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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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13 Aug 2004 01:00:43 AM |
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Put-Down Line of the Day (Alan Keyes Gets Beat Up Again) |
Alan Keyes, angry that Jim Ryan was scheduled to have 6 edbates with
Obama but he only gets 3, demands equal treatment.
Obama replied that the six debate offer was "a special for in-state
residents."
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_08_08.php#003267
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AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
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Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -934 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| Title: George Bush tells John Kerry to put up or shut up! |
13 Aug 2004 02:40:00 AM |
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George Bush tells John Kerry to put up or shut up!
By VINCENT MORRIS
NY POST
March 16, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - The White House yesterday all but
called John Kerry a liar, daring the Massachusetts Democrat to name
the foreign leaders he claims want President Bush defeated.
With Kerry again refusing to back up his claims, Team Bush turned up
the heat to raise further doubts about Kerry's credibility.
"Either he is straightforward and states who they are, or the only
conclusion one can draw is that he is making it up to attack the
president," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.
McClellan, who three times repeated the charge that Kerry was "making
it up," spoke on day after Secretary of State Colin Powell called on
Kerry to identify his foreign friends.
Vice President ***** Cheney, speaking at a fund-raiser in Arizona,
noted that at a campaign event Sunday in which a heckler challenged
Kerry to produce names, the Democrat declined, saying, "that's none of
your business."
"It is our business when a candidate for president claims the
political endorsement of foreign leaders," Cheney said.
"We have a right to know what he is saying to them that makes them so
supportive of his candidacy," he added.
Kerry dismissed McClellan's challenge, arguing that the administration
was trying to change the subject from jobs, health care and other
issues.
"They don't have a campaign so they're trying to divert it," he told
reporters.
Over the weekend, Kerry continued stonewalling and insisted he's not
going to name any names.
"I'm not going to betray the confidences of those conversations, but I
have had conversations with leaders. I've also had friends of mine
who've met with leaders," said Kerry on Sunday.
Kerry added that business leaders also are concerned that Bush is
costing America money with his approach foreign policy.
"There are business people who will tell you that because of the way
the U.S. is viewed around the world, in certain parts of the world,
we're losing business, we're losing contracts. People don't want to do
business with us," Kerry claimed, refusing to offer any specifics.
The dispute started March 8, when Kerry said publicly that he talked
to foreign leaders who were pulling for him to defeat Bush in November
so he could create a new foreign policy.
Anger with Bush over U.S. policy in Iraq is well documented, with
France, Germany and Russia among those nations refusing to back the
war.
In a conference call yesterday organized by Bush's re-election team,
Sen. Norm Coleman (R-Minn.) demanded that Kerry cough up the names and
told reporters that North Korea's government-controlled media
broadcast Kerry's speeches. Coleman, a member of the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee, said it was "reckless" of Kerry to hint at
opposition to Bush.
He said he's also "skeptical" that such comments were ever made,
adding, "You put up or you shut up. You don't make reckless charges."
Separately, Bush yesterday e-mailed supporters with a note asking for
money and slamming Kerry for being a flip-flopper.
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| Title: Re: George Bush tells John Kerry to put up or shut up! |
13 Aug 2004 08:49:26 AM |
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"Dave Middleton" <dmiddleton@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote
March 16, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - The White House
yesterday all but called John Kerry a liar, daring the
Massachusetts Democrat to name the foreign leaders
he claims want President Bush defeated.
Ironically, Kerry never made the claim.
The one person who said they heard him -- a reporter --
admitted the error when confronted later. As you can
see, that never so much as slowed down the Republicans.
Look at the date.
Five months later, the reporter admits he made an error and
he misquoted Kerry, yet the Republicans are *Still* harping
on this... SHEESH!
Ask yourself: What are they hiding from? Why would they
rather flail away at shadows than confront the real issues?
One look at the latest job figures should answer that question
for you...
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| User: "Pete Lewis" |
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| Title: War News for August 4, 2004. The Clinton-created quagmire continues. |
13 Aug 2004 10:17:09 AM |
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War News for August 4, 2004. The Clinton-created quagmire continues.
The quagmire nobody talks about
July 29th, 2004
December of this year will mark the nine-year anniversary of US and
NATO intervention in the Balkan War of 1992-95. For almost a decade,
our troops have been conducting stability and support operations in
Bosnia-Herzegovina, and, later, provided secure bases for the air war
against Serbia in 1999. Then-President Bill Clinton promised that the
troops would be home by Christmas of 1996, but as the years passed, US
military units that deployed to the Balkans became the "forgotten"
soldiers of a self-absorbed, pre-911 Clinton Administration.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=3711
Good day. Or as John Kerry would say, bonjour.
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| Title: Re: Put-Down Line of the Day (Alan Keyes Gets Beat Up Again) |
13 Aug 2004 01:11:38 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:00:43 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Alan Keyes, angry that Jim Ryan was scheduled to have 6 edbates with
Obama but he only gets 3, demands equal treatment.
Obama replied that the six debate offer was "a special for in-state
residents."
LOL!!
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Vote Bush/Voldemort 2004!
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| Title: Bush Haters Grabbing Straws as Usual |
13 Aug 2004 02:40:30 AM |
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Bush Haters Grabbing Straws as Usual
We interrupt the collective orgasm of the "Bush lied" crowd to remind
them to listen to what former Iraqi weapons inspector David Kay is
actually saying, rather than what they want to hear.
The headlines were swift in their condemnation of the Iraq invasion
after Kay testified in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee
yesterday. "No WMDs In Iraq" and "no stockpiles found" dominated the
news of the day. This was going to be the coming out party for the
Bush -haters and their buddies
on the left. Not so fast.
Kay testified he believed there were weapons of mass destruction in
Iraq prior to the war, as did the German intelligence service and even
French President Jacques Chirac. Now keep in mind, Saddam had weapons
of mass destruction, used them and concealed them. He was also in
clear violation of 12 years of UN resolutions. There is no disputing
that. All Kay is talking about is the intelligence not leading them to
any WMD since the war ended.
Kay even states in his testimony that the Iraqi security service used
the looting after the regime fell to cover their WMD program's tracks
and destroy evidence. He does not believe anyone in the Bush
administration
deceived the American people, and agrees that removing Saddam Hussein
was a good idea that has made the world a safer place. All he is
saying is the intelligence wasn't very good, and needs to be improved.
It's going to be the Democrats like John Kerry that are going to have
to answer for cutting the CIA's budget in the past.
The bottom line: nothing new here, folks. The liberals really had such
high hopes for pinning this on Bush in November. Guess they'll have
revert to the old standbys of class warfare and the deficit.
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Left-wing liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being. They
are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,
selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Haters Grabbing Straws as Usual |
13 Aug 2004 08:38:17 AM |
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"Dave Middleton" <dmiddleton@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote
We interrupt the collective orgasm of the "Bush lied"
crowd to remind them to listen to what former Iraqi
weapons inspector David Kay is actually saying,
rather than what they want to hear.
Simple solution here: Show us the WMDs, *****!
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| User: "Pete Lewis" |
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13 Aug 2004 10:14:50 AM |
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Hanoi John Kerry The War Criminal
The libs don't have a lot to say now that the truth is coming out
about Kerry the war criminal. Unfit for command. After he dumps the
election, his wife will probably divorce the lying sack of *****.
Theresa
has been forced to compromise he principles too far already.
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Liberals Hate America!
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| User: "jps" |
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13 Aug 2004 04:07:37 PM |
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In article <dmmph05uupfji8ou2hdm90btbs2hd8ofsr@4ax.com>, pdlewis375
@N0THING.N0SPAM.0RG says...
Hanoi John Kerry The War Criminal
The libs don't have a lot to say now that the truth is coming out
about Kerry the war criminal. Unfit for command. After he dumps the
election, his wife will probably divorce the lying sack of *****.
Theresa
has been forced to compromise he principles too far already.
Chris Matthews ripped John O'Neill's flesh off last night for being a
pitiful partisan manipulated by Bush money and Merrie Spaeth.
The same ***** who assassinated McCain in 2000.
Go get a fuckin' education.
jps
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| User: "Yang Phd n.a." |
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| Title: On Loathing Bush - It’s not about what he does. Liberals Hate America! |
14 Aug 2004 09:33:08 AM |
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On Loathing Bush - It’s not about what he does
August 13, 2004, 8:13 a.m.
On Loathing Bush
It’s not about what he does.
For now Americans seem to be split 50-50 over the reelection of George
W. Bush. Such a hotly contested election is hardly new. We saw races
just as close in 1960, 1968, and 1976. Had Ross Perot not run in 1992
- and perhaps even in 1996 - Bill Clinton (who didn't receive a 50
percent majority in either of his presidential races) may well have
found himself in the same predicament as Gore did in Florida, 2000 -
struggling to win the Electoral College while losing the popular vote
to George Bush Sr.
There are a number of issues in this contest on which reasonable
people can differ. If one is out of work or without comprehensive
health insurance, then the economy is rocky, to be measured not by
historically low unemployment figures but by the number of actual jobs
lost or gained. For others more fortunate, by any fair measure of
housing, transportation, or consumer goods, the United States has
achieved a standard of living well beyond even that of Europe.
One can argue that the post-bellum reconstruction of Iraq was
unforeseeably messy and fouled-up. Or, one can argue that it's
striking that after a mere three years the United States has liberated
50 million and implemented democratic reform in place of what were the
two most fascistic governments in the world - all without another 9/11
mass murder.
Furthermore, our troubles with Europe can be seen as either provoking
tried and tested friends or lancing a boil that was growing for years
as a result of our different histories, the end of the Cold War, and
the utopianism of the EU. We could all disagree further about
education, illegal immigration, energy policy, taxation, and a host of
other issues.
But what is not explicable in terms of rational disagreement is the
Left's pathological hatred of George W. Bush. It transcends all
contention over the issues, the Democratic hurt over the Florida
elections, and even the animus once shown Bill Clinton by the activist
Right. From where does this near-religious anger arise and what does
it portend?
Let's start with the admission that much of the invective is
irrational, fueled by emotion rather than reason. Thus the black
leadership uses slurs such as "Taliban" and "Confederacy" against
Bush, even though no other president has selected an African-American
secretary of State and national-security adviser or pledged so many
billions for AIDS relief in Africa. Liberals talk of social programs
starved, but domestic spending under Bush increased at annual rates
greater than during any Democratic administration in recent history.
Just read howls of conservatives who worry about Bush's Great
Society-like programs.
On foreign policy, Kerry rips Bush apart - but can't say whether he
would have gone into Afghanistan and Iraq and is unable to specify how
he would have gotten pacifistic Europeans on board. It is common to
caricature Ashcroft as some Seven Days in May insurrectionist, bent on
overthrowing the Constitution; but given the almost daily arrests of
terror suspects in the United States, Kerry cannot tell us how exactly
the Patriot Act has eroded our freedoms, much less why it is
unnecessary in hunting down potential mass murderers.
What is it about Bush that elicits such hatred, that galvanizes even
usually mindless rock stars, self-indulgent Hollywood actors,
lethargic ex-presidents and vice presidents, and hypocritical
Democratic senators to embrace such canonical fury? Why was the Left
content to make fun of Ford's clumsiness, Reagan's forgetfulness, and
George Sr.'s preppiness, but now calls George W. a Nazi and worse
still? Why are there forthcoming novels and plays that discuss the
assassination of George W. Bush? Why did we not get a Reaganwacked, a
Reaganworld, a Lies of Ronald Reagan - a similar vast industry of
paperback pulp equating Reagan with evil incarnate?
THE SOUTHERN ALBATROSS
Bush is a southerner, with a drawl - but not one who is either liberal
or Democratic. We forget just how rare that is.
In fact, we have not seen a twanged president or vice president who
was conservative in over a half-century. The previous rule? A Lyndon
Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Lloyd Bentsen, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, or John
Edwards could serve or run for executive national office only on a
simple triangulating premise - they offered moderate and regional
balance to Yankee liberalism and yet did not in the slightest scare
the rest of the country with images of a redneck South.
Any unrepentant conservatives from the south - former Democrats like a
John Connolly or a Phil Graham - who sought the presidency quickly
faded. Mr. Bush is unusual - an adopted Texan who reflects the
attitudes and beliefs of most Southerners, and who counts on real
political affinity rather than mere regional loyalty for support south
of the Mason-Dixon Line. Nixon-Lodge, Goldwater-Miller, Nixon-Agnew,
Ford-Dole, Reagan-Bush, Bush-Quayle, Dole-Kemp, Bush-Cheney - not a
Southern conservative Republican to be found on any ticket, a trend
that surely keeps Karl Rove's wheels spinning each night.
For the Left, Mr. Bush is automatically under a cloud of suspicion; he
is an unapologetic twanger who likes guns, barbeques, NASCAR, "the
ranch," and pick-up trucks. It matters little that George Bush's
record on classical civil-rights issues is impeccable, without a hint
of the deplorable racism of a younger Senator Byrd, a Lyndon Johnson,
or an Al Gore Sr. Every statement Bush drawls out about religion,
affirmative action, or abortion is forever suspect - sort of what
would happen should a Germanic-sounding Arnold Schwarzenegger quite
rightly lecture Californians about the need for greater order,
efficiency, cohesiveness, and the willpower to regain pride and
purpose. Necessary, yes - but for some, given his accent, Wagnerian
and spooky all the same.
BIBLE THUMPING
Similarly, Bush's Christianity seems evangelical and literal. It comes
across as disturbing to liberals of the country who see religion as a
mere social formality at best, useful for weddings and funerals,
perhaps comforting at Christmas and Easter of course, but otherwise a
potential threat to the full expression of lifestyle "choices."
American politicos like their candidates to be Episcopalian,
Unitarian, or Congregationalist, perhaps even mainstream but quiet
Methodists or Presbyterians. Baptists of the southern flavor, or
anything not found in a New England township, reflect a real belief in
the literalness of the Bible - primordial ideas that religion is not a
social necessity but a fire-and-brimstone path to eternal salvation.
Jimmy Carter came closest to the edge with his talk of being born
again. Yet his liberalism, his close friendship with Walter Mondale,
and his talk of American pathology convinced the Left that he was just
a southern version of a Daniel Berrigan or William Sloan Coffin - a
little weird, perhaps, but useful all the same in drawing the powers
of Christianity into the liberal crusade. In contrast, if Bush evokes
the name of God one one-thousandth as often as did Abraham Lincoln or
Reverend Jackson, he is dismissed as an unhinged zealot eager to
incite a Hundred Years' War with the Muslims.
MR. MANICHEAN
Critics accuse Mr. Bush of Manichaeism - of tough, black-and-white
talk about good and evil. They are right. He certainly sounds
different from the usual suburban moralist, especially in an age of
irony, skepticism, and cynicism. Our era is dominated by pundits,
professors, and journalists to whom hip nuance is everything. The Time
magazine style of reporting starts off with Theme A, then reverses
course half-way through with counterargument B, only to conclude with
Theme A lite.
I like David Letterman and Jon Stewart, but like most Americans I can
never really tell when or whether they are ever sincere. Not long ago
a Frenchman explained to me why he hates Bush, who "thinks linearly"
and has no sense of the "problematique." Face it: We are now an
information society, with a premium on talk, not action. To suggest
that one need not be 100 percent certain - but perhaps only 60 percent
certain - to act is deeply disturbing. And when you add lingo like
"bring 'em on," the caricature that Bush belongs on the main street of
Gunsmoke rather than in Sex in the City or The West Wing is only
strengthened.
Go back to the early 1960s and listen to the accents on shows like
Have Gun Will Travel and GE Playhouse and contrast those characters'
speech with today's television diction: The former are square,
one-dimensional, blunt - almost flat and Midwestern in tone - the
latter speak nasally, their speech drawn out and full of ironic,
sarcastic under-the-breath asides, often striving to reflect
sophisticated uncertainty, if not camp.
We not only have an evangelical Christian as president in the age or
irony, but one who really makes it sound like we have the ability to
make choices that are more right than wrong and then act on them. In a
world in which our elites can give 1,000 reasons for inaction and not
one for resolution, Mr. Bush seems precipitous, unnuanced,
one-dimensional, and oh-so-retro.
RENEGADE ARISTOCRAT
George Bush is a traitor of the most frightening sort to his class: He
is not an ideological tribune like Roosevelt or Kennedy, but someone
far worse, who seems to dislike the entire baggage of sophisticated,
highbrow society. An Eastern blueblood who initially did all the right
things - Prep School, the Ivy league, Skull and Bones - he then,
accent and all, not only went back to rural Texas, but embraced a
popular culture antithetical to the preppie, wonkish, aristocratic
world of the East Coast elite.
So Bush suffers additional invective not accorded his father, whose
cadre of Wall Street stockbrokers, Council on Foreign Relations
pin-stripers, and State Department sober and judicious insiders could
assure the liberal establishment that, well, here was a man like us
who believed in noblesse oblige, sent his kids to our schools, and
simply had a smidgen less compassion for the down-trodden.
But W.? His wife is pure Texas: a closet smoker from a family that
does not have lots of money or status - not a Kennedy or Kerry spouse
replete with loot, connections, and European sophistication. Unlike
Teresa, Hillary, or Tipper, Laura has no angst about her own career;
she doesn't give sermons about super-moaning as wife, mother, and
activist exec. Worse still, Laura Bush is happy, proud, and likes who
and what she is.
We don't hear that the Bush twins are like the Kerry offspring at
Harvard Med, or slashing through Stanford Chelsea-style, or even like
the Gore girls, lecturing the faithful on their father's liberalism.
Somehow the purportedly non-New York Times reading, non-NPR-listening,
non-Guggenheim-visiting George W. Bush veered off onto the wrong path,
and his recalcitrance seems to drive his aristocratic rivals nuts. His
antipathy, after all, is one of choice, not fueled by an outsider's
envy or prior poverty.
"Pushy" neocons - not Shimon Peres groupies - advise him on Israel.
Bush talks to confident black entrepreneurs, not the elite CEOs of the
race industry. He is at home more with ministers in polyester than
with elbow-patched, turtle-necked scholars of religion. So it is not
just what Bush does, but how he does it that matters so much to the
exasperated, out-of-the-loop op-ed boards, Malibu filmmakers, elite
newsrooms, faculty lounges, and foundation panels.
In short, the Left hates George W. Bush for who he is rather than what
he does. Southern conservatism, evangelical Christianity, a
black-and-white worldview, and a wealthy man's disdain for elite
culture - none by itself earns hatred, of course, but each is a force
multiplier of the other and so helps explain the evolution of
disagreement into pathological venom.
September 11 cooled the furor of these aristocratic critics, but Iraq
re-ignited it. Not voting for George Bush is, of course understandable
and millions in fact will do precisely that. But for those haters who
demonize the man, their knee-jerk disgust tells us far more about
their own shallow characters than it does anything about our wartime
president.
And there is a great danger in all these manifestations of pure
hatred. We are in a war. And in these tumultuous days, the Left's
unhinged odium will resonate with and embolden not only our enemies
abroad, but also the deranged, dangerous folk here at home.
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Liberals Hate America!
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14 Aug 2004 09:32:44 AM |
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Everybody loves Bush, just wait until the big Pug convention in NYC, you'll see.
Even the hookers and dope dealers become Republicans for a few days becaise
everyone knows that it pays to be a Republican.
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13 Aug 2004 07:29:50 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:38:17 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Dave Middleton" <dmiddleton@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote
We interrupt the collective orgasm of the "Bush lied"
crowd to remind them to listen to what former Iraqi
weapons inspector David Kay is actually saying,
rather than what they want to hear.
Simple solution here: Show us the WMDs, *****!
Shhhhh. You'll spoil their little fantasy that they actually *have* a
case for war.
Paul.
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.. JMS: "SFX is a fairly useless publication on just about every imaginable front.
Never have so many jumped-up fanboys done so little, with so much, for so long."
.. EMail: Unless invited to, don't. Your message is likely to be automatically deleted.
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| User: "Paul Harper" |
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13 Aug 2004 03:09:27 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 03:40:30 -0400, Dave Middleton
<dmiddleton@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote:
Kay testified he believed there were weapons of mass destruction in
Iraq prior to the war, as did the German intelligence service and even
French President Jacques Chirac.
Yes dear. We *all* know this. The key, and fairly crucial point that
you are deliberately avoiding mentioning is that there has also been
known to be no effective WMDs in Iraq for some years.
So while it is true to say that there *were* WMDs in Iraq (and since
the US sold a lot of them to Iraq, clearly there can be no denying it)
it is also true to say that at the time the US Invasion took place,
there were none. This is why none have been found - they don't exist
and haven't for some years.
Invading Iraq in 2003 because of weapons of mass destruction the US
sold to Saddam in the 1980's is tenuous logic at best, and blatant
excuse-making.
Now keep in mind, Saddam had weapons
of mass destruction, used them and concealed them. He was also in
clear violation of 12 years of UN resolutions. There is no disputing
that. All Kay is talking about is the intelligence not leading them to
any WMD since the war ended.
.... an inevitable result of them not existing.
Paul.
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.. JMS: "SFX is a fairly useless publication on just about every imaginable front.
Never have so many jumped-up fanboys done so little, with so much, for so long."
.. EMail: Unless invited to, don't. Your message is likely to be automatically deleted.
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13 Aug 2004 04:02:48 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 06:11:38 GMT, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:00:43 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Alan Keyes, angry that Jim Ryan was scheduled to have 6 edbates with
Obama but he only gets 3, demands equal treatment.
Obama replied that the six debate offer was "a special for in-state
residents."
LOL!!
This is going to be like watching a train wreck.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -934 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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13 Aug 2004 09:23:55 AM |
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Remember when Bill Clinton let the BATF kill all those people in Waco
Texas??
Remember when you were a little child, and you thought everyone in
America believed in freedom and being free?
Since you've grown up, you now realize that not all Americans believe
in liberty for all. Some, mostly in the democRATic Party, believe in a
sort of limited concept of liberty. You can may remain free as long as
you agree with them. Take for instance the Bill Clinton era situation
that took place in Waco, and the church that was burned down, and
where 85 Americans lost their lives. Those Americans were just living
at that church way out in the middle of no where close to Waco Texas.
The democRAT-controlled congress of the day was thinking about dumping
the BATF and making those agents into members of the FBI.
The BATF wanted no part of this. As with most federal agencies, there
is no love between them. The BATF had to think up something quick to
justify their existence. It was known by the BATF that David Koresh
had a compound with a church and many families living apart from
mainstream society near Waco. As with Ruby Ridge, the federal
government seems to hate Americans that want to live away from big
cities quietly doing their own thing. It seems that living like this
attracts government attention. Of course, government wants to rule
over you, not just uphold your rights and ensure your security as it
was designed to do. Oh no, government wants to be your god, and how
dare you think of doing for yourself out their on a large plot of land
in the middle of Texas??? Government employees need you to need them
so that they can keep their jobs!
So, the BATF decided to go check out David Koresh with the idea that
since he was ordering gun parts in the mail, he might be ordering
illegal gun parts, but no one knew for certain. So the cowboys of the
BATF road into town with guns drawn and ready to fire. It was at this
point that the local sheriff told the BATF that he knew Koresh and
that he was an ok kind of guy, and that he came to town all the time
to buy stuff, thus he was no threat to anyone. This information had no
effect on the plans of the BATF. The agency needed to look good on the
evening news so that congress wouldn't kill off the federal law
enforcement
agency.
Agents surrounded the compound and told Koresh to come out. He wanted
to talk to the leader of the pack before coming out, but one thing led
to another and a stand off ensued. For over a month, agents turned off
the water, electricity, and allowed little or no food to enter the
compound. By this time, the nation was focused on Waco, and FBI agents
took over the situation. They played loud noises to try to make the
families leave the church, but they were scared to death.
The home and church was just a wood structure. As US army tanks rolled
into Waco, and Cobra helicopters flew overhead, the patience of the
FBI had run out. A plan was set into motion. Gas the building with CS
gas used in WWII and banned since. CS gas is highly flammable. The
tanks moved forward and shoved their turrets into the simple building,
the home of many women and children. As the tanks began to inject gas
into the building, fire was added. Was it done on purpose to keep the
public from seeing the bullet holes in the front door and all over the
building where agents had fired at the occupants? Was the fire just an
accident? Both the Murrah building and the Koresh church were
eventually scraped off the ground and carted away by the government.
Why? Why was the actual earth around these buildings and under them
as well, removed?
Why was there a huge hole in the roof of the concrete cellar which was
used for kitchen storage at the Koresh church? Many people gathered
into the cellar on the day that the church was set ablaze. People have
since stated that the feds placed a large explosive on the roof of the
concrete room with the idea of sending millions of concrete fragments
into the room at bullet speed to kill the occupants. There were many
found dead in that room. Mothers, fathers and children were all
killed. The hole in the roof is on film. You can see that the blast on
the roof was set dead center on the top side where a much smaller
hole was seen. When in the room looking upward, you could see the hole
was much larger. The hole was similar to the kind of effect caused by
a BB hitting glass. It was conical in shape with the large side facing
downward.
When the dust and flamed cleared, 85 Americans lay dead throughout the
compound. Many lies were told to justify the actions of the Clinton
administration. But, government had to remain in control and appear
faultless. Koresh was said to be a child molester. He was supposed to
have a speed lab in the building making huge amounts of meth to sell.
He was supposed to have had illegal weapons, and performed illegal
mods to weapons he owned. The lies kept coming. Government lost its
cool, and 85 people were dead. Someone had to take the blame, but
just like Ruby Ridge where the federal marshall was promoted after
killing a woman holding her child, no one in either the FBI, or BATF
suffered as a result of the outcome of this tragic situation. Liberal
style government protects its own.
So, when you're thinking back on your childhood and you remember how
wonderful things seemed then because you didn't know how bad things
can really get, just for a moment, remember the people who died at
Waco and Ruby Ridge who were victims of an out of control liberal
democRAT controlled government, right here IN AMERICA. Remember that
not everyone in our fair land supports the concept of liberty for all.
Remember that, as our founders told us, government must be very
limited and under the complete control of We the People, or massive
abuses of power will occur, and lives and liberty
will be lost.
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13 Aug 2004 03:59:38 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:00:43 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Alan Keyes, angry that Jim Ryan was scheduled to have 6 edbates with
Obama but he only gets 3, demands equal treatment.
Obama replied that the six debate offer was "a special for in-state
residents."
Obama is afraid to lose all six.
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13 Aug 2004 09:20:50 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:59:38 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:00:43 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Alan Keyes, angry that Jim Ryan was scheduled to have 6 edbates with
Obama but he only gets 3, demands equal treatment.
Obama replied that the six debate offer was "a special for in-state
residents."
Obama is afraid to lose all six.
Ah, another NeoCon loser who talks the talk but can't walk the walk.
I'll put $100 on the line. If Keyes breaks 40%, you get $100. If he
does not, I get $100 from you.
Let me guess, you're too much of a chicken to put your money where
your mouth is.
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yang++alt.atheism+duke+hell+no&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5vki609f0ieglkd26debhtqmqjab4cqkrr%404ax.com&rnum=1
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -935 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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18 Aug 2004 12:52:57 PM |
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"Yang, ADhD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message news:<gktqh0d5s67o9iiq6j8f1u0b6b1c8pfufv@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:59:38 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:00:43 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Alan Keyes, angry that Jim Ryan was scheduled to have 6 edbates with
Obama but he only gets 3, demands equal treatment.
Obama replied that the six debate offer was "a special for in-state
residents."
Obama is afraid to lose all six.
Ah, another NeoCon loser who talks the talk but can't walk the walk.
I'll put $100 on the line. If Keyes breaks 40%, you get $100. If he
does not, I get $100 from you.
The claim was that Keyes was going to win the debates, not the
election. Do you know a fair way of determining who wins a debate?
Let me guess, you're too much of a chicken to put your money where
your mouth is.
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yang++alt.atheism+duke+hell+no&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5vki609f0ieglkd26debhtqmqjab4cqkrr%404ax.com&rnum=1
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -935 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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13 Aug 2004 10:23:35 PM |
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Kerry has fundamental problems-Party's support for gay rights a
turnoff for black religionists. Liberals Hate America!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/story/216331p-186214c.html
On Sunday, I was sitting in a rear pew of the Allen Memorial Church of
Mount Vernon, ears still tingling from two hours of inspired gospel
music, when I heard the Rev. Carlton Spruill compare the Democratic
Party to Sodom and Gomorrah. "George Bush is a meanspirited man,"
Spruill declared. "He's gone back
on his promises about faith-based charity. Everybody knows he's lying
about Iraq. But the Democratic Party supports same-sex marriage.
Homosexuality is a perversion that will destroy America, just as it
destroyed Rome and Sodom and Gomorrah. If the Democrats are right
about same-sex marriage, then God has to apologize to Sodom. And God's
not about to apologize."
The congregation responded with applause and amens.
"I know that voting is a precious right," Spruill told them. "But this
time I don't see how I can vote. Sometimes you've just got to sit out
an election."
Allen Memorial is not just any church. It is a 75-year-old pillar of
the community, the largest and most influential black Pentecostal
congregation in Westchester. And Spruill is not just any minister. He
was introduced to his flock on Sunday as "our Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob." When he talks, people listen.
"I'm a Democrat," he told me when I called to make sure I had
understood him correctly and that he had instructed his congregation
not to vote for John Kerry. "I've been a Democrat all my life. But if
I had to vote this year, if I absolutely had to, I'd vote for George
Bush."
This is not a personal eccentricity of Spruill's. His denomination,
the Church of God in Christ, is unambiguously opposed to same-sex
marriage.
"We believe that to legalize such unions will signal ecclesiastical
and social approval of homosexuality and sexual deviancy as legitimate
lifestyles," the church's Worldwide General Assembly proclaimed.
The Church of God in Christ has millions of adherents. Traditionally,
it has been less political than other black denominations, but that's
changing.
"We're getting better at it," says Spruill. Which is not good news for
Democrats.
Everyone knows that most born-again white Christians will not be
voting for Kerry. They are not part of the Democratic strategy. But
black Pentecostals are a different matter. Without them, the party may
not get the massive black turnout it must have in swing states like
Illinois, Michigan and Florida.
Under the best of conditions, Kerry is not a figure who can inspire
African America to rush out and vote. He certainly can't induce black
Pentecostals to rebel against or ignore the moral urgings of their
church. It's not that these black religious conservatives will vote
for Bush. Many just won't vote.
The Democrats are committed to a social agenda that includes gay
political rights - rights the Church of God in Christ regard as an
abomination.
"America's just not that liberal," says Spruill. "Same-sex marriages
could cost the Democrats the election."
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Girlie Men Liberals Not Allowed:
http://www.georgewbush.com/Default.aspx
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15 Aug 2004 07:13:45 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:20:50 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Ah, another NeoCon loser who talks the talk but can't walk the walk.
I'll put $100 on the line. If Keyes breaks 40%, you get $100. If he
does not, I get $100 from you.
Ok, I'm game. Set up the deal. But I'll go you one better. You put up $100 and I'll put
up $500.
duke
*****
1 Corinthians 4
15Even though you have ten thousand guardians in
Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ
Jesus I became your father through the gospel.
*****
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15 Aug 2004 03:07:16 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 07:13:45 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:20:50 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Ah, another NeoCon loser who talks the talk but can't walk the walk.
I'll put $100 on the line. If Keyes breaks 40%, you get $100. If he
does not, I get $100 from you.
Ok, I'm game. Set up the deal. But I'll go you one better. You put up $100 and I'll put
up $500.
Let's do it.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -937 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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18 Aug 2004 12:57:18 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message news:<jhgvh0lhokjmegv6rq0mc5gu32sddvsapv@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 07:13:45 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:20:50 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Ah, another NeoCon loser who talks the talk but can't walk the walk.
I'll put $100 on the line. If Keyes breaks 40%, you get $100. If he
does not, I get $100 from you.
Ok, I'm game. Set up the deal. But I'll go you one better. You put up $100 and I'll put
up $500.
Let's do it.
You can set it up through Paypal if you don't trust each other.
Thank you both for making this election interesting.
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15 Aug 2004 06:45:40 PM |
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Liberal Bimbo Katie Couric: Saddam's Capture Only Symbolic.
Perky "Today" show host Katie Couric, who said at the height of the
Iraq war that she hoped Saddam Hussein had successfully fled to Syria,
argued Monday morning that the Iraqi dictator's capture really wasn't
that important after all.
Interviewing the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez,
Couric insisted, "It appears that Saddam Hussein was in no position to
be calling the shots or orchestrating the efforts against U.S. troops
in Iraq.
"So, militarily," she continued, "how much of the enemy's capabilities
have really been degraded by this capture?"
When Gen. Sanchez tried to explain the strategic importance of
removing Saddam from the battlefield, Couric chimed in, "Because this
is more symbolic, General Sanchez, do you think?"
While the top military man didn't deny that Saddam's capture had a
huge symbolic impact, he told Couric, "At the same time I believe it
will be a concrete victory on the battlefield as [the insurgents]
begin to reassess what their future holds."
Still, the early morning mega-star remained unconvinced that Saddam's
capture had accomplished much, pressing Sanchez on whether the arrest
"may actually incite various members of the insurgency" and "create an
environment in which there is more violence against U.S. troops."
As Couric was arguing that the Iraqi dictator's capture might actually
be bad news for soldiers on the ground, back in Baghdad, Brig. Gen.
Mark Hertling was explaining to reporters how documents in Saddam's
possession had already led to the capture of several other members of
the old regime's
command structure and provided key intelligence on the Baathist
insurgency that continues to target U.S. troops.
While speculating on Saddam's whereabouts in April, Couric asked NBC's
Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski if he could "confirm reports
[Saddam] was taken to Tikrit, and then Mosul, and then hopefully to
Syria." [our emphasis]
A "Today" show spokesman later said that Couric "misspoke" but had no
plans to publicly clarify her remark.
Carl Limbacher
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Left-wing liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being. They
are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,
selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.
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17 Aug 2004 05:10:17 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:07:16 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 07:13:45 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:20:50 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Ah, another NeoCon loser who talks the talk but can't walk the walk.
I'll put $100 on the line. If Keyes breaks 40%, you get $100. If he
does not, I get $100 from you.
Ok, I'm game. Set up the deal. But I'll go you one better. You put up $100 and I'll put
up $500.
Let's do it.
Set it up.
duke
*****
1 Corinthians 4
15Even though you have ten thousand guardians in
Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ
Jesus I became your father through the gospel.
*****
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15 Aug 2004 03:08:38 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<hokuh0tq42l9et7koncedpm2a3n912dita@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:20:50 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Ah, another NeoCon loser who talks the talk but can't walk the walk.
I'll put $100 on the line. If Keyes breaks 40%, you get $100. If he
does not, I get $100 from you.
Ok, I'm game. Set up the deal. But I'll go you one better. You put up $100 and I'll put
up $500.
Hell, put up a million. It's not like you won't welch anyway.
jwk
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18 Aug 2004 01:00:08 PM |
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(jwk) wrote in message news:<c6f5ba32.0408151208.6272f352@posting.google.com>...
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<hokuh0tq42l9et7koncedpm2a3n912dita@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:20:50 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Ah, another NeoCon loser who talks the talk but can't walk the walk.
I'll put $100 on the line. If Keyes breaks 40%, you get $100. If he
does not, I get $100 from you.
Ok, I'm game. Set up the deal. But I'll go you one better. You put up $100 and I'll put
up $500.
Hell, put up a million. It's not like you won't welch anyway.
Then you think Yang should jump on this offer right now - at least
he'd get bragging rights?
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13 Aug 2004 10:49:13 PM |
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Search for a John Kerry supporter pretending to be Bill Clinton!
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/thursday/policecourts/stories/po071504s1.shtml
Town police are looking for a John Kerry supporter, pretending to be
Bill Clinton, who sexually groped two women in a mall parking lot last
week. The incidents July 8 happened within minutes of each other in
the same area of the Poughkeepsie Galleria Mall, police said.
In the first incident, Lisa Hayes of the Town of Poughkeepsie was with
her children and about to get into her car about 12:30 p.m. when the
Kerry supporter approached her.
''I was putting the stroller in the trunk and was walking to get in
the car and all of a sudden, I felt a presence, like Bill Clinton,
behind me,'' she said.
Startled, Hayes said she pulled back as the Kerry supporter reached
for her hand while peeling off homemade John Kerry stickers he was
carrying.
''He was saying, 'Are you going to vote for Kerry?' '' Hayes said.
''He started sticking them on my breasts and feeling them.''
Hayes said she punched the Kerry supporter in his arm and he ran away
laughing like a crazed liberal. She hurriedly got in her car, drove
toward the mall security entrance and reported the Kerry supporter to
security.
The Kerry supporter apparently struck again in the meantime, town
police Capt. Michael Woods said.
In the second incident, a woman was walking into the mall near the
same entrance when the Kerry supporter approached her from behind and
grabbed her breasts, just like Bill Clinton would do!
When the woman turned around, the Kerry supporter laughed like a
crazed liberal and said he had mistaken her for someone he knew, Woods
said.
The suspect was described as a John Kerry supporter, about 20 to 25
years old, 5 feet, 5 inches tall, with a medium build and dark hair.
He was wearing baggy jeans and a white, untucked T-shirt, and had an
uncashed welfare check in his pocket . In one incident, the Kerry
supporter apparently was wearing thick glasses (JIHAD JYNNDI?). In the
other, he wore a baseball cap, according to the victims.
''We feel it's the same Kerry supporter,'' Woods said.
Rich Henebery, director of mall security, said his staff has been
working with police on the case.
Hayes and her husband, James Hayes, said they hope people are cautious
around John Kerry supporters.
''People should know there could be some liberals running around,''
James Hayes said.
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Liberals Hate America!
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14 Aug 2004 12:29:17 AM |
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torresB <torresB@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote in
news:3t2rh0dvic7opkv7n6ip36jkt8889f75s1@4ax.com:
Isn't it strange that the link doesn't work, and a search of the
Poughkeepsie Journal web site doesn't find the story.
A Bush supporter with his superior conservative morals wouldn't lie would
he?
Oh wait! They've been doing little else *but* lying for the last year and
more.
But you can prove me wrong.
Give a link that actually works, or search words in the journal that will
actually take me to the story. Either that, or be shown as the lying sack
of ***** you are.
I won't hold my breath.
Search for a John Kerry supporter pretending to be Bill Clinton!
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/thursday/policecourts/stories/po0715
04s1.shtml
Town police are looking for a John Kerry supporter, pretending to be
Bill Clinton, who sexually groped two women in a mall parking lot last
week. The incidents July 8 happened within minutes of each other in
the same area of the Poughkeepsie Galleria Mall, police said.
In the first incident, Lisa Hayes of the Town of Poughkeepsie was with
her children and about to get into her car about 12:30 p.m. when the
Kerry supporter approached her.
''I was putting the stroller in the trunk and was walking to get in
the car and all of a sudden, I felt a presence, like Bill Clinton,
behind me,'' she said.
Startled, Hayes said she pulled back as the Kerry supporter reached
for her hand while peeling off homemade John Kerry stickers he was
carrying.
''He was saying, 'Are you going to vote for Kerry?' '' Hayes said.
''He started sticking them on my breasts and feeling them.''
Hayes said she punched the Kerry supporter in his arm and he ran away
laughing like a crazed liberal. She hurriedly got in her car, drove
toward the mall security entrance and reported the Kerry supporter to
security.
The Kerry supporter apparently struck again in the meantime, town
police Capt. Michael Woods said.
In the second incident, a woman was walking into the mall near the
same entrance when the Kerry supporter approached her from behind and
grabbed her breasts, just like Bill Clinton would do!
When the woman turned around, the Kerry supporter laughed like a
crazed liberal and said he had mistaken her for someone he knew, Woods
said.
The suspect was described as a John Kerry supporter, about 20 to 25
years old, 5 feet, 5 inches tall, with a medium build and dark hair.
He was wearing baggy jeans and a white, untucked T-shirt, and had an
uncashed welfare check in his pocket . In one incident, the Kerry
supporter apparently was wearing thick glasses (JIHAD JYNNDI?). In the
other, he wore a baseball cap, according to the victims.
''We feel it's the same Kerry supporter,'' Woods said.
Rich Henebery, director of mall security, said his staff has been
working with police on the case.
Hayes and her husband, James Hayes, said they hope people are cautious
around John Kerry supporters.
''People should know there could be some liberals running around,''
James Hayes said.
--
Faux News: We distort, you decide.
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14 Aug 2004 12:44:16 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 05:29:17 +0000, Jim Lovejoy wrote:
Isn't it strange that the link doesn't work, and a search of the
Poughkeepsie Journal web site doesn't find the story.
A Bush supporter with his superior conservative morals wouldn't lie would
he?
Oh wait! They've been doing little else *but* lying for the last year and
more.
But you can prove me wrong.
Give a link that actually works, or search words in the journal that will
actually take me to the story. Either that, or be shown as the lying sack
of ***** you are.
I won't hold my breath.
I'll bet the other kids took you on lots of snipe hunts.
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16 Aug 2004 12:05:30 AM |
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james dorfu <dorf@edu.nospam.msu> wrote in
news:pan.2004.08.14.05.44.14.141140@edu.nospam.msu:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 05:29:17 +0000, Jim Lovejoy wrote:
Isn't it strange that the link doesn't work, and a search of the
Poughkeepsie Journal web site doesn't find the story.
A Bush supporter with his superior conservative morals wouldn't lie
would he?
Oh wait! They've been doing little else *but* lying for the last
year and more.
But you can prove me wrong.
Give a link that actually works, or search words in the journal that
will actually take me to the story. Either that, or be shown as the
lying sack of ***** you are.
I won't hold my breath.
I'll bet the other kids took you on lots of snipe hunts.
You mean because I keep looking for Bush supporters who are not lying sacks
of *****.
No. It just means I look for and collect the very rare.
--
Faux News: We distort, you decide.
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| Title: Re: Put-Down Line of the Day (Alan Keyes Gets Beat Up Again) |
18 Aug 2004 12:47:03 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<7taqh058k41dtuouv9bnq12l80acee1sar@4ax.com>...
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:00:43 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Alan Keyes, angry that Jim Ryan was scheduled to have 6 edbates with
Obama but he only gets 3, demands equal treatment.
Obama replied that the six debate offer was "a special for in-state
residents."
Obama is afraid to lose all six.
He will lose all three, but will still win the election.
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