nativist anti-Catholicism of the
nineteenth-century.

I can't believe it. I'm agreeing with the Catholic church about something.
By the way, the Left Behind series is also anti-Jewish, anti-Russian,
anti-Global-Community, and anti-pretty much everything that isn't
American born again Christian.
.

User: "Amanda"

Title: Re: Pulp thrillers are becoming the new Bibles of our time 14 Nov 2004 08:38:44 AM


The Illinois Conference of Catholic Bishops recognized this fact and
recently issued a statement describing the Left Behind series and its
creator, fundamentalist Tim LaHaye, as anti-Catholic. LaHaye denies
the charge, saying the bishops are "reading into these books something
that's not there." However, those familiar with the novels and with
LaHaye's books on "Bible prophecy" know the San Diego-based pastor is
a throwback to the nativist anti-Catholicism of the
nineteenth-century.

I can't believe it. I'm agreeing with the Catholic church about something.
By the way, the Left Behind series is also anti-Jewish, anti-Russian,
anti-Global-Community, and anti-pretty much everything that isn't
American born again Christian.
.


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