Religions > Atheism > QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by the bears for mocking a bald guy
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"lizzard woman" |
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15 Feb 2005 10:51:24 AM |
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QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by the bears for mocking a bald guy |
This came up on another group.
2 Kg.2:23-24
Were 42 children or young men killed by the two bears? I thought it was
children but I am told "youths" refers to young men.
Thanks in advance,
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sharon, aa #2153
"(of creationism) ... Only apocryphal tales told by goat herders around the
campfire after it became too dark to continue to molest their charges." --
TvG (Rec.Equestrian, 2003)
"Easy -- he's the Right Reverend Admiral Jason Gastrich, BSc, MSc, DVM, ThD,
PhD, MD, JD, Esq, US Navy (Ret). If the bible happened to put things in the
wrong order, well, our boy the Doctor will just fix it right up there!" --
Rightshu (IIDB, 2004)
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by the bears for mocking a bald guy |
15 Feb 2005 09:23:24 PM |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:51:24 GMT, "lizzard woman"
<kimosabeRMOVE@shaw.ca> thought hard and said:
This came up on another group.
2 Kg.2:23-24
Were 42 children or young men killed by the two bears? I thought it was
children but I am told "youths" refers to young men.
Thanks in advance,
My Bible reads "there came forth little children out of the city."
King James version.
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-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by the bears for mocking a bald guy |
16 Feb 2005 10:03:05 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:23:24 -0600, after pondering
deep thoughts, Daniel Kolle <Daniel.Kolle@gmail.com>
spake thusly:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:51:24 GMT, "lizzard woman"
<kimosabeRMOVE@shaw.ca> thought hard and said:
This came up on another group.
2 Kg.2:23-24
Were 42 children or young men killed by the two bears? I thought it was
children but I am told "youths" refers to young men.
Thanks in advance,
My Bible reads "there came forth little children out of the city."
King James version.
That's one way to translate it, but not the only way.
In fact, the original Hebrew could mean "servants",
instead of "children". Also, young men is a reasonable
translation.
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Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
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http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by the bears for mocking a bald guy |
15 Feb 2005 12:13:19 PM |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:51:24 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "lizzard woman" <kimosabeRMOVE@shaw.ca> spake
thusly:
This came up on another group.
2 Kg.2:23-24
Were 42 children or young men killed by the two bears? I thought it was
children but I am told "youths" refers to young men.
Thanks in advance,
That is on more than one occasion true.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by the bears for mocking a bald guy |
15 Feb 2005 01:11:21 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:51:24 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "lizzard woman" <kimosabeRMOVE@shaw.ca> spake
thusly:
This came up on another group.
2 Kg.2:23-24
Were 42 children or young men killed by the two bears? I thought it
was
children but I am told "youths" refers to young men.
Thanks in advance,
That is on more than one occasion true.
I thought you had Sharon killfiled, Dave.
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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| Title: Re: QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by thebears for mocking a bald guy |
15 Feb 2005 12:32:26 PM |
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lizzard woman wrote:
This came up on another group.
2 Kg.2:23-24
Were 42 children or young men killed by the two bears? I thought it was
children but I am told "youths" refers to young men.
Thanks in advance,
Liz, this isn't what you requested, but since you brought up the subject, here
is a commentary on the passage:
[2 Kings 2:23-24] A careful study of this incident in context shows that it was
far more serious than a "mild personal offense." It was a situation of serious
public danger, quite as grave as the large youth gangs that roam… American
cities. If these young hoodlums were ranging about in packs of fifty or more,
derisive toward respectable adults and ready to mock even a well-known man of
God, there is no telling what violence they might have inflicted on the
citizenry of the religious center of the kingdom of Israel (as Bethel was), had
they been allowed to continue their riotous course. Perhaps it was for this
reason that God saw fit to put forty-two of them to death in this spectacular
fashion (there is no evidence that Elisha himself, in imposing a curse, prayed
for this specific mode of punishment), in order to strike terror into other
youth gangs that were infesting the city and to make them realize that neither
Yahweh Himself nor any of His anointed prophets were to be threatened or treated
with contempt.
Certainly from that time on, the whole Israelite community became convinced that
Elisha was a true prophet and that he bore an authoritative word from God.
Gleason Archer, Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan
Publishing House, 1982), p. 205
--
sharon, aa #2153
"(of creationism) ... Only apocryphal tales told by goat herders around the
campfire after it became too dark to continue to molest their charges." --
TvG (Rec.Equestrian, 2003)
"Easy -- he's the Right Reverend Admiral Jason Gastrich, BSc, MSc, DVM, ThD,
PhD, MD, JD, Esq, US Navy (Ret). If the bible happened to put things in the
wrong order, well, our boy the Doctor will just fix it right up there!" --
Rightshu (IIDB, 2004)
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by the bears for mocking a bald guy |
15 Feb 2005 01:50:15 PM |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:32:26 -0500, after pondering
deep thoughts, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> spake
thusly:
lizzard woman wrote:
This came up on another group.
2 Kg.2:23-24
Were 42 children or young men killed by the two bears? I thought it was
children but I am told "youths" refers to young men.
Thanks in advance,
Liz, this isn't what you requested, but since you brought up the subject, here
is a commentary on the passage:
[2 Kings 2:23-24] A careful study of this incident in context shows that it was
far more serious than a "mild personal offense." It was a situation of serious
public danger, quite as grave as the large youth gangs that roam… American
cities. If these young hoodlums were ranging about in packs of fifty or more,
derisive toward respectable adults and ready to mock even a well-known man of
God, there is no telling what violence they might have inflicted on the
citizenry of the religious center of the kingdom of Israel (as Bethel was), had
they been allowed to continue their riotous course. Perhaps it was for this
reason that God saw fit to put forty-two of them to death in this spectacular
fashion (there is no evidence that Elisha himself, in imposing a curse, prayed
for this specific mode of punishment), in order to strike terror into other
youth gangs that were infesting the city and to make them realize that neither
Yahweh Himself nor any of His anointed prophets were to be threatened or treated
with contempt.
Certainly from that time on, the whole Israelite community became convinced that
Elisha was a true prophet and that he bore an authoritative word from God.
Gleason Archer, Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan
Publishing House, 1982), p. 205
That's what I said. :)
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by the bears for mocking a bald guy |
15 Feb 2005 05:11:58 PM |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:50:15 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> said in alt.atheism:
Certainly from that time on, the whole Israelite community became convinced that
Elisha was a true prophet and that he bore an authoritative word from God.
Gleason Archer, Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan
Publishing House, 1982), p. 205
That's what I said. :)
So you're as dishonest as Archer. What a surprise.
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rukbat at verizon dot net
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
- Isaac Asimov
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by the bears for mocking a bald guy |
17 Feb 2005 04:17:21 PM |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:11:58 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:50:15 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> said in alt.atheism:
Certainly from that time on, the whole Israelite community became convinced that
Elisha was a true prophet and that he bore an authoritative word from God.
Gleason Archer, Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan
Publishing House, 1982), p. 205
That's what I said. :)
So you're as dishonest as Archer. What a surprise.
Honesty isn't part of Pissor Dave's makeup, neither is education or
gonads.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by the bears for mocking a bald guy |
15 Feb 2005 01:08:00 PM |
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on 15 Feb 2005 in alt.atheism, dgillesp dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
[2 Kings 2:23-24] A careful study of this incident in context shows
that it was far more serious than a "mild personal offense." It was a
situation of serious public danger, quite as grave as the large youth
gangs that roam… American cities. If these young hoodlums were ranging
about in packs of fifty or more, derisive toward respectable adults
and ready to mock even a well-known man of God, there is no telling
what violence they might have inflicted on the citizenry of the
religious center of the kingdom of Israel (as Bethel was), had they
been allowed to continue their riotous course. Perhaps it was for this
reason that God saw fit to put forty-two of them to death in this
spectacular fashion (there is no evidence that Elisha himself, in
imposing a curse, prayed for this specific mode of punishment), in
order to strike terror into other youth gangs that were infesting the
city and to make them realize that neither Yahweh Himself nor any of
His anointed prophets were to be threatened or treated with contempt.
Packs of small children roaming the streets of Bethel. That almost sounds
dangerous enough for a small flood, don't ya think?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are the kind of
people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: QUestion abou whether 42 children or "young men" were killed by the bears for mocking a bald guy |
15 Feb 2005 10:57:15 AM |
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on 15 Feb 2005 in alt.atheism, lizzard woman dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
This came up on another group.
2 Kg.2:23-24
Were 42 children or young men killed by the two bears? I thought it was
children but I am told "youths" refers to young men.
Thanks in advance,
From the King James Bible:
23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the
way, there came forth *little children* out of the city, and mocked him,
and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of
the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare
forty and two children of them.
Youths and Young Men would be more apt to use the term "muthafucka".
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are the kind of
people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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