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'Pyow hack!' Monkeys can talk to each other using sentences
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article485884.ece
Scientists have discovered Africa's wild putty-nosed monkeys can talk -
and they use syntax. They believe it is the first evidence of such
communication in non-humans. Steve Connor reports
Published: 18 May 2006
Making different sentences out of the same words was thought to be a
unique feature of human language but scientists have now discovered
syntax in monkeys.
A study of wild putty-nosed monkeys in Africa has found that they can
mix different alarm calls to communicate new meanings to fellow members
of a troop.
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18 May 2006 10:01:43 AM |
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"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1147948621.415025.185940@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
'Pyow hack!' Monkeys can talk to each other using sentences
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article485884.ece
Scientists have discovered Africa's wild putty-nosed monkeys can talk -
and they use syntax. They believe it is the first evidence of such
communication in non-humans. Steve Connor reports
Published: 18 May 2006
Making different sentences out of the same words was thought to be a
unique feature of human language but scientists have now discovered
syntax in monkeys.
A study of wild putty-nosed monkeys in Africa has found that they can
mix different alarm calls to communicate new meanings to fellow members
of a troop.
The more we learn, the more we find the differences between humans and the
other species on the planet is purely quantitative, not qualitative.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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18 May 2006 06:18:49 PM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1147948621.415025.185940@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
'Pyow hack!' Monkeys can talk to each other using sentences
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article485884.ece
Scientists have discovered Africa's wild putty-nosed monkeys can
talk - and they use syntax. They believe it is the first evidence of
such communication in non-humans. Steve Connor reports
Published: 18 May 2006
Making different sentences out of the same words was thought to be a
unique feature of human language but scientists have now discovered
syntax in monkeys.
A study of wild putty-nosed monkeys in Africa has found that they can
mix different alarm calls to communicate new meanings to fellow
members of a troop.
The more we learn, the more we find the differences between humans
and the other species on the planet is purely quantitative, not
qualitative.
Does this come under the "They're still monkeys" or "It's just an
instinct." rule?
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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18 May 2006 10:26:50 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Denis Loubet wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1147948621.415025.185940@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
'Pyow hack!' Monkeys can talk to each other using sentences
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article485884.ece
Scientists have discovered Africa's wild putty-nosed monkeys can
talk - and they use syntax. They believe it is the first evidence of
such communication in non-humans. Steve Connor reports
Published: 18 May 2006
Making different sentences out of the same words was thought to be a
unique feature of human language but scientists have now discovered
syntax in monkeys.
A study of wild putty-nosed monkeys in Africa has found that they
can mix different alarm calls to communicate new meanings to fellow
members of a troop.
The more we learn, the more we find the differences between humans
and the other species on the planet is purely quantitative, not
qualitative.
Does this come under the "They're still monkeys" or "It's just an
instinct." rule?
Insult to injury, now they can plan ahead.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060519/ap_on_sc/plan_ahead
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 May 2006 09:42:22 AM |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 03:26:50 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Mike Painter wrote:
Denis Loubet wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1147948621.415025.185940@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
'Pyow hack!' Monkeys can talk to each other using sentences
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article485884.ece
Scientists have discovered Africa's wild putty-nosed monkeys can
talk - and they use syntax. They believe it is the first evidence of
such communication in non-humans. Steve Connor reports
Published: 18 May 2006
Making different sentences out of the same words was thought to be a
unique feature of human language but scientists have now discovered
syntax in monkeys.
A study of wild putty-nosed monkeys in Africa has found that they
can mix different alarm calls to communicate new meanings to fellow
members of a troop.
The more we learn, the more we find the differences between humans
and the other species on the planet is purely quantitative, not
qualitative.
Does this come under the "They're still monkeys" or "It's just an
instinct." rule?
Insult to injury, now they can plan ahead.
They've made monkeys out of fundies.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060519/ap_on_sc/plan_ahead
Apes Shown to Be Able to Plan Ahead
By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP Science Writer Thu May 18, 9:33 PM ET
WASHINGTON - They don't bring along an umbrella or sunglasses that might
be needed later, but researchers say apes, like people, can plan ahead.
Both orangutans and bonobos were able to figure out which tool would
work in an effort to retrieve grapes, and were able to remember to bring
that tool along hours later, researchers report in Friday's issue of the
journal Science.
In a series of laboratory tests the apes were shown the tools and
grapes, allowed to retrieve grapes, and then removed from the area where
the treats were available.
They were allowed back from one to 14 hours later and most were able to
bring along the correct tool to get the treats, report Nicholas J.
Mulcahy and Josep Call of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary
Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany.
The researchers said the finding suggests that planning ahead arose at
least 14 million years ago, when the last common ancestor of bonobos,
orangutans and humans lived.
While the findings do not necessarily imply that the apes are able to
anticipate a future state of mind, they are nonetheless groundbreaking,
Thomas Suddendorf of the University of Queensland in Australia said in a
commentary.
"By identifying what capacities our closest living relatives share with
us, we can get a glimpse at our evolutionary past," Suddendorf said.
In a separate paper in ScienceExpress, the electronic version of
Science, researchers report that scrub jays look over their shoulders
when hiding food for future use and, if they think another bird saw
where they put it, will relocate their cache.
The report by Nicola S. Clayton and colleagues at the University of
Cambridge in England noted that relocating food was common when a bird
thought it had been observed by a more dominant bird, but not when a
partner was present.
The findings indicate that the birds act to avoid the possibility that a
non-partner will raid their stored food, and remember who was around
when they hid it, the researchers say.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "duke" |
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18 May 2006 05:59:22 PM |
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 10:01:43 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
A study of wild putty-nosed monkeys in Africa has found that they can
mix different alarm calls to communicate new meanings to fellow members
of a troop.
The more we learn, the more we find the differences between humans and the
other species on the planet is purely quantitative, not qualitative.
Speak for yourself, monkey boy.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 May 2006 09:38:20 AM |
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On 18 May 2006 03:37:01 -0700, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
'Pyow hack!' Monkeys can talk to each other using sentences
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article485884.ece
Scientists have discovered Africa's wild putty-nosed monkeys can talk -
and they use syntax. They believe it is the first evidence of such
communication in non-humans. Steve Connor reports
Published: 18 May 2006
Making different sentences out of the same words was thought to be a
unique feature of human language but scientists have now discovered
syntax in monkeys.
A study of wild putty-nosed monkeys in Africa has found that they can
mix different alarm calls to communicate new meanings to fellow members
of a troop.
Scientists found that the two basic sounds - ''pyows'' and ''hacks'' -
which are used to warn against different predators can be combined to
mean something quite different. The monkeys call out ''pyows'' to warn
against a loitering leopard and ''hacks'' are used to warn about
hovering eagles overhead. However, combining pyow and hack means
something like ''let's go'', according to scientists from the University
of St Andrew's.
''To our knowledge, this is the first good evidence of syntax-like
natural communication system in a non-human species,'' said Klaus
Zuberbühler, one of the researchers.
The putty-nosed monkeys in the study live in the Gashaka Gumti National
Park in Nigeria and were frequently heard using different sounds in
response to different threats. Kate Arnold, the other member of the
team, said that she became aware that the monkeys used several ''pyows''
followed by a few ''hacks'' as a way of telling a group to move away to
safer terrain.
''These calls were not produced randomly and a number of distinct
patterns emerged. One of these patterns was what we have termed a
''pyow-hack sequence'. This sequence was either produced alone or
inserted at certain positions in the call series,'' Dr Arnold said.
''Observationally and experimentally we have demonstrated that this call
sequence serves to elicit group movement in both predatory contexts and
during normal day-to-day activities such as finding food sources,'' she
said.
The scientists demonstrated in a study published in Nature that they
would imitate the communication syntax of the monkeys by playing
recorded calls to the wild troop living in the forest.
''The pyow-hack sequence means something like 'let's go' whereas the
pyows by themselves have multiple functions and the hacks are generally
used as alarm calls,'' Dr Arnold said.
''Previously, animal communication systems were considered to lack
examples in which call combinations carried meanings that were different
to the sum of the meanings of the constituent elements,'' she said.
''This is the first good example of calls being combined in meaningful
ways. The implications of this research are that primates, at least, may
be able to ignore the usual relationship between an individual call and
any meaning that it might convey under certain circumstances,'' Dr
Arnold added.
Sounding off: how animals communicate
* DOLPHINS
While it is not known whether dolphins have a formal language, they do
have a signature whistle to identify themselves. Though they lack vocal
chords, their sphincter muscles produce a complicated series of moans,
trills and clicks. When a dolphin sees an object in the distance,
particularly in murky water, it emits clicking sounds and listens to the
echo to identify distance and object size.
* BIRDS
Bird calls are used to express alarm, and to keep members of a flock in
contact, whereas songs which mainly come from male birds are used to
claim territory or advertise for a mate. Basic song is the same for all
members of a species, and it is believed that young birds learn the
details of songs from their fathers. As variations build up over
generations, they form a dialect. In a 2005 study in Science, it was
shown that the number of "dees" in a chick-a-dee call corresponds to the
degree of danger that a predator poses.
* WHALES
Whales communicate and navigate through sound. The best-known whale
communication is the song performed by male humpback whales during the
mating season. The song is believed to be part of sexual selection, but
whether the songs are "flirting" from male to female, competitive
behaviour between males or a means of marking territory is still the
subject of research.
* FROGS
Frogs have a complex system of calls, the most notable when they have
returned to the body of water where they were born. The male frog then
uses calls to attract a mate, either by themselves, or collectively as a
chorus. In some species of frog, including Polypedates leucomystax, the
female frog will reply to the call. If mounted by another male, the frog
emits a release call. Tropical species use a callto signal the start of
rain. The only call the frog makes with its mouth open is the
high-pitched distress call.
Geneviève Roberts
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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